Minuet's Trio [Game Over]

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Evening commoners

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Please be town this time.

if you believe it to be true, nothing is impossible. don't let my actual alignment get in the way of things

btw, i'm a novice reflexive fruit vendor

Oh you actually rolled scum didn't you

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Hey grapes, I have a proposal, once you decide to start the voting, can the first vote you place be on yourself, followed up by you switching to your real vote?

Uhm.

Why?

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Sure thing but i wanna hear dunn's angle first

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Sure thing but i wanna hear dunn's angle first

Theorizing that your vote may have additional powers on your first vote if you're scum (while your role is strong enough stand-alone if town) so by self voting first vote you remove that bit of doubt

This isn't a varsoon game brah but okie dokie

VOTE: grapes





Let the festivities begin!!

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read the posts again
and oddly don't have an extra special confident scumread to death tunnel forevermore : (
be easy on me though been a minute

im gonna help here
VOTE: kaeda

and then try again tomorrow after some ZzZs i suppose

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VOTE: Hebichann

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That was one of those votes you make where you feel less good about it after you make it.

Grapes I think is playing a lot like I remember town grapes

But I'm a little more than skeptical of this line
Plus other little gutty things

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grapes, i got that toast if you catch my drift. this message is also for mastina

i don't and i was gonna make a joke about jelly but stopped myself

Btw are you who i think you are?

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I suspect her

I don't think she's a D3 IC at all, and she's going to come up with why it was a good gambit when the time comes, or say she can be somehow roleblocked, or something

I'm gonna guess she's on a team with a vanillarizor or something and planned to explain it away that way or something

Sounds more fakegody

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it's so much easier to townread muffin now

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VOTE: MastinaWhy the hell would you even claim it day one.

Why don't you ask her?
And when did you get so confident about this?

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hi guys

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Me either!

What did I miss?

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i know
i checked your account

i dunno where to vote zzz
every wagon has people i both do and dont like on it

Vote hebi, we'll sort grapes later

wis/hebi or am i bad?

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Moment did you confirm if you're an alt or not?

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@Moment

did you intentionally ignore #829?

Your iso is making me sleepy and also feels like a waste of time without this knowledge

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Who was calling nancy obvtown off meta then?

Not gonna lie moment I don't think I really know how to read your lot.
Calculators.

I mean like I was also not very impressed with nancy's first couple posts or whatever too.

But it's also kinda scummy that you're still kinda stuck on her after she posted okay content (going from memory off my skimming) and haven't evolved your world much? I mean gingie and nos are scumreads you picked up along the way but those are both kinda safe and 'hey look im original'

guess ill take a closer look at nancy but like i said kinda think she's town from my skim?

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I kinda see where you're coming from on nancy, muffin

Half way through she hasn't asked a single good question.

And the flailing is a bit more deliberate than memory served.

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her thought process is very transparently genuine in a hard to fake way do u see? yes no maybe so

See to me what's the most real from nancy is probably the annoyance/frustration from the heat she got
But that isn't something you have to fake unless you have to

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Hey ankamius are you gonna coast like this the rest of the game or should we just lynch you

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VOTE: nancy
tbh

pedit: the fuck are those reads dude

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What makes you call Ginngie and Nosferatu both "safe" scumreads? I seem to be in the minority when it comes to them. Would you mind elaborating a bit more?

What I meant was that you weren't gonna catch any flack for scumreads on those slots considering what they've done/their presence at that point.

nos probably doesn't happen by deadline and is kinda boring tbh, not that you could tell

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I'd lynch wisdom too i guess.

My dilemma is currently that I thought we were trying ot get a lynch so i rushed getting caught up and just iso'd top wagons and things and I have work tomorrow and im sleepy

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how are people legitimately, genuinely scumreading Nancy

I don't know if I could do this justice at this very moment

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. . . Nancy might be town

VOTE: Android

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lol at the android counterwagon

stay on moment guys. I trust you to lynch kaede later. I dont trust you to lynch moment later.

do me a favor a refresh on androids iso


everyone else too please

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what's town about android?

gonna iso kaeda now lord give me strength

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I think something like this, atm.

Towny:

andriod18
Nancy Drew 39
Dunnstral
Kokichi Oma

Maybe Town:

Ankamius
mastina
grapes
Purrcocet
Moment

muffin:

zMuffinMan
Brian Skies

Maybe Scum:

Nosferatu
Katsuki

Leftovers:

Wisdom
Ginngie
Human Sequencer

you know what i just noticed is that kaeda and android are pretty gungho on each other for town but don't really recollect much "sorting" going on between them at all

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who are you voting rn kochi?

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okay was gonna make a bigger post on this but it's day 1 and im trying too hard i think -- bottom line android and kaede interactions don't like

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wisdom leaning more town now - his posting spurts don't have the same effect in retrospect

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Wait fellas

does this make sense

I can see one goon but it's clear main characters are pr roles and this mech is to help scum it's a balance yes it can land on scum but still overall it helps them. Set up spec is not the best on day 1 though.

into this

Wait this isn't rolemad?

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I guess my point is how can you "see the scumteam having one goon" and also think the setup is rolemadness.


Both of those posts are pretty bad in isolation but held side by side seem like 2 different peeps' setupspecing

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i wanna say just nancy's claim if we're tlaking about things that would change your read on the setup but im not sure

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yea nos can be scum

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VOTE: Kaeda
Normally I'm against lynching cop claims day 1 but..
This is scum guys.

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Goon can be in role madness no?

No I'm pretty sure role madness means everyone is a powerrole...

VOTE: grapes

Looks like scum to me, especially after posts like 1086 being designed to throw s hade when they're supposed to not have a clue what's going on

Just to clarify I'm scumreading Android but found something potentially interesting in their iso after looking at kaeda interactions that I wanted some thoughts on because to me it seemed pretty damning.

Like dunn riddle me this when you're town what are your tools for gaming the setup to start the game usually? Your own role.

So like when there's iffiness with what androids thoughts on the setup are when the only glaringly obvious thing that could change that was nancy's claim which was what the second post I quoted was in response to anyway... it begs the question why android thinks the setup warrants a goon (less power) and then later thinks everyone is power (lots of power)

and if by "supposed to have no clue what's going on" you mean that I'm taking the lazy approach and iso-ing first the people who're being talked about/up for lynch then sure

it's not always "he's fully caught up and aware of everything that's going on" vs "grapes is blind and deaf" there's gonna be some inbetween mostly because i don't have a lot of time to sit down and mafia much lately but im trying to fit it in

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VOTE: grapes

Okay apparently being subtle isn't gonna work

I'm a vanilla cop

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I didn't wanna have to do that but I'm aware of the shit wagon on me and deadline coming up and all that.

The thought occured to me kaeda and I could both be town but... meh? Probably not a thing.

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wtf fakegod

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now that you mention it kaeda it's sorta interesting that my 'starting the votes' thing wasn't mentioned in my role pm

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VOTE: wisdom

We all invest mastina or kat

Find out if truth or lie

There can’t be a triple role block lol

By the way gonna go with no on this I think.

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I dont care about the double claim

Unless scum somehow know there's a vanilla cop and kaede wanted to draw the cc, i don't see it as something she likely fakeclaims

So you think the setup has two vanilla cops or...?


Like last I checked you thought I was scum but your post assumes I'm town pretty hard



pedit: you mean androids kneejerk "hey look town actually isn't all powerroles rofl" that i pointed out earlier

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ok so

In queen of hearts town had a bunch of compulsive body guards
Nightengale we had a bunch of double voters

Maybe this game the "weak-ish role that town gets more than one of" is vanilla cop because
1) wis is kinda right that it aint too strong especially depending on setup and sakura fakeclaiming vanilla cop as scum is only really likely if she's actually a role cop i think (btw i think the "scum version" of the vanilla cops in this case would probably be akin to rolecop if that's in fact what's going on here)
2) I'm not sure fakegod would give scum the fakeclaim of vanilla cop to just have me CC and get a wicked easy scum lynch (thing is here, maybe he would, in queen of hearts the mafia bodyguard wasn't compulsive and in nightengale scum didn't have a double-voter, though)
3) ginngie and nos are both sorta reacting how scum would in a CC situation between 2 town



At any rate after pondering it's kinda cool that if kaeda and I are both town we both are kinda bad night kills and they can't block both of us so yippee i guess

Let's vote in android nos ginngie for today

VOTE: nos

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VOTE: Ginngie

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VOTE: Moment

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She vanilla copped her cc. Hahahaha

It was a bad check but I kinda buy the thought process.
Also don't think kaeda and ginngie are scum together.

VOTE: Ginngie

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Katsuki it's obvious you and wisdom just need to kiss and make up


android is the prime vig shot here

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I dunno. It feels like scum waiting to see which direction the wind blows in before committing on pushing/joining android?

Right but android was probably catching votes today

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Andriod seems like a poor shot based on vca,

I kinda wanna hear this one

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Somehow a 9 person wagon on town formed to counter a 4 person wagon on scum, while 2 scum saat around doing nothing?

Chalk that up to wisdom + deadline


I don't think scum are driving the game rn if that's what you're saying

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Okay, sure. Maybe it's a four-scum game.

Considering there's 15 players I'm like 70% sure there's 4 scum

Nah it's an FG thing, i admit not having closely checked ammount of scum in previous Alice games and I probably should, but muffin seemed pretty sure there'd be 3 scum.

the thing about this is people don't like being predicted and it's only a matter of time till he runs 4


my reads are making me think 3 though could be wrong

But no, Nos scum claimed and there's another scum on the wagon in heavily scum reading

What's nos' scum motivation to play out this day the way he has been though? : p


Why's ginngie town?

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who did you cop?

Nos isn't vanilla!


I was gonna keep that to my chest and try to run him up but that's busted now + kinda don't really think he's scum atm




on a similar note brian is either town or scum who's been reading my mind all game

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btw I'm pretty good for day 2 outside of hearing something from the lurkfucks on all this

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Like idek what you'd have wanted me to do with my role, go and out an unclaimed PR so scum can shoot them?
Find an unclaimed VT to narrow down scum's shoot pool?

Play it however you want but my thought process was to check an sr laying low; like is nos came back vanilla i'd be looking sideways at his body of work so far


you also shouldn't out straight away if you can help it probably

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also think ginngie's check on mastina is arguably worse, kochi

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yea super serious

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oh shit guys

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Thanks for mod fg

GG everybody and well played town : )

know I didn't get a chance to be around that much but I still managed to thoroughly enjoy this game; almost made me think about starting to actually play again