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That's basically why the type of playstyle matters so much.
If it's more a raw analysis type of style where every post is generally thought through before posting, then it's not indicative and much more likely a playstyle clash; it's plausible but it's still not to the level of like... MagnaOfIllusion or others with styles similar to his. I can't read that kind of thing since I don't think in that way.
But, if it's like Gorkington where it's more stream of consciousness and talking without a whole lot of forethought and planning first, then I'm probably reading genuine scum intent since it's easy to fake the thoughts but very very hard to fake a coherent thought process and tone with that playstyle.- Gamma Emerald
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yaddayadda all I'm seeing is pjm trying to give reasons to scumread meIn post 2884, projectmatt wrote:
this reads aIn post 2797, Gamma Emerald wrote:
If he somehow does sure I'll apologizeIn post 2723, RadiantCowbells wrote:by the way
literally everyone in this game not voting mathblade right now owes me an apology when mathblade flips scum or don't talk to me ever again.
but if not you have to apologize to the game for making it toxic
deal?lotlike scum posturing to me.
this also rubs me the wrong way.In post 2799, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I promise: if you get nightkilled by scum I'll be considering what you're saying no matter what you flip.In post 2767, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Let's wait for radiant to be nightkilled then say that he must have been redirected so math is conftown!In post 2785, Theta Alpine wrote:let me put it this way
the actions that occur the following night will help clarify what is going on with math and radiant
so we should focus off of that for today until we have more information
ehhhhIn post 2875, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Maybe not but regardless you trying to go against it feels kinda shady.In post 2856, Vecna wrote:
so in your opinion the hood is completely safe and his approach is the right one?In post 2850, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Why? Doesn't that indicate who is in there, which Mathblade has explicitly said he doesn't want revealed right now?In post 2847, Vecna wrote:gamma emerald, id like your detailed evaluation about the people in the hood. as in, was there scum in the initial 3? was the extra invite an objectively good choice?
gamma's iso is full of him casting vague suspicion on people and calling out posts for not being good without actually committing to reads. his scumhunting/questioning of people doesn't feel like it has any internal consistency.
i wasn't a huge fan of aronis's iso either. his only real confident read was a townread on hebichan, and it looked like he was pocketing/coasting off of the confidence of his townread at certain points. like this post:
because of all of this, gamma/aronis leans scum.In post 1841, Aronis wrote:I would like to kill somebody on the vecna wagon not named hebichan today<Embrace The Void>
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Yeah, after he puts out a mini-case on me he just goes "eh theta best lynch"In post 2897, MathBlade wrote:
Projectmatt is definitely better but I could do Theta.In post 2885, projectmatt wrote:i dont really read keychain as scum based on my quick iso on them. i'm at least willing to wait for them to be replaced before i would consider lynching them. lynching an inactive slot is usually a bad move.
in fact, i dont particularly read muffin as scum either.
starting to think that the theta wagon is still the best option.
Like his swap onto Theta feels really survivalistic
I am really sick so consider this my “content” for now.
no thanks VOTE: projectmatt<Embrace The Void>
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this is fair but I still want explanation before I unvoteIn post 2900, projectmatt wrote:i was the first person on the theta wagon and unvoted for about 30 minutes to think about my own reads, and then promptly revoted.
if i hadn't unvoted theta out of my own volition, you wouldn't have called it a swap.
this means that you're either intentionally misrepresenting the situation or you're not reading the game closely, and i find the second one hard to believe.<Embrace The Void>
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literally the opposite for meIn post 2925, Ankamius wrote:That's basically why the type of playstyle matters so much.
If it's more a raw analysis type of style where every post is generally thought through before posting, then it's not indicative and much more likely a playstyle clash; it's plausible but it's still not to the level of like... MagnaOfIllusion or others with styles similar to his. I can't read that kind of thing since I don't think in that way.
But, if it's like Gorkington where it's more stream of consciousness and talking without a whole lot of forethought and planning first, then I'm probably reading genuine scum intent since it's easy to fake the thoughts but very very hard to fake a coherent thought process and tone with that playstyle.-
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jesus christ what aIn post 2926, Gamma Emerald wrote:
yaddayadda all I'm seeing is pjm trying to give reasons to scumread meIn post 2884, projectmatt wrote:
this reads aIn post 2797, Gamma Emerald wrote:
If he somehow does sure I'll apologizeIn post 2723, RadiantCowbells wrote:by the way
literally everyone in this game not voting mathblade right now owes me an apology when mathblade flips scum or don't talk to me ever again.
but if not you have to apologize to the game for making it toxic
deal?lotlike scum posturing to me.
this also rubs me the wrong way.In post 2799, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I promise: if you get nightkilled by scum I'll be considering what you're saying no matter what you flip.In post 2767, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Let's wait for radiant to be nightkilled then say that he must have been redirected so math is conftown!In post 2785, Theta Alpine wrote:let me put it this way
the actions that occur the following night will help clarify what is going on with math and radiant
so we should focus off of that for today until we have more information
ehhhhIn post 2875, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Maybe not but regardless you trying to go against it feels kinda shady.In post 2856, Vecna wrote:
so in your opinion the hood is completely safe and his approach is the right one?In post 2850, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Why? Doesn't that indicate who is in there, which Mathblade has explicitly said he doesn't want revealed right now?In post 2847, Vecna wrote:gamma emerald, id like your detailed evaluation about the people in the hood. as in, was there scum in the initial 3? was the extra invite an objectively good choice?
gamma's iso is full of him casting vague suspicion on people and calling out posts for not being good without actually committing to reads. his scumhunting/questioning of people doesn't feel like it has any internal consistency.
i wasn't a huge fan of aronis's iso either. his only real confident read was a townread on hebichan, and it looked like he was pocketing/coasting off of the confidence of his townread at certain points. like this post:
because of all of this, gamma/aronis leans scum.In post 1841, Aronis wrote:I would like to kill somebody on the vecna wagon not named hebichan todayterriblepost- Nosferatu
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I'm typically better at reading people who post analytically with walls and points and shitIn post 2933, Ankamius wrote:in what sense
but I just tend to townread anyone who has a stream-of-consciousness posting style- MathBlade
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For starters here.In post 2506, projectmatt wrote:imo, we should do the following today:
1. make mathblade out his hood partners
2. lynch mathblade
3. if mathblade flips town, the hood will use their ability to kill radiantcowbells. since killing requires all members of the hood to agree, refusing to kill will be tantamount to a scum-claim.
4. if mathblade flips scum, the kill is unnecessary.
How did you know it requires universal agreement?
Your posts seem too confident when no one is really talking.
Furthermore your Theta push came after I suggested it.
It’s like you want to push Theta to get on my good side. The “switch” (Unvote/vote) is to make it seem like you’re reading and hunting. When in reality your only interest is getting on my good side.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Welcome to hilarious then.In post 2935, Nosferatu wrote:the fact that people actually give matt shit for literally unvoting and then re-voting the same player is hilarious
I have done that shit as scum. So I look out for it.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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for one, you told us that it requires universal agreement among the hoodIn post 2937, MathBlade wrote:
For starters here.In post 2506, projectmatt wrote:imo, we should do the following today:
1. make mathblade out his hood partners
2. lynch mathblade
3. if mathblade flips town, the hood will use their ability to kill radiantcowbells. since killing requires all members of the hood to agree, refusing to kill will be tantamount to a scum-claim.
4. if mathblade flips scum, the kill is unnecessary.
How did you know it requires universal agreement?
Your posts seem too confident when no one is really talking.
Furthermore your Theta push came after I suggested it.
It’s like you want to push Theta to get on my good side. The “switch” (Unvote/vote) is to make it seem like you’re reading and hunting. When in reality your only interest is getting on my good side.
for second, my posts seem too confident? how? elaborate.
for third, that's an insanely egotistical reason. i outlined my thought process as to why i thought theta was mafia when i voted them, and it's absurd for you to think that i give a shit about being on your good side.- projectmatt
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this is an insane theory, especially since i outlined where my thought process was when i unvoted then voted again. you're insane.In post 2937, MathBlade wrote: It’s like you want to push Theta to get on my good side. The “switch” (Unvote/vote) is to make it seem like you’re reading and hunting. When in reality your only interest is getting on my good side.- projectmatt
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please tell me why you intentionally as scum unvote and then re-vote literally one post after the otherIn post 2938, MathBlade wrote:
Welcome to hilarious then.In post 2935, Nosferatu wrote:the fact that people actually give matt shit for literally unvoting and then re-voting the same player is hilarious
I have done that shit as scum. So I look out for it.- MathBlade
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1) Oops. Damn thought I didn’t. Crap.In post 2939, projectmatt wrote:
for one, you told us that it requires universal agreement among the hoodIn post 2937, MathBlade wrote:
For starters here.In post 2506, projectmatt wrote:imo, we should do the following today:
1. make mathblade out his hood partners
2. lynch mathblade
3. if mathblade flips town, the hood will use their ability to kill radiantcowbells. since killing requires all members of the hood to agree, refusing to kill will be tantamount to a scum-claim.
4. if mathblade flips scum, the kill is unnecessary.
How did you know it requires universal agreement?
Your posts seem too confident when no one is really talking.
Furthermore your Theta push came after I suggested it.
It’s like you want to push Theta to get on my good side. The “switch” (Unvote/vote) is to make it seem like you’re reading and hunting. When in reality your only interest is getting on my good side.
for second, my posts seem too confident? how? elaborate.
for third, that's an insanely egotistical reason. i outlined my thought process as to why i thought theta was mafia when i voted them, and it's absurd for you to think that i give a shit about being on your good side.
2) Will do when not at work
3) it’s actually rather embarrassing, not egotistical. I am always loud. A loud me is better for scum than scum. So manipulating me is something I have to look out for.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because it “looks active”. It makes it seem like I was doing things when I liked the game state.In post 2942, Nosferatu wrote:
please tell me why you intentionally as scum unvote and then re-vote literally one post after the otherIn post 2938, MathBlade wrote:
Welcome to hilarious then.In post 2935, Nosferatu wrote:the fact that people actually give matt shit for literally unvoting and then re-voting the same player is hilarious
I have done that shit as scum. So I look out for it.
It introduces the suggestion that I was thinking or waffling when not.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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this would maybe make sense if i didnt post multiple times inbetween my unvote and my re-vote outlining what my reads on people were and why i thought theta was still the best option.In post 2944, MathBlade wrote:
Because it “looks active”. It makes it seem like I was doing things when I liked the game state.In post 2942, Nosferatu wrote:
please tell me why you intentionally as scum unvote and then re-vote literally one post after the otherIn post 2938, MathBlade wrote:
Welcome to hilarious then.In post 2935, Nosferatu wrote:the fact that people actually give matt shit for literally unvoting and then re-voting the same player is hilarious
I have done that shit as scum. So I look out for it.
It introduces the suggestion that I was thinking or waffling when not.- projectmatt
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If @2945 And I have cased people too as scum. I get called “honest” and “no way Math is scum” after I do. That is not relevant to the point.
@2946 Again it’s not “ego” it is me admitting my flaws and noting my concern. It’s exactly what Mastina did in Civ Mafia. I am trying to be better.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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it's super relevant. you're saying that i unvoted theta and then revoted them to make it look like i was thinking without actually having to do it, right? that logic falls completely flat since i outlined my thought process and my logic. clearly, thought was put into what i was saying. the argument just doesn't. work.In post 2947, MathBlade wrote:If @2945 And I have cased people too as scum. I get called “honest” and “no way Math is scum” after I do. That is not relevant to the point.
let's put aside the ego thing. my problem is simply that your logic is bad. i don't know/care how paranoid you are about being manipulated, but if youre town in this circumstance, your paranoia about being manipulated has made you out some questionable and super poorly thought-out logic.In post 2947, MathBlade wrote: @2946 Again it’s not “ego” it is me admitting my flaws and noting my concern. It’s exactly what Mastina did in Civ Mafia. I am trying to be better.- Nosferatu
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that's not what you argued thoughIn post 2944, MathBlade wrote:Because it “looks active”. It makes it seem like I was doing things when I liked the game state.
It introduces the suggestion that I was thinking or waffling when not.
you argued that he was jumping onto the theta wagon
but he was already there - Nosferatu
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