Open 730: Donner Party [Terminado]

[Eragon]

Towncore
—Eragon
—AP
—Ejjinami

Town Lean
-LuckyOtter
-Sando
-ManateeDude
-UnRealSeal

Null
-okadoka
-Not_Mafia

Neutral null(less not-read and more I could go either way so convince me)

-Ceejay

why do u only have town reads and null reads and no scum reads

because they were based of MM's spew

[OkaPoka]

Towncore
—Eragon
—AP
—Ejjinami

Town Lean
-LuckyOtter
-Sando
-ManateeDude
-UnRealSeal

Null
-okadoka
-Not_Mafia

Neutral null(less not-read and more I could go either way so convince me)

-Ceejay

why do u only have town reads and null reads and no scum reads

because they were based of MM's spew

whats ur prior experience with mafia if any

[Eragon]

about 8 games on ToS forums and 2-3 on Mafia universe.

[OkaPoka]

are u not worried that you have so many townreads and so little scumreads

[AP]

@Eragon: No joke there, mate. It's more accurate to call the Dietician a Gunsmith than a Vop (the wiki page does). The RB though was a mistake on my part. I forgot we also have a Roleblocker.

Also, what makes you think MM spewed me town? I mean, it could've been a distancing move. Or I could be the SK. I have yet to read the rest of your reads, but I found me at the top so I commented on that first.

P-edit: That's

not

the way to get N_M talking. If you want him to talk you need to ask him nicely.

[ManateeDude]

Town core
- Manatee
- Eragon

Town lean
- ceejay
- UnrealSeal
- LuckyOtter
- OkaPoka

Null
- ejjinami

Scum
- Sando

Scum is either ejj or someone in Townlean imo, I'll explain any reads you ask for an explanation for

[Eragon]

(as I said in my note, when I said spewed town I meant spewed non-mafia, but I'm too lazy to write the extra letters)

[ManateeDude]

Town core
- Manatee
- Eragon

Town lean
- ceejay
- UnrealSeal
- LuckyOtter
- OkaPoka

Null
- ejjinami
- AP

Scum
- Sando

Scum is either ejj or someone in Townlean imo, I'll explain any reads you ask for an explanation for

Edited

[OkaPoka]

yeah could u explain how ur getting town cores 10 pages in

[Eragon]

@manatee why am I already towncore?

and why is ejji likely scum?

[Eragon]

are u not worried that you have so many townreads and so little scumreads

nope, we have time for this to settle out, I am fairly confident in mafia being in my null brackets or possible in my town lean

[ManateeDude]

@manatee why am I already towncore?

and why is ejji likely scum?

1) meta
2) its null because I can never freaking read ejj. But if anything she's SK.

[Eragon]

2)lol

[OkaPoka]

wait ur towncoring eragon cuz meta?
what meta do u have prior experience with him what

[Eragon]

Hypoclaiming is to allow you to give results as a PR without giving away your PR status

Except if you clear any of the 3 anti-town players you are telling one or two of them you're not the Cop.

But there's this little thing I want to note right now: There is NO COP! It's a GUNSMITH. This means our investigative can return up to 4 guilties, but one of them is fake (the Vig will return a positive result as well as the Mafia/SK).

I also saw someone mentioning a Roleblocker, and I really hope that was a typo. Otherwise I'd assume someone's playing the game without knowing the setup or mechanics, which would really suck.

Wow. ++++++scumpoints for trying to confuse people, seriously... like, it's not funny enough to be a shitpost, and it's false. VOTE: ap

@AP I don't see MM using this tone for distancing against a buddy.
I could be wrong, but I highly, highly doubt it

[Eragon]

wait ur towncoring eragon cuz meta?
what meta do u have prior experience with him what

most of my games on ToS

[OkaPoka]

@manateedude what does eragon scumgame look like

[ManateeDude]

wait ur towncoring eragon cuz meta?
what meta do u have prior experience with him what

I play with him consistently on the ToS forums.

[Sando]

VOTE: not_mafia

why are u doing naked votes and doing nothing of substance

I'm told it's his meta and NAI.

ive played with him a couple years back and although he was trolly he was a lot more substantive

I've seen a lot of people claim this about N_M and I'm yet to see the whole "he's good as town" ever materialise. I've only seen him troll as either alignment and it's just the amount of form of trolling that is NAI. Early votes on MM is town-indicative of him, and believe it or not I'd say the amount of discussion from him D1 was fairly townie too.

I think those that have played with him a decent amount will be fairly confident of reading him, it's a bit of a "ohhh, that's how it works" kind of realisation and you feel confident about it after that. This is also telling me the vig has probably played with N_M a few times since N_M is basically universally seen as vig-bait from what I've seen, so the vig either got blocked, N_M is SK (neither of these are likely) or the vig is confident of N_M read.

CJ flat out isn't Mafia and I very much doubt is SK. He doesn't proactively make cases like he did on MM yesterday, he doesn't answer back like he did with me yesterday. By far the scummiest thing he did was the late vote with no rationalisation on MM, and if MM had flipped town I'd have run at him hard, but he flipped red and CJ doesn't bus at all that I've seen, and that was not what a bus looks like. It could be SK but I don't think so, mostly because I think Ejj is.

I still think from early interactions with MM that Ejj doesn't seem genuine, especially compared to his later case on MM, I think he's SK.

VOTE: Ejj

[Eragon]

my scum game looks like shit, let me tell you that much

last time I was scum I was lynched D1

[ManateeDude]

@manateedude what does eragon scumgame look like

Never has this much confidence, much more timid, takes easier read choices.

[ManateeDude]

my scum game looks like shit, let me tell you that much

last time I was scum I was lynched D1

Ew self meta

[Eragon]

thats not meta.

thats fact

[Eragon]

I can show you my most recent town game and scum game

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Sando