Mish Mash Reorganization
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Mish Mash Reorganization
We're doing a small amount of reorganization around the Mish Mash area. This forum is now known as "Other Forum Games" (mirroring many other sites for the ease of new players), and it's found under the "The Whole General Sort of Mish Mash" category, which now has both Large Social Games and Other Forum Games under it.CuddlyCaucasian, xRECKONERx and xofelf are now all known as Mish Mash List Moderators and will oversee both. This shouldn't lead to many changes for most of you..- Vijarada
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Is it a demotion? the only change was to the name and having reck, xo and CC all officially covering both (which was already practically the case).
Happy to use a different name, but anecdotally newer players find mish mash slower than they otherwise would with something that aligned with expectations. I don't have survey information to back that up, though, and you guys are much closer involved..-
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Just for what it's worth, mish mash previously was under "Other Games" as a category although I don't really expect people to notice the categories as they're fairly small compared to the forum names. In essence, the names got swapped so that Mish Mash includes LSG and "Other Games" rather than "Other Games" including Mish Mash and LSG. That allowed our listmods to be called "Mish Mash List Moderators" rather than "Other Games List Moderators" which it was felt was awkward. Again, I'm not married to this change or anything if we can come up with an acceptable alternative..- Vijarada
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Yeah like looking at the front page, The General Mish Mash is the title but on the other forums they actually fit their sub forums. "Mafia Games" have mafia games. "Discussion" has discussion forums. Imo Other Forum Games fits perfectly for the forum and having the whole sort of general mish mash seems fine as the sub forum
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The only real thing to the names of the Mafia forums is that they follow a specific theme, and you have to read the forum's description to determine whatIn post 18, xRECKONERx wrote:the issue is that people dont know what mish mash is and they have to go TO the forum to find the games and the title of Mish Mash doesn't really say muchkindof Mafia games are played there—the same thing you have to do to determine that Mish Mash is for non-Mafia games. With the arguable exception of the LSG, the only forums to have straightforward names are the ones where games are not played such as the queue forum and the discussion forums, andTHAT'Snot necessarily true for their subforums (although it's really rare for it not to be the case). I only see this as a convincing argument in the sense that Mafia players don't really have to worry so much about the actual forum name as the type of game that's played there, unlike Mish Mash players.
I'm not sure the problem we have in people not knowing about Mish Mash can be completely solved. We were designed to be primarily a Mafia community, so we've always played second fiddle. That said, Mish Mash has been an important part of the site identity for those of us whoDOfrequent it. Changing the name of the forum in an attempt to attract more people to it is a solution in search of a problem, and the motive fails to distinguish people who would play Mish Mash games if they knew about them from people who simply don't care about Mish Mash no matter what it's called. Promoting the forum is a better idea in my opinion, and we've done that with the Mashies and the Clash of the Mash.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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But to sign up to PLAY the game you go to the forum clearly marked "Queue" and there is directional stuff pointing people to the right place from the home page.
"Road to Rome" isn't descriptive, but that doesn't matter, because if someone wants to play a game they aren't going there anyway.green shirt thursdays- StrangerCoug
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That's true, but I'm saying that that's the only part of your argument that holds water. What you tried and are continuing to suggest is like changing the name of a city because people cannot find it on the map. It's absurd, it assumes stupidity on the newbies, and it deprives Mish Mash of the identity that it's had for well over a decade. Until I'm convinced Mish Mashers actuallyWANTa name change, I'm going to continue to argue against one.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I think I agree with StrangerCoug here. I also don't think changing the forum's name to "Other Forum Games" is going to have a huge impact on the number of people in mish-mash.- xRECKONERx
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I get that the title of Mish Mash is important but it doesn't say what it does. People come to this site for Mafia, like it or not. I know I didn't venture into the MM subforums for a while because I didn't quite get what it did. If we want Mish Mash to be a larger part of the site and move towards being equal, we have to be more visible, and having a silly name doesn't help that.
It's not a solution in search of a problem. We're focused on how to grow our userbase in Mish Mash, it's something me/xof/CC talk about a lot. Visibility is the key first step.green shirt thursdays- mallowgeno
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Maybe have like a stickied post that says what the Mish Mash forum is? I still don't understand why you would change "Other Forum Games" to "Mish Mash" because the mafia's forum title is 'Mafia Games' with things like 'Road to Rome, Coney Island, etc'. I guess it doesn't make sense to me why we wouldn't have a name like that for this forum when the forum title already is 'other games'. - mallowgeno
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