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Post #178 (isolation #0) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:16 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
So I have been watching a playthrough of this and have some thoughts.
Spoiler: Thoughts on Case 1 up to the end of the investigation
WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE HEEEEEER. When the first death happened I legit experienced complete despair. I also saw everyone accusing Makoto coming from a mile away. But based on the clues so far I'm thinking Leon is the killer and if so holy shit I predicted him doing something to Sayaka when I saw what he wanted with his life in the first conversation with him. I saw that he wanted band members and went "oh shit he's going to ask Sayaka, she'll resist and he'll get upset and attack her". HOLY HELL. btw my suspicions initially fell on Toko because she mentioned disliking blood but had little to no reaction to Junko's death as far as I could tell.
Edit: HOO BOY MORE STUFF TO TALK ABOUT.
Spoiler: Case 1 Trial
wooooow this one does a lot to mess with your emotions. I love how they're using the "self-defense" card here but not just using it as a full excuse. Leon took advantage of the situation and got executed for it, though that death must have SUCKED. Also the fact that Sayaka just coldly betrays you. Makes you wonder how much of what she had said was real. I like how they're doing the post case revelation thing Ace Attorney does where you use a piece of evidence used in the trial to find out something about the case after the killer is found. And I love how they used it, actual redeeming Sayaka a little after what she had done. And I saw the contents of her video coming, but I feel like for her she had no belief she could do anything about it, the video seemed to imply her group had already broken up, and that was her biggest fear. Interesting that Kyoko is the one who comes to your side throughout the case, she seemed so aloof but now I'm really hoping we get to know more about her. inb4 she dies before we learn anything. Over just wow, what a way to kick the game off
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Post #181 (isolation #1) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:28 pm
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Case 2
Game does not disappoint, though the victim was kinda predictable, they yet again gave a lot of development to the victim. Though I do love the dynamic of the secrets and what happened with them. I didn't see the twist of Chihiro being a boy coming, and the twist of why Mondo commited his crime was pretty good too. I noticed Mondo's slip of dude but it actually meant nothing to me until it was pointed out. I get the feeling Kyoko's Ultimate name will have something to do with her deductive skills. The bonding of Mondo and Taka was great too, and I loved how Taka was the guy you had to do the bullet time on.
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Post #182 (isolation #2) » Wed May 16, 2018 7:34 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
So I haven't found anything really worth note until now (just finished watching case 1 of SDR2)
Spoiler: Update
WHAT THE FUCK NAGITO I TRUSTED YOU
Let's take it from the top. Great cast overall but some people fell flat. The Monobeasts and the giant shpere are big wtfs for me, also I think it could be true Usami wiped everyone's memories, but there's probably a good reason if so. For the case itself: well RIP Nicer Togami. I guess it makes sense it was him, he was posturing for it all the way to the end. The new parts of the trial are interesting. Agree spots are cool, the Rebuttal Showdown is also a nice shake-up, don't like the new form of Hangman's Gambit, the reformatting of Climax Inference seems harder, and PTAs are better that BTBs imo. Now onto the actual plot: I thought Nagito was one of the more sane people but NOPE HE'S OFF HIS ROCKER. I was thinking he'd be a survivor but now that he's dione that I'm not so sure. As for Teruteru I think the rationalization of his actions sorta ruins case 1 of the first game retroactively since Leon didn't get a rationale. I was also kinda thinking something would happen with Teruteru to make him more interesting since his character seemed flat, but not this.
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Post #185 (isolation #3) » Thu May 17, 2018 6:57 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Oh-kaaaaay
Spoiler: Case 2: up to the completion of Twilight Syndrome Murder Case
The clues are just pouring in right now. My current hunch is that it's Pekoyama as the water bottles seem to indicate she had to wash the blood off herself, which is further corroborated by the non-functioning shower. I also think Nagito is an accomplice, as there very little way the killer could have escaped using the window (I'm running with that for now) without some help, and Nagito is the only one I could see working as an accomplice because of the cold open for chapter 2. Speaking of earlier things let's talk about those ruins. I did some google translating and the word on the door (future) is also on the hotel (mirai). This interests me because I've seen mention of that word somewhere else. I actually saw the physical release trailer for the Future arc of the anime, which mentions a Future Foundation. Could that be why the word future appears on that door? Anyway, back to the case itself. I also find Sonia suspicious a little, plus given the appearance of Fuyuhiko's last name twice I have to conclude that the "sister" spoken of was his, and with him receiviing the prize I wonder how he is involved in the case. And I forget, who is Sato?
And a final question: will this have any relevance to the Despair arc? I've seen enough screenshots to know it's about the class Hajime is in, and given that the TSMC is about their sachool life it could be relevant.
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Post #186 (isolation #4) » Thu May 17, 2018 7:49 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
EVEN MORE
Spoiler: Case 2 Before the Trial
So we're taking a similar angle to the second case of the first game: a serial killer is involved. This makes things interesting because it could be that Sonia, knowing what she does, could have done it as a copycat thing. In addition there's implications of Sayonji but it's too obvious, she's going to be our first suspect most likely but not the last. Fuyihiko seems suspicious but does not look like the killer. What I'm thinking is Sparkling Justice/Sonia killed Mahiru thinking she was responsible for the events depicted in the game. Given the "I can never forgive you" and the thing about Sparkling Justice killing criminals I think that's how it is.
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Post #190 (isolation #5) » Sat May 19, 2018 5:43 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Meant to post this yesterday
Spoiler: Trial 2 thoughts
WHAT COUNTER INCREASES BY 100
So Fuyihiko and Peko were lovers? Wow. I thought Fuyihiko was obstructing justice or something with his objections but he really just didn't want Peko to die. Logic Dives are weird but cool. And of course you'd face Peko in a Rebuttal Showdown. The Sparkling Justice thing was an interesting twist that echoed the first game but was taken in its own direction. I was hoping at the end they'd reference the accomplice rule as a reason to not execute Fuyihiko but they did it different which left me disappointed.
Also Kokichi Oma (the scummer) told me I was like Fuyihiko and I don't see the resemblance.
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Post #191 (isolation #6) » Sat May 19, 2018 7:29 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Ka-WHAAAAAT?
Spoiler: Chapter 3: Body Discovery
This chapter is just a frenzy of events. Starting at the beginning, we have the memorial from Hiyoko, the third island investigation which turned up thew first actual detail about The Tragedy in 1 and a half games, Fuyuhiko's condition going from bad to good to bad again to good again, Akana attacking the Monokuma Sakura-style and Monokuma striking back, which injures Nekomaru, the Despair Disease which has me totally confused, and Hajime's weird dream which has to be a memory, sorta like Makoto's dream where he's saying "I realize my job is to stay here" in the first game. And it all culminates in this double-murder it seems. WHAT IS GOING OOOOON?
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Post #192 (isolation #7) » Sat May 19, 2018 8:11 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Partway Through the Third investigation...
I can already tell Hiyoko was the first victim. They are making a huge point about the order and the heating seems to have been used to disguise that fact.
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Post #193 (isolation #8) » Sun May 20, 2018 7:25 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
A bit of a timeskip but:
Spoiler: 3rd Trial: a realization
I think Ibuki's actions were a result of her Gullible disease. The movie states Monokuma suggested Monomi kill herself. I think that was a clue or the like.
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Post #194 (isolation #9) » Sun May 20, 2018 8:36 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER
WHEN IT ALL FALLS APART
Spoiler: THE END OF CASE 3
KA-WHAAAAAAAT? I think I understand what's going on but I'm also completely left in the dust. I figured Mikan became afflicted with the despair disease but it transformed her into, gh- THE ULTIMATE DESPAIR?!?!?!? WHY IS SHE LIKE JUNKO? And World Ender is the Future Foundation huh? I think that this all is coming together to paint a picture that looks one way, but there is another truth. I think this group is actually the good guys, the side of hope, and Monokuma is trying to destroy this hope. GAH, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH I DON'T KNOOOOOOOOW!!!!
Edit 1: And apparently Mikan only became this way after coming to Hope's Peak I guess, since it's because of her stolen memories.
Edit 2: Now Nekomaru is a robot huh? Cool! btw him mentioning coming out of the rivers of hell reminds me of Godot's line from Trials and Tribulations about coming out of the depths of hell.
FINAL EDIT, HOURS LATER: So what was Mikan's actual motive...?
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Post #195 (isolation #10) » Mon May 21, 2018 2:40 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
AAAAAAAAAAAAH
Spoiler: Chapter 4: After the rollercoaster
It seems the jig is up with our dear friend Byakuya. The Impossible Heir's secret shall be revealed! (Impossible Heir is a reference to Clara the Impossible Girl from Doctor Who)
Spoiler: Inside Grape Tower
WHY IS THERE A STATUE OF SAKURA
Spoiler: THE BODY
Well the music is different for the reveal
But poor Nekomaru, he was one of my favorites
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Post #196 (isolation #11) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:58 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Case 4: Boy's Side
WE GET TO PLAY AS NAGITO
Also there's a lot of things I see being important, like the pillar as a time judgement, and the seeming block-off of the strawberry side
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Post #199 (isolation #13) » Tue May 22, 2018 7:40 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Investigation 4 END
Nagito you're a fucking ass. Just because Hajime isn't some super person doesn't mean you get to treat him like dirt, you self-righteous prick.
Also I feel like the elevator thing will change something about which side the crime took place on. I can see where certain pieces fit but not the whole puzzle. Most of the case have been this way tbh, giving you enough to go on but still leaving the greater picture unclear.
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Post #202 (isolation #14) » Wed May 23, 2018 6:11 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Trial 4
I feel like keeping this brief. The logical conclusions here kinda felt like big leaps here. Gundham Tanaka is a badass. His execution was absolutely precious, thank goodness the hamsters were spared.
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Post #203 (isolation #15) » Wed May 23, 2018 7:47 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Chapter 5 progress
Currently at the point where Nagito has the bombs set up and everyone is searching for them. Nagito is seriously fucked up but at least he's not being a bully I guess?????
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Post #205 (isolation #17) » Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: CHAPTER 5 THE BODY
HOLY SHIT THEY KILLED NAGITO
BUT WHO DID IT? They're definitely going to lean towards Sonia at first, is that really the true answer though?
Spoiler: And another thing!
So yet again we have parallels between this case and case 5 of the first game: the burning of something and the unknown cause of death.
Also the music is too awesome
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Post #208 (isolation #19) » Thu May 24, 2018 7:44 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Midway through the trial: See the video in the spoiler for what should be in this heading
ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE WE GOING WITH WHOEVER THREW THE CANISTER WITH THE POISON IS THE TRUE BLACKENED? FUCK YOU NAGITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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Post #210 (isolation #21) » Thu May 24, 2018 8:29 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: HOLY SHIT
I just realized the final parallel between this case and case 5 in the first game:
THE ENTIRE TRIAL IS DESIGNED TO DESTROY MONOKUMA'S ENEMY.
DR1: It was a fake murder designed where Kyoko would be framed and executed, thus keeping the secret's of the school hidden.
DR2: Through Monokuma's manipulation, everyone though of the Future Foundation as the bad guy. But it was also Monokuma's enemy, and by tricking Nagito into tricking the traitor to kill him, Monokuma pulled the strings so the traitor would be killed.
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Post #212 (isolation #22) » Thu May 24, 2018 8:33 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: kehehe
Oh I think I just came across the exact thing you might be talking about
And it might not have been so clear if the guy I'm watching didn't max out the friendship with Chiaki
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Post #214 (isolation #24) » Fri May 25, 2018 7:36 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: On the fourth floor...
wtf Hiyoko was older HUH? Can they do de-aging along with memory wiping?
Spoiler: Hmmmm...
Could this all be a simulation?
Spoiler: Say what?
Well hello Alter Ego?
Spoiler: OKAY
This is all a simulation: does that mean everyone else is alive???
Spoiler: okay what
Monokuma opened his announcement the same way he announced the trial was going to begin in case 2 of the first game (I know this because while I've been binging this I've also been watching a playthrough of the first game that's in progress and at the second trial)
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Post #215 (isolation #25) » Fri May 25, 2018 8:44 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: OHOHOHOHO
I just realized what the despair disease was: it was some sort of restoration of the remnants to how they were in reality. That's why Everyone was acting so freaky, why Mikan was an Ultimate Despair, why Akane seemed so broken!
Spoiler: Just wow
GUESS WHO'S BACK
BACK AGAIN
JUNKO'S BACK
TELL A FRIEND
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Post #218 (isolation #28) » Sat May 26, 2018 3:27 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: WOW
Usami's comeback is amazing.
Also I had a thought: what if, in Chapter 5, it wasn't that Monokuma wanted to destroy the Future Foundation's foothold, but that Chiaki chose to sacrifice herself because of what was seen in the Neo World Program?
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Post #220 (isolation #30) » Sat May 26, 2018 3:49 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
btw I'm prolly gonna do a ranking of all the characters from both games. DR2 will be first since it's fresh, and DR1 will follow when the ongoing playthrough I'm watching finishes and all of that is fresh.
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Post #221 (isolation #31) » Sat May 26, 2018 4:44 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Some final questions
What actually caused the glitches?
Why did Mikan kill as a result of being returned to her true self?
Thought question: what do you make of Chiaki's fate? Was it a fluke, something Monokuma hoped to orchestrate, or Chiaki sacrificing herself to help the program reach its goal?
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What actually caused the glitches?
Why did Mikan kill as a result of being returned to her true self?
Thought question: what do you make of Chiaki's fate? Was it a fluke, something Monokuma hoped to orchestrate, or Chiaki sacrificing herself to help the program reach its goal?
Mikan returned to her dispar state by remebering who they were before they entered the program and had their mind wiped.
Spoiler:
I was aware of that, I'm wondering why Mikan decided to kill someone?
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ibuki's eyebrows are pink so does that mean her hair is naturally pink and she dyed it black, or did she dye them pink and her hair is black?
This post prompted me to check some stuff out and holy cow is there a massive crowd of Danganronpa accounts. DR2 has made me ponder whether I really feel like Taka is the strongest match for my personality. An fyi that there's someone who is DANGEROUSLY close to my personality in DR2. Guess if you like but unless I'm feeling really generous I'm not answering, I want to maybe make it a surprise if I do select that character for my
inevitable
Danganronpa alt (because I know I'm gonna end up making one just to revel with everyone else).
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Post #230 (isolation #37) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:03 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: realization
Case 4 of the first game and case 5 of the second are actually rather similar. They're both suicides (Case 2-5 not quite but essentially) and someone is conspiring to get everyone killed (Hina and Nagito).
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Post #235 (isolation #42) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:46 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Up to the intro cinematic
Wtf is with those kids? Also the intro cinematic is cool, music seems to start with the way the first game's track sound but transitions to one more like the second game's
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Post #252 (isolation #58) » Tue May 29, 2018 7:32 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Spoiler: Wow
So they're just gonna come out with the fact that it's Asahina's brother? Okay. I guess what we're going to be seeing as we progress is relatives of the Hope's Peak survivors will be showing up?
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