Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

brassherald · Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:24 pm

Several Copies of the Declaration of Independence were made and signed, not just the one sent to King George.

Votecount 2.0

Not Voting (12): Mathdino, Nauci, Irrelephant11, skitter30, Momrangal, Shoshin, Bernie Sanders, Not_Mafia, the worst, Gustavo, EPB, Keyser Soze

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-07-15 20:30:00)

Mod NotesMomrangal and Nauci are VLA until July 9 and July 6, respectively
Gustavo is also VLA

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:25 pm

Lol

Math, who’s scum?

skitter30 · Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:32 pm

In post 1622, brassherald wrote:Gamma Emerald has been lynched he was Ulysses Simpson Grant, Vanilla Townie

if only someone had spent a week shouting that this was going to be a town lynch ...

bernie, your progression from 'the wagon comp is bad and i see no scum motivation from gamma' to hammering him was gross and you have lost your townread

i'm now down to like ~3 townreads: shoshin, gustavo (provisionally because of stungun and because i think he actually believes what he's saying even tho he's wrong about everything), and nauci (because i actually see some town motivation from her; it's not a strong townread, more like there has to be town somewhere)

i'm going to start here i think

VOTE: the worst

and i am very happy to wagon mom too.

i still note that there was an *insane* amount of resistance to mom yesterday and now i'm actually proven right about the gamestate/counterwagon thing so you can't all argue something stupid like that she was scum!gamma's counterwagon

skitter30 · Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:33 pm

also i'm wondering where that nk went but it prob oughtn't be claimed at this time

Shoshin · Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:41 pm

VOTE: Key

Shoshin · Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:42 pm

I haven't reread yet so that might change.

skitter30 · Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:47 pm

also there's almost for sure scum on the gamma wagon

Shoshin · Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:50 pm

In post 1627, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1622, brassherald wrote:Gamma Emerald has been lynched he was Ulysses Simpson Grant, Vanilla Townie

if only someone had spent a week shouting that this was going to be a town lynch ...

bernie, your progression from 'the wagon comp is bad and i see no scum motivation from gamma' to hammering him was gross and you have lost your townread

i'm now down to like ~3 townreads: shoshin, gustavo (provisionally because of stungun and because i think he actually believes what he's saying even tho he's wrong about everything), and nauci (because i actually see some town motivation from her; it's not a strong townread, more like there has to be town somewhere)

i'm going to start here i think

VOTE: the worst

and i am very happy to wagon mom too.

i still note that there was an *insane* amount of resistance to mom yesterday and now i'm actually proven right about the gamestate/counterwagon thing so you can't all argue something stupid like that she was scum!gamma's counterwagon

This is a terrible post.

skitter30 · Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:51 pm

it means that i'm annoyed that nobody listened to me yesterday

Shoshin · Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:52 pm

Why shouldn't we interpret that as coming from an informed perspective?

Shoshin · Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:53 pm

Why are you voting the worst when the focus of your reasoning points to Mom and Bernie?

skitter30 · Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:54 pm

becaues if i'm scum i had no reason to pick a fight against a mislynch

i'm just good at reading these sorts of gamestates (i literally think i was wrong about this sort of thing *once* and it was because all three scum were lurkers which threw me off) and i hate it when people don't listen to me and i'm right

skitter30 · Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:57 pm

because he knows i'm good at this and he ignored me talking about the gamma thing (and he thought it had a good composition ???) and when he's town he actually listens to what i have to say and anti-mindmelding is a big warning sign

and people were semi-willing to wagon him yesterday but i literally couldn't make the mom thing a thing despite my best efforts so i see no reason why that would change today; if someone else starts a mom thing i'll join it happily

bernie went from town -> nullread and isn't like an active scumread atm and he isn't my optimal lynch right now

Nauci · Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:57 pm

In post 1627, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1622, brassherald wrote:Gamma Emerald has been lynched he was Ulysses Simpson Grant, Vanilla Townie

if only someone had spent a week shouting that this was going to be a town lynch ...

bernie, your progression from 'the wagon comp is bad and i see no scum motivation from gamma' to hammering him was gross and you have lost your townread

i'm now down to like ~3 townreads: shoshin, gustavo (provisionally because of stungun and because i think he actually believes what he's saying even tho he's wrong about everything), and nauci (because i actually see some town motivation from her; it's not a strong townread, more like there has to be town somewhere)

i'm going to start here i think

VOTE: the worst

and i am very happy to wagon mom too.

i still note that there was an *insane* amount of resistance to mom yesterday and now i'm actually proven right about the gamestate/counterwagon thing so you can't all argue something stupid like that she was scum!gamma's counterwagon

Weirdly enough, I read that progression as more town motivated because I couldn't see why he would wait until the last last last minute to pull out an incriminating meta dive, especially when Keyser had just made the momrangal wagon also viable. Unless mom-bernie actually is s/s which would seem weird too.

Anyway, loose groupings:

Good little boys and girls:

Skitter, Keyser, Bernie Sanders, Gustavo

Sigh, I Don't Have Time So I'll Be Up Until 5 AM Reading ISOs Because What the Fuck Is Happening Here:

Shoshin, Irrelephant, Errantparabola

Shitlist:

Momrangal, Not_Mafia, Mathdino, The Worst

Let's start with the fact that VOTE: Mathdino you jerk come in here and actually post the catch up you promised several times

Side note:

Irrelephant and I did a No Kill night 1 in Newbie 1863 and it tricked the town into thinking that there was a doctor or that the jailer successfully targeted scum night 1 (...which led to lynching the IC) so I have every paranoid thought about the night no kill regardless of the night extension shenanigans.

skitter30 · Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:00 pm

In post 1462, Mathdino wrote:is irrelephant actually ranmaru? because i was reading him under the assumption that he was

but he keeps posting onsite all like "wow i really love this new site!"

ranmaru literally said in my discord he was irrelephant wtf

this was literally his last post on site

voting him won't make him post things if he isn't here to see that you voted him

if he doesn't do things soonish i'd be cool with a replacement tho (

@brass?

)

Shoshin · Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:01 pm

In post 1638, Nauci wrote:Skitter, Keyser, Bernie Sanders, Gustavo

Can you explain these reads?

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:11 pm

In post 1638, Nauci wrote:Irrelephant and I did a No Kill night 1 in Newbie 1863 and it tricked the town into thinking that there was a doctor or that the jailer successfully targeted scum night 1 (...which led to lynching the IC) so I have every paranoid thought about the night no kill regardless of the night extension shenanigans.

In post 1626, Irrelephant11 wrote:Lol

Shoshin · Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:11 pm

Hey Irrelephant, who is the scum between Key and Skitter?

skitter30 · Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:13 pm

how on earth have you come to the conclusion that there is one scum in {me/key}?

Nauci · Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:16 pm

Speaking of which, Keyser's vote wasn't reflected in the final vote counter.

I just finished updating mine. I messed up a thing and the first 3 votes weren't showing up but it's fixed now.

UNOFFICIAL Votecount Record DAY 1

Spoiler: final vote count day 1

VOTE RECORD BY PLAYER DAY 1

Spoiler: final votes by player day 1

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:16 pm

Interesting. Probably still Keyser? I was holding off on vca and ISOs until there was another flip (/I also could have died and it would have been for naught) so lemme go glance at the two of them

Why not both?
Why not neither?

Also, results to come later gotta go for a bit

Nauci · Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:17 pm

In post 1641, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1638, Nauci wrote:Irrelephant and I did a No Kill night 1 in Newbie 1863 and it tricked the town into thinking that there was a doctor or that the jailer successfully targeted scum night 1 (...which led to lynching the IC) so I have every paranoid thought about the night no kill regardless of the night extension shenanigans.

In post 1626, Irrelephant11 wrote:Lol

Funny enough I'm WIFOMing and think this makes you less likely to have been scum who pulled this because I'd immediately post that.

Just... scum who tried to kill someone unsuccessfully if you're scum.

Shoshin · Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:18 pm

In post 1645, Irrelephant11 wrote:Why not both?
Why not neither?

Could be both. Could be neither. But I'm curious who you'd choose between them.

Nauci · Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:24 pm

In post 1640, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1638, Nauci wrote:Skitter, Keyser, Bernie Sanders, Gustavo
Can you explain these reads?

In tl;dr form yes I have 4 minutes before my ride home shows up and then 20 hours of homework to do in 12 hours.

I have grokked almost all of Skitter's posts so hard that it feels like my own smurf account. I understand just about every thought and reaction to what she sees from her POV this game so if she's scum then fuck me it's gg.

I generally like Keyser's POV and thought processes and observations as well.

Bernie I've ISOed and just not found anything that says scum to me (plus the slightly WIFOM note from above).

Gustavo because I hard town read StunGun day 1, even though I totally disagree with most of his posts they read as kinda genuine town stubborness.

Can you explain what you meant by refusing to post justifications (about gamma potential partners) day 1? Is it that justify and explain mean different things to you?

Shoshin · Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:26 pm

In post 1648, Nauci wrote:Can you explain what you meant by refusing to post justifications (about gamma potential partners) day 1? Is it that justify and explain mean different things to you?

Yes and yes.