SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Vaxkiller]

Why would you ask Pun to shoot you, did you think he was scum? I dont understand the logic here.

Also I have no idea what the fuck you want with this pun scenario. How in the world does not shooting pun make me scum? Have you thought out your argument all the way other than "there cant be 2 vigs"?

I'm assuming you are thinking that one of us is scum. IF I WERE the one that is scum then wouldn't I want to fucking shoot PUN????? Unless you think we are both scum.
I don't get this.

[Errantparabola]

Prodding Chara

Votecount 3.2

Commander Shepard

(2): Fire Assassin, ManWithNoName

Shoshin

(2): Punreader, the worst

Fire Assassin

(1): Espeonage

Vaxkiller

(1): Commander Shepard

Not Voting

(6): MariaR, Chara, DeasVail, Shoshin, Vaxkiller, Dunnstral

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-21 13:08:00)

[Commander Shepard]

Why would you ask Pun to shoot you, did you think he was scum? I dont understand the logic here.

Also I have no idea what the fuck you want with this pun scenario. How in the world does not shooting pun make me scum? Have you thought out your argument all the way other than "there cant be 2 vigs"?

I'm assuming you are thinking that one of us is scum. IF I WERE the one that is scum then wouldn't I want to fucking shoot PUN????? Unless you think we are both scum.
I don't get this.

Asked and answered.

To the contrary, I wanted to prove that Commander Shepard wasn’t scum and that Shoshin is. Me v Shoshin would have had the issue of being really loud or then we waste time likely mislynching me before lynching Shoshin. My death would have confirmed Punreader not group scum (as I believed) and it would have shown Shoshin scum.

1) Because yes two cops two vigs and investigatives all town (if you are town which I doubt) would be impossible.

2) If you were scum you just simply aren’t a vig. Boom.

[Commander Shepard]

Why would you ask Pun to shoot you, did you think he was scum? I dont understand the logic here.

Also I have no idea what the fuck you want with this pun scenario. How in the world does not shooting pun make me scum? Have you thought out your argument all the way other than "there cant be 2 vigs"?

I'm assuming you are thinking that one of us is scum. IF I WERE the one that is scum then wouldn't I want to fucking shoot PUN????? Unless you think we are both scum.
I don't get this.

Asked and answered.

To the contrary, I wanted to prove that Punreader wasn’t scum and that Shoshin is. Me v Shoshin would have had the issue of being really loud or then we waste time likely mislynching me before lynching Shoshin. My death would have confirmed Punreader not group scum (as I believed) and it would have shown Shoshin scum.

1) Because yes two cops two vigs and investigatives all town (if you are town which I doubt) would be impossible.

2) If you were scum you just simply aren’t a vig. Boom.

Yay for brain farts. Even commanders aren’t immune

[MariaR]

Vax is my cop inno Shepard you vote me before you vote my inno.

[Commander Shepard]

I mean I could but it’s more likely Vax is GF or you’re both scum together.

I’d rather vote my “guilty” as I don’t see two protectives in this setup so my “guilty” overrides your inno.

[Commander Shepard]

Or you’re just scum claiming an inno.

[Commander Shepard]

Pretty much yes you have a cop inno that you say was on Vax but redirection, bus driver, god father

These are all potential things that can impact what you are saying.

However I was shot by punreader truth.
I was claimed to have been shot by Vax.

So either you believe that Vax is a vig and I was protected twice, or you believe that something fucked with your check if real.

The latter is much more reasonable.

[Commander Shepard]

Furthermore the fact you aren’t dead raises questions as if two protectives exist surely a strongman exists which begs the question why aren’t you dead?

Ergo Vax is more likely scum with you.

[Commander Shepard]

So in order for your “innocent” to stand you must explain how these events unfolded.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Commander Shepard

Fakeclaimed a role for their bulletproof but got caught out when a second vig claimed

Would have been the lynch today without the claim

[Commander Shepard]

VOTE: Commander Shepard

Fakeclaimed a role for their bulletproof but got caught out when a second vig claimed

Would have been the lynch today without the claim

Lol let’s assume that’s the case. It’s wrong but let’s assume that.

That takes care of one of two kills.

What happened to the second kill?

[Commander Shepard]

That means I still have to be protected by someone regardless of my claim’s status (hint: It’s true)

[Shoshin]

VOTE: Commander Shepard

[DeasVail]

I've got to be frank. I'm struggling here. How I usually try and approach games is just not working here given the sheer number of role-related interactions and it's almost a situation of too much information for me to parse.

Based on impressions I /think/ that I would vote Shepard before I vote Shoshin but I'm mildly bothered by Chara/The Worst not being very present and I have to think some more on everything that has happened.

[the worst]

sorry DV. I'm waiting for someone to break this night action shenaniganry down for us simpler folk.

[the worst]

I kinda feel like 3 or so people think they have a guilty atm but it's kinda turning into white noise in my head so I just want to kill scum

[Chara]

please don't replace me, i forgot i existed for a while there.
looks like today will be spent going through night actions.

[Chara]

I’d rather vote my “guilty” as I don’t see two protectives in this setup so my “guilty” overrides your inno.

i'm going to keep bringing up that time with the miller, godfather, and no cop before you realize that your incomplete setup spec does not constitute any kind of guilty.

[Chara]

Pretty much yes you have a cop inno that you say was on Vax but redirection, bus driver, god father

These are all potential things that can impact what you are saying.

However I was shot by punreader truth.
I was claimed to have been shot by Vax.

So either you believe that Vax is a vig and I was protected twice, or you believe that something fucked with your check if real.

The latter is much more reasonable.

one protect could easily account for two shots. it depends on the mod. where's the proof punreader shot you and why do you believe it?
obviously, you could also be lying, but as we're talking about your reasoning here, that point is irrelevant for the moment.

[DeasVail]

sorry DV. I'm waiting for someone to break this night action shenaniganry down for us simpler folk.

I kinda feel like 3 or so people think they have a guilty atm but it's kinda turning into white noise in my head so I just want to kill scum

I completely relate, don't worry, and that's part of the problem. Paranoia is running rampant in my head right now and I'm having to question everything that I've previously thought.

[Commander Shepard]

Pretty much yes you have a cop inno that you say was on Vax but redirection, bus driver, god father

These are all potential things that can impact what you are saying.

However I was shot by punreader truth.
I was claimed to have been shot by Vax.

So either you believe that Vax is a vig and I was protected twice, or you believe that something fucked with your check if real.

The latter is much more reasonable.

one protect could easily account for two shots. it depends on the mod. where's the proof punreader shot you and why do you believe it?
obviously, you could also be lying, but as we're talking about your reasoning here, that point is irrelevant for the moment.

Punreader is an confirmed vig << fact
Taly died today after likely being shot N1 << fact
There was one other kill << fact
Punreader claimed to have shot me before day flip ended << fact
There are no other kills to indicate they shot elsewhere << fact
So the only way they didn’t shoot me is if they held their shot
And one protect never does two shots. Never have seen it.

[Commander Shepard]

For reasons so elaborated Punreader also who is confirmed not group scum based on not dying as my explosion isn’t a bullet means that they are not group scum. Therefore they have no reason to lie about shooting me.

If they are SK they have no reason to withhold their shot

If they are town then they wouldn’t lie to have confirmed they shot me.

Therefore Vaxkiller is a confirmed liar and is lying to mislynch my ass.

[Commander Shepard]

Between that and two cop two vigs and two protects is bullshit

Even if you go with popular opinion (which imo is wrong) which is now one cop two vigs two protects that is still waaaay too much for a mini theme that just doesn’t make sense. Which is why Vax MariaR Shoshin does.

[Vaxkiller]

Did you ever answer how/why you have a hood with Pun?