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>I dont like all the talk about crumbing, because it just gives mafia and SK targets to kill. BTW. I hard claim Gun Smithilante blocker.
>thanks for making the game EZ MM
>when I saw “Spews town” I mean, spews not mafia, could still be SK
>i honestly feel MM’s wagon was not bussed by fellow mafia. Could be sk there tho.- Eragon
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would Scumbuddy!UnrealSeal make this post after hammer?In post 204, UnrealSeal wrote:god fucking dammit.
i leave for a few hours and stupid shit happens.
i'd bet money this flips town.- Eragon
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because they were based of MM's spewIn post 223, OkaPoka wrote:
why do u only have town reads and null reads and no scum readsIn post 220, Eragon wrote:Towncore
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Town Lean
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Null
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Neutral null(less not-read and more I could go either way so convince me)
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nope, we have time for this to settle out, I am fairly confident in mafia being in my null brackets or possible in my town leanIn post 228, OkaPoka wrote:are u not worried that you have so many townreads and so little scumreads- Eragon
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@AP I don't see MM using this tone for distancing against a buddy.In post 58, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
Wow. ++++++scumpoints for trying to confuse people, seriously... like, it's not funny enough to be a shitpost, and it's false. VOTE: apIn post 53, AP wrote:
Except if you clear any of the 3 anti-town players you are telling one or two of them you're not the Cop.In post 51, Sando wrote:Hypoclaiming is to allow you to give results as a PR without giving away your PR status
But there's this little thing I want to note right now: There is NO COP! It's a GUNSMITH. This means our investigative can return up to 4 guilties, but one of them is fake (the Vig will return a positive result as well as the Mafia/SK).
I also saw someone mentioning a Roleblocker, and I really hope that was a typo. Otherwise I'd assume someone's playing the game without knowing the setup or mechanics, which would really suck.
I could be wrong, but I highly, highly doubt it- Eragon
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most of my games on ToSIn post 238, OkaPoka wrote:wait ur towncoring eragon cuz meta?
what meta do u have prior experience with him what- Eragon
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uhh it matters that they are inactive and an easy push/mis-lynch.In post 261, OkaPoka wrote:
dont think vla mattersIn post 260, Eragon wrote:does anyone else find it odd that Sando voted the only person V/LA and is calling them flat out SK?
but sk matters i think?
What could be a possibility is Scum!Sando who attacked SK!Ejji and is trying to get Ejji lynched before they come back
or another possibility
did something spicy happen last night Sando?- Eragon
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the only thing I saw him mention MM specifically was 174In post 276, Sando wrote:
CJ's push on MM was so far outside of scum meta as to be pretty much conf-town. The vote on MM was pure scum-CJ though, slide in with no read, hence by EOD I was pretty up in the air on CJ. With the flip, the slide in clearly wasn't a scum move, CJ won't do that on a partner, leaving only SK or town as a possibility, I don't think he's SK.In post 272, Eragon wrote:why was Ceejay conf. town?
I didn't see much of a push- Eragon
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the funny thing is I just finished a game where something like this happened, and I pushed the person who slipped onto scum wagon at the end, and he flipped scum.In post 281, Sando wrote:
Apologies, meant Otter.In post 279, Eragon wrote:
the only thing I saw him mention MM specifically was 174In post 276, Sando wrote:
CJ's push on MM was so far outside of scum meta as to be pretty much conf-town. The vote on MM was pure scum-CJ though, slide in with no read, hence by EOD I was pretty up in the air on CJ. With the flip, the slide in clearly wasn't a scum move, CJ won't do that on a partner, leaving only SK or town as a possibility, I don't think he's SK.In post 272, Eragon wrote:why was Ceejay conf. town?
I didn't see much of a push
The push on Otter was townie as all getout
The vote on MM was scummie due to exactly what you just said, he barely mentions MM and slips in late.
would it be too much to hope for twice?- Eragon
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okIn post 293, Sando wrote:
Same game CJ and Otter were discussing earlier in the game had CJ scum completely ignore opportunities where he "should" have bussed. I don't see a game where his 1 partner is about to die D1 as the time CJ chooses to drastically change his playstyle like that.In post 290, Eragon wrote:the funny thing is I just finished a game where something like this happened, and I pushed the person who slipped onto scum wagon at the end, and he flipped scum.
would it be too much to hope for twice?- Eragon
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About seal's EoD after hammer.
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4. UnrealSeal-
>108defends MM by saying they are noob town for hopping votes. Shades otter’s response and vote and then votes otter. I find this post wolfy
>112 I dont see the point of this at all
>114 blatant wolfy misrep saying otter posted directly after 101, otter posted at 105
>not a huge fan of 118, and I don’t like the stuff about Not_Mafia, seems a bit TMI tbh.
>129 spews both Lucky and Unreal town
>204 wtf is this post?? Betting money MM flips town. My question is, does scum make that post post-hammer
this is my stuff on Seal. and ignore the part about spewing both of them town(129) I was tired and it was a shit call.
I think it actually makes one of them scum.
so really I havent seen much towny stuff from them...- Eragon
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1.if you say soIn post 305, LuckyOtter wrote:Welcome, replacements. Oka, stop PR hunting.
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1. Seal's EOD post is NAI to me, if you want my opinion.
2. Why is Sando's 176 off-putting to you?
3. What is the point of including Blackstar in your reads?
4. MM voting your slot for inactivity is completely NAI for your slot. MM's vote was just to appear to be towny by getting people to talk. It could also have been an attempt to distance, or to say hey buddy wanna help me out here? It definitely doesn't clear you.
5. The suggestion that Sando is trying to get ejj lynched before he gets back from VLA is ludicrous
6. Your stance on me has changed from your initial post to 300. You had a pretty waffly read on me that seemed to conclude with me being town, and now you've not seen "much towny stuff" from me. Can you clarify/elaborate?
2.ill answer that in my next post
3.because I didn't edit it out
4.ill explain it
5. ye tbh :/
6.im not talking about you. I'm talking about Seal- Eragon
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To me, this seems like a bunch of unnecessary shade and (bias incoming) confusing me a lot. I’m not sure what that whole post was really about, but it seems like “Oh I understand this is and I’m trying to make it clearer so that it seems like I’m being pro-town by clearing things up”
When I didn’t really
Understand it
It was just a restatement of Ceejay’s post
It doesn’t 100% spew me as not mafia(im not) but this post seems like MM was going for towncred acting like they were trying to get inactive people posting. Plus idk whether or not mafia have daychat(regular donner’s party yes, this one says no one has daychat) but if they do have day chat this post would never happen to a partner in threadIn post 98, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:VOTE: Mathdino I want more from you. You've been staying out of the discussion, as if you didn't want to commit. I think you're fairly experienced and all, so please step in and contribute.- Eragon
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In post 300, Eragon wrote:4. UnrealSeal-
>108defends MM by saying they are noob town for hopping votes. Shades otter’s response and vote and then votes otter. I find this post wolfy
>112 I dont see the point of this at all
>114 blatant wolfy misrep saying otter posted directly after 101, otter posted at 105
>not a huge fan of 118, and I don’t like the stuff about Not_Mafia, seems a bit TMI tbh.
>129 spews both Lucky and Unreal town
>204 wtf is this post?? Betting money MM flips town. My question is, does scum make that post post-hammer
this is my stuff on Seal. and ignore the part about spewing both of them town(129) I was tired and it was a shit call.
I think it actually makes one of them scum.
so really I havent seen much towny stuff from them...
explanation for Seal
>you defended MM by saying they are noob town
>why post "people don't have reading comprehension" when it was an honest mis-understanding?
>yep that was my tired zombie side, sorry
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well I havent played with N_M before so I can't really say anything, but I don't see why he is super-towny from meta aloneIn post 118, UnrealSeal wrote:Yes, people play differently from game to game but that doesn't mean previous experience with that player is worthless. If there are large discrepancies in play between games, it's worth prodding into.
Note, I said it was genuine for Not_Mafia. If it was anybody else people would be calling it out but it's fucking Not_Mafia. A naked vote from him means he's scum-reading somebody and I fully expect him to start shitposting "please lynch X" as the day goes on. He's sorted easily is what I mean.
Your 82 on the other hand reads like scum trying to pounce a weak town player, and not a genuine scumlean/scumread
also "I fully expect him to start shitposting "please Lynch X" as day goes on"
what happened here? he didn't do this, so does that mean he doesn't fit town meta?
>yep I corrected myself there. it actually seems like it makes one of you scum because MM was like
"I think they are both town too" and it seems like a good way to try to get a buddy townread
>explained already, this was just a terrible post based on outcome- Eragon
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meant for otter, sorryIn post 349, Eragon wrote:@seal
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To me, this seems like a bunch of unnecessary shade and (bias incoming) confusing me a lot. I’m not sure what that whole post was really about, but it seems like “Oh I understand this is and I’m trying to make it clearer so that it seems like I’m being pro-town by clearing things up”
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Understand it
It was just a restatement of Ceejay’s post
It doesn’t 100% spew me as not mafia(im not) but this post seems like MM was going for towncred acting like they were trying to get inactive people posting. Plus idk whether or not mafia have daychat(regular donner’s party yes, this one says no one has daychat) but if they do have day chat this post would never happen to a partner in threadIn post 98, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:VOTE: Mathdino I want more from you. You've been staying out of the discussion, as if you didn't want to commit. I think you're fairly experienced and all, so please step in and contribute.- Eragon
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AMAIn post 629, OkaPoka wrote:but i think the reason why all these wagons suck is we have been overlooking some solid town players that are actually scum.
maybe we won't be able to do this today but I want someone to see if AP and Eragon and ManateeDude can stand up to some harsh lines of questioning . - Eragon
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