- ***Pine, he likes standing in fields like a pretty little flower.
- teacher, he once told a muffin to lynch itself.
- Chickadee, she eats pineapples on Thursdays.
- **Myloninja13, formerly known as "Peter".
- *Kokichi Oma, he has lost 12 of his fingers.
- CreativeMod1, he doesn't know if fairies exist.
- *ofrhz, they think puppets can dance.
- WhyMafia***northsidegalFA_Q2,hisherhis favourite strawberry is an orange.
- **GuiltyLion, one day, he wants to be a lightbulb.
- *Irrelephant11, oh the shame of him!
- Enigma, blankets are their forte.
- **Feysal, they don't want their parents to win the election.
- Not Known 15, they only wash the top left quarter of their body.
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Trapped!
This is not a fairytale, or is it?
Unfortunates:
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Rules:
Deadlines & Activity
Day LengthNight LengthOther Phases?Varies with each challenge (explained in post 2)48 hours- You can see how much time is left in each phase at the top of this thread.
- If you do not post in the thread for more than 48 hours, you will be given a prod.
- You must reply to this prod by posting in the thread within 24 hours or you will face being replaced.
- If you are prodded 3 times you will be force replaced.
- If you know that you are going to be away for more than 48 hours, either activate VLA here or send me a PM saying how long you will be away for.
- You may be given a prod for a lack of content if I feel your posts do not contain any content relevant to the game (prodge). These will only be issued upon consecutive prodges.
- Deadlines may be extended by up to 48 hours if someone replaces in to give them time to catch up on the thread. The deadline extension may apply to both day and night deadlines regardless of alignment. All deadline extensions will be announced in the thread.
General Rules- All site rules apply.
- Do not attack other players with hostile intent. Mafia is a game of manipulation and, as such, insults will naturally be thrown around as a method of devaluing the opinion of another player. This means that some level of tough skin is required. However, there is a huge difference between playing the game and attacking an individual. If you ever feel like you are being attacked by another individual beyond the boundaries set by the game, PM me immediately.
- The mod colours I will be using are 8000BFand804000, do not try to impersonate me by using these colours. Any information posted by me in this colour is important and official information.
- If you make a post with broken tags, you may explicitly ask me to fix them in a new post and I will happily do so. I will not fix tags unless requested to.
- You may not quote directly from any messages sent by anyone in any PTs. Copy and pasting a message is allowed as long as it is not quoted. If you do not know whether what you want to say is a quote or just paraphrasing then send me a PM asking if what you want to post is allowed.
- Do not use any form of provable randomness. Claiming you did something randomly is fine as long as you cannot prove it.
- If you are aware of anyone breaking these rules outside this thread then please report it to me immediately. If I find out you intentionally avoided reporting a rule breaker then I may punish you as well.
- If someone breaks one of these rules in the thread, please refrain from quoting them as this will often repeat the rule break.
- If you think that I have made a mistake, whether this is within the vote count or an action resolution, PM me immediately. Do not point out the mistake in the thread. If the fix to this mistake requires a post in the thread then I will do it.
- Pretending to break rules or theoretically breaking rules will count as actually breaking the rules. An example of theoretically breaking a rule is posting a role card that you claim the moderator sent you even if it is not actually your role.
- All rule breaks that I have to mention in the thread will also mention potentially breaking rule 10.
Voting, lynching, night actions & deaths
Allowed Voting MethodsVoting OptionsVoting ResoloutionPM Only
Voting Phase Only (explained in post 2)Players- Unvoting before voting a player is not necessary.Not relevant.
- Abreviations in votes are allowed. Eg. VOTE: mutant would mean you are now voting mutantdevle.
- If it is not undoubtedly clear who you are voting for then I will quote your vote saying it has not been counted.
- Once a player has reached the requirements to be lynched, votes and unvotes will no longer be counted and the game will enter twilight.Not relevant.
- During twilight, everyone can continue to post in the thread until it is closed. This includes the player who has just been lynched.Not relevant.
- Failure to submit a night action before the night countdown runs out will result in your night action not being used.
- Scum players may submit factional abilities on their teammates' behalf, however, any additional abilities they may have can only be submitted by the player they belong to.
- You may change the target of your night action as much as you like. When the night countdown runs out, whoever you last submitted your night action on will be your target.
- Once your death has been announced in the thread you will no longer be allowed to post. This includes posting in any PTs with the exception of the dead chat.
- You will receive a PM when you have died which will include a link to the dead chat.
- Spectators will also have access to the dead chat.
- When a player dies they will be flipped.
Flips Include:Alignment
Full Role (excluding hidden mechanics)Bah PostsNot Permitted.
Failure to follow these rules will result in punishments. The punishments can include warnings, force replacements, mod kills, bans from any future games I host and, in extremely rare cases, the game may have to be reset or a player may receive a ban from the entire site. I reserve the right to change these rules at any time and any changes made will be announced in the thread. I will always try to implement the punishment that has the least impact on the game.Last edited by mutantdevle on Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:20 am, edited 3 times in total.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Setup:- 10 Unfortunates
- 3 Saboteurs
Mechanics:- Day start.
- The scum PT is always open.
- The night phase will last 48 hours where the scum team may perform a standard factional kill.
- At the start of each day phase (floor) a challenge will be announced. These challenges were created before the game and had their order randomised.
- Challenges may have to be completed in a certain time or will have a specific lose condition.
- Players may VOTE: forfeit a challenge which may be useful for challenges with no time limit that drag on.
- If the challenge is completed, a random unfortunatewill secretly become a 'fortunate' at the start of the following night phase. The player chosen is randomly decided through a dice and is informed of their new role.
- The scum PT will be given extra information about the challenge such as the soloution to the challenge or advice on how to prevent the challenge from being completed. It will be publically announced what type of information they are given.
- Once a challenge is failed or completed, the thread will be locked and the voting phase will commence.
- During this phase, each player is sent a form to fill in through PM. This will ask who you are voting for, why you are voting for them and how you would feel about being trapped (a last will).
- All 3 of these questions are compulsive and can result in prods and replacements. Players may change their answers during the entire voting phase which includes prods and replacements.
- Once the phase is over, everyone's answers to the first 2 questions will be posted publically which is then concluded with a final vote count. Whoever has the most votes on them will then be lynched.
- If 2 or more players have the most votes on them, the tie will be resolved through picking short straws. Each 'straw' is secretly given a value in the mod PT. PMs will then be sent to each tying player asking them to pick a straw. Whoever picks the straw with the lowest value is lynched.
- Each player would be asked to put the straws in order of most preferable to least preferable so that if they both pick the same straw then it will go to their 2nd choice instead. These picks cannot be changed once sent in.
- Failure to pick straws may also result in prods and replacements.
- The player who has been lynched will have their answer to the third question publically revealed. Players who are night killed will also have their third question answer publically revealed.
- The initial voting phase will last 48 hours. However, the resolution of ties will almost certainly take up additional time (hopefully no more than another 48 hours).
Role PMs:
Spoiler: Saboteur
Spoiler: Unfortunate
Spoiler: Fortunate
To clarify, Saboteurs have the standard scum win condition and unfortunates/fortunates have the standard town win condition.Last edited by mutantdevle on Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:51 am, edited 1 time in total.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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*double whistle*
"Eh! ooh! what!
Ahh! Its another one of them bobbing crafts, ready with 13 more unfortunates!"
"I tells you what, they are in for a treat. We haves ourselves some dastardly challenges in store for them!
ahahahah! ahahaha!
Like all those before them, they will be imprisoned at the bottom of the tower! At the tops of the tower, lies the key of freedom which they could use to earn their escapes!
They must work as a team to complete challenges and escape each floor. But it's not that simple! The voice demands that some of them must remain trapped!
The voice will choose 3 unfortunates to act as her minions, the saboteurs! This means that not everyone can be trusted.
Only some may leave with the key of freedom. And the rest? That's right, TRAPPED!
ahahahah! ahahaha!"
"On each floor you will be faced with a new challenge. If you complete each challenge you will be rewarded with additional power to uncover who the saboteurs are.
If you make it to floor 6 unobstructed by the saboteurs, you may take the key of freedom and leave!
Not all of you will get that far.
Some of you will be staying here averylong time!"
"Ooooh.
She's so mean isn't she!"
"LINE UP!"
"It's time to choose
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Role PMs have been sent but I was in a rush when I sent them so forgot information like a link to this thread but if you’re reading this then you’ve probably found it.
I’ll update this post with better information later.
Apologies for the time it’s taken to set this all up and how slightly messy it is. Starting next week I will be on top of my moderating game.
Again, I apologise for this messy start.
The game will begin when 11/13 players have confirmed their role or in (expired on 2018-07-20 17:00:00):
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"FLOOR 1!"
"Consecutive Counting"
"Oooh it's an easy one this! They only have to count to one thousands and sixty twenty!
There's magic in numbers and powers in three,
But only one number in mind can lead to the key.
325 is the number to lighten your heart,
But if you count wrong then you will have to restart!
In this challenge, unfortunates must begin each of their posts by counting the next number in the consecutive sequence of 1.
This number must beat the very startof each post and written in number form.
If an unfortunate fails to start their post with the next number, or uses the wrong number, then the mod will restart the count from 0 when they're next online!
And beware, making 7 posts in a row or 13 posts in a single page will also cause the count to reset!"
"Unfortunates! To pass, you must have successfully counted to 325 by the end of 1 week.
Let the challenge begin...
NOW!"Last edited by mutantdevle on Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:38 am, edited 2 times in total.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Some clarification:
"Unfortunates" will always refer to players in general with flavoured text.
Everyone must start their post with the next number in basic counting from 0 to 325 like I have done with this post. Eg. the next person to post will start their post with "1".
Players may not post 7 times in a row. Your 7th post will cause the count to be reset. Additionally, if you make a 13th post on a single page then the count will also be reset. This is to prevent players from spamming the thread to reach the count.
Now is the time to ask questions about the challenge if you do not understand it.
You will fail in (expired on 2018-07-26 19:00:00)
The saboteurs will be given tips on how they can try and reset the count.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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This post has caused the count to be reset. The count starts again at 0 with this post.
Also, for those of you who aren't aware, BTD6_Maker is co-modding and may also resolve challenges. For this challenge, his function will likely simply be resetting the count.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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This post has caused the count to be reset. The count starts again at 0 with this post.
In post 10, teacher wrote:Question for more clarification, can we restart on our own or do we have to wait for a mod/co-mod?I will allow players to start the count from 0 again themselves but obviously incorrectly restarting from 0 will cause the count to be restarted anyway. If a player does restart the count I will still make a post stating which post caused the reset and which post restarted it (with my own post then including a number so that the mod always takes up the equivalent of the 0).I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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To clarify it literally is just counting, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... etc. Like y'all have been doing the last few posts. I have specified "consecutive sequence of 1". Each number in the post must be +1 from the previous to count. No more, no less.
And fyi void means ignore this post when taking into consideration the counting. Eg. previous post is 9 and the next will be 10.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 67, Pine wrote:Hi checking in I'm a bit V/LA going camping this weekend. Going to spend my data on maintaining urgent stuffThis post has caused the count to be reset. The count starts again at 0 with post 68. The count now continues from this post at 2 as a mod recognised reset.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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This post has caused the count to be reset. The count starts again at 0 with this post.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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void
void means ignore this post when taking into consideration the counting. Eg. the previous post is 2 and the next will be 3.
No. It's sole use is so that I can address things (eg. questions) without progressing the game state.
Feysal wrote:@Mod:
What happens if the count is messed up and no one notices until much later?
Also, is the limit of 13 posts per page ever reset? As in, would further posts by Irrelephant on this page reset the count again?As soon as I notice the error the count will be immediately reset. However, depending on the circumstance, I may allow the count to start from where it would have been if the error was noticed sooner.
And the limit of 13 IS reset from there since the count starts over. Same applies to 7 posts in a row. So no, further posts from Irrelephant would not reset the count again.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 95, Kokichi Oma wrote:ego post. ill read this tomorrowThis post has caused the count to be reset. The count started again at 0 with post 96. The count now continues from this post at 8 as a mod recognised reset.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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void means ignore this post when taking into consideration the counting. Eg. the previous post is 10 and the next will be 11
In post 106, teacher wrote:10In post 2, mutantdevle wrote:Mechanics- Once the phase is over, everyone's answers to the first 2 questions will be posted publically which is then concluded with a final vote count. Whoever has the most votes on them will then be lynched.
@Mod: Are we told who placed which votes (i.e., are the votes/reasoning associated with each slot)?Yes.Same.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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void means ignore this post when taking into consideration the counting. Eg. the previous post is 120 and the next will be 121.
Eyy I'm back Thanks to BTD6_Maker for getting everything done whilst I was gone :3 I will be prodding/replacing those who are yet to talk.
In post 127, Enigma wrote:14
@Mutant could you pls clarify the below
In post 79, Enigma wrote:6
@ Mod
Are we informed if the straws process doesn't happen in case of a tie (i.e. fortunate vote as tie breaker, or fortunate as part of the lynch pool)Players will vote. The vote count will be posted. If there is a tie, this will be obvious. If it has to go to short straws, you will be informed of this and time will be spent making this happen. If a tie is broken by a fortunate, then you will also be informed of this. You willnotbe informed if the tie was broken because one candidate was a fortunate or a fortunate voted for someone who tied.
So yes, you will know if a fortunate has caused a tie to be broken, but you won't know which ability the fortunate has that caused this.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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116This post caused the count to be reset. Posts 444 to 454 were invalid as they did not start from 0. The count started again at 0 with post 455.In post 457, Chickadee wrote:1This post caused the count to be reset. The count started again at 0 from post 458.In post 527, teacher wrote:67
my goodness if KO didnt feel like scum who had been told PEdit wont come up if they are submitted at the same time. :Eek:This post has caused the count to be reset. The count started again at 0 from post 528. The count now continues from this post at 116 as a mod recognised reset.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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"Your time is up!
You have passed.
You have passed, therefore one of you will become a fortunate.
But before I award the lucky unfortunate, who do you think the saboteur was?"Last edited by mutantdevle on Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:01 am, edited 1 time in total.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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"You must now vote for who you think is a sabotuer, and why?
Pine, who do you think is a saboteur?"
"I think NK15 is a saboteur, and will compromise there because I don't think I can get GL lynched. Lurky, low-contribution, and made a falsifiable case against me."
"teacher?"
"I'm votingNK,because it is aconsensus pick; provides an opportunity to assess Guilty's push. I really didnt like the spam count when we were really close to the limit, almost to deprive people of the ability to coordinate as he had emerged as a potential consensus slot rather than an also ran."
"Chickadee?"
"I'm voting forNK15becauseI'm trusting that a few of my town reads want this flip, mainly Irrelephant. I think some compelling reasons have been made for it, and I want to consolidate on something I think has a chance of going through."
"Myloninja13?"
"I'll vote for NotKnown15, as all of my townreads want them gone."
"Kokichi Oma?"
"I am voting NK15. I believe NK15 is likely scum with Pine. I'd have preferred Pine, but at the end of day everyone seemed to be wanting NK15 so that's fine as well."
"Prof Fridays?"
"I am votingMyloninja13becauseThe lack of substance and only a small amount of help toward the town win con makes me lean toward him as a good candidate for scum, plus a couple posts rubbed me the wrong way. But it's difficult with not much to go on."
"ofrhz?"
"I’m voting for Not Known 15 for his active lurking, not giving reads beyond a shallow “Kokichi could be scum for that count misstep” and also because he kept spamming counts near the end of day when we had stopped doing that to let everyone get the opportunity to chime in before end of day."
"northsidegal?"
"I'm voting forNot Known 15. i'm going to take this time to just talk about all of my reads in general as i haven't had the chance to say anything yet having replaced in after the thread was already locked.
first and foremost because above all else if people take anything away from what i think maybe it should be this: myloninja is, without a single doubt in my mind, town. i know how to tell town him from scum him; i've done it before based on barely any posts. trust me; he's town. he's probably my strongest townread (this situation is just like in open 729 if you'd like to check that, although that game is something of an embarrassment for me. if you ever read this, sorry scioness)
anyways, that being said, i'm going to give somewhat of a "readslist" here and talk about it a little bit:
Spoiler:
myloninja i've talked about. kokichi i feel pretty good about being town here - it first stood out to me reading posts 159 through 161, that he had a really relaxed and natural tone. beyond that, i think self-meta is a towntell, and i think everything he said in post 580 is a massive towntell. irrelephant is kind of just a gut townread, but it's also that i know that GL and irrelephant have played together before and GL townreads irrelephant, so looking past the scenario in which they're both scum i feel like i can trust that read there regardless of GL's alignment.
we'll come back to the "surface towny" group.
for "null", i originally actually had ofrhz as towny, but literally mid-organizing these reads it occurred to me that she really hadn't towntold as much as i thought she had. yes, 414 is a detailed post, but beyond that there really isn't all that much there. perhaps i'm just wrong here, but i tend to expect detailed thoughts from town ofrhz, but there's really just mostly counting. what really rubs me the wrong way is the lack of the progression up to the eventual NK15 vote. it comes withoutanyprior mention or indication of an nk15 scumread and, thinking on it more, really reads to me like scum just coming to agree on a mislynch. in the process of typing this paragraph it's occurred to me that maybe "null" is the wrong word to describe my read here.
i don't think randomidget requires much explanation; i'm pretty sure there's nothing AI one way or the other about his lurking, so...
i'm really not all that happy with the "who's left" group, and it's because it contains people that i know have a tendency to get misread and perhaps mislynched. this goes back to my "surface towny" group, actually - the "surface towny" group is people whose contributionslookfine on the surface, but i found it hard to actually look close and dig deep to see if it was actually towny or not. whether that's because of the counting or because i'm doing this late at night, i'm not sure. either way, the composition of my "who's left" group makes me especially paranoid of the people here.
so, that's kind of a broad overview of my reads - onto the vote, then. why nk15, after all that about paranoia reads and such? well it's two main reasons: first, despite nk15's somewhat lynchbait-y history, i don't think it'simpossiblethat he's scum here. his post detailing his reasons for wanting to lynch pine reminds me of a few of the posts he made as scum in mini normal 1999 - i feel like they kind of match in a little bit of an awkward tone, although that could just be nk15 in general (no offense).
for comparison:
Spoiler: this game
Spoiler: mini normal 1999
the second reason is just a matter of having my vote matter. i could try voting for ofrhz or someone, but it's unlikely that anyone else voted for her, so it wouldn't be meaningful. i would prefer nk15 lynched to chickadee, so if people are going to be voting chickadee then nk15 is a preferable alternative for me. additionally, despite what i said about my "who's left" group making me concerned, i don't exactlytownreadpine, but as compared to nk15 i don't really have any reasonsforhim to be scum."
"GuiltyLion?"
"I am voting for Not Known 15, because Irrelephant said so
jokes aside,
-like I said in my post 138, his intro post 99 felt needlessly melodramatic
-like I said in my post 184, his post 158 felt like ambiguous waffley shade that scum post when they are pretending to sort but don't actually believe in what they are saying
-he spam counted without providing content for long periods in the day - doubly incongruent with his intro post where he complained about a lack of info from this day/challenge
-then his last push was on Pine for an inaccurate and NAI reason (he spam counted but not to 5). When corrected on this, instead of re-evaluating he added more bs on top of that ("it feels like he doesn't want to count").
there's definitely a chance NK is town but I think he makes a good D1 lynch and fits in my POE lynchpool as I'm townreading Irrelephant, teacher, ofrhz, Kokichi, Enigma, Feysal and I think it will be useful to see where votes from the others (outside of that group) go."
"Irrelephant11?"
"I vote for NotKnown15
I think he took advantage of the challenge to try to look towny while avoiding providing alignment-indicative or helpful sorting content. I also thought his running up the count near EOD was to force other players to provide less AI content. Overall, nothing to suggest he's town and multiple things to suggest scum."
"Enigma?"
"I am voting forNK15because he wasLurking without contributions or content, slipping under the radar. Also, sheeping others "
"Feysal?"
"I'm votingNot Known 15. Already explained why in thread."
"Not Known 15, who do you think is a saboteur?"
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"You have voted for Not Known 15.
I can now reveal Not Known 15 was in fact a...
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"Not Known 15, how do you feel about being trapped?"
"Ifeel bad because I cannot remind people daily to take extreme care on townreading Irrelephant or teacher, especially Irrelephant who can look extremely towny only to show up as scum when they endgame you, andIdefinitelyamsad because I think that I am the counterwagon to Pine and Pine is scum - but also look at the numbers on the lynch votes and their reasonings."
"Poor unfortunate Not Know 15.
YOU'RE TRAPPED!"
"Poor old Not Known 15,
He only came here for fun.
But now his fun is over,
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"It's not only the challenge that can be sabotaged,
But also your passage that will be barraged.
Y'sees there was some trouble on the way to floor 2.
And now Teacher is trapped, oh boohoo!"
"Teacher, you have been trapped by the saboteurs and therefore will also not be leaving this room.
The rest of you are free to pass to the next floor.
Teacher, how do you feel about being trapped?"
"Thats what I get for obv towning. I dont have any insights that werent expressed during the day, but town should vover each other by all stepping up. That challenge should not have taken near the deadline."
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"Poor unfortunate Teacher.
YOU'RE TRAPPED!"
"Poor little Teacher,
He thought the day was done.
So maybe it's unfair,
That he's trapped on floor 1!"Last edited by mutantdevle on Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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"FLOOR 2!"
"Traditional Terrors"
"This one is sures to be nostalgics!
When given the choice of three to choose,
Knowing only one will win and the other two lose,
How do you decide which choice will be right?
As choose too fast and it will soon become night.
In this challenge, unfortunates are given the choice to pick the number 1, 2 or 3.
Each time, two of the numbers will be bad and only one will be good.
Choose a good number and you will gain a point, but choose a bad number and the saboteurs will gain a point!
Each side only needs 2 points to win. So choose very carefully!"
"Unfortunates! To pass, you must pick 2 good numbers instead of 2 bad numbers.
Let the challenge begin...
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Some clarification.
Anyonemay choose the number by simply boldingChoose: #.
Each time, the good number will be randomised. The other 2 will be bad. Possible combinations:1 23,123or12 3.
This will be best of 3. This means that you must guess correctly twice to pass or guess incorrectly twice to fail.
Now is the time to ask questions about the challenge if you do not understand it.
This challenge has no time limit so the length of the day is decided on how long it takes for the guesses to be made.
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In post 1085, Pine wrote:Fuck it. Rolled a d3 on my dice app. It’s random luck and I don’t trust anyone as much as I trust myself.
Choose: 3"This number is abadnumber! Choose wrong again and you will fail the challenge. Choose correctly next time and you are still in with a chance!
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In post 1244, Pine wrote:Mmkay.
I’m not waiting for NSG. She’s been mostly absent and has had time to respond.
Going with 2. It hasn’t shown up yet, and while that is a shit reason for guessing it, there aren’t any good reasons.
Choose: 2
I’m voting Enigma, fyi
PE: My new phone makes unnecessary word-completion guesses all the time. I usually catch them (two in this post alone), but I must have missed that one. Your penchant for latching onto tiny things and making them into conspiracies is weird.
"Unfortunates, you have failed.
Miserably!"
"Looks like theys got anotherbadnumber..."
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"You must now vote for who you think is a sabotuer, and why?
Pine, who do you think is a saboteur?"
"I think Enigma is our best bet for saboteur. I still really want to vote GL, or perhaps Kokichi, but Enigma is pinging me hard right and there's momentum to prosecute now. Bird in the hand versus two in the bush, I suppose.
I feel I've made my case on Enigma, but in summary, it's a lot of odd behavior that rings alarm bells on a gut level. Some of it's hard to quantify, like attitude and lack of motivation to get stuff done, but the really damning thing in my opinion is Enigma's total lack of hard positions. Practically everything has been qualified or retractable, as if they're choosing their words very carefully so as not to perturb anyone. Town oughtn't be concerned with that, they ought be concerned with detection and prosecution of their reads."
"Chickadee?"
"Orfzh because I don't want to vote elsewhere in the lynch pool. Obviously I will not be voting myself. And I feel like Enigma has some interesting interactions going, and I would like to see some of that pan out more.
"Myloninja13?"
"I'll vote alongside my townreads once more by voting Enigma."
"Kokichi Oma?"
"I am voting for Enigma. I think I made it clear why earlier, but I think his posting style and his way of lurking indicates he is scum."
"Prof Fridays?"
"Iwillvote for ofhrz, as I think he's most probably scum, though I would expect if ofhrz is scum that he and his scum-buddies might team up on Enigma to ensure he's lynched instead. We shall see, though."
"ofrhz?"
"i'm voting chickadeebecauseprof fridays is my first choice, but I don't think there's a whole lot of people who will vote for him."
"FA_Q2?"
"I'm voting forChickadeebecauseChick has not made a single post that was substantive until they were under the chopping block and even then has simply refused to actually take a stance on anyone. Early they tried to cozy up to irrelephant and that still does not sit well with me. 751 was almost to scummy to be scum (calling to essentially PL and never trying to hunt). It would also lead straight to enigma if he flips scum. Irrelepahant also laid a good case out (and mentions 751 as well). "
"GuiltyLion?"
"I am voting for ofrhzbecauseI think the entirety of their D2 has been focused on pushing Prof Fridays and asking 'why me' questions towards the scumreads on her, with little-to-no commentary on anything else. She does not feel like a townie who is genuinely invested in the game or genuinely trying to scumhunt, she is coasting, and I have no real reason to believe she is town compared to most of the other players.
I also do not want to vote for Enigma tonight, because if ofrhz is scum and if Enigma happens to be lynchbait, then I think scum will go in to vote Enigma instead. I think the angles between ofrhz-Prof Fridays-Enigma are worth noting -> ofrhz is tunneling on Prof Fridays who seems to be mostly ignoring it, Prof Fridays is defending Enigma for bizarre and hardly justifiable reasons, and Enigma has avoided commentary on both altogether. Definitely at least one scum in here if not two."
"Irrelephant11?"
"I'm voting for chickadee. She's in my lynchpool, vote ties are good for town (seems like there will be a number of votes for enigma already), and I don't have time this game night to re-read & analyze who in my lynchpool is absolutely the *best* lynch."
"Enigma?"
"I am votingChickadee because of self-preservation, but I actually want to vote Pine."
"Feysal?"
"I am voting forProf Fridays
I gave my reasons in my post 1040. I considered Ofrhz, mostly because consolidating votes would help keep our fortunate secret, and because his flip would at least force people to reconsider their reads if he was town. But no. Prof Fridays is who I suspect more.
I also tried to meta read Prof Fridays, but did not find much to go on. However, looking at his performance in Fallout Mafia, which he just won after replacing in as scum, does nothing to ease my suspicion. He is apparently completely capable of masquerading as town."I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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"You have voted for Chickadee
I can now reveal Chickadee was in fact a...
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"Chickadee, you successfully sabotaged the challenge but you were detected. Therefore you will not be leaving this room.
How do you feel about being trapped?"
"Iwillencourage town to look at GuiltyLion. More than once he's been accused of twisting people's words. I find that interesting. Even his line of questioning about my timing seems to be poking at something to make it much bigger and confusing for people to look at"
"Poor unfortunate Chickadee.
YOU'RE TRAPPED!"
Poor little Chickadee,
She bit off more than she could chew.
She made herself obvious
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"Voting right may came at a cost,
As yet another innocent is lost.
FA_Q2 was trapped on the way to floor 3,
Sadly now, he'll never be free."
"FA_Q2, you have been trapped by the saboteurs and therefore will also not be leaving this room.
The rest of you are free to pass to the next floor.
FA_Q2, how do you feel about being trapped?"
"I feel much as Friday pointed out day one - shortest ever stand in. Really, 24 hours and one death post lol. Thatisnot be cool at all. As far as the gamestate:
GLI have a town read on GL. Enigma's case on him is weak. His hunting does not feel forced to me. Lots of engagement.
IrrelepahntTown. I like how he has been engaging and seems to be genuinely scum hunting.
FeysalTown. Not seeing anything scummy here and he feels genuine.
Kokichi OmaScum lean. 420 felt like hedging should they want to screw up a challenge. Lots of using mechanics to scum hunt w/o actually scum hunting. Made a few good points on pine and suddenly started acting town at 733. Not sure how to take that considering the earlier posts.
Pinelean scum. The number picking was utter garbage. I tend to tunnel play that I think is garbage though so take that for what it is worth. I don't really see anything from this slot that looks like genuine town. Overall, pine seems more interested in defending themselves rather than finding scum. That is a scummy thing to do.
Enigmalean Scum. Lots of whining here and excuses for not hunting (140 complaining how the day was going to be 'boring') feels like covering for bad play that he knows is coming. Also feels pretty defensive. Going after GL gives him some town points but not enough to cover for the rest.
ofrhzScum. Started with neutral when I was putting this together but the more I think on it the more he feels like scum. There is some good content in his iso but I do not see any reaction when he pushes and asks questions but is ignored. That feels like he actually does not care about the answers - just wants to appear to be hunting. 1016 is a stand out example here - he calls out Friday for several reasons and asks directly about reasoning behind friday's reads. Friday does not respond at all and ofrhz does not seem to even notice. I would not be surprised if these 2 were a scum team.
Prof FridaysScum. Not really keen on his lynch choice. Feels like he just did not want to be on the mislynch with his scum buddies. 1235 was bad. REALLY bad. What possible town reason would there be to refuse to put a case on a player you are scum reading?
MyloninjaScum. No content here at all. Very bad reasoning when there is a 'read' and overall not adding anything to the hunt.
I know I have a lot of scum here but there are just a lot of players that seem scummy in this game. Had to do this really fast - about an hour so I will expand more during day and try to be more clear with some of my reads if there are any questions."
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"Poor unfortunate FA_Q2.
YOU'RE TRAPPED!"
"Poor FA_Q2,
He bit off more than he could chew,
And although he just got here,
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"FLOOR 3!"
"Perilous Passwords"
"This is perfect for a chatterbox.
There's a list of words that has been created,
As passwords to a floor that is locked and gated.
Guessing these 9 words will be no walk in the park,
As for unfortunates it'll be a stab in the dark!
For this challenge, a list of 9 words has been created.
If anyone uses any of the words then they will be crossed off the list.
No clues will be given as to what these words are.
To pass, all 9 words must be checked off the list."
"Unfortunates! To pass, you must have checked all 9 words off the list at the end of 1 week.
Let the challenge begin...
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Some clarification:
Only 1 person has to use the word for it to be crossed off the list.
The word must be spelt correctly to be crossed off.
Grammar is irrelevant. Eg, "their's" would be accepted for "their".
When a word is crossed off the list, the post that caused this to happen will be identified. However, it will not be revealed what the word was.
Now is the time to ask questions about the challenge if you do not understand it.
You will fail in (expired on 2018-08-31 16:00:00)
The saboteurs are told exactly what all the words are.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 1265, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Would "unidentified" work for "identified"? Would "pineapple" work for "apple"?In post 1263, mutantdevle wrote:Grammar is irrelevant. Eg, "their's" would be accepted for "their".No.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 1267, Irrelephant11 wrote:@mutant can the word be inside a spoiler
Spoiler: words related to fairy tales"This post has checked1word off the list. 8 remaining."
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In post 1268, ofrhz wrote:If password is in quoted text, does it still countNo.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 1271, Irrelephant11 wrote:
sorry @mutant if this is rude but as feedback for any similar future games: last game day and this one give town very little agency...In post 1264, Irrelephant11 wrote:Any chance the first three challenges just *happen* to be the three least fun?
Like at least if it were "one of these three words ismagicaland if you as a group say it more than the other two than you get through!" then town could feel like we were *doing* something, and maybe read into what scum did post-flips. As it is it feels like both these game days are mostly just stumbling in the darkFeedback is more than appreciated but it would probably be best to save it until post game.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 1273, Enigma wrote:Hi wasn't expecting to still be here and I had spent a bit of time finding a nice I told you so meme, bit sad no one gets to see it
Glad that my suspicions on Chickadee played out true, I tend to get a bit distracted and tunnel, and end up skimming over other parts. Have a bit more of an idea about the game state now so some more clarity on reads ... finally, as requested
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Irrelephant: I like his vote reasoning from last night with the parity and that it led to scum being lynched, considering the various wagons happening. Tbh I was expecting him to be NKed. Considering how widely town read he is becoming, if he is alive in LYLO it will be a headfuck.
Ofrhz: I resonate quite a bit with her vote from last night. 1272 follows my chain of thought, being in the same wagon position. Similar to ofrhz, I feel like scum would tend avoid the chickadee wagon given the viability of ofrhz and myself as counter wagons, so ofrhz's vote on chickadee gives town points.
Feysal: Similar reasoning to ofrhz's post above
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Pine: Tbh, I was originally feeling town on this slot but the number thing (and sequencing of guesses) was a bit too convenient and felt like a show by the end of it. The way he was explicit about who is was voting (me) felt like a way to encourage/persuade others to jump onto my wagon, rather than letting others make up their own mind (I've mentioned previously why I think this is a bad thing for town). Chickadee flipping scum further cements the read.
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That's enough for now, the others are a bit null to me. A few other random comments
I don't know what to make of chickadee's will on GL right now. Combine my read on Pine with Pine's interaction with GL (I don't think it is SvS) makes me want to think of GL as town, but don't really want to yet ahaha.
Gut maybe scum on PF based on associations with who I TR.
Not sure about Kokichi and Mylo. Hard to read. Less likely to be scum if Pine flips scum based on last night's vote."This post has checked2words off the list. 6 remaining."Last edited by mutantdevle on Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:09 am, edited 1 time in total.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 1280, Enigma wrote:Lol got two already.
@mutant
Are these words chosen randomly (i.e. you opened a dictionary closed your eyes and dropped your finger) or did you choose them?
The line of thinking is are we expecting common terminology one would be expected to use on the forum and we don't really have to try, or just random strange words that we will unlikely use and we actively need to try to expand our vocab. I'm suspecting the former since we have two already.I'm not going to answer this. (no clues are to be given).I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 1281, Enigma wrote:If a word is already crossed off, will another post with that same word trigger an identification again?No.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 1297, Irrelephant11 wrote:Okay so
Enigma only gets like one town point for voting Chickadee
I made my case last game day for enigma/chickadee being a realistic scumteam and I mostly stand by it. Bussing is a thing
On the other hand I'll give enigma one more town point for saying that his vote was because of "self-preservation"
I also don't think he says "I want to vote Pine" in his vote if they're the remaining two scum
So it's only one of the two of them (or potentially none but I do happen to think both have played pretty scummy)
Keeping Guilty in my townblock makes the game make the most sense - especially because scum died last night. If enough flips surprised me, I'd turn my head, but for now I think he's still just town
I'll leave mylo for mylo because nsg
I don't think two scum voted for chickadee when other options were viable (and even seemed more likely) so that means at most one of enigma/ofrhz. Also the fact that Ofrhz AND enigma said they kinda wanted to vote elsewhere is interesting. It's slightly towny and DEFINITELY not something two scum say while bussing their partner. Prolly not even what one scum says while bussing their partner? Because then they don't even really get towncred for the accuracy/detail of their read
Agreed with others' reasons to townread Feysal after that votecount
If enigma is town I'd bet it's two of Pine/Kokichi/Prof
If enigma is scum I'd bet it's with Prof Fridays
This has gotten a little messy. I'm somewhere like here:
Me
Guilty
Feysal
Ofrhz
Myloninja
Enigma
Kokichi
Prof
Pine
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In post 1352, Enigma wrote:@ Mod, could you please just pop in every 1/2 days, even if it is to confirm we haven't ticked off any new numbersI'm not going to post in this thread at regular intervals, sorry.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 1356, Feysal wrote:Is it possible to change your last will during the night phase, after the lynch?Not after the lynch, no. However, players may write a new will / change who they are voting by just sending another PM during the voting phase.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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