Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Sakura Hana]

I'm most likely going to take it easy D1, and probably D2, considering the ammount of players.
Don't care if i get a power or not, being vanilla suits me fine as im bad at night actions anyway.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Cerberus

[Sakura Hana]

i thought we were gonna wait for FA, but might as well, i voted muffin coz he had epic reads on my last game with him.

also muffins > cupcakes

[Sakura Hana]

We had RVS?

[Sakura Hana]

Random notes: FA and Cerb not scum together if either is scum.

[Sakura Hana]

We had RVS?

why did you ask this?

Rhetorical / sarcasm question.

[Sakura Hana]

Dunno, but scum having day chat and not pregame chat seems rather silly to me.

[Sakura Hana]

If they have pre-game chat, they would have coordinated.

Would they?

Man finding scum is gonna be a cinch, we just have to find and lynch a large group of ppl that all voted for the same person!

Man i bet scum never thought we'd think they'd all vote for the same person!

[Sakura Hana]

I'm interested in seeing you find this 'coordination' then.

[Sakura Hana]

If you think scum did some sort of plan for whom they voted, you need to figure out the "why" and the "how", and so you can use this info to figure out who's scum and who isn't, as is, this seems like an exercise in futility because anything could have happened, even worse than NKA in terms of figuring out what went on with scum's vote. Not going to stop you, just giving my opinion, if you think you can find scum by it then all the more power to you.

Because at current, i see you asking for info, because information helps the town, but i dont see you figuring out anything out of said information, and ill reserve my judgement for when you do (or dont).

[Sakura Hana]

Do you have any contributions to make other than shitting on sando/chickadee/whoever else talked about scum coordination's position?

Nope

I see your gradual descent towards painting everyone who is speculating about scum actions as engaging in useless scummy fluffy mechanical talk instead of scumhunting

Painting?

yet I don't actually see you doing anything any better yourself.

Maybe you need better glasses then.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh, and whoever decided that FA and I can't be scum together, please elaborate on that position. I don't believe you're familiar with me at least, so I'm very interested in what it is about FA's play and actions with regards to me that goes against your expectations for her interactions with scummates in the past.

That was me Mr. "Sakura's not contributing anything".
And no im not gonna elaborate as of right now, I dont plan on putting much effort atm.

[Sakura Hana]

Good thing this isnt MU then.

[Sakura Hana]

Maybe it's just me, but usually when i don't understand something why someone's doing something I ask.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh wait, you did ask, my bad.

[Sakura Hana]

Why would anyone want to reduce their amount of effort intentionally and how will that help?

1 - I already have a hard time keeping track of everyone in such a large game, so im stating already im not putting effort so i dont have to answer questions about people i dont even remember.
2 - I have noticed that putting more effort D1 just causes a lot of arguing and in fighting and TvTing and i just dont want to deal with that stress.
3 - Scums are easier to find lategame anyway.

Based on this, i decided to do a change of approach this game and see how it goes. That way i can relax, and then start analyzing when there's more information out in the open.

[Sakura Hana]

yeah, but we must have a day 1 and day 2 to reach that endgame. tvts and discussions produce the content needed for the late stage that you're talking about

Eh maybe i didnt express myself correctly, but ill expand upon this to make it clear.
I am not saying tvts and discussions should be 100% voided.
I selfishly feel it's better for my sanity and will reduce the ammount of stress induced if i dont have to yell at people to push for a lynch or trying to defend myself, last game taught me as much.
And so I decided to not put any effort in doing either for the time being.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm pretty sure the mod said at some point the abilities are unlimited use.

[Sakura Hana]

It's obvious why the existance of a scum leader is good for the scum team, they would be able to know which players have superpowers.
As a town leader you're uninformed and may end up inadvertedly giving scum a superpower.

Suffice to say, I think im not gonna rely on PRs to find scum, that mechanic is swing af, and it also puts a lot of pressure on whoever the current leader is.

"But with great power, comes great responsibility"

[Sakura Hana]

Dont mind me just letting you know that most stuff you're asking can be answered by reading the section about the mechanics.

The Incubation Chambers must be carefully prepared before each use. As such, the Superpowers available for acquisition will be made public at the beginning of each Day Phase.
2. I will only answer questions about a Superpower for the first Day and Night Phase after it has been revealed.

3. The Superpowers available for acquisition is always equivalent to six.

4. Iff a Lynch occurs, the Leader and each of their Superhero Teammates may select one Superpower of their choosing for acquisition by PM'ing the Moderator.
5. A player may only acquire up to one Superpower each Night Phase.
6. A Superpower may be acquired and used in the same Night Phase.

7. Multiple players may acquire the same Superpower.

8. There is no limit to the number of Superpowers a player may acquire throughout the game.
9. Unless otherwise specified, players may only use one Superpower per Night Phase. For Aspiring Villains, this is in addition to any factional abilities they may have (including their factional nightkill).
10. Factional Abilities for the Aspiring Villains are not treated as Superpowers.

[Sakura Hana]

oh I interpreted Muffin's comment as brutal sarcasm
in which case I agree

if it was literal it was stupid

Nah it was obvious sarcasm

[Sakura Hana]

Oh man, and just when i was thinking of switching my vote, Cerb goes ahead and posts #353

[Sakura Hana]

but we could tell everyone to take BP (it's not very useful on scum anyway I don't think)

Not thinking hard enough, I guess.
But scum could lie about what power they got saying they got BP when they got something else, just to explain why they dont die at night. Furthermore one of the abilities can redirect the scum kill back at them?

[Sakura Hana]

Or you can read the signup thread.

I am a Villian so I am not allowed to in.
But I am allowed to spectate.

[Sakura Hana]

what are your town/scumreads

I think muffin, katsuki, FA and hebichan are town.
I think cerb and brass are scum.

[Sakura Hana]

can you write one sentence for each

Can? Sure.
Will I? Nah.

Don't feel interested enough to defend any TR or SR yet, much rather see if anyone notices what im noticing.

[Sakura Hana]

And yet if everyone does what you're doing

But they arent.

purposefully proceeds to ignore the rest of cerb's post

[Sakura Hana]

I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.

And so what im doing in this game was born.

[Sakura Hana]

Sure cerb, whatever floats your little pirate ship.

[Sakura Hana]

find your reasoning extremely villagery from you

Really?
I thought that was the scummiest post in this entire game.

[Sakura Hana]

Is Nancy this open and honest as scum?

As far as i know from my previous experience with her, she hasnt rolled scum yet.
I do remember she being kind of naive

[Sakura Hana]

I'm pretty sure I gave reads.

[Sakura Hana]

you gave reads, just didn't expand when asked.

That is correct.

if you can go down from your millennial podium for a second to explain this one I'd appreciate it.

I'd appreciate it if you didnt talk about it in that way, I never said I was better than anyone, nor that my reads should be listened to without explanation, im just relaxing and being lazy.

[Sakura Hana]

@sakura

read human sequencer and 123456789 ISOs and tell me what you see

Eh, i just double ISO'd them, didn't find anything notable from HS except maybe less active than in minuet's trio, and apparently numbers cant decide if he townreads you or not, then goes into mechanic talk.

[Sakura Hana]

*headdesk

Ugh, I keep looking at them and I'm not sure what exactly am I supposed to be finding to see what you're seeing, how do you even do this, I wanna learn.

[Sakura Hana]

Can people who've already expressed scumreads on Titus elaborate why? I've got my own suspicions and and to see if anyone agrees.

like you can just let someone give a reason and say "oh hey I noticed the same thing woohoo!"

Don't mind me i found that kinda funny xD

[Sakura Hana]

lol Finding secret messages in videos when scum is confirmed to have Day Chat and Katsuki's not scum.

[Sakura Hana]

Dunno im most likely voting muffin again for leader.

[Sakura Hana]

So ummm

If a person hypothetically SRs both candidates, why would they be forced to play in a suboptimal manner so that one of their SRs is guaranteed leader next?

I mean I SR cerb, rn, but that seems to be what everyone wants to lead.

[Sakura Hana]

what makes her town? for the 1000000 time, sakura, why is katsuki town?

[ ] We're masons
[ ] I have a daycop inno on them
[ ] They are day 1 friendly neighbors
[ ] Their play is very towny
[ ] Meta says they're town.
Take your pick

[Sakura Hana]

How does their meta say they are towny?

It doesnt, im just giving a generic answer coz im tired of being asked, when i already said i didnt want to put effort.

[Sakura Hana]

Appears to be showing effort=town

Pretty much why im not a fan of the TRs on you.

[Sakura Hana]

Granted 839 is the first bit of some sort of honest scumhunting i see from you.

[Sakura Hana]

lol Finding secret messages in videos when scum is confirmed to have Day Chat and Katsuki's not scum.

Yeah I'm sorry I won't ask for explanations all the time but a Katsuki townread really does need a logical reason, given the whole ISO is devoid of stuff to townread imho

I'll explain it if you tell me what is Katsuki's master scum plan by putting himself in a spotlight without providing content that make ppl scumread him, on purpose.

[Sakura Hana]

A term people use a lot is the term "Anti-town" to define people that play against town's win condition. Well I think the way Katsuki is playing is anti-scum, it may be of no help to town, but is even less helpful for scum, not pushing an agenda and potentially being scumread and lynched for it, the only scum motivation it could have is not providing content, and that's actually NAI for katsuki (scum citation needed, but he does it as town), the way he purposefully fake claimed a post restriction makes it lean more towards town side, coz that draws more attention than is needed, not helping scum at all.

Even if you take out the anti-scum option, Kats lack of content D1 is something NAI.

Hope that clears things up.

plus at least songs give me something to listen to, much better than hangman

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura, Titus, Gamma, FA, Ank: Read on this slot please and thank you.

I think a good bunch of his catch up posts align with what i thought of the gamestate at that point, considering i never elaborated on anything it's certainly possible he came to those thoughts on his own, and is more likely town rather than copying me or appealing to me.
The toranaga read is something i hadn't considered myself tho, and i find it a Point of Interest, might have to look at magical girls and compare.

[Sakura Hana]

sakura can you unpack this for me

what's your thought process behind this statement

Eh do i really have to?

ok fine

There's ultimately 2 possibilities, either the current leader is town, or the current leader is scum, a scum leader will obviously guarantee at least him/herself a PR, possibly to counter potential superpowers the town may come with, like the redirection or the BP. A town leader wont have perfect reads, and there's a high chance they give at least 1 scum a superpower, for the same reason, this will cause most PRs to be easily be thwarted by scum, and then it's harder to trust anything that comes from it, as such not relying on PRs seems the most sensible option.

[Sakura Hana]

For compromising i'll do anyone that i havent stated is a townread, but with preference on the people i have stated a scumread on.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah, we also need to wait to make sure FA has chosen the people.
VOTE: Numbers
Will like you to talk about that cerb TR at some point tho.

[Sakura Hana]

No Idea (1): Katsuki

*giggle*

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah man, let's tell all the scum where all the PRs are, sounds like a neat idea.

[Sakura Hana]

Also i did say that i townread katsuki, idk wtf numbers is on.
Not in this game that's for sure.

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah man, let's tell all the scum where all the PRs are, sounds like a neat idea.

Wasn't it you who said that we shouldn't rely on PRs this game

Yes, i did, but i still dunno why knowing who is a PR benefits us.

[Sakura Hana]

Katsuki never mentioned who he voted for in our mason chat either.
Don't think it's gamebreaking relevant information tho.

[Sakura Hana]

and yes I went from wanting her dead to sheeping her. you mafiascummers just gonna have to deal with it.

I wouldnt mind, but why did you have to pre-emptively defend yourself like this?

[Sakura Hana]

Day 1 is almost over and it's already going way better than my previous game.
Guess this new approach is helping.

[Sakura Hana]

more like FA I guess, wouldnt want to end day before she chooses the team no?

[Sakura Hana]

This is, pretty interesting.

[Sakura Hana]

I think Ankamius can be town for now.
Problem is im like 5% confident in that read.

I dunno Ankamius has felt like.... weird.

[Sakura Hana]

I dunno what's wrong with me, but the past few pages feel like a blur.

[Sakura Hana]

Well I obviously would like my mason partner to be leader.

[Sakura Hana]

Sure
{Katsuki}
{muffin}
{nos}
{} <- FA would go here, but she cant be leader twice in a row, so im unsure on who my 4th option would be.

[Sakura Hana]

I guess if i sheep muffin's opinion i'd put cerb there, i still have my reservations tho. Cerb's gistou play led me to believe he's not to be underestimated.

[Sakura Hana]

I guess if i sheep muffin's opinion i'd put cerb there, i still have my reservations tho. Cerb's gistou play led me to believe he's not to be underestimated.

I don't think you were in gistou, at least not under this nick. If there's an alt that's outed going on here, I would appreciate being made aware of it...or at least have you confirm that you 100% were in Gistou and are thus familiar enough with two day phases of my scumplay in a game where I was apparently town enough as scum that the other scum team shot me cuz I was obvtown.

Luna Fox

[Sakura Hana]

I guess if i sheep muffin's opinion i'd put cerb there, i still have my reservations tho. Cerb's gistou play led me to believe he's not to be underestimated.

I don't think you were in gistou, at least not under this nick. If there's an alt that's outed going on here, I would appreciate being made aware of it...or at least have you confirm that you 100% were in Gistou and are thus familiar enough with two day phases of my scumplay in a game where I was apparently town enough as scum that the other scum team shot me cuz I was obvtown.

Luna Fox

holy wtf I had no idea
that's cool
do you make a distinction between your two accounts meta-wise? Because I do have experience with your other account and want to know if that's not valid.

Main difference is that as Luna i did more townhunting than scumhunting, i tried to implement that into my main when i stopped using that account, so maybe? it's been a while since i last used that account.

[Sakura Hana]

Plus i guess since this is an experiment i've been doing this game it's probably irrelevant, last game i was driven to tears because i hard pushed someone and i... dont really want a repeat of that ever, i mean i almost just flat out quit, but figured this option was better.

[Sakura Hana]

Uh how were you driven to tears by pushing someone else? If it's to hard for you I won't push you, but in that case I'd like someone familiar with the incident to bring me up to speed.

Basically i pushed someone, and then i got pushed instead. Had literally everyone including my friends pushing me, and everytime i or someone tried to defend myself someone would bring up "but she does that as scum too!", and i basically only got out when i claimed a PR.
Also I had a talk that game with Katsuki where he explained to me that he just does nothing D1 so he can avoid all the BS and stuff going back and forth, and i thought it was a good idea, so that's what i was... going to do this game, but ended up not doing it anyway.

[Sakura Hana]

i think regardless of what you think of each other neither is getting lynched today, deadline is too short.
Nancy just vote Numbers.

[Sakura Hana]

The day ends in (expired on 2018-07-15 18:00:00).

[Sakura Hana]

we still need to see the latest VC, but it's gonna be pretty much deciding between numbers and titus i think.

[Sakura Hana]

Sorry kokichi, but i rather have my mason partner be leader

[Sakura Hana]

@muffin: When i was going through your reads list I saw you had a question about Titus. Now my last experience with scum Titus was a game a long time ago called Street Fighter Mafia (played as Luna Fox on that one from the middle of D2), up until THAT game most people were very confident that Titus never buses, however in that game Titus bused a partner on D2, she ended up going down that game and the player she bused (Varsoon), didnt get lynched until later and I was almost certain he was town just coz of Titus flipping scum.

The circumstances may have been different however you can check it out here

[Sakura Hana]

Not sure what this has to do with bussing but I’d totally lynch her for all of the terribad memes.

Mostly D2 stuff iirc, at least that's when i replaced in.

[Sakura Hana]

Wait nancy, did you just break the page

[Sakura Hana]

remember the good old days when you would say null instead of NAI.

[Sakura Hana]

Well numbers is L-4, titus is L-6 i think?

[Sakura Hana]

Now i wanna lynch Numbers the most after that post

[Sakura Hana]

I mean Ank switched votes after I said this:

Well numbers is L-4, titus is L-6 i think?

[Sakura Hana]

I don’t like that at all. It seems super scummy to me. What is your take on it?

I didnt like that either, hence my reply right after

[Sakura Hana]

The day ends in (expired on 2018-07-15 18:00:00).

I hope you guys remember that if we dont achieve a lynch, FA loses her protection, so even if the lack of info wasnt already bad, we reaaaaally should be trying to lynch someone. @ppl not voting either titus or numbers

[Sakura Hana]

I voted for my mason partner katsuki.

[Sakura Hana]

Why did people vote for someone that blatantly lied is beyond me tho.

[Sakura Hana]

Granted tho, idk why, but i had this gut feeling that Titus was the scum CW yesterday. Maybe it had something to do with Ankamius trying to equalize the wagons.

[Sakura Hana]

i can't even make sense of #1885, even taking into account it's titus logic

can someone please translate that into english

1 i dont get it
2 means that if 3 or fewer votes are wrong, means 3 or less scum piled on titus, and titus alignment is still unknown since she could be the 4th scum.
3 means that if 4 votes are wrong, then Titus should be lock town coz it's clear all 4 scum lied.

[Sakura Hana]

Granted tho, idk why, but i had this gut feeling that Titus was the scum CW yesterday. Maybe it had something to do with Ankamius trying to equalize the wagons.

Did you announce who you voted for?

My Mason partner, and yes i did.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura you realize that the play you're referencing is out of my scumrange, right?

You may say this, but as I mentioned on minuet's trio, aside from people like notty I have a hard time meta reading.

[Sakura Hana]

i also want to make it clear that since i predicted cerb's death i am thus conf town.

that will be all

I'd argue the opposite, but i still think you're town.

[Sakura Hana]

i trust my mason partner on this, im 100% sure he wouldnt lie about this kind of thing.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh so scum titus wants to go after hebi now.
Interesting.

[Sakura Hana]

@Sakura, wtf is into you? Are you trying to annoy me now?

But you have a guilty from my mason partner!

[Sakura Hana]

Ok, we both know that guilties and masonries are not things.

It's okay, the least people believe it's a thing the longer we survive.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm pretty sure hebi's town btw.
If she had rolled scum she'd be running for the emergency exit within the first few pages of this game.

[Sakura Hana]

nah muffin's play this game doesn't align with what i remember of his scum game.

[Sakura Hana]

nah muffin's play this game doesn't align with what i remember of his scum game.

What is his scumgame like? I’ve only played with him as town.

It's kinda hard to explain, it feels like it's lacking cockiness, basically I remember he'd done the opposite of things I'd expect scum to be doing. Meanwhile there's a game solving kind of tone in his posting in this game, that's similar to Minuet's.

[Sakura Hana]

He acknowledged that on D1 but never explained it.

I don't feel any difference in tone, and i don't see him acknowledging it, it feels like his "how observant" was directed at your overall post and not specifically the tone part, I could be wrong tho.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh! I found it!

[Sakura Hana]

oh, right, that reminds me. drixx is scum

OMGUS much?

titus, the worst, maybe drixx are where i'd look at first tomorrow pretty much regardless of the flip

LOL.

[Sakura Hana]

Can you explain what you mean by this?

I mean exactly as it says, me and katsuki are masons.

[Sakura Hana]

Eh i guess it's the best lead so far since the cop guilty's unlynchable
VOTE: Drixx

[Sakura Hana]

Following muffin was a good idea D1 so im trusting him again, I also didnt like how drixx called muffin's statement an OMGUS, when muffin's had suspicions on Drixx since D1.

[Sakura Hana]

Nah, Drixx is scum.
Titus is a cop guilty
Katsuki's my mason partner

go from there

[Sakura Hana]

EDIT: RECEIVED A PM THAT TITUS IS SCUM LAST NIGHT BTW SO LYNCH WHENEVER

And why the fuck would you claim mason?

Because ppl were SRing my mason partner

[Sakura Hana]

@Sakura Hana — I kinda doubt Drixx is scum. Why do you think so?

I didnt like his interactions with muffin, also muffin gave us a scum lynch D1, so i trust him.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm not 100% it's a 1v1, but, muffin mentioned 3 ppl (including titus and drixx, forgot the 3rd) that should be looked at today regardless of what Numbers flipped, Drixx later today comes and says that muffin is scum, and muffin says that he remembered that drixx is scum and drixx proceeds to call it OMGUS, even tho muffin had already said previously he had suspicions of drixx.

[Sakura Hana]

Then slow down and provide posts please.

2136 and read downwards.

[Sakura Hana]

It would help me greatly to read you and Katsuki and I am leaning towards one or both of you being scum based on the first setup post with blank role PMs.

Can you please not assume things you dont know about the setup?

[Sakura Hana]

yeah everyone begins with no superpowers, that much is clear, doesnt mean i didnt begin the game confirmed town with another player.

[Sakura Hana]

Especially coming from people who know better than to push the shit they're pushing.

Like who?

[Sakura Hana]

I dont think muffin ever pushes people based on their activity, so I dunno why you keep saying activity isnt a tell for you, unless you're saying Gamma's wrong for saying your low activity is indicative of you town.

[Sakura Hana]

Hmm interesting.
Regardless i dont think muffin as scum needed to take the approach he needed to do to get Numbers lynch if Numbers is his partner, i trust muffin to be town, and i know muffin is a great scumhunter from our game in minuet's trio so im sheeping him (Dont think anyone was suspecting Numbers until muffin brought up that he was scum).

[Sakura Hana]

why do i have to rescind it if you're not gonna believe it if i dont regardless?
You be you and I will continue being me.

[Sakura Hana]

@MathBlade
It had to be done:

Spoiler:

what makes her town? for the 1000000 time, sakura, why is katsuki town?

[ ] We're masons
[ ] I have a daycop inno on them
[ ] They are day 1 friendly neighbors
[ ] Their play is very towny
[ ] Meta says they're town.
Take your pick

what makes her town? for the 1000000 time, sakura, why is katsuki town?

[ ] We're masons
[ ] I have a daycop inno on them
[ ] They are day 1 friendly neighbors
[ ] Their play is very towny
[ ] Meta says they're town.
Take your pick

This mentality is so unbelievably trash

It's also nothing like your play last game
VOTE: sakura

How does their meta say they are towny?

It doesnt, im just giving a generic answer coz im tired of being asked, when i already said i didnt want to put effort.

lol Finding secret messages in videos when scum is confirmed to have Day Chat and Katsuki's not scum.

Yeah I'm sorry I won't ask for explanations all the time but a Katsuki townread really does need a logical reason, given the whole ISO is devoid of stuff to townread imho

I'll explain it if you tell me what is Katsuki's master scum plan by putting himself in a spotlight without providing content that make ppl scumread him, on purpose.

A term people use a lot is the term "Anti-town" to define people that play against town's win condition. Well I think the way Katsuki is playing is anti-scum, it may be of no help to town, but is even less helpful for scum, not pushing an agenda and potentially being scumread and lynched for it, the only scum motivation it could have is not providing content, and that's actually NAI for katsuki (scum citation needed, but he does it as town), the way he purposefully fake claimed a post restriction makes it lean more towards town side, coz that draws more attention than is needed, not helping scum at all.

Even if you take out the anti-scum option, Kats lack of content D1 is something NAI.

Hope that clears things up.

plus at least songs give me something to listen to, much better than hangman

[Sakura Hana]

?
When did i say drixx was a cop guilty

[Sakura Hana]

yeah since the cop guilty's unlynchable, ergo, Titus

[Sakura Hana]

Like... I never said drixx was a cop guilty, stop misinterpreting my words.

[Sakura Hana]

@Sakura

Katsuki your conftown Mason buddy did.

He said Titus was guilty.

[Sakura Hana]

Fine by me

[Sakura Hana]

I just wish there was a way to prove it without sacrificing conf town.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean mod said scum have factional abilities other than super powers, i dunno why you expect town to have none.

[Sakura Hana]

Le sigh... first time ever i roll mason and ppl want to lynch my mason partner to "test it".
Guess i'll just have to stick with being IC.

[Sakura Hana]

Then why are you "testing" it lol.
It doesnt make any sense if you have 0 reason to believe it.

[Sakura Hana]

Exactly. I think there is a chance of it being a scum gambit.

Then why are u giving me a super power?

[Sakura Hana]

This

I mean post 3 from the mod.

It's impossible to take you face value unless the mod lied.

and this:

Off chance you aren't lying we want you to live.

Dont make sense

[Sakura Hana]

Shiro has literally stated that there's 0 chance im telling the truth unless the mod lied... well i dont see this being advertised as bastard have you?
Yet she's willing to let potential scum get a super power?

I dont think Shiro actually believes there is a modicrum of chance that im not lying and just wants to chain up lynches
VOTE: Shiro

Btw, yes, im not a mason

[Sakura Hana]

I already explained Katsuki D1 lol.
(And katsuki fake claiming anything is nothing out of the ordinary for him)

[Sakura Hana]

A term people use a lot is the term "Anti-town" to define people that play against town's win condition. Well I think the way Katsuki is playing is anti-scum, it may be of no help to town, but is even less helpful for scum, not pushing an agenda and potentially being scumread and lynched for it, the only scum motivation it could have is not providing content, and that's actually NAI for katsuki (scum citation needed, but he does it as town), the way he purposefully fake claimed a post restriction makes it lean more towards town side, coz that draws more attention than is needed, not helping scum at all.

Even if you take out the anti-scum option, Kats lack of content D1 is something NAI.

Hope that clears things up.

plus at least songs give me something to listen to, much better than hangman

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My only remotely recent experience with Katsuki is Minuet's trio, not only did he do nothing D1, he also fake claimed a guilty that got scum lynched. Ank can attest to that coz Ank knew Katsuki was roleblocked that night on that game.

You basically want to lynch someone on NAI reasons as I have provided a counter example, not only that you also wanted to give a potential scum a super power, and since you knew Katsuki wasnt gonna flip mason, chain lynches (I mean sure he could flip scum, but I know im not, alhtough considering you wanting to lynch him, makes me believe more that he's town)

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Yeah, giving out scum the ability to freely kill someone like FA, while getting in return 2 town lynches.

Great plan, yeah.

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Oh wait, but if im getting that then it wouldnt be in scum hands.

So from a Shiro PoV it'd be getting 1 town lynch, 1 scum lynch and 1 free kill.

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Still dont think the free kill's worth it, Shiro just wanted to give potential scum a super power.

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It also fished the truth out of sakura so I call that a win on itself.

Maybe you shouldn't have, you'd have gotten 2 free lynches on town.
Too bad for you.

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It also fished the truth out of sakura so I call that a win on itself.

Maybe you shouldn't have, you'd have gotten 2 free lynches on town.
Too bad for you.

Except you know, I am town.

No you're not.

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In hindsight i shouldn't have said anything, it would guarantee that townie (me) gets a super power.
But then I remembered that you dont need to pick 5 ppl.

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We fished out the truth so for now that's enough for me.

I mean, it was the most obvious lie ever, im surprised anyone actually believed it.
Including you, which is why i think this is a scum motivated stunt.

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Basically your plan involves lynching Katsuki who is a great scumhunter, just... he goes weird ways about it.
Giving me a PR, and then lynching me after being transformed into a town PR.

You calling Katsuki useless, doesnt change the fact that he literally guided us to lynching all scum back to back in minuet's trio while being "useless"

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And shiro lining up lynches and stuff.

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Like randomization just denies reads why the fuck wasn’t Titus lynched day one for this?

Because we lynched Numbers instead.

[Sakura Hana]

Well seems like i dont need to put effort in this game ever, you guys are doing fine without me.

[Sakura Hana]

Towning up would be a huge help, sakura

Why?

[Sakura Hana]

If you think my spat with Shiro was scum motivated in any way of form then I have nothing else to do here.

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Why?

Because muffin wanted Numbers lynched, the end of D1 was something similar of Titus trying to be lynched INSTEAD of Numbers.

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This means we have to make it appealing enough for Titus to do if scum while at the same time minimizing impact to town. The leadership we can just steal. We vote for a leader today with a temporary vote like heal tags or something then once we get majority that is one option. That person picks the other leader option.

All votes cast for leader must be those people or none or it is a scumclaim.

muffin and cerb tried to do that D1, not many cooperated, that's how we ended up with Titus leader today.

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well the leadership part i mean

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If I thought your spat with Shiro was scum-motivated, your name would be red

I mean, either it is or it isnt.
It's not like im a Neutral or something.

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My read is that it's within your town-range and within your scum-range

This again....
As if i didnt have enough of that in minuet's trio.

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Well seems like i dont need to put effort in this game ever, you guys are doing fine without me.

So i'm just gonna float for now, let you guys figure everything yourselves, and do whatever, im clearly not needed here.

[Sakura Hana]

If you want to lynch me for that then suit yourselves.

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where's your head at anyway, sakura?

My head's currently on you, FA, Math and cupcake town.
Titus, Drix and Shiro scum, maybe kokichi, he literally has like dissapeared.

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Suffice to say, I think im not gonna rely on PRs to find scum, that mechanic is swing af, and it also puts a lot of pressure on whoever the current leader is.

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Tbh this mechanic gives me flashbacks of midscummer's dream.

[Sakura Hana]

Tbh this mechanic gives me flashbacks of midscummer's dream.

Link me?

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=72943
...
Did you forget already, you replaced me that game.

[Sakura Hana]

Actually
Cant scum just use power negation on Cerb to prevent any spirit medium from targeting them?

[Sakura Hana]

But, that possibility I didn't think of. Did you ask the mod about it?

I didn't.
Why?

[Sakura Hana]

Well, why dont YOU ask the mod then.
You're the one with the godlike game solving reads not me.

[Sakura Hana]

Nice to see that we're rehashing D1's useless questions that can be found in the mod's op posts.

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Just as productive as speculating whether scum had pregame chat or not.

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Honestly i dunno why i care.
You guys are the ones that are correct and im the one that's wrong after all.

[Sakura Hana]

Btw please do remember while choosing teams that a player may only use ONE super power per night.
Also please do remember that you can choose anywhere from 0 to 5 ppl.
Also please do remember to not include me in any super hero team.

Thanks in advance.

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I dunno exactly where

6. A Superpower may be acquired and used in the same Night Phase.

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just read post 2.
You're welcome

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Drix

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Today I learned that 2 days and a half is not close enough to the end of the day.

[Sakura Hana]

Pretty sure Sando's town now.

On another note, Siren's call is kind of unreliable, FA notified us of 5 people she selected for her team, on a supposed FA scum that lied, we have 2 scum with potential Siren's call and 4 towns that may or may not have Spiritual Mediumship. If there's 3 town that chose Siren's Call, then at least 1 will succeed, so trying to go via the angle of FA lied and killed cerb doesnt seem feasible?

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If there's 3 town that chose Siren's Call

*that chose Spiritual Mediumship

derp

[Sakura Hana]

I mean i did say i did not want a super power anyway

[Sakura Hana]

Siren's Call

: Target another player. That player's actions will be redirected to target you instead of their original target until the next Night Phase.

Not... really?

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I actually misread your comment and thought you said that i was misreading the power lol

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lol FA, I was looking at that statement and realized "huh why" then realized the implications of a potential Shiro and Katsuki team with the whole "plan" thing.
An angle i didnt consider.

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Lets fix that next games or from now on!

I mean, i wouldnt mind it's just.
Generally when i put effort D1, all that happens is that people want to lynch me because im apparently some godlike scum player that can fake anything, which isnt really true. It's driven me to the point where I want to roll scum and destroy my scum meta once and for all.

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It doesn't work that way

Ok then I guess Minuet's Trio was all a dream and i wasnt scumread there, and wisdom and you totally didnt deflect any townreads on me with "She can do that as scum too"

[Sakura Hana]

Then why not just quote the last sentence instead =_=

[Sakura Hana]

do you know NAI stands for not alignment indicative?

no, i think it stands for null.
Jokes aside, I was townreading kats at that point yes, for literally the same reason i TR him D1, A re-read of his play this game (or rather a re-read of his play in M'sT) makes me think im probably wrong tho.

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Why would you not want to be included?

Because I dont trust myself to use any sort of PR in any helpful way because I always suck with night actions.

[Sakura Hana]

Do people here have no sense of humor =/

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i'm good for fake claiming mason? nani?

[Sakura Hana]

@Sakura — I don’t know what nani means but here is why again in more depth

Yeah i found it, i went through your ISO coz i remember you kept critizising my mason fake claim before.

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It's kinda disheartening for me that the only reason you think im good candidate is because i did something anti-town (i.e. fake claim mason)

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It's kinda disheartening for me that the only reason you think im good candidate is because i did something anti-town (i.e. fake claim mason)

@Math

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Cool. I am going to bed but FA if you see this please nominate two townreads for leadership this way scum can’t take shit over.

Will brainstorm more tomorrow.

I nominate myself and Ank

I'm ok nominating myself and math too.

both works I think

I will openly claim that i will vote FA tonight then.
Better make sure we split the votes before night time otherwise we may end up with like 20 votes on FA and 1 vote on ank then FA dies or some shenanigans

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a--a-- -o---- ----- -a----a--

Whatever shit this is fucking stop it.

It’s against site rules to do codes.

It's called Hangman

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al-ay- -oli-y lyn-- mat--lade

I solved it since like last page.

Spoiler:

always policy lynch mathblade

What are you doing cupcake

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You know.
I keep forgetting that Titus was the CW to Numbers.
Not sure if that means anything tho.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean Ank switched votes after I said this:

Well numbers is L-4, titus is L-6 i think?

Look forward to this too.

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Also i find it funny that Titus doesnt want to give superpower to a major wagon when she herself was one yesterday and now is leader.

Weeell, it may mean nothing, but something in the back on my mind tells me that those things are important, i just cant figure out they why, nor what they mean.

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My vote is on molla. LOL but with so many posts to follow in this game, it’s easy to be confused.

Yeah, I can tell, considering the post you quoted was probably directed at Gamma and not you.

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Kinda sad the mod never answered my question now.
I take it then that flips will be binary then.

[Sakura Hana]

The flips are confirmed binary, it says that somewhere in the opening post.

General FAQ

Do all players start out as Vanilla?

Every player starts out as either an Aspiring Hero or an Aspiring Villain. Their Role PM's have been provided to you.

Yeah see "starts out as Aspiring Hero or an Aspiring Villain" led me to think that they start like that but wont end as such, so I thought maybe I had found something interesting, but I guess I was wrong.

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I was asking if someone that had at least one super power would flip something other than Aspiring Hero/Villain.
But mod never replied, and if that's the truth then we would eventually see it i dont see any reason to refuse to answer other than my thinking was wrong and the flips are binary.

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Man this is more annoying than partial flips.
it's like partial flips of partial flips.

Well at least that means that FA is 100% trustable.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Drixx this will do I guess?

can someone break down why zMuff is voting Mylo? sorry to be tunnelled but yikes

Here:

Vote: mylo

doubt there's enough support for drixx with derp squad defending him

actually, i will say that anyone who likes interaction analysis should be able to tell that there is most likely at least one (maybe only one) scum between mylo/rando. his thoughts about lurkers (primarily mylo/rando) were too deliberate for him to be calling out town players

i don't really feel like going into any depth on this and i really dont care if anyone disagrees but 934, 1099 and the placements in 1387 are a good start for anyone interested in thinking about that (1099 in particular, the other two posts are mostly complementary)

and if you think mathblade is town, well then draw the obvious conclusion

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Interactions with Numbers Nancy, the post links are from Numbers

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Unsure on that, im just telling Nancy where muffin drew his conclusions from.

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I actually like that reasoning tbh
VOTE: Mylo

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Oh yeah, reinterating that im voting FA tonight, i think everyone should do the same and say who they're voting so we dont end up with like 20 votes on FA and 1 vote on the other person and then FA dies to some shenanignas.

[Sakura Hana]

I dont trust Math's ability to get accurate reads, i rather have Ank as the other option.

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wtf? Aren’t our reads similar

Yours and mine or yours and ank's

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Or that he bused Numbers when he didnt need to?
Nah that's not muffin's style as scum i think.

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zMuffin as scum I feel would want a game with little effort so he could coast

Nah, muffin scum is the type of player who would be MORE active if he's scum if anything.

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Technically tho it's both true that 1) I havent played with muffin in a long while (except for Minuet's trio but he was town there) and 2) That back when we played he fooled me several times (and most of the playerlists too). I have high respect for him both as a scumhunter as town and as a scum player when scum.

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Someone slap me... i think katsuki posted content. I need to know if im not dreaming.