Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[Nosferatu]

if i had to pick someone in the wagon to die, it'd be gamma

[Vecna]

I also still think theres a solid case to be made for a Theta/Gamma/Titus scumteam. I mean, it'd probably be wrong, but I could make a pretty convincing argument for it that'd make sense.

[Nosferatu]

>wagon
hood

[Nosferatu]

i haven't looked at any associatives yet

all i know is there should be 1-2 groupscum off of the luna wagon

[Vecna]

Should be, under normal circumstances, probably etc.

Are there really any scenario's where scum ever get punished for all being on the lynch though? I strongly doubt it happens often at all. And looking at how the D1 lynch was stalling so much, I wouldnt find it especially strange if scum just decided to get the dirty work done themselves.

[Nosferatu]

its not that they get punished for it, its just that groupscum don't like to be together on a wagon, especially a town one

its more of a psych thing than a self-interest thing

only time scum dogpile on a single wagon is when its an orchestrated event, usually to win a game

[MathBlade]

Prod dodge for the holiday will read this tomorrow.

[Vecna]

Im quite sure an RC yelling at people in daychat to dogpile on a very slow moving wagon would also result in said effect

Anyways, this is at the verge of just arguing for arguings sake.

[Nosferatu]

true

[Oath]

I think RadiantCowbells pointed this out before their exit which was that scumz keep not allowing us to lynch MathBlade. Of that I see Nos and Vecna being the most hesistant to do so. I already have a scumread on Vecna and I was null on Nos, but the probability of scum being MB, Nos, Vec, projectmatt (nsg slot) and Gamma (aronis slot) seems reasonable werewolf/anti-town to me.

Town reads:
hebichan-... and by their claim
HeWHoSwims - see above
Creature - Creature called out Aronis earlier on in the game in a way I read specifically townie and I have not waivered on that read since.
Vaxkiller (Yuurei slot) - I read this slot as newbie town early on since they were trying, but seemed easily influenced.
ArcAngel91 - feels towny to me

Null reads:
zMuffinMan
Theta Alpine
Ankamius

Oath is like RC's reincarnated adorable brother or some shit

Hey thanks, I'll take it. Mostly because I agree with RC on Math...

MATHBLADE IS 100% SCUM LYNCH THEM IF YOU AREN'T TERIBLE AT THIS GAME THANKS.

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my question is how the fuck is it so hard to lynch either of them

like people should either believe the guilty or not

its not something to either argue over either its bullshit or not

like there's no reason it should be a 4-3 between math and rc

BECAUSE SCUM ARE NOT LETTING MATHBLADE GO DOWN.

by the way

literally everyone in this game not voting mathblade right now owes me an apology when mathblade flips scum or don't talk to me ever again.

Should the Titus/RC slot flip town I'm inclined to agree. I got a headache and a similar frustration because by in large the issue in this game is that scum are most active and the townies don't listen. RC deserves an apology.

I don't want to be rude, but the game play here is disappointing. All perspectives should be at least considered, all points should be addressed. You guys are allowing things to slide through, siding with people because you've played with them before, and basing 90% of what you do off meta. It's not helpful and because of that you'll get run over. Focus. Seriously. Accept a new set of eyes even if you don't know me, I'm asking for trust at the expense of my own life. You have two slots who have pushed for a Math lynch with Vecna and Nos talking around letting it happen. I am not human. I will not satisfy a town wincon as a number. Of course I would like to lynch scum, and I believe that to be MathBlade enough to stake my game on it. If you believe me, sheep me. If you don't believe me, lynch me. It's neutral with information- you'll have confirmation of my slot although honestly I'm not confident that you guys are actually listening at all anyway.

Titus(RC slot) - I wanna believe this is town, but I would not not rule it out.

That being said, MathBlade lynch is still the way to go or just lynch me because honestly we're not going to win if you guys lynch town again. They'll nightkill me and continue to run this game. Stop listening to the voices who have consistently steered you wrong. It's ridiculous. As was the assertion that Day1 lynch VCs are skewed. No, you can use Day 1 lynches especially in a game this size with the information we've gathered since. Scum ensured a Luna lynch and it was weak reasoning.

[Titus]

I would lynch Oath over Mathblade. I'll be damned if we say Math has to be lynched because RC faked a guilty. It's garbage, annoying and toxic. Regardless of any flip, the game is just as dead if we lynch against it or for it. Let's talk about something else, so I hopefully can get a vc to go off of.

Scum likely could stall any wagon in the game to stop town cohension.

Vecna fight me if you need to, let's sort each other and get this game going tomorrow.

[Titus]

By tomorrow i mean tomorrow irl happy 4th.

[hebichan]

I was scumreading math independent of tge fake guilty. Voting my scumread in the neighborhood is still optimal.

[Titus]

I was scumreading math independent of tge fake guilty. Voting my scumread in the neighborhood is still optimal.

Explain the independent scumread. I don't see how hood lynching is optimal either.

While I sm disinclined to follow, I would like to hear substantive discussion.

[hebichan]

Didnt like how math claimed with little prompt, dont like math prematurely callinv his hood a town block, I dont like how cagey math is being.

As for why hood lynching is optimal,
1. We have an unclaimed vig if maths claim is real, since math claimed his hood didnt kill last night. Its set up spec, but if we have a vig and a 100 percent town vig neighborhood, that feels weird.

2. Unchecked absorby vig neighborhood can easily become a second scum kill and we would just lose right there.

[Nosferatu]

if we really want, we can turn a fully claimed hood into a revolving door masonry with a vig

[Titus]

Well, clarification question

is what you said all we know about the hood?

Tbh, if RC hadn't done a fake guilty I would be ok with an lol policy when Math protects players for no reason bc nice. He'll start tearing at a real townblock. If we have to hit scum today, not so sure that fits but I will make independent sort a priority.

Who else are your SRs?

[Titus]

if we really want, we can turn a fully claimed hood into a revolving door masonry with a vig

huh explain

[Titus]

2. Unchecked absorby vig neighborhood can easily become a second scum kill and we would just lose right there.

Huh?

[Nosferatu]

kill everyone in the hood except for a universal townread, recruit another universal town read and then vig literally every night no matter what

[Nosferatu]

idk if you knew this but the neighborhood math claimed has a shared vig and recruit power

(sounds almost like a factional ability but)

[hebichan]

Yeah math claimed his neighborhood can either recruit or kill every night. He claimed they recruited last night. However there were two kills last night and one of the kills was heavily scumread.

No one has claimed vig afaik.

[MathBlade]

kill everyone in the hood except for a universal townread, recruit another universal town read and then vig literally every night no matter what

Jesus Christ are you scum?

If you do that then scum just fucking kill that last person.

NAR says kills before recruits.

It’s why I wanna keep it secret.

I still am doing holiday stuff but Jesus this post is bad.

[Nosferatu]

i meant to say universal townreads as in 2 and keep 3 in the hood at all times

[Titus]

Look unless someone lays out the simple hood claim and how it condems someone as scummy, I won't care. No thinking a different strat is optimal is not scummy.

Talk to me about who I should vote based on play. The mechanics will sort themselves.