with 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
day one will end in (expired on 2018-07-25 18:30:00)
- thanks ruru for inadvertently reminding me the labyrinth of spirits is coming out in september
- skitter30 v/la Fridays & Saturdays
- quack
I think I love you...In post 354, ruru wrote:- Don't cc fakeclaims in general, I think there are a lot of cases where we decide to lynch a claim regardless of whether it's true or not
Ruru's 354 I've quote is all that needs to be said, don't instantly CC a claim.In post 377, AP wrote:@ruru.@Oka: Can we like.. shut this conversation about claims off? If I was scum I would have loved you both for the amount of ideas you're giving me.
So this was the first BuJaber post, and instantly creating some lovely WIFOM for everyone to digest.In post 12, BuJaber wrote:I think we can safely assume that no two people with the same number are scum together.
I'm gonna assume at this point that BuJ is pretty serious about his WIFOM creation.In post 32, BuJaber wrote:Is this how you normally are?In post 17, ofrhz wrote:let's notIn post 12, BuJaber wrote: I think we can safely assume that no two people with the same number are scum together.
Because your tone rubs me the wrong way. I feel dismissed and belittled.
VOTE: ofrhz
Here my post to Brass is given as reason for me being scum. For context, my comment to Brass was that he was correct that I would not go along with a 3xscum on the same number but that I would have gone along with 2xscum picking the same number. Just to be clear, I'm indirectly disagreeing with BuJabers "scum didn't pick the same number", and get scumread for it.In post 75, BuJaber wrote:I think Sando might be scum here. That comment saying brass is right about him comes off as a disarming tactic.
VOTE: Sando
@Sando - what is CJ?
Oh look, a "random" prediction that just so happens to point at me and Brass.In post 157, BuJaber wrote:Random prediction time : 1 one of the people who looked up previous games is scum.
Ok here we go with the digging. So this is saying that a townie doesn't care if scum are playing optimally or not, but BuJaber is flat out telling us that they are playing "optimally" and coordinating to get the best PRs. He's also accusing me of playing optimally like scum would and picking the most popular town-picked number... You can accuse me of creating WIFOM or you can accuse me of playing "optimally", not both.In post 197, BuJaber wrote:See a townie can research and make assumptions based on past games but they would still be rooted in WIFOM. Will the current scum team follow the trends or won't they?
Scum researching tells them exactly how past scum did it and how successful they were and then they make the decision to go along with past success or go a different route but then in the game ghread they will likely try to subtly make us assume the opposite of what they actually did. Their arguments look better if they research first.
A townie doesn't care if scum is playing optimally or not. They just want to identify them. Scum would want to increase their chances.
This just shows that BuJaber isn't actually reading context. I agreed with Brass on what I'd do as SCUM, and I agreed that he should continue to consider me and another 4 picker as scum possibilities because it's within my meta. How on earth can BuJaber think I'm trying to get Brass off my back with this?In post 329, BuJaber wrote:If brass is town he's scum. I felt that he agreed with his meta analysis so that he wouldn't analyze him further.
Ignoring it is by far and away the safest play. You're literally attacking me for agreeing, how is that safe?In post 380, BuJaber wrote:But basically A and B suck for scum. They will likely bring a lot of suspicion on them. The person with the meta read would definitely pursue it at a minimum even if others ignore it.
In post 381, BuJaber wrote:If you don't like WIFOM stop playing open games.
In post 383, Sando wrote:Ignoring it is by far and away the safest play. You're literally attacking me for agreeing, how is that safe?In post 380, BuJaber wrote:But basically A and B suck for scum. They will likely bring a lot of suspicion on them. The person with the meta read would definitely pursue it at a minimum even if others ignore it.
Here's the thing: you keep saying it's probability based and rational and you like where your vote is (yet it's somehow semi-rvs) but:In post 346, Enigma wrote:Wagons in RVS mean nothing.
Well, maybe if you did maybe try to look a bit into it, you might understand where I'm coming from and my logic, rather than stubbornly dismissing everything I say and repeating the same arguments we've already touched on. Yes stubborn.
Let's not waste our time further.
Yes and if you've noticed I've reduced my WIFOM significantly. I got the discussion I wanted about dtaft picks and I stopped talking about it. I got the discussion I wanted about PLing ruru and I stopped talking about it.In post 382, OkaPoka wrote:@BuJaber but you do agree that creating wifom is more beneficial for scum than town right?
Then we fundamentally disagree. Ignoring it is terrible.In post 383, Sando wrote:Ignoring it is by far and away the safest play. You're literally attacking me for agreeing, how is that safe?In post 380, BuJaber wrote:But basically A and B suck for scum. They will likely bring a lot of suspicion on them. The person with the meta read would definitely pursue it at a minimum even if others ignore it.
im ok with thisIn post 388, Skygazer wrote:If Enigma flips scum then Oka is a likely candidate for a partner
In post 387, OkaPoka wrote:im going to actually have to agree here with the folks on the enigma wagon that enigma's refusal to take his semi-rvs vote off or make a case against bujaber is fishy. furthermore enigma's admission to not really scumhunting is throwing me for a loop here, we are 16 pages in soo
lmaoIn post 392, OkaPoka wrote:enigma is town because how the wagon formed is scummy as hell