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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:24 pm

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VOTE: ManateeDude

there can only be one creature of the sea in here.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:35 pm

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In post 38, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 34, BlackStar wrote:I can already tell this game will be interesting
Why?
AP = Shitposter
Not_Mafia = Shitposter
Mathdino = Economics Wonderland
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Post Post #108 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:23 pm

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I get some town vibes from AP but I'm not ready to actually call him town yet. He's only posted theory so far with a votepark on himself, and has not done any actual scum/townhunting so far. I'd suggest wagoning the fuck out of him if his activity begins dropping once theory-crafting dies down.

MM feels very much like new!town with all the vote hopping. Not-Mafia's vote on him feels like a genuine Town!Not_Mafia vote but I think it's misplaced.

VOTE: LuckyOtter 105 is pretty bad (CJ's bothered because he has meta reads on you, not just because your disengaged. I don't think there's a way to misunderstand that without doing so purposefully) and the 82 vote feels rather opportunistic.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #3) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:06 am

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In post 109, ceejayvinoya wrote:Wtf is this. VOTE: UnrealSeal

You did read my post 92? I specifically said he wasn't being engaged. Otter's 105 is okay to me. What do you think is wrong about it?
do people in this game not having reading comprehension.

Your 92 does say he's not being engaged. You then go on to explain in 101 why you think this lack of engagement is a problem for Lucky specifically through your previous games with them. Unless I'm misinterpreting something there (which I don't think I am).
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Post Post #114 (isolation #4) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:51 am

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In post 113, ceejayvinoya wrote: This is excusable
because he thinks that I read people based on their activity in the game so far
, since my read on Otter this game is like my second post. I can see why Otter thinks it's a valid question to ask.
except Otter posted directly after your 101. i don't see how he could come to this conclusion when you made it clearly obvious that your problem with his engagement stemmed from previous experience. Whereas this is Shizune's first game on the site, so I presume you would not have experience with them.

Otter's answer seems deflective and that's my big problem with it.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #5) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:25 am

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Yes, people play differently from game to game but that doesn't mean previous experience with that player is worthless. If there are large discrepancies in play between games, it's worth prodding into.

Note, I said it was genuine for Not_Mafia. If it was anybody else people would be calling it out but it's fucking Not_Mafia. A naked vote from him means he's scum-reading somebody and I fully expect him to start shitposting "please lynch X" as the day goes on. He's sorted easily is what I mean.

Your 82 on the other hand reads like scum trying to pounce a weak town player, and not a genuine scumlean/scumread
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Post Post #134 (isolation #6) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:25 am

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In post 126, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
N_M didn't post enough for me to read him. Why do you believe he's town for some unexplained votes? :shifty:
It's N_M's meta. He plays in a way that makes him very easy to sort.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:26 am

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he's been playing this way for like 4 years
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Post Post #204 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:28 pm

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god fucking dammit.

i leave for a few hours and stupid shit happens.

i'd bet money this flips town.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #9) » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:41 am

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In post 300, Eragon wrote:4. UnrealSeal-

> blatant wolfy misrep saying otter posted directly after 101, otter posted at 105
Otter posted at 105, 4 posts after 101 and approximately 3 hours afterwards.

ignoring the semantics part of this, what is the scum motivation for doing this?

I'd also like you to elaborate on your thought process a little more in this post, as the only thing you've really gone into detail on is my Twilight post.

I have no real scum-reads at the moment (I previously had one on Lucky, but his vote was on MM and I don't think he was bussing in this instance.) and while I do have some theories, most of them are stretches at the moment.

I'll park on VOTE: OkaPoka for now
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Post Post #321 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:12 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:22 pm

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UNVOTE:

I had originally voted OkaPoka due to a theory that came about from his 304 (that being he was SK trying to point out Vig to the last mafia). I don't like the insistence on N_M but I don't think anti-town would push it this long and his continued play doesn't fit the original theory.'

With that said, I am at a loss for actual scum-reads so I'll vote the person who gives me the most bad vibes

VOTE: AP
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Post Post #381 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:51 pm

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In post 108, UnrealSeal wrote:I get some town vibes from AP but I'm not ready to actually call him town yet. He's only posted theory so far with a votepark on himself, and has not done any actual scum/townhunting so far. I'd suggest wagoning the fuck out of him if his activity begins dropping once theory-crafting dies down.
my actual post.

his activity has not died down but he's still mostly theorizing around the setup and there's very little scum/town-hunting still in his posts. Furthermore, N_M is right in the fact that he hasn't laid a vote down so far in D2 and it makes me feel like he's playing safely and inoffensively as possible.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:48 am

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I voted you because I thought that your posts were being overly safe and inoffensive. You hadn't laid a vote down till now and when N_M asked you about that, you threw shade at him.

I'm continuing to vote you now because your reaction to my vote is incredibly overblown and out of character, and your case against me is so much WIFOM.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:13 am

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Scum N_M simply does not post at all. In the game I played with scum N_M, he put down 1 naked vote then fucked off the rest of D1. Here's he put down multiple nakeds and is generally drawing more attention than the last time.

Honestly, the best thing to do with N_M is to get any town investigatives on him immediately. Policy Lynching/Vigging him is bad because if he's town he can be a genuinely good asset, if somewhat exasperating to work with.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:42 pm

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He's a troll and a memer but if I recall correctly, he also has some genuinely good reads a lot of the times.

Let me put it this way, this were an all VT game I'd agree to policy lynch him, but in a game where we can confirm (or at least get a hint to since GS) his alignment, there's no reason to get rid of him at this point.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:33 pm

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I'm convinced

VOTE: Sando
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Post Post #534 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:35 pm

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@Oka I trust N_M's reads and I don't like your wagon
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Post Post #543 (isolation #18) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:49 pm

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@Sando my response is that in what world is abandoning a rising wagon (Oka) to put a vote on someone who most people have as a TR (AP) a safe play.

why would any scum pass up that
opportunity
. Italicized the keyword there

Oka wagon is pretty fucking awful btw, scum do not put themselves out like this and lead the discussion this much

I also think that you, Oka, should get off of N_M, and wait for the GS to get a result on him (a thing the GS should do, unless they have a stronger scum-read)
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Post Post #545 (isolation #19) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:52 pm

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I TR him for now, but i do want the GS to get a result from him unless they have someone else they think needs confirming.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:01 pm

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Post Post #551 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:10 pm

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that doesn't answer my question.

in what world is dropping a rising wagon to vote a popular TR based on gut, then hard-defending the victim of said wagon a safe play for scum to make.

the answer is it fucking isn't, because all scum really has to do is votepark and then lurk while their target is mislynched.

explain to me what I have to gain from defending Oka.
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Post Post #589 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:10 pm

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LuckyOtter wrote:
then proceed to scumread everyone on the obvious vote
.
Show me where I said this

I said the wagon was awful. Awful Wagon =/= scumled wagon.
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Post Post #591 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:51 pm

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but why would I do that when I could've just lurked and waited for him to get lynched

scum don't need towncred that much. as long as they put in just the bare minimum they can cruise by and get mislynches, because lurkers are stupidly hard to lynch.

towncred for scum is a nice thing to have but it's not worth this amount of trouble.
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Post Post #651 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:33 am

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oh boy this is happening.

I'm VT.

it doesn't matter since AP said he would lolhammer anyways, so I'll just leave these reads here.

Oka is town
Eragon is town
N_M is town but GS should GS him just in case. Honestly, it's between N_M and Oka for whoever should GS him

sus ManateeDude, guy gives me bad vibes and he doesn't seem to be putting much effort.
if N_M is town then trust his reads
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Post Post #653 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:38 am

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that only makes 4 votes on Sando though

i appreciate the effort though lol
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Post Post #781 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:26 am

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what the fuck this game ended when I was asleep

GG yall.
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