Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia Endgame

[mutantdevle]

What do you mean?

[WhemeStar]

Your basically letting hebi become president are you not

[mutantdevle]

How the fuck do you reach that conclusion?

Allowing time for both Hebichan to target themselves with their ability and other people to say a few words or have some input in no way puts Hebichan in control here.


I think we all know what's going to happen here. We lynch Hebi, they prevent their lynch, we then choose someone else. I see no reason to rush through that process and I'm intent on it going as smoothly as possible. Especially considering the following:

I can stop the lynch after its been chosen but before it resolves to stop the lynch and make the president resolve a new one.

The time between me lynching her and the mod resolving it is potentially very short. There's no guarantee Hebi will be on when I do that.

I can also set up my protest ability so that I can use it even if im not around,

We don't know if she has done this yet. She probably has but I want to wait for the confirmation from her to make sure this all works properly.

Naturally, if she takes too long to respond, I'll go ahead with the lynch without the confirmation. But I see no need to rush this.

[hebichan]

I did it the moment I had unlocked the ability. *shrugs*

[mutantdevle]

Cool.

VOTE: Hebichan

[jjh927]

Mr President, protesters seem to have gathered in light of your recent decision to lynch Hebichan. It is possible that following through on this course of action will significantly affect your approval ratings. Are you sure you want to lynch Hebichan? At any rate,

the protestors will prevent you from following through on this particular course of action for the next (expired on 2018-07-06 16:15:00), and you may change your decision if you so wish.

[Ausuka]

So should we go ahead and do it anyway?

[Invisibility]

how problematic is hebi's role?

[ofrhz]

how problematic is hebi's role?

We don't know. Considering hebi was partially lying about her protest ability, I don't think we can trust what she says her wincon is

[ofrhz]

Mr President, protesters seem to have gathered in light of your recent decision to lynch Hebichan.

It is possible that following through on this course of action will significantly affect your approval ratings.

Are you sure you want to lynch Hebichan? At any rate,

the protestors will prevent you from following through on this particular course of action for the next (expired on 2018-07-06 16:15:00), and you may change your decision if you so wish.

Bad approval ratings could mean the president cannot run again

[ofrhz]

I think we should lynch hebi anyway

[mutantdevle]

I don't consider Hebichan to be a threat. More than anything, this was a claim test.

So for now:
UNVOTE:

@Everyone, please vote again with hurt or vote tags. You may vote for Hebichan again if you wish but, honestly, I think that's a waste of a lynch.

I will be placing intent on the most popular person to be lynched in (expired on 2018-07-07 16:00:00).

[Ausuka]

HURT: tazaro

[Invisibility]

HURT: tazaro

[skitter30]

don't consider Hebichan to be a threat. More than anything, this was a claim test.

I mean, from the flavor text it seems like she can indeed get lynched after the 24 hours are up, which she kinda failed to mention.

Why aren't you concerned about her?

I kinda want to get wheme to claim.

If we dont lynch her today we need to talk about the distrct-locking ability thing she claimed, which iirc she can use after being in one tied district.

HURT: hebi
HURT: wheme

[Tazaro]

HURT: HURT: Whemestar
If it's between he or I. I know 100% I am town.

[mutantdevle]

Why aren't you concerned about her?

Because if Hebichan's win condition ends the game then jjh needs to rethink how they balance games.

Do you know what turns third parties against the town? Constantly treating them as though they are mafia. Hebichan has expressed willingness to cooperate with us and I don't see why we can't take her up on that. Because if we don't, the mafia will. She has also claimed she leaves the game if she wins. So she's hardly going to stab us in the back after that. I'm not prepared to go out of the way to give her a win, but I don't think we should be directly opposing her. We should accept her help where she offers it. If she ever starts becoming a serious threat, we neutralise her. Currently, her only crime is double voting. Which is obviously easily explained by her win condition.

[hebichan]

I'm here and listening.

Yeah, to be fair, I wasn't told the exact phrasing of the protest flavor.

[skitter30]

HURT: HURT: Whemestar
If it's between he or I. I know 100% I am town.

you have two pseudo-votes on you; it's not like you're imminently getting lynched

like this feels very survivalistic in a situation that doesn't exactly warrant it; it's a bit of an overreaction to what's actually happening

Because if Hebichan's win condition ends the game then jjh needs to rethink how they balance games.

fair enough

2. I can choose to arrange the members of a single district one night. This is after I am in a single tied district. My choices supercede the mafia's and if it causes two or less people to be in another district, the mafia can reshuffle any other district to fit the constraints.

ok how do we use this then?

-Gerrymandering: The mafia may move any number of players between districts, which becomes public knowledge the following day. Each district must contain at least 2 players.

You will do so secretly (via PM) and irrevocably. All players will occupy 1 of 5 districts- the players within them will be decided on by the mafia in the preceding night (including night 0), and each must contain at least 2 players.

these seem to be the constraints. given that hebi can only assign the one district i feel like it might be a good idea to put a lot of the lolvoters in the same district so that we don't have to worry about them as much?

alternatively we can try to create a district that we know will vote a certain way to give a guaranteed district to someone. idk if that would work because to circumvent this maf can prob just kill that person, so this might not be the best idea actually

idk, these are the two ideas i have right off the bat; if anyone else has better ideas now's a good time to share them

[Aronis]

This election was #Rigged

[Aronis]

I am appalled by this complete lack of a democratic process in what's proven to be an utterly scandalous mess.

[123456789]

HURT: WhemeStar
HURT: Firebringer
HURT: Not Known 15

I think I agree with Mutant's logic here regarding Hebi actually.

[WhemeStar]

Oh ok I read hebis role wrong

[WhemeStar]

HURT: WhemeStar
HURT: Firebringer
HURT: Not Known 15

I think I agree with Mutant's logic here regarding Hebi actually.

2 of these are bad

Also what are the chances of 2 third parties in a game?

Please someone answer this

[WhemeStar]

I’d prefer an orfhx Lynch and a lie detector on not known 15