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But why not just ask the guy who you tr on whos scum? It will look like youre just trying to read the guy, rather than asking for an nk target.In post 91, AP wrote:@MM/@Sando:
The hypo "2nd scum if X is scum" is just a way to provide the Vig with more leads IF they need it. I mean, if the Vig already made up their mind that's fine and there's no need to do it. However, let's assume I am the Vig (again:). Now let's say I got lucky and nailed a Mafioso on N1. Now I'm stuck and I'm not sure where to go next, but I do TR someone and want their advice. The problem is I can't ask them for their advice because I'll be outing myself. So, I'm proposing everyone does that unprompted (which is actually now prompted if we do agree to it), and I will have got the advice I need from that particular someone I need it fromHYPOTHETICAL ASSUMPTIONmerely to get the point acrosswithout having to ask and out myself.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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LuckyOtter has been more pro-town on a game I've played with him where I was scum, and that's like within the first 100 pages.In post 96, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
Is he usually active? Could you, if you have those games, post the link to games he was in to allow us to know his meta?In post 92, ceejayvinoya wrote:Hi I'm back.
LuckyOtter not being very engaged in this game is bothering me. I think he could be likely scum here.
VOTE: LuckyOtter
Here's his iso in that game.
viewtopic.php?p=10219293&user_select%5B ... #p10219293
Notice the difference in the quality of his posts I'm seeing here from there.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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Oh I think I see what you mean. Lols. You can't really get output from us because we'd never know that the guy you killed (assuming you're vig) is scum.In post 100, AP wrote:
OK. I'll just say "Hey, CJ.. considering X is scum who do you think their partner is? I'm just asking though, cuz I definitely am not the Vig and thus I don't know this guy's alignment, but I kinda want to assume this guy in particular is Mafia anyway, por favor."In post 93, ceejayvinoya wrote:But why not just ask the guy who you tr on whos scum? It will look like youre just trying to read the guy, rather than asking for an nk target.
P.S. Try to reread my posts to get the bigger picture.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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Right now my problem with you here @Otter, is that in our previous game, your first few votes actually makes sense and are progressive.
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He was scum and I ended up listening to people instead of my gut.In post 42, ejjinami wrote:
are you from the game where cee was super townie and explained his reads? Was he scum?In post 6, LuckyOtter wrote:VOTE: ceejayvinoya like I should have last time.
Pedit: Damn you manatee
Gut says AP is a good wagon.
VOTE: AP
So I was kinda disappointed when I saw these.In post 82, LuckyOtter wrote:
Nah just looking for a good wagon. Yours is better. VOTE: Marshmallow MarshallIn post 79, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:In post 61, LuckyOtter wrote:
He was scum and I ended up listening to people instead of my gut.In post 42, ejjinami wrote:
are you from the game where cee was super townie and explained his reads? Was he scum?In post 6, LuckyOtter wrote:VOTE: ceejayvinoya like I should have last time.
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Gut says AP is a good wagon.
VOTE: AP
Did you just entirely sheep my views lol?In post 62, LuckyOtter wrote:
Mmmm I dunno, honestly you're probably right D2, but D3 I think I'd be more likely to go crumbhunting. I'm thinking crumbing is better than hypoing in this scenario but I have no experience with hypoing so take that with a grain of salt. I just feel like hypoing might lead to more WIFOM than necessaryIn post 49, ejjinami wrote: Let's be frank, no one is gonna waste time reading through a killed dude's ISO just to look for "possible crumbs". And with the person dead it's all WIFOM anyways. Crumbing is most useful to those who are still alive and want others to believe their claim.
Mind telling me why Marsh is a good wagon atm?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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My problem with engagement is specifically about you.In post 105, LuckyOtter wrote:I know we played together so you have that meta, but if 'not being engaged' is what's bothering you, how do you feel about shizune, who has posted once to say hello, ask a question that was already answered, and not give a RVS vote?
Pedit: Same question to you wrt shizune, MM.
Look at it this way. You and player X are in a game together. You see that player X is behaving differently compared to your last game together. Will you not wonder why?
I've never played with shizune before so I can't help there. Were going to have to see more.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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Explain to me like I'm a 5th grader on why Otter's answer was bad because I still don't get it.
I called out Otter for not being engaged, which also implied that I have a meta on Otter.
Otter answers this, saying this here's different because the circumstances here are different, then he acknowledges the meta I have on him.
He then asks the question that since a lack of engagement is not bothering me, why am I not on shizune.
The only thing I think you're going into here is his lead on why am I not on shizune when we know full well that my read on Otter is meta.
This is excusable because he thinks that I read people based on their activity in the game so far, since my read on Otter this game is like my second post. I can see why Otter thinks it's a valid question to ask.
Why do you not have an opinion regarding the difference of his posts here and the game I linked? Or do you just don't think it's important?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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Very clever, but I think most people looked at it the wrong way.
I voted LuckyOtter for meta reasons. Everything was fine then.
LuckyOtter then explains why my vote on him was wrong.
Then UnrealSeal comes along. He votes LuckyOtter, but for reasons different for what I put forward, reasons which I feel come from not reading LuckyOtter's explanation on why my vote was wrong.
I voted UnrealSeal and told him I didn't understand his vote, and that LuckyOtter already provided what I had asked of him.
UnrealSeal then tells me he voted LuckyOtter for being deflective in his answer.
Finding his answer satisfactory, I switched back.
Why people had trouble comprehending this, idk.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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I switched back because that was where my vite was earlier, and I wasn't really content with Lucky's answer.In post 171, AP wrote:
So, if Lucky "already provided what you had asked of him", why did you "switch back" to him then? Did you agree that Lucky was "being deflective in his answer" to Unreal? And do you think that is reason enough when he had "already provided whatIn post 169, ceejayvinoya wrote:I voted UnrealSeal and told him I didn't understand his vote, and thatLuckyOtter already provided what I had asked of him.
UnrealSeal then tells me he voted LuckyOtter for being deflective in his answer.
Finding his answer satisfactory,I switched back.youhad asked of him"?
It's like I asked a guy to bring me 5 apples and instead he brings me only 4.
I don't think Lucky is being deflective in his answer. I stopped voting Unreal because I understood why he was scumreading Lucky. It's up to the two of them to sort that out.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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I think MM is likely scum. As for if they're the same alignment, I dunno.In post 172, AP wrote:
So, you think MM is caught scum?? If so, do you think MM & Lucky are of the same alignment?In post 170, ceejayvinoya wrote:Please tell me you just set a trap and you got MM
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I already said in 173 that I wasn't fully satisfied with Otter's answer. Sigh.In post 151, BlackStar wrote:In post 140, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
So because I'm not as lethargic as you, I'm scummy? I'm always top poster on my forum, every game (unless I die early of course, but even there lol). And "desperate for town validation"? Elaborate on that please.In post 139, BlackStar wrote:I really don't like the vibe I'm getting from Marsh. He seems way too frantic and desperate for town validation
If you want a link to a game on my forum, http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthrea ... ht=spirits. My newbie game: viewtopic.php?t=76171&start=875.
Does anyone know BlackStar's meta, or have a link to a game he was in to give me?
Im not lethargic. And you're scummy because you're freaking out and flopping around all over the place hoping that people will stop being suspicious with you. You're moving your vote in order to have it line up with the general consensus and you're extremely defensive. I didn't even ask about your meta or past games and you offered it up because you're so desperate for people to stop scum reading you lolIn post 141, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:@BlackStar I want reaction to #140, please. Going to bed now, good morning peopleCeejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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Okay. Back. Otter leaned scummy to me because I assumed that his lack of engagement here compared to our previous game was suspicious.In post 182, Sando wrote: So Otter was scummy for lack of progression onto MM and then you do the same?
Marsh leaned scummy to me because he agreed with AP's example which isn't even applicable.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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In post 313, AP wrote:@CJV: Really?? You know, after my reread and by association and "best guessing" ..etc I had ruled you out of being anti-town despite not particularly liking your posts of D1. You faking total ignorance here still rubs me the wrong way and I can't be too sure you're not the Mafia/SK after all.
I honestly don't know what's going on here. If I'm being ignorant then that means I am ignorant. It looks to me like you already had an idea of what happened. Why not just tell me what I'm missing?Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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I don't understand why you labelled his consistency in setup-theorizing as a scumtell. Do those theories of his help him if he's scum?In post 381, UnrealSeal wrote:
my actual post.In post 108, UnrealSeal wrote:I get some town vibes from AP but I'm not ready to actually call him town yet. He's only posted theory so far with a votepark on himself, and has not done any actual scum/townhunting so far. I'd suggest wagoning the fuck out of him if his activity begins dropping once theory-crafting dies down.
his activity has not died down but he's still mostly theorizing around the setup and there's very little scum/town-hunting still in his posts. Furthermore, N_M is right in the fact that he hasn't laid a vote down so far in D2 and it makes me feel like he's playing safely and inoffensively as possible.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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Why are you asking me for targets. Where's your case on sando???In post 479, OkaPoka wrote:
gimme name of person you want me to make post on and i go make post on that one personIn post 471, ceejayvinoya wrote:@OkaPoka how about considering everyone else? I mean, practically everyone else has more content than NM that we could analyze.
but then u have to vote not_mafia or sando if i do this
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I don't understand the way you're trying to prove it tho.
First off, NM shows what you think is scummy behavior.
You then point this out.
Several players then tell you that it's his meta and not really indicative of anything.
You then imitate his behavior? Do something similarly ridiculous as NM? What do you want us to do, townread you for that? Forgive me if this seems misrep because I'm having trouble seeing where you're going.
What's this point you're trying to prove about NM?
All I'm getting right now is that you want him lynched.Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst- ceejayvinoya
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