Micro 810: lovers mafia BTMPWTMAATSGATAPSIAWT [game over]

[RadiantCowbells]

Hi I'm town

Now I gotta tryhard

[RadiantCowbells]

I think pine is scum

[RadiantCowbells]

Like Pines redflavor push is straight garbage, yet I'm actually not 100% convinced it's out of pines town range to be that bad? But this is the kind of garbage trumped up push that he makes constantly as scum so yeah

[RadiantCowbells]

Mmm.

[RadiantCowbells]

Where did redflavor quote from a private thread or make stuff up

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh I only now figures out that the day started before xyzzy said it did, I hadn't read anything prior.

[RadiantCowbells]

Mmmmmmmmmmmm

[RadiantCowbells]

NM what are your actual thoughts on the game

[RadiantCowbells]

But why and why aren't you standing between rf/pine at all

[RadiantCowbells]

Cuz voting Nico and not pushing it in the current gamestate means that one of those two lynches is happening

That's pretty F-tier nm and I expect better even from you

[RadiantCowbells]

?

I mean ill just Lynch you if you're claiming troll reasons for reads

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh you've been pushing this for multiple day phases huh

Who says NR is ever gonna be scum? You've lynched town NR every day so far, why would anyone want to give her scum

[RadiantCowbells]

Says who

[RadiantCowbells]

Also why not me? I haven't been scum either

[RadiantCowbells]

Btw IDGAF about the main game

I'm playing to win each subgame individually

[RadiantCowbells]

welcome to lovers mafia but the mod picks who the mafia are and there's seven games and there's a points system, it's a whole thing! I would argue that all games function as art, and therefore this

is

an art project.

here's a list of players:

1. NicoRobin
   
2. Ausuka
   
3. Not_Mafia
   
4. RedFlavor
   
5. RadiantCowbells
   (replacing Mathdino)
   
   
6. Pine

the following players are still alive in the current game:

Spoiler: living players

1. NicoRobin
   
2. Ausuka
   
3. Not_Mafia
   
4. RedFlavor
   
5. RadiantCowbells
   
6. Pine

the following players died during a current or previous game:

Spoiler: dead players

1. NicoRobin, game 1
   
2. Not_Mafia, game 1
   
3. Not_Mafia, game 2
   
4. NicoRobin, game 2
   
5. NicoRobin, game 3
   
6. Mathdino, game 3

important game events:

1. game 1:
   
   
2. day 1 start/votecount 1.01
   
3. votecount 1.02
   
4. votecount 1.03
   
5. votecount 1.04
   
6. votecount 1.05
   
7. votecount 1.06
   
8. votecount 1.07/day 1 end/day 2 start/votecount 2.01
   
9. votecount 2.02
   
10. votecount 2.03
    
11. votecount 2.04/day 2 end
    
    game 2:
    
    
12. day 1 start/votecount 1.01
    
13. votecount 1.02
    
14. votecount 1.03/day 1 end/day 2 start/votecount 2.01
    
15. votecount 2.02
    
16. votecount 2.03
    
17. votecount 2.04
    
18. votecount 2.05/day 2 end
    
    game 3:
    
    
19. day 1 start/votecount 1.01
    
20. votecount 1.02
    
21. votecount 1.03
    
22. votecount 1.04/day 1 end/day 2 start/votecount 2.01
    
23. votecount 2.02
    
24. votecount 2.03
    
25. votecount 2.04/day 2 end
    
    game 4:
    
    
26. day 1 start/votecount 1.01
    
27. votecount 1.02
    
28. RadiantCowbells replaces Mathdino

Here's the OP

0 mention that everyone has to be scum

[RadiantCowbells]

And that's a shit rule that screws over people who roll scum late in the game and basically ensures my slot loses it's first scumgame in the last 3 games so why would that even be a thing

[RadiantCowbells]

You mean y'all mislynched her every game?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok well I wouldnt have replaced in knowing that

[RadiantCowbells]

That's also an extremely sketchy vote

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean it is you can't credibly say that anything I've done since replace in puts me above no info in terms of scum equity

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm messaging the mod about that rule and replacing out if it's in place, I read the rules carefully before I joined and my slot being town this game screws me for the rest of it

Objectively my slot is townier than before I replaced in yet you changed your vote to me because I called you out on lazy pushing nico without trying to disrupt the RF/pine 1v1

[RadiantCowbells]

There's no objectivity in mafia

When this is how you defend your push you're either scum or seriously need to reevaluate how you play the game.

If you want to go down that road I could point out that you're an objectively bad player by virtually any metric but I was trying to play mafia politely

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: NM

Let's do it boys

[RadiantCowbells]

U picked a fight, not me.

[RadiantCowbells]

There's no objectivity in mafia

Objectivity is what bad losers fall back on to rationalise their losses and blame other people

I mean at best I think it's just a dumb thing to say.

Just because bad players misuse objectivity in defense of their poor play doesn't mean objectivity doesn't exist in mafia.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah pine is one scum this game

Rf was obvtown, just wasn't sure if he was bad enough to misread that

[RadiantCowbells]

Also that push from Pine doesn't even make sense

Why would I care about that rule if I was scum this game, no one called me out on it, and it wasn't going to matter at all for the remaining games?

All I have to do is get my mislynches and I'm free of.the curse and have increased odds in future games by just voting Nico

Whereas as town I have reason to be concerned because I'm dealing with this pressure for the remainder of the game instead of just one game if I was scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: pine

I'm replacing out after this iteration probably but I'll take an easy win off of pine.

[RadiantCowbells]

And 'scum caught for the wrong reasons' being applied to a situation where the only vote on me was based off of NM being NM is a total meme.

Pine knows that after he mislynches RF everyone is going to turn on him whereas he gets to pin my mislynch on NM and generally not take as much flak for it because mislynching me when I'm obvtown is in Vogue for 2018 MS

[RadiantCowbells]

As for partners, choice is NM setting up a mislynch after RF, NR finally having been rolled scum and Pine hard pushing a mislynch to make sure momentum doesn't go on her, or someone bussing. Never RF imo so that's only ausuka but I'm not sure how much I buy that.

[RadiantCowbells]

And to sweeten the pot on getting a pine Lynch, since the game rules do not forbid it, I'm volunteering to selfvote if Pine doesn't flip scum. Instant, clean resolution to this iteration. Either I'm right or I lose, just how I like it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sheep me pls yume

[RadiantCowbells]

I want to Lynch NM on principle

Not sure how great the odds are of him flipping scum

[RadiantCowbells]

If you're town he's probably scum but I don't get the opportunity to guarantee that pine loses this iteration so not quite as fun

[RadiantCowbells]

I note at no point this game have you explained why you were sheeping pine on redflavor or why you're now resistant to hammeing him. I'd almost say you were his obvious scumbuddy if I didn't think you'd ought to be a little less obvious if you were.

[RadiantCowbells]

What valid points are you referring to?

[RadiantCowbells]

What if redflavor did in fact commit a faux pas but pine is still scum?

What's the difference in your opinion between that and what we have.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't actually think rf has any motivation to deliberately twist the meaning. I do think it's plausible that in the process of paraphrasing he twisted the meaning and that pine saw it as an easy mislynch

[RadiantCowbells]

Nico just to be clear I am able to hand you the game if you're scum and I feel it serves my long term interests

And idk if you were scum with, say, Ausuka

And pine and NM were playing like garbage and I wanted to make it clear to them that would result in a town loss

If you happened to quickhammer pine I wouldn't do anything about it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have to play to my seven game wincon not my one game wincon

And I feel right now that my seven game wincon is at odds with winning this one game

[RadiantCowbells]

As long as I feel that it's for the greater good, yes.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yup

[RadiantCowbells]

Lol

[RadiantCowbells]

Lovers in league against pinecone

[RadiantCowbells]

Me and you

[RadiantCowbells]

Ty sweetie

[RadiantCowbells]

Should you have though

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll repay nicorobin in kind by giving her the win on D2 the first time I roll scum here.

[RadiantCowbells]

Tfw it's easier to get scum to vote their lover partner than it is to get NM to vote scum

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll repay nicorobin in kind by giving her the win on D2 the first time I roll scum here.

Man of my word btw. <3

[RadiantCowbells]

If I roll scum with pine I'm gonna hardbus him into next week

[RadiantCowbells]

Any way you want it bb

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Ausuka

[RadiantCowbells]

sweetheart acccording to the terms of our agreement if I'm scum this game I don't have to throw for you until day 2

you'll have to wait patiently until then.

[RadiantCowbells]

The uPick is starting when Cheeky is done with her school stuff or when Labyrinth ends, whichever comes first. I told you that was the timeline

I wish I could pm you rn

[RadiantCowbells]

The rules prohibit outside influences even if they allow metagaming so I can't try to cut the same deal as the time you thought I mod errored

I will instead just say I love you and would be perfectly happy to give you a win if I were scum, particularly in this situation <3

[RadiantCowbells]

At no point in the above have I claimed either alignment and don't try to read into it because you can't

[RadiantCowbells]

see I brought the at least 1 scum in the series rule to xyzzy and they agreed that it was a shit rule that unfairly penalized me and since I didn't know about it when the game started it wasn't being run
it's even funnier given that even if it was, I only have to be scum 1/3 of the remaining games and that's the exact same as ordinary scum odds

my immediate gut reaction is to say that nico's town for trying to get me to trust tell
i am also fairly certain that when 3/6 are going with a conftown without the scum play here is a coordinated effort for a quicklynch on me and hide behind policy rules so I want to clear redflavor

then of the remainder

i don't think that N_M ausuka actually have the balls balls to try to quicklynch me, and I generally have the viewpoint that Pine as town is better than to be voting me right now so very likely not
N_M/Pine has the issue of I don't think that this is actually a play that ausuka ever makes as town even if it generally makes sense

but for ausuka/pine everything makes sense
NM is being cancer voting me makes sense because his approach here is legitimately cancer

Pine would try to organize a team strategy here and even though it's borderline playing against wincon to go against me here we've established that he has nowhere near appropriate respect for me based off of last game and with their team knowing that NM is going to shitvote me anyway why not commit to the wagon and let NM take the fall for it. it's even sort of poetic that NM would for the fifth time be hard playing third scum member.

[RadiantCowbells]

we're always lynching ausuka or pine today, the question is which has the best equity in terms of knocking out other teams if I'm wrong on the team

[RadiantCowbells]

btw if NM refuses to vote scum we lynch him than me or v/v to ensure that his faction loses this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm deleting the contents of this post since it was apparently meant for another game~

[RadiantCowbells]

636 was meant to go in another game, sorry./

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: pine

Sure

@nico sheep me bby

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

Eh

[RadiantCowbells]

Do I think that's ever svs

[RadiantCowbells]

Well if I'm pocketing you D1 you'll still find out D2

[RadiantCowbells]

this is only mafia in the loosest sense

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: pine

it occurs to me that his play deserves a lynch if he's town anyway and that was the majority of my rationale for voting him last game and it was worked so leggo

@NR faster we get a lynch faster you get to know my a l i g n m e n t

[RadiantCowbells]

I think highest equity here is ausuka being the buddy and hoping that the distance vote would throw town off

i guess there's nothing that says its not pine NM either but regardless of either party's alignment I don't think we get that vote on here

Pine/NR maybe but we'll see if she votes I guess

[RadiantCowbells]

what's too bad is that pine didn't have a reason for voting me

[RadiantCowbells]

so I'm town, cross my heart and hope to die if I'm lying to you nico

thought it was kind of obvious based on my reaction to pine

first impulse is that if you're town redflavor/NM are probably TvS so Ausuka is guaranteed to be 1/2 of the scum unless that 'could it be nm' was distancing

[RadiantCowbells]

er

why ausuka

[RadiantCowbells]

oh I asked you to vote ausuka

[RadiantCowbells]

you should probably unvote

I don't want to lose today

[RadiantCowbells]

because if it's rf/nm then they win and it was a pairing I was seriously considering yesterday

[RadiantCowbells]

Idk like I don't like RF on this page.

Maybe it's RF/ausuka, one of them helps Lynch me the other defends me and gets towncred for it and makes sure the Lynch doesn't hit the buddy

I guess there's not really a good way to get a bead on anyone in this game it no one's playing

[RadiantCowbells]

I think NM when he rolls scum right now is just hard lurking so like maybe NM is the lockscum. Rf/NM associative isn't clearing, far from it

[RadiantCowbells]

I would bet the game on it but I wouldn't say she's literally never scum. This would be the best she's ever played as scum if she is though.

[RadiantCowbells]

Whatever I'll go for it

Worst case scenario pine gets a deserved loss

VOTE: ausuka

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't slowroll please

[RadiantCowbells]

Fuck off

Nico was scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok dude

[RadiantCowbells]

As long as I'm losing to you it's fine <3

[RadiantCowbells]

That's even better

[RadiantCowbells]

Oof

[RadiantCowbells]

"almost as good"

[RadiantCowbells]

[RadiantCowbells]

really disappointed that I didn't get scum again because the way yall are approaching this game basically ensures scum wins.

[RadiantCowbells]

everyone should forget the 7 game score, stop caring about lynching people with the top score, and play to win

you win 0 points if you lose the game and in lovers you require complete town unity to get a lynch. RF lynching for point reasons killed straight up handed us the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

ok, fair. but philosophically not a fan of the entire idea of playing to a global win condition as opposed to trying to win the individual games.

I joined because I think iterated sets like this are really good for advancing your ability to generate reads and out of game shit like the 'guilty' on me due to having not rolled scum and the pine wagon (which I think Pine was in fact obvscum but I sincerely disbelieve that he was fundamentally wagoned for his play as opposed to outguessing the mod.)

i have no enthusiasm for voting any of the people who have voted up to this point. not a fan of pine clearing me early or the way he's pushing on nr on an intellectual level but it doesn't really ping me

would appreciate NM and Ausuka coming out to play

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that what you are talking about and what I am talking about are two different things. the truth that I'm pretty sure we're both mutually agreed on is that me asking you to vote pine had little to do with long term concerns at all
our relationship out of mafia games gives me power over you and vice versa and that's not really anything to do with this game or 7 game concerns and that is part of mafia whether people like it or not

if we hadn't rolled scum together I think you know that I would have honestly claimed if we were both alive D2, but it doesn't really help my 7 game concerns unless I try to develop that into a trust tell which I wasn't going to do

it intrigues me that you haven't tried to get me to claim this game as well.

[RadiantCowbells]

there's a certain beauty to mafia in a meta, iterated sense that does not exist in individual mafia games.
individual games of mafia are trash, mafia as a metagame is where the game starts to have a sort of value
part of the reason I probably hate mafia now is because I overinvest into individual game instead of focusing on the bigger picture

[RadiantCowbells]

why are you asking ausuka specifically

[RadiantCowbells]

spicy

would go well with some tabasco sauce

[RadiantCowbells]

but does disagreeing on whether or not its NAI make pine scummy?

[RadiantCowbells]

I have no specific scumreads in the people who have posted so I'm kind of inclined to vote NM

RF is probably town, NR a few percentage points above random town
Ot

[RadiantCowbells]

oh, and

VOTE: NM

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not like enthusiastic about it for obvious reasons but I think it's the strongest bet right now

not too happy about nico wagon, pine wagon is okayish

[RadiantCowbells]

Yw btw

[RadiantCowbells]

i kinda have a bad feeling about this wagon suddenly but pine/NM definitely makes sense o

[RadiantCowbells]

why am I excluded from that list?

[RadiantCowbells]

RF/NR
RF/Ausuka
RF/Pine
NR/Ausuka
NR/Pine
Pine/Ausuka

[RadiantCowbells]

the first thing that comes to mind based on play is Pine/NR rn because

ausuka's hammer at the reminder of town point loss felt town
redflavor has generally felt towny throughout the game

but pine voted her most of D1
which he did a previous game in fairness and I honestly think he'd do it again but eh

[RadiantCowbells]

NR what are your thoughts on Ausuka now that you know that it wasn't actually a typo?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok if this does not end now I have high hopes for winning

what does this mean?

[RadiantCowbells]

Well, I am not scum, so if Ausuka and RF are town, like you say, it has to be you and Pine via PoE.

if that's the case then you'd be interested in voting pine?

[RadiantCowbells]

don't actually do it

I want to have a day phase this time around, NM lynch was intellectually lazy

I dunno

[RadiantCowbells]

THere's Ausuka/NR or Ausuka/Pine as well

[RadiantCowbells]

NR if you are scum with Pine you can actually just claim and I'll give you two both the win.

[RadiantCowbells]

No deal for any other team comps

but having everyone but NM at 3 points after his last wish would be worth the game and also prevent people from bsing over score in game 7

[RadiantCowbells]

ARE WE GIVING THE NM WHAT HE WANTED

MORE AT ELEVEN.

[RadiantCowbells]

I AM SETTING YOU TO VOTE

[RadiantCowbells]

what information?

where do your reads stand, assuming NR isn't getting the freebie?

[RadiantCowbells]

me being scum in 3/4 of your scumteams is incredibly rude

[RadiantCowbells]

I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail nonetheless. As lightning turns the legs to jelly. I ask you, to what end? Dread it, run from it... Destiny arrives all the same. And now, it's here. Or should I say... I am.

[RadiantCowbells]

So I don't agree with RF's reasoning on Pine/NR but given that I offered to give them the win I'm assuming they would have gone for it.
I do agree that the NR/Ausuka interactions are highly likely not to be scum on scum, I don't think either of them would plan that theatre out.

RF/NR
RF/Ausuka
RF/Pine
Pine/Ausuka

This would be really easy if I could exclude Pine/Ausuka because I can't and it's actually feeling like one of the more likely scum pairings as of now so

[RadiantCowbells]

like Pine's been throwing shade constantly at RF too though but he didn't vote
and I would assume that with me around he'd be less apt to actually vote his partner because he would know that I'd just lock in a 1v1

but at the same time I would expect even if I wasn't certain to feel something about an interaction being SvS and I don't feel that here

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: NIco

VOTE: Pine

Ausuka do you think Pine might be scum

this is interesting

[RadiantCowbells]

RF Ausuka interaction actually doesn't feel like SvS

[RadiantCowbells]

RF/NR
RF/Pine
Pine/Ausuka

[RadiantCowbells]

Even if I just say that I would have had some sort of gut ping on RF/PIne it doesn't give a single person I can vote to win the game so eh

[RadiantCowbells]

meh

[RadiantCowbells]

Pine/Ausuka is mostly by exclusion

RF/NR has so much pointing to it.

[RadiantCowbells]

yeah I'm feeling it

[RadiantCowbells]

NR not actually pushing me to claim
RF immediately voting Pine to make a counterwagon to NR when she gets 2 votes, also happy to jump ship to NM as long as its not NR, NR jumping there too
NR calling Ausuka's twilight play scummy before it was even confirmed that NM hadn't flipped scum
RF staying at the sidlines querying townies interest in voting townies, not even reacting to me offering to give NR/Pine the win
RF then going and crossing out a bunch of NR scumteams without looking at other scumteams at all then waffling and keeping options open on every read he has (despite a claimed hard ausuka scumread) but not giving a read on NR, sole interaction with NR feels extremely bland and meaningless

can't say that the other possibilities are literally never but this feels like the solve.

[RadiantCowbells]

if anyone has anything to say now is the time

[RadiantCowbells]

i mean, assuming you're town and pine is scum, you can't lynch pine without my vote

i would expect some sort of response to my case on you if you didn't think you could get the win without me.

[RadiantCowbells]

@RC But I have pushed you to claim.... :O

i mean you had to be prompted to do so and you didn't follow up on trying to get me to claim, so...

what are your thoughts on the stuff you're talking about in #813 rf?

[RadiantCowbells]

that's super fucking unhelpful from pine because RF if scum with NR is no longer required to come up with an excuse to end up not voting them after agreeing they've done scummy shit

[RadiantCowbells]

RF why do you just spontaneously vote the dude without trying to persuade him to unvote

Pine why bother unvoting without trying to get him to unvote?

[RadiantCowbells]

This game is such a clown fiesta

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok?

So you pointing out NR had no visible thought process was just for show then?

[RadiantCowbells]

I didn't realize I signed up for single player mafia.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also RF just casually threw a bit of shade at NR that she didn't respond to at all then proceeded to vote someone else and stop talking about her.
he already cleared those two of being a possibility, if he thought that NR might be scum he would never have speedvoted when he did.

that's just scum trying to distance and taking advantage of pine's vote to not actually have to interact with his partner. no response to it when called out on it either.

VOTE: Redflavor

[RadiantCowbells]

RF is always scum, the only possibility of me being wrong is if it's actually pine the partner and they overblew the distancing when I called them out for not voting each other

[RadiantCowbells]

Well, I am not scum, so if Ausuka and RF are town, like you say, it has to be you and Pine via PoE.

Why do you assume who rc says is town even that makes him mafia? Do you reqlly think me and ausuka are town?

What is pushing a claim

@RC But I have pushed you to claim.... :O

i mean you had to be prompted to do so and you didn't follow up on trying to get me to claim, so...

what are your thoughts on the stuff you're talking about in #813 rf?

Its kinda weird becausw nico has nno thoughts about the game, just copoed what you say and said you are mafia for that

Also that vote
VOTE: Pine

Idk I just think he is mafia

this isn't rocket science.

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE: Pine
If one of you is town plz unvote

you didn't ask me to unvote when I voted, presumably because me/pine is something you could push as a thing

but when there's 2 votes and it literally has to be RC/Ausuka you start looking for unvotes

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, I was TRing everyone but NR/Pine and you agree with me that they don't make sense as a team so obviously one of my townreads was wrong
Ausuka's quickhammer to avoid a point loss is a lot more substantial a reason to townread than anything regarding your slot
the fact that neither pine nor NR have hammered when both of them have been online says that my vote's right either way since you would have been hammered if you were town.

[RadiantCowbells]

oh actually yeah you're just cornered

@town in Pine/NR: By the fact that both of you have been online and no hammer has gone down it is confirmed that either scum is (RC/Ausuka) or RedFlavor is scum.
The fact that RC/Ausuka could have just hammered Pine shows that that team is not possible and therefore RedFlavor is just confirmed scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

also the fact that you were keeping your options open but yeah

[RadiantCowbells]

ok

me and ausuka are slowrolling to troll you i admit it

[RadiantCowbells]

i mean redflavour is confirmed scum

[RadiantCowbells]

but yes hammer please

[RadiantCowbells]

but that's really strange because I thought you were his partner

was it really pine/rf pulling the same distance as last game

[RadiantCowbells]

i want to say yw for the carry btu I did derail the pine wagon so :shrug:

NM if you don't want to be lynched D1 produce content next time

[RadiantCowbells]

also voting people because of score is awful. play each game to win it individually. I've won 3/3 of my participated games because idgaf about score, I just play to win for my faction.

[RadiantCowbells]

that's different from policy lynching highest scores nad hoping they flip scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

just so long as its not me because i'm sick of being scums

make it NR/NM scumteam

[RadiantCowbells]

make me town so that everyone who tries to policy lynch me gets fucked

[RadiantCowbells]

thank you xyzzy

[RadiantCowbells]

what did I do

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean the rule was the first time that I rolled scum I would tell you

it's not my fault that I happened to roll scum the same game that you did

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll repay nicorobin in kind by giving her the win on D2 the first time I roll scum here.

did I not get you the win on D2 the first time I rolled scum here

I said nothing about me being town

I had no control over the fact that we rolled SvS

[RadiantCowbells]

I got you the win as promised x_x

[RadiantCowbells]

then you lost that town game because you refused to even consider me being town :shrug:

[RadiantCowbells]

maybe you should take the time to learn to read me so that you don't keep losing games that I'm in

[RadiantCowbells]

i know both games that you're referring to

but it's easy to just say oh i lost this game because RC flipped scum without factoring in the fact that the way you deal with my slot also costs you games when I'm town.

[RadiantCowbells]

figuring out who scum is is hard

[RadiantCowbells]

hi yes i am a townie

look at me do towny things

i am looking for scums

[RadiantCowbells]

Nico you're beautiful and I'll miss you when you're gone

[RadiantCowbells]

I am aligned with the

mafia

.

Sorry meant to say town definitely not a Freudian slip

[RadiantCowbells]

omg i'm so town how dare you question me

[RadiantCowbells]

[RadiantCowbells]

If you genuinely think that I'm scum then so be it

But you're getting lynched tomorrow if I go through

[RadiantCowbells]

have you considered voting someone else?

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: RC

game 4

VOTE: RC

game 5

Lynch RC

game 6

VOTE: RC

game 7

one would almost think that you're voting me for personal reasons when you've voted me for every game so far
this is at odds with your claim that you don't actually care about my presence in games and aren't trying to policy lynch me, and this holds true outside of this game as well

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: NM

[RadiantCowbells]

Tripe

[RadiantCowbells]

I need to verify some meta but I'm lazy

[RadiantCowbells]

I know that I am town

It takes all town votes to Lynch scum

If NM is scum then lynching him is required to win the game
If NM is town and vote parking on me then lynching him is required to win the game

There's never any way that tomorrow's lynch isn't NM if I somehow get lynched anyway so debating alternative scum is pointless

Either NM stops being a shit or the Lynch is going in the pair of us

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll gladly 1v1 him and take the town loss if he's town even.

I just want it done with

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

I'm town and even if I were scum I'd be able to freely mislynch you and win tomorrow regardless
do you want to vote someone else or are we just lynching you?

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Ausuka

perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[RadiantCowbells]

deedle's response to the scumread on her is pretty awful and she hasn't actually tried to sort anyone so

sure

VOTE: Deedles

[RadiantCowbells]

Welp

Kinda think that one's chickadees fault

Pine why did you say everyone's play besides me and Deedles was unacceptable? Why were we better

[RadiantCowbells]

deedle's iso consisted of not doing anything until I started the NM wagon then hopping on the NM wagon, calling RedFlavor scum because he pushed her because 'every person must be scum' which was clearly a joke then declaring a 1v1

I considered that theoretically she had higher probability of being town because she had two votes on her but it was 24 hours to deadline and I figured something that came out of the wagon would be useful even if she was town

what's ridiculously ill considered about trying to finish a wagon before deadline on someone who has a bad iso?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think that there was anything towny about chickadee's play and you acting like there is strikes me as a TMI townread

[RadiantCowbells]

FIne

VOTE: Chickadee

VOTE: Chickadee
compromise lynch. Still want pine. This is just most likely buddy imo.

deedle's response to the scumread on her is pretty awful and she hasn't actually tried to sort anyone so

sure

VOTE: Deedles

Of these 3 votes why am I specifically getting singled out?

[RadiantCowbells]

'burden of proficiency'? why was I supposed to be townreading chickadee?

[RadiantCowbells]

so wait. I haven't been scummy, then I do the same thing as other people do, people whom you think are outright scummy, and your progression from there is to say that I'm the scummiest of the 3 people who all did the same thing.

[RadiantCowbells]

you still haven't explained why I was supposed to be townreading chickadee or why you were townreading chickadee which is the important question

[RadiantCowbells]

for the fact that she never actually scumhunted

[RadiantCowbells]

by all rights I should be able to lynch any slot in this game and hit scum
by that same logic why are you giving NM a pass who has done jack shit besides shitvote me and then hammer town?

[RadiantCowbells]

myself/ausuka should be confirmed not a team given that he was on for a significant amount of time earlier
technically this isn't 100% confirmation but I'm town so

on that subject, @Ausuka is there a reason you had no comment on pine/RF?

[RadiantCowbells]

NM thoughts on the 1v1?

[RadiantCowbells]

neither party is RC therefore it's tvt

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: RF

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: RedFlavor just to contingency on how willing the mod is to accept shortforms

[RadiantCowbells]

benefits of a classical education