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Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:16 pm

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mod. V/la until next Thursday


VOTE: the worst
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Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:45 am

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Couple more for the worst. Let’s just roll with it.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:52 am

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What’s that movie again? I’ve got to check it out
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Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:36 am

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People should change their mindset when getting VTs. That’s the role you can go all out without fear of dying
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Post Post #28 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:22 am

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In post 26, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 24, Gustavo wrote:People should change their mindset when getting VTs. That’s the role you can go all out without fear of dying
It's the role where literally your only jobs are to make yourself look town and find scum. That's it lol. VTs make or break games.
Don’t like the format or the fact more people aren’t voting the worst but thank you for the VC
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:18 am

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In post 30, Lalendra wrote:
In post 28, Gustavo wrote:Don’t like the format or the fact more people aren’t voting the worst but thank you for the VC
Why are you so gung ho about voting the worst at this point? They are at L-3 and they've only made 3 posts, 2 of which were fluff and 1 was just questions. They haven't advanced anything that justifies a vote in my mind.
Idk. Just feel like pressuring somebody and he’s the largest. Sometimes you have the shake a tree and see what falls out.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:29 am

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Technically it’s l-2 if you read the unofficial vote count. I have no issues with that vote.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:58 am

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In post 59, Lalendra wrote:
In post 46, ofrhz wrote:
In post 36, Lalendra wrote:Sorry, 33.

Also UNVOTE: since we're pretty clearly out of RVS.
I don’t understand why you unvoted here
Because it was an RVS vote and we're out of RVS, like I said.
But just cause we’re out of rvs, doesn’t mean you have to unvote.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:23 am

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In post 70, Lalendra wrote:
In post 62, ofrhz wrote:
In post 59, Lalendra wrote: Because it was an RVS vote and we're out of RVS, like I said.
In post 23, Lalendra wrote:VOTE: GuerrillaWoo for reading wayyyy too much into that early post. I think it came across as a legit VT who is disappointed that they didn't get a PR, which I can totally empathize with.
I might be misunderstanding. Was this earlier vote not serious? If not, what's your read on Guerilla?
Guerilla's later posts made me think that he is probably just not a very serious player, tonally, and that I need to see more of him before I assume he's scum.
That doesn’t really make sense though. Your unvote implied your first vote was rvs which it wasn’t.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:11 pm

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In post 96, Oath wrote:Guerilla is town.
TChill is scum.

Let's all party.
why Is tchill scum?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:13 pm

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In post 99, Tchill13 wrote:One guy says I'm scum. One guy says I'm obv town. 8 other players haven't given their opinion. Why does your opinion matter more than osuka's?
I’m leaning towards town myself. Oath is nuts, trolling, or scum.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:24 am

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Hi guys. Chicago is beautiful in the morning.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:54 pm

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In post 285, Tchill13 wrote:Fake day vigs are *puts on sun glasses* the worst.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:25 pm

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You are lame. I’m v/la. What’s your excuse?
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Post Post #330 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:42 pm

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In post 298, Mumble wrote:
In post 297, Gustavo wrote:You are lame. I’m v/la. What’s your excuse?
For what? Playing?

Put your v/la tags up if you expect me to know you are v/la.

Still, I wonder why you randomly insert a vid as v/la unless you are actually following the game.
For being lame. To insult me when I’m clearly on v/la as per my first vote of the game is not only lame, it’s a douchebag move. So what is your excuse?
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Post Post #331 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:43 pm

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In post 302, Tchill13 wrote:Gus seems to be lurking but is VLA so that doesn't matter. Is it just weekends gus?
I’m v/la til Thursday.
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Post Post #445 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:29 am

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You guys are going to make it super hard for me to catch-up. Tchill. Can I get a summary?
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Post Post #556 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:49 pm

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What was weird about it?
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Post Post #581 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:30 am

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Lalendra is town. Tchill is probably town also. Mumble and tw are both bad, bad scum or bad town idk. I’d be fine with taco being fine from the game also. Anyone who thought the day kill was real pings me because by now everyone should know those aren’t allowed.

VOTE: mumble

Him trying to use my v/la against me is very bad, he also single handily lost a game for town so I know he’s a liability. I don’t even care what his alignment is this game. He needs to be gone because I’m not going to let him cost me this game.
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Post Post #584 (isolation #19) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:45 am

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I’m cool being policy lynched.

She’s town because I feel her posts come off as genuine. The only bad post I see is the unvote and in the big scheme of things that’s nothing.

Mumble tried to use my v/la against me. I don’t see town doing that so that’s where I’m parking my vote for the day.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:47 am

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It’s funny you ask me why she’s town yet you haven’t given a reason for why she’s scum despite coming in and saying it from the get go.

If you are town you should be more transparent.
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Post Post #587 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:50 am

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In post 487, Yuurei wrote:Oh, and I'm pretty sure that Lalendra is kind of naturally wolfy sometimes so I'm not as strong there although at face value Lalendra has better chances of flipping red than Taco

but dunno really
Like this post is bad.

You are basically saying she’s naturally wolfy which means you can’t read her as either alignment but somehow she’s more likely to flip scum over taco.

If you are town making this post, you’re playing like shit
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Post Post #591 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:53 am

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In post 586, Mumble wrote:Where did I use your v/la against you? I said it was lame. And it was. If you have time to pop into the thread and make an offhanded comment, you should probably use that time to do something more productive.
That was the instance. If town it was shit. I’m v/la and you don’t know what I do and don’t have time for. You should respect the fact I’m v/la and stfu about my lack of contribution.

I can’t contribite if I haven’t read anything. You didn’t even ask me if I had read anything or not. I fell like town would have at least asked that. So I’m good with my vote.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:53 am

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In post 588, Mumble wrote:Why are you being such an ass to people?
Because I’m an asshole obviously
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Post Post #593 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:55 am

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In post 590, Yuurei wrote:
In post 585, Gustavo wrote:It’s funny you ask me why she’s town yet you haven’t given a reason for why she’s scum despite coming in and saying it from the get go.

If you are town you should be more transparent.
like...I've explained almost all of my reads up until now. and in detail.

if I didn't explain Lalendra until now was because I thought there was no need (Ceejay and Ofrhz for example raised most of my points to her being scummy), neither people asked me to.
That’s a shit excuse. You definitely have to explain your scum reads MORE than any other read. I don’t care why you town read people. I care why you scum read poeple.

Do better if you are town
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Post Post #594 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:56 am

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So write a case for lalendra.

Then flush it down the toilet cause it’s shit. She’s town
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Post Post #596 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:58 am

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Don’t use meta.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:06 am

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In post 598, Mumble wrote:How long til you make another alt because you get called out for toxicity...
Idk what you’re talking about. My main was abandoned about 3 years ago
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Post Post #601 (isolation #28) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:07 am

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In post 599, Yuurei wrote:It would be funny if Lalendra flips scum though
She won’t. I can guarantee it
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Post Post #602 (isolation #29) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:13 am

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If there has been toxicity here, it’s from you mumble. You took a cheap shot at me and I called you on it. Now you don’t like that I voted you for it.

In the real world, there are consequences for your actions.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:29 am

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What was the point of voting me again? You were already voting me
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Post Post #607 (isolation #31) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:31 am

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In post 605, Mumble wrote:
@mod: I retract replace out


I just won't be acknowledging any posts from Gustavo containing insults. I can manage that.

VOTE: Gustavo

Let's get a wagon going.
Pretty sure I didn’t insult you. You insulted me
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Post Post #609 (isolation #32) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:42 am

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Double checked. I didn’t insult mumble. He did ask why I was being an add which I take as an insult.
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Post Post #610 (isolation #33) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:43 am

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*ass
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Post Post #616 (isolation #34) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:42 am

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In post 613, ofrhz wrote:
In post 556, Gustavo wrote:What was weird about it?
It felt like an overreaction to what mumble actually said

It was an unnecessary dig at me. I’m going to call that stuff out. Surprised more people didn’t.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #35) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:58 am

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Now look. He’s basically implied I’m being an ass and called me toxic when I haven’t been. I don’t see town doing any of that.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #36) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:16 am

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In post 608, Yuurei wrote:Lalendra being scum makes sense for a game state reason to be honest
You still haven’t given reasons why you scum read her. That’s super anti-town
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Post Post #622 (isolation #37) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:25 am

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The fact Yuurei won’t commit to putting reasons down for scum lavendera definitely pings me. Town should be transparent and he’s not.

I’m hoping he does in his next post. I really want to see it.

It’s also odd that he’s not questioning anyone else for their town reads. Why single me out? It comes when I go after mumble.

Scum team? If one flips scum I’ll definitely lean that way
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Post Post #628 (isolation #38) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:53 am

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In post 623, Tchill13 wrote:Explain your lalendra scum game state thought. How could that possibly have anything to do with the game state?
I don’t understand this.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #39) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:24 am

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In post 626, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 617, Gustavo wrote:Now look. He’s basically implied I’m being an ass and called me toxic when I haven’t been. I don’t see town doing any of that.
Stop. Take a moment. Breathe the fresh air. DO NOT lock horns with somebody because they're playing emotionally and not with towns best interest in mind.

As soon as you figure out personal digs and name calling is NAI you'll be better off. No, town has no reason to do that. An upset player has reason to do that though as either alignment so you can't get a read based off that.
But he’s the kind of player tht makes an acceptable lynch regardless of his alignment. He’s not going to help town. I doubt his earlier posts have been helpful.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #40) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:25 am

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VOTE: yurei
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Post Post #660 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:25 am

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In post 651, Yuurei wrote:Too much chainsaw defending that I don't think that comes from SvS here.
Coming from you, this makes me laugh.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:37 am

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In post 662, Yuurei wrote:If there is three,
99% likely it’s 3 given the rule changes.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #43) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:40 am

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In post 662, Yuurei wrote:Lalendra is almost confirmed town
This is a very weird stance considering you’ve basically been scum reading her since you’ve replaced in without any justification for that read...

And when asked you say you need time? Seems to me like you need to make up something.

You should know why you scum read somebody off the top of your head.
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Post Post #665 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:41 am

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Everyone needs to trust me here. Yuurei is confirmed scum
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Post Post #670 (isolation #45) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:48 am

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In post 669, Yuurei wrote:hi I'm Yuurei, a human that has a real life as well and can't post in mafiascum.net 24/7
Yet you’ve been posting and haven’t explained your scum read yet. That should be easy to do off the top of your head.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #46) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:48 am

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In post 669, Yuurei wrote:My scum read on Lalendra though is already explained in 655
Somehow missed that post. My apologies.

I’ll read it soon.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #47) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:08 am

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In post 655, Yuurei wrote:based on her experience I think that she would probably know here that it was about creating a wagon and not really because of a read
You shouldn’t assume. That isn’t really AI anyway. Feels nit picky to me.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #48) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:33 am

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In post 655, Yuurei wrote:again I expect her to know with her experience that early wagons are hardly lynched or have any intention of lynching someone. It casts shade on Tchill with arguments I wouldn't expect to come from her.
I disagree with this. Scum would be elated at that. Pushing tchill there isn’t bad play
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Post Post #679 (isolation #49) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:34 am

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In post 655, Yuurei wrote:I've never seen someone unvote a wagon with one or two votes just because RVS ended. Not only that, she states half a reason to vote Guerilla and afterwards claim that it was RVS.
The unvote was weird, I’ll give you that but I don’t see how or why scum would do that.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #50) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:37 am

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In post 655, Yuurei wrote:Now, excluding Lalendra recent posts that seem a lot more townish (and that didn't exist while we were discussing our reads on her),
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Post Post #682 (isolation #51) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:00 am

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Guys. I’m 2 shot day cop. Yuri is scum. Lalendra is town. Lynch him.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #52) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:46 am

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In post 684, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 682, Gustavo wrote:Guys. I’m 2 shot day cop. Yuri is scum. Lalendra is town. Lynch him.
Where was this action performed and why?

For the sake of transparency I'd like to say something about play from your main account. I can't prove it's your main account therefore I doubt it would progress anything. If yuurie is town here and you're VT you will be black listed.

VOTE: yuurei
There goes my town read on you. You should know that 2 shot day cop where both shots can be used on the same day wouldn’t ever pass normal review. I appreciate the vote but you should know that was a joke.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #53) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:52 am

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You don’t know my main. Please stop comparing me to somebody else. I know who you think I am, but that’s not me.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #54) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:53 am

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I don’t scum read you but I don’t trust you anymore.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:09 am

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In post 695, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 692, Gustavo wrote:I don’t scum read you but I don’t trust you anymore.
Looks like teamwork is gonna go over well here :]
You are too smart to believe my claim. I’m now no longer sure we are on the same team.
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Post Post #711 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:51 am

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In post 710, ceejayvinoya wrote:I'm thinking mumble's irritation to Gustavos 'toxicity' is genuine, idk if that makes him more town than scum tho.
What are your thoughts about the fact there was no actual toxicity from me? If anyone was toxic it was him
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Post Post #713 (isolation #57) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:55 am

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What could he have been insulted by? Where did I insult him?
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Post Post #716 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:01 pm

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In post 714, ceejayvinoya wrote:Lols you really had no idea? Wait lemme quote it
I’m honestly clueless what I did to insult him. He insulted me. I saw that one.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #59) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:02 pm

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In post 715, Yuurei wrote:
In post 713, Gustavo wrote:What could he have been insulted by? Where did I insult him?
just stop it

seriously
In post 714, ceejayvinoya wrote: Wait lemme quote it
you don't need really

not is going to come out of it. It's totally NAI regardless of Mumble's alignment
I would like to apologize if I actually said something to personally insult him.
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Post Post #720 (isolation #60) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:08 pm

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Ok. From his POV I could see what he’s saying but i think he’s playing it up for effect. The typical response to calling someone lame is to respond with the same.

My opinion of his play is what it is. If that insulted him somehow, as I told him in that game, he needs to improve. I don’t see that improvement yet so I can’t apologize for that.

I’ll now move on. Him and you remain my top scum reads and you chainsaw defending him kind of adds to that thought. Time will tell for sure.
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Post Post #722 (isolation #61) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:32 pm

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Go read the post game comments of that game. Look who got the most blame for the loss.

That’s all I’m saying on it anymore.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #62) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:12 pm

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But I don’t really have any experience with you. One ongoing which can’t be discussed
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Post Post #748 (isolation #63) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:53 am

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In post 654, Lalendra wrote:I can go for Tommy being scum, thank you Yuurei and Tchill for the breakdown in your reads.

VOTE: Tommy
Can you help me understand what I’m missing. Why do people scum read tommy?

What are your reads of tchill and yuri?
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Post Post #753 (isolation #64) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:17 pm

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Man I really have day 1. Can we end this already so scum can nk me?
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Post Post #755 (isolation #65) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:25 pm

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Y’all lynch whoever
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Post Post #764 (isolation #66) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:46 pm

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VOTE: osuka
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Post Post #769 (isolation #67) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:45 am

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I’d be down for a tchill lynch.
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Post Post #770 (isolation #68) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:01 am

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In post 225, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 223, ofrhz wrote:I didn’t like how tommy didn’t try to discern antitown vs scum behavior wrt oath

I’m not sure how he feels wrt guerilla
Exactly. He didn't discern at all.

There is ZERO weight to a vote that doesn't matter. Oath is not in danger of being lynched or No where near. Remove the vote and both are pretty fence sitty imo.
Can either of you explain why this actually matters? Somebody doing something anti-town is good enough reason to vote them, especially day one, and definitely early day 1.

This is a terrible reason to scum read somebody.


I’m trying to figure out where this tommy wagon came from and I’m up to 3 votes on him and still don’t see a good one.
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Post Post #771 (isolation #69) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:10 am

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Man nobody has had a good reason for a tommy vote. Everyone who is town and didn’t give reasons should be ashamed for playing so poorly. Smh
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Post Post #772 (isolation #70) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:12 am

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Going back to my strongest scum read. Too many lurkers to even deal with lurkers.

VOTE: yuri
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Post Post #773 (isolation #71) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:15 am

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His reads don’t make sense, it was like pulling teeth trying to get him to explain one of his scum reads, he chainsaw defended mumble who i also scum read and criticized somebody else for chainsaw defending, his only questions my town read on lalendra but nobody else.

This all reeks of scum to me. Hopefully people agree. If not idgaf
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Post Post #813 (isolation #72) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:15 pm

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In post 775, Yuurei wrote:ok, we lynch "whoever" but instead of lynching tommy you...:
What part of y’all did you not understand?

Y’all = you all. That doesn’t mean me. I vote people who I want to lynch or pressure. Those people unfortunately aren’t who y’all want to lynch so I’m saying I’m not joining on that lynch.

Why would I vote tommy anyway? Not a single person had a good reason to vote him. Then he got sick and y’all have no sympathy or even a willingness to let a replacement come in.

I’m good with my vote thanks.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:18 pm

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In post 775, Yuurei wrote:he insists that I "hard defended" Mumble when that's clearly horse shit.
I don’t think I ever said “hard defended”

I said chainsaw defended which isn’t horseshit. As soon as I vote mumble you vote me and attack me for nothing. That sure looks like chainsaw to me.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #74) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:20 pm

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In post 775, Yuurei wrote:Gustavo are you really town here? I'm beginning to think you aren't tbh
Of course I am. I don’t really give a crap what you think because you are essentially confirmed to me scum.
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Post Post #816 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:25 pm

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In post 782, the worst wrote:actually no one feels like a great lynch right now
Yuri does. Join me for a scum lynch and town cred.
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Post Post #817 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:26 pm

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In post 791, Yuurei wrote:your townies points lowered a bit here tbh. You seem to have no interest in anything but Tchill
This shit is why you are scum. That isn’t town thinking.
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Post Post #818 (isolation #77) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:27 pm

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In post 792, Yuurei wrote:There's probably at least one scum here:

[Gus, Ceejay, Osuka]
The fact you still say I’m possible scum right now is HUGE scum flags. Clearly people should have picked up on what I’m laying down.
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Post Post #819 (isolation #78) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:28 pm

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In post 798, ofrhz wrote:why did you vote osuka here?
Lowest poster in the game. Lurkers suck
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Post Post #820 (isolation #79) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:28 pm

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In post 798, ofrhz wrote:also voting for someone just because they're anti-town in the absence of other scum-indicative behavior is really weak and should only be used as a last resort
Completely disagree with this.
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Post Post #821 (isolation #80) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:30 pm

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In post 802, Yuurei wrote:btw before I go, I'm super down to a Gustavo lynch today guys.
Yet no vote and you vote somebody else...
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Post Post #822 (isolation #81) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:33 pm

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Guys please sheep me. If he doesn’t flip scum I’ll even vote myself tomorrow
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Post Post #823 (isolation #82) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:45 pm

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The funny thing is yuri doesn’t even have a reason to think I’m scum. He’s given nothing that’s AI for me. Nothing that’s AI for
The person everyone thinks I am either (which I’m not and it’s really fucking annoying)

His hop on a wagon over me who he just said he’s sure is scum is highly suspicious.

Please please trust me. I’m desperate for this lynch. I’ll do anything to make it happen
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Post Post #830 (isolation #83) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:12 pm

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When I’m nk’d tonight please listen to me tomorrow. There just isn’t enough time I guess. Yuri is scum tho for realz
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Post Post #833 (isolation #84) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:14 pm

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I’m a Mason. Lynch yuri please.

There my cards are on the table. It was obvious as fuck but now it’s out.

Lynch yuri
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Post Post #836 (isolation #85) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 830, Gustavo wrote:When I’m nk’d tonight please listen to me tomorrow. There just isn’t enough time I guess. Yuri is scum tho for realz
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Post Post #839 (isolation #86) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:15 pm

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In post 837, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 833, Gustavo wrote:I’m a Mason. Lynch yuri please.

There my cards are on the table. It was obvious as fuck but now it’s out.

Lynch yuri
Whyyyyy. You were not gonna get lynched damn it.
Cause I want to lynch scum and I need town to fucking listen to me
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Post Post #843 (isolation #87) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:17 pm

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In post 826, Espeonage wrote:Deadline is in about 8 days.
Smh I thought this said 8 hours.

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Post Post #844 (isolation #88) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:18 pm

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I’m day cop Mason. Dude he’s flipping red. I promise.
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Post Post #879 (isolation #89) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:25 pm

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In post 849, Yuurei wrote:
In post 833, Gustavo wrote:I’m a Mason. Lynch yuri please.

There my cards are on the table. It was obvious as fuck but now it’s out.

Lynch yuri
is this some kind of bait to get the night kill?

it's hilariously bad comparing what you lose and gain by doing this if you're fakeclaiming

it's better just to be a fakeclaim like I think though because if it's a serious claim idk what to say to you if not that this is becoming a shitshow
No it’s real. I’m so sure you’re scum because of your earlier actions and then you clearly ignoring the obvious Mason hint. Town needs to lynch you. If not today, tomorrow when I’m dead.

If you’re town, well damn you sucked so hard this game. Never as town refuse to explain your scum read after being asked a couple of times and then say you need time to explain them. That’s bullishit
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Post Post #893 (isolation #90) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:18 pm

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In post 883, Yuurei wrote:I don't even care if you scum read me or not at this point, being logical and reasonable is all I ask of you.
I tried logical and reasonable. Then you refused to explain your scum read on me. Then when I saw you criticize somebody else for chainsaw defending somebody it made me laugh cause you were guilt of it. Then I just started adding all the scummy things you did together and then noticed how when I hard defended lavendera out of the blue and she did the same for me you didn’t pick up on that as a huge sign.

Then instead of voting me you hopped on another shitty wagon (yes the cej wagon is shitty, regardless of alignment).

So I’m done using logic. Clearly that doesn’t work or else I wouldn’t have had to do what I did. Logic doesn’t work on any of the other games I play either. What’s worse is people are still treating you like you are confirmed town when you are hands down the scummiest person in the game imo.

So what’s done is done but if town doesn’t lynch you today, then I’m happy with what I did cause i won’t have to sit around and watch town lose as they ignore my reads and let you live tomorrow also.

I’m done with this game for now. I’ll be back when I get prodded.
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Post Post #923 (isolation #91) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:15 am

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In post 922, ofrhz wrote:welcome boris!
In post 921, Boris wrote:
In post 918, osuka wrote:ofrhz slight townlean. mostly a hunch, but some tonal and thought cues
ftr these are the 2 key ways to misread ofrhz
who are you
The worst replacement
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Post Post #929 (isolation #92) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:48 am

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In post 557, ceejayvinoya wrote:Hey everyone let me catch up. :P
Who did you replace?
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Post Post #930 (isolation #93) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:49 am

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In post 926, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: ceejay

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What’s good about it?
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Post Post #932 (isolation #94) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:43 am

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In post 924, ofrhz wrote:pedit: i haven't played with a boris before @_@ how would he know how to read me?
Is he right?
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Post Post #935 (isolation #95) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:18 am

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In post 933, ofrhz wrote:
In post 930, Gustavo wrote:
In post 926, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: ceejay

wholesome wagon
What’s good about it?
CJ’s recent votes (first on osuka and then on you) don’t make sense.

He either 1) liked you enough to sheep onto your wagon on osuka or 2) he just thought osuka was scum

I don’t think it’s 1 because he voted you like 1 page later. I don’t think it’s 2 either because otherwise he wouldn’t have moved his vote so quickly 1 page later.

It’s also suspicious how he moved his vote onto you right after Yuurei gave a scumpool of CJ, osuka, Gus and two people voted for CJ, even though you weren’t on his radar earlier (his other null/scumreads were me and mumble)

Also CJ isn’t towny here. I remember thinking he was towny when I played with him last time even though he was lurky there too
What are your thoughts of my reasons for yuri?

The biggest thing was the attack on me immediately after I voted mumble and the weak reasons for somebody who’s basically confirmed town and it took major prying to get those reasons.
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Post Post #937 (isolation #96) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:26 am

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In post 936, Tchill13 wrote:Gus do you hard claim Mason?
I already did.
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Post Post #939 (isolation #97) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:13 am

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I’m supposed to believe that after this game - viewtopic.php?p=10160423#p10160423

You are ignorant to what is and isn’t allowed in normals?

No. This is fake ignorance imo.

Besides the fact I already called you scum for believing such a ridiculous fake claim, you should know that a 2 shot can never resolve both shots in the same day.

Yes I’m hard claiming mason
No I’m not a day cop

Today town should lynch yuri or you. Hopefully they come to their senses once they realize this is all an act by you.
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Post Post #942 (isolation #98) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:34 am

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In post 933, ofrhz wrote:CJ’s recent votes (first on osuka and then on you) don’t make sense.

He either 1) liked you enough to sheep onto your wagon on osuka or 2) he just thought osuka was scum

I don’t think it’s 1 because he voted you like 1 page later. I don’t think it’s 2 either because otherwise he wouldn’t have moved his vote so quickly 1 page later.

It’s also suspicious how he moved his vote onto you right after Yuurei gave a scumpool of CJ, osuka, Gus and two people voted for CJ, even though you weren’t on his radar earlier (his other null/scumreads were me and mumble)

Also CJ isn’t towny here. I remember thinking he was towny when I played with him last time even though he was lurky there too
I don’t have an issue with his osuka vote. Him as scum doesn’t have any motivation to move his vote off tommy at all, even if tommy is scum with him. If tommy flips scum he looks bad. If tommy flips town that’s a bonus for him.

His vote on me is definitely an odd one as is his remark about what we’d learn from a tommy lynch when he was voting tommy himself but that’s about all I see from him. Is it sort of suspicious? Sure is it worse than what I’ve seen from yuri or even tchill? I don’t agree.

I like wagons that have actual reasons for them. Tommy lacked it as does ceej. Those wagons make my radar go off.
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Post Post #943 (isolation #99) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:36 am

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Also I have a sneaky suspicion that yuri is boon but can’t prove it.
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Post Post #945 (isolation #100) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:54 am

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VOTE: tchill
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Post Post #948 (isolation #101) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:04 pm

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In post 946, Boris wrote:
In post 943, Gustavo wrote:Also I have a sneaky suspicion that yuri is boon but can’t prove it.
he is almost certainly not
Are you?
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Post Post #951 (isolation #102) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:18 pm

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Idk what you’re taking about
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Post Post #954 (isolation #103) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:26 pm

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I’m lost as shit right now. I don’t understand the words that are coming out of your keyboard.
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Post Post #955 (isolation #104) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:48 pm

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In post 952, Tchill13 wrote:The best part of this is both oath and gus could have been lynched by now but I've hard defended gus and oath. I've waffled on oath for obvious reasons but I've defended as much as I've pushed oath.

This is infuriating.
Your mad cause you could have lynched oath or me (town mason)?

Why would you be mad that you could of lynched me but now I’m basically confirmed town?
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Post Post #956 (isolation #105) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:49 pm

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Sounds like you are mad you got caught by a joke claim
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Post Post #968 (isolation #106) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:23 pm

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In post 958, Tchill13 wrote:im a little irritated that before you claim i hard defend you at a time a wagon could have taken off on you and you still assume im scum when this is easily the most effort i've put into sorting d1.
I didn’t ask nor want you to defend me. Sorry your buddying attempt didn’t work.
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Post Post #969 (isolation #107) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:25 pm

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In post 961, Tchill13 wrote:are you still lost?
You still say some things that confuse me but I’ve alread figured it out. You’re mad you slipped due to a joke claim.
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Post Post #970 (isolation #108) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:26 pm

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In post 962, Tchill13 wrote:willing to policy Gus
Scum claim
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Post Post #971 (isolation #109) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:34 pm

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And drop this “illegal claim” stuff. Nobody made an illegal claim. It’s called a joke
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Post Post #972 (isolation #110) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:11 am

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In post 285, Tchill13 wrote:Fake day vigs are *puts on sun glasses* the worst.
You saw right through this though.

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Post Post #975 (isolation #111) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:57 am

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Post Post #983 (isolation #112) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:31 am

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In post 976, Yuurei wrote:Tchill thought that Gustavo was a different person that in the past used to fakeclaim guilties
so it's somehow my fault tchill made the incorrect assumption?

no. But I have an idea.

@ tchill
- link me to all the games you have played with the person you think I am where they fake claimed guilties. I want to see your reactions to those to see if your reaction here makes sense.

this should be easy enough right?
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Post Post #984 (isolation #113) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:36 am

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In post 981, Yuurei wrote:"Meta is shit"

oh boy shut up already if someone is going to say that.


meta is only shit if used wrong.
it is shit because everyone uses it wrong.
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Post Post #985 (isolation #114) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:38 am

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In post 976, Yuurei wrote:3. Tchill wagon right now is starting to look like a counter wagon to Ceejay, being driven by Gustavo.
see this is bs. how tf am I driving it? I just joined an existing wagon. somebody else is driving it. somebody else is REALLY pushing harder for a tchill lynch than I am.

this kind of stuff just makes you look more like scum. it's distorting the truth
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Post Post #986 (isolation #115) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:41 am

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@ mod - mumble is overdue for a prod


he is a lurker i'd lynch if tchill or yuri aren't going to happen.
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Post Post #987 (isolation #116) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:46 am

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In post 976, Yuurei wrote:Tchill thought that Gustavo was a different person that in the past used to fakeclaim guilties, so when Gustavo fakeclaimed, he thought that Gustavo was serious about going through with it even if the claim was fake. He got surprised though when Gustavo called him out but liked the fact that he got town points at least from me because it sounded too much of a *bad play* by scum.
come to think of it, this entire post is horrible.

if tchill honestly thinks I am a person who fake claims guilties all the time, there is NO WAY town tchill believes my claim if he is town.


If tchill is town, i'm not sorry he can't take a joke.

he knew the worst's vig claim was a joke, yet he completely believes my claim that i can investigate 2 people on day 1?

No. I'm sorry I don't buy that for a second.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #117) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:12 am

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I think it’s interesting though that yuri has previously mentioned multiple times that tchill isn’t playing towards the meta she knows but she never pushes him for it. Now she’s adding meta for a ceej push?

I call foul. If ceej gets lynched and doesn’t flip red my theory is confirmed
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Post Post #992 (isolation #118) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:37 am

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In post 971, Gustavo wrote:And drop this “illegal claim” stuff. Nobody made an illegal claim. It’s called a joke
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Post Post #993 (isolation #119) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:38 am

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In post 972, Gustavo wrote:
In post 285, Tchill13 wrote:Fake day vigs are *puts on sun glasses* the worst.
You saw right through this though.

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Post Post #995 (isolation #120) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:39 am

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He won’t believe a day 1 unprovoked mason claim until the other person claims (which is pointless) and one is dead (also pointless)

Yeah no this isn’t town thinking. I also don’t believe that fits his town meta.
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Post Post #997 (isolation #121) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:40 am

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So are day cops.
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Post Post #998 (isolation #122) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:41 am

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In post 996, Tchill13 wrote:You joked about an illegal claim with the intent of discrediting me due to the fact the "guilties were similar to the reads I had just posted.

I did not call for that Mason go claim today. I'm just stating when I'll believe you're town.
Drop the illegal claim nonsense. There is no such thing as an illegal claim.

I made a joke. You somehow threw all common sense out the window and believed me. That’s your fault not mine.
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #123) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:45 am

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In post 1000, Tchill13 wrote:1st time I see a day cop joked about.
Then you have played some very boring games. My condolences

Still doesn’t explain why you would believe me if you think I’m somebody who regularly fake claims.


You better save your breath. You just flat out come out looking bad and I can’t thinknof anything that you can say now that changes that.
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #124) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:50 am

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In post 1000, Tchill13 wrote:Now respond to the fact your guilties were similar to the reads I had just posted. Did you or did you not use your fake guilties based off my reads?
I claimed guilty on somebody I thought was scum and was unrelated to your reads at all.
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #125) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:51 am

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In post 1003, Tchill13 wrote:EXPLAIN WHY THE GUILTIES ARE THE SAME AS MY READS GUS.
1. You say guilties like there was more than one. There wasn’t.
2. Coincidence?
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #126) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:53 am

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I will say you guys put on some good scum theater
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #127) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:57 am

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To be consistent with your reads I’d have to have more than 1 in common. You can’t really count lavendera because i town read her before anyone else did.

I was scum reading Yuri for completely different reasons than yours.

You have seriously lost it dude. I’ve never seen somebody slip so bad as scum before
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Post Post #1011 (isolation #128) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:01 am

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In post 627, Tchill13 wrote:Yuurei tw and Tommy would be my guess atm.

Tacos, mumble, lalendra, gus, oath, ofrhz. I'm fine with confdenctly calling these players town.
I don’t scum read tw or tommy. If anything I was the first to show the tommy wagon was bad.

I don’t town read anyone on your town list outside of lalendra and maybe oath.

My scum team is you/Yuri/mumble.

Literally no consistency in our reads what so even
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #129) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:02 am

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Post Post #1014 (isolation #130) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:06 am

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In post 1013, Yuurei wrote:Like, Gus if you have so much stamina and think that town should put effort, why don't you go do some analyze to see how natural Tchill read progression was?
I’ve looked at his Votes and reads. I don’t see town flow to them. If anything he announces his scum read on you around the time I’m pushing you to explain yourntown read. If anything that goes along with him buddying me which he’s already admitted to.
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #131) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 am

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I repeat myself because people ignore good evidence. Between my reasons and oath’s I have tchill as lock scum but you won’t buss him, and we have a bunch of lurkers.
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #132) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:14 am

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Oh I was drunk when that happened. Did he really call me a moron? I’ll go check. Fuck that
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #133) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:17 am

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He didn’t call me a moron.

I still want to know why if he thinks I’m somebody who fake claims a lot, did he straight up believe me when it was physically impossible to have that kind of role.
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #134) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:19 am

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In post 1023, Yuurei wrote:you reallyyyyy need to reevaluate and look in early game...
Late game is way more useful than early game.

The only person I could be wrong in is mumble but for now I’m fine with my reads.

You/tchill are fairly obviously scum to me.
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #135) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:21 am

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Like have you ever caught somebody in a lie?

The early conversation they are very convincing. The more you ask questions and dig deep it becomes more apparent they are lying.

Mafia is the same way. Poeple can only fake looking town so long before they slip.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #136) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:32 am

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My scum read on you isn’t really scum slips, rather behavior I don’t attribute to town.
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #137) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:43 am

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In post 1032, Yuurei wrote:Although I scum read almost every post from Tchill, his initial RVS, his reaction to the claim, his appeal to emotion and the fact that the game has way too many lurkers, make me confident that I want him alive for now.
:facepalm:

And you honestly wonder why I don’t think you are town
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #138) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:44 am

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In post 1033, Yuurei wrote:I'll rather let Tchill off the hook for a while than giving free pass to bad play and lurk.
This is admitting you would rather policy lynch than scum hunt
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #139) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:48 am

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Well I’ve tried that’s all I can do.


Got to go
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #140) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:57 am

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In post 1038, Yuurei wrote:Ceejay has been scummier than Tchill,
Ceejay has barely posted. His actions don’t make sense from scum which I’ve explained already.


Tchill’s actions don’t make sense as town. You’ve been giving him excuses all game. It’s very noteworthy that’s for sure.
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #141) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:59 am

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In post 1038, Yuurei wrote:You as well has been scummier
lol

Scummier than tchill?

The guy who thinks I’m somebody who fake claims a lot but believes the claim anyway?

What if I told you I’ve skimmed some of that person’s game and he’s only fake claimed once that I can find.

Why not ask tchill for a link to every game he’s fake claimed to prove me wrong n
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #142) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:07 am

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In post 1032, Yuurei wrote:Although I scum read almost every post from Tchill
In post 1040, Yuurei wrote:no, you're doing good as either alignment...
How can you make both statements?

Can you explain this to me? If you scum read almost every post how can you think he’s playing good? How can you not want to lynch him?

Doesn’t make any sense.

Goal is to Find scum - looks like you might have
Then Lynch scum - you are not doing this.

Yes lurkers suck but let the mods sort that shit out.
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #143) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:17 am

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In post 1043, Yuurei wrote:Tchill has been scummy yes, but look at what have you done... :

1. scum read Mumble for calling your post with only a video "lame"
2. think that someone trying to explain Mumble's pov was his scumbuddy and interpreted that as *hard defending*
3. misinterpret people a lot and clearly not even be trying to understand what people say to you
4. claim mason out of the blue (even as a gambit it's bad and later I explain why)
5. not be able to do anything but read someone based on bias or when you have half an argument just say it over and over
1. and? I am not currently pushing him am I? i have other reasons to scum read him also, not just that one btw.
2. I pointed this out in . I never did this. The fact that you bring it up yet again makes you look bad since you've ignored the first time I corrected you
3. I don't think I have misinterpreted anyone, but if I had mistakes happen. if I make a mistake I expect people to correct me.
4. this is just bad play, not scummy. like you can't lynch me because i claimed a mason but you can lynch somebody for almost every one of his posts being scummy (paraphrasing your words)
5. so I play different than you. I still make very valid points though.

These posts aren't scummy. they are signs that I am shitty player and I figured I would be since i haven't played much mafia in 3 years and when i did play I was a shitty player hence the new account.

You said you find almost all of tchill's posts scummy yet absolutely refuse to vote him because we have lurkers and people playing poorly. Lynching lurkers and people playing poorly is called policy lynching.

you should be lynching players who you scum read or who make a lot of scummy posts yet that isn't what you want to do. it's very disturbing that if I am wrong about you and you are actually town, you are doing way worse than anything you have just said about me.

Go back to ignoring me. It's probably better that way.
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #144) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:19 am

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In post 1045, Yuurei wrote:simply. remove his reaction to the claim and no one believed that Tchill could be scum aside from me and Oath. Including you
you can't ignore something though. Once it happens it is there to evaluate.

it's like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube. I can't and I won't ignore this reaction. Nobody else should either but I can't make people do what I want apparently.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #145) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:31 am

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Looks like we are at a stalemate and I’m bored going round and round.

Have a nice life
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #146) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:33 am

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In post 1048, Yuurei wrote:You come out of the blue and say *I'm mason guys* without any necessity. Like, you just come and claim power role. Simply like that.
I was drunk and pissed and wanted you lynched. I stupidly thought claiming mason would make people listen to me.

I don’t need to actually out my partner cause you should already know who it is.
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #147) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:44 am

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I never power role hunt but when I see people hard defending each other I always assume mason. It’s the only explanation that I can justify.

I also look at who is calling people scum but won’t lynch them. That’s classic distancing
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #148) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:47 am

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Wishlist.

1. A more active mod
2. Replacements and hard prods
3. One of my scum reads lynched
4. Death if these don’t all happen.

Like I get RL takes precedence but this is too many inactives. That said I’m still going to push for a scum lynch regardless who’s inactive
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #149) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:50 am

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Tommy should very clearly be town. Nobody had a reason for voting him. It grew with almost no counter.

Tchill/mumble are already in my list. They both make sense. I’ll need a cop inno on you but for day 1 I like my list.

Ceej also doesn’t read scum but I’m not super confident. Just more confident in who I do scum read.
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #150) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:59 am

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I’m heading out so I’ll read that later. I think I figure out less yelling and more conversation is better. Hopefully I’ll learn from this.
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #151) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:05 am

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In post 1056, Yuurei wrote:Tommy wagon growing so fast was due to RVS and the fact that there was no counter wagon is because scum sometimes is too afraid to try a counter wagon when their partners are almost lynched.

Mumble is a possibility but I don't know, do you believe me if I say to you that when he rolled scum in Floral Mafia his posts had at most 2 lines and no direction?
With regards to tommy, that’s definitely a possibility. I just don’t feel comfortable given the lack of reasons.

With regards to mumble, I’ll say meta of one game is kind of tough. It’s not very reliable. That’s the issue with meta, you need lots of games. Lots of actual playing experience which I don’t know if anyone here has and it’s not completely reliable even then.

Like I get why as either alignment mumble would be mad at me but based on my one game he was the biggest reason town lost. Lots of people said so, he got mad. It’s tough when somebody cares more about self preservation instead of the team and unfortunately that’s what happened in that game.

So I don’t trust him. I don’t see scum hunting coming from him either. He could have been more mindful I was v/la and just posting an appropriate meme at the right time.

He’s my weakest scum read. He’s a combo scum/policy lynch for me. I don’t think he’ll be a team player based on my experience with him.

The issue is lurkers. I tried to wagon one to get some content and I was really surprised tchill didn’t join. I feel like he’s an anti-lurker type person and the last time I saw someone go against it, they were scum.

Sure for activity purposes leaving active players alive make sense but I still have to lynch scum and tchill is the most viable one right now.

In the end I’m a team player. If everyone wants ceej, or tommy I’ll ultimately join but I won’t be happy about it.
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #152) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:17 pm

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In post 1067, Tchill13 wrote:I'd personally like an investigative to clear the masons n1 thats just me though. "tchill is scum because he wants to waste an investigation" i'd rather not be tricked by a scum fake claim.
This is the most absurd suggestion. Town should be happy that day 1 they can now narrow the pool of scum down. Towns chances have gone up dramatically of lynching scum day 1.

If you were town you’d be trying to work with us.

The suggestion alone doesn’t make you scum, your entire attitude does. You were clearly hoping for a couple of easy mislynches and now you can’t get them.
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #153) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 780, Tchill13 wrote:In all seriousness if we lynched a low info slot I'd push for ceejay. He hasn't done much sorting since replacing in. Not stating this for reactions.
You aren’t trying to lynch scum. You’re tying to policy lynch lurkers. There are more lurkers then there are scum in the game. You don’t even try to sort ceej or any of the other lurkers. You’re guilty of that
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #154) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:35 pm

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Idk why I’m wasting my time. I’m not going to anymore. Im ignoring you
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #155) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:39 pm

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Who is Cedrick?
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #156) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:23 pm

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In post 1084, Mumble wrote:
In post 1083, Gustavo wrote:Who is Cedrick?
Fun story. I didn't spell it correctly, but you did.

We played Floral Mafia together.
Well idk who he is. I’ve only played with you one other time.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #157) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:03 am

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In post 1086, Boris wrote:I got nothin'.
Surely you have stuff to add. You’ve replaced in and haven’t provided much. Who do you scum read? Why do you scum read them?
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #158) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:38 am

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What’s the VC at?
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #159) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:45 am

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@tchill. I’m sorry for the issues we’ve had this game. I’m going to try and chill out going forward. Hopefully we can co-exist without being toxic to each other. All I ask is if you treat me like every other player and stop assuming I’m somebody else.

I don’t really want to be responsible for others lack of enjoyment. If everyone else thinks you’re town, I’ll back off on my push for now.

But if ceej flips town this looks bad for you imo.

Thank you and again I’m sorry.
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #160) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:52 am

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CJ is at l-1.
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #161) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:54 am

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@cj. Time to claim and give final thoughts.
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #162) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:29 am

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You let off mumble
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #163) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:56 am

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Is still rather lynch my scum reads but that’s not going to happen so I see no reason to stop progress. We can have a new conversation tomorrow
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #164) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:56 am

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Just need cj to post.
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #165) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 1103, ceejayvinoya wrote:Hey. I'm claiming vt.
Final reads please.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #166) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 1107, Oath wrote:AAAAAAND we're just gonna let TChill line up lynches? Seriously at this point if TChill is scum we might as well call it a scum win.
No we aren’t going to allow that. Let’s see what night brings us and go from there.
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #167) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:48 am

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VOTE: ceej
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #168) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:21 pm

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In post 1112, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1107, Oath wrote:AAAAAAND we're just gonna let TChill line up lynches? Seriously at this point if TChill is scum we might as well call it a scum win.
If we're just gonna let oath play this way the whole game we might as well just ask the mod to force replace her.
I don’t see anything wrong with oath’s play. Definitely not force replace worthy.
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #169) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:31 pm

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In post 1114, Tchill13 wrote:Could you honestly imagine if everyone played the same way oath was rn?
he’s pushing his scum read. I ain’t mad at it
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #170) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:32 pm

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In post 1115, Tchill13 wrote:I'm not saying it is I'm just going with the "might as well" flow you know? Might as well assume oath isn't gonna contribute at all to the game until I'm lynched. If that's the case why should I want oath in the game? Even if I do TR her? I've been down this road. No way does my game benefit from oath being in it. As town or as scum.
Do you feel this way towards everyone who tunnels?
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #171) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:33 pm

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I’ve been tunneling most of the game and you called me town. I just gave up I regret that if this is a town flip
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #172) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:29 pm

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I need to meta dive tchill.
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #173) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:34 pm

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Yes
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #174) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:53 pm

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In post 1130, Tchill13 wrote:Meta diving players gives alts a pretty big advantage... I'm joking I dont meta anyone. I only know play through familiarity of playing with them.
I just want to verify your stance on tunnelers.
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #175) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:04 pm

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Odd to not like tunneling? No
Odd to ask a mod to force replace everyone who tunnels? Yes

You didn’t ask the mod to force replace me so your stance on oath is weird. I want to see if you’ve ever done that before.
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #176) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:52 pm

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In post 1140, ofrhz wrote:sorry i've been neglecting this game guys

game fatigue is getting to me tbh
We are in twilight I believe.
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #177) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:00 pm

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In post 1138, Tchill13 wrote:But gus's claims seemed like a joke right away right?
My 2 shot claim? Absolutely. Anyone who thought that was legit probably should quit mafia.
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #178) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:00 pm

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In post 1145, Gustavo wrote:
In post 1138, Tchill13 wrote:But gus's claims seemed like a joke right away right?
My 2 shot claim? Absolutely. Anyone who thought that was legit probably should quit mafia.
And Mod should force replace them
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #179) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:06 pm

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I think his reactions are genuine
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #180) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:08 pm

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I don’t *
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #181) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:18 pm

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In post 1150, Tchill13 wrote:I'm not about to start a pissing contest.

Oath is just determined to view whatever I do or say in a negative light. Gus said I should quite mafia. 4 others aren't playing. Fun group.
You should get a sense of humor. Makes mafia way more fun. I again was joking
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #182) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:24 pm

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In post 1155, Mumble wrote:Why are we talking about the game in twilight then? Pretty sure we should minimize twilight talk.
lol no
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #183) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:30 pm

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In post 1159, Mumble wrote:Pretty sure I've been in several games with players better than you that have said twilight talk only benefits scum, so. Laugh your head right on off.
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Post Post #2604 (isolation #184) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:18 am

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gg town. Idk how you won, but thank you.

Mumbles complaining about his slot not being replaced is hilarious. He strategically repacked out and it didn’t work.

There is a dead thread but I don’t consent to it being released.
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Post Post #2606 (isolation #185) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:42 am

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That was probably after you faked annoyance with meme man’s hilarious gimmick and tried to use that for some cheap town cred.

This site lets people cheat and strategically replace out. Such a shame.

Both scums guilty of shady replaceouts.

That’s ok town played bad also. Nero playing against his win condition by faking a guilty on a townie and garmr spoon feeding scum a fake claim lolololol.

This was an example overall of how not to play mafia. Nobody played well except me.
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Post Post #2608 (isolation #186) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:57 am

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Yeah I had no basis for my accusation.
In post 2131, Mumble wrote:
In post 2128, Mumble wrote:One more post from Meme and I replace out.

srs.
to be clear. this should read:

'one more gimmick post.'

emphasis on the gimmick.

it isn't necessary and only serves to make Meme feel good.
In post 2137, Mumble wrote:
In post 2135, meme man wrote:
In post 2125, meme man wrote:We only instantly lose if they are exactly {t, s}.
This statement is B L A T A N T L Y F A L S E although I believe my plan is still G O O D.

Just do not T E L E G R A P H the H I D D if we L Y N C C town.

@mod: replace me


I will be advocating to the admins for a site ban for this type of crap.
OH SHIT!!!! LOOKS LIKE BASIS TO ME!!!!!


Meme shouldn’t be reported for his gimmick. You and the worst both should though. Both of those replacements were strategic in nature.
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #187) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:00 am

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In post 2607, Mumble wrote:but you are making up a story for the sole purpose of denigrating me. You have issues buddy.
You shouldn’t make baseless accusations. I didn’t make up anything. I proved I’m telling the truth. Sitting here lying is not ok. Something is wrong with YOU
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Post Post #2611 (isolation #188) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:01 am

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In post 2609, Garmr wrote:Gustavo outing masons with no pressure on them because his incompetent.
Go fuck off with the insults. I made a mistake. At least I didn’t sooon feed scum a fake claim and then go on and believe it.

That’s the real incompetence.
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Post Post #2612 (isolation #189) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:03 am

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If anything me outing masons helped town. Knowing there are masons helps see through the fake claims. It was clear the worst was lying. Learn to play and not help scum fake claim ok?

I’ve now seen enough of you to know you absolutely suck at this game. I have rage issues, that can be fixed. You have no clue what you are doing. I don’t think that can be fixed.
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Post Post #2637 (isolation #190) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:23 am

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Never claimed to be perfect but I was a sum reading scum day 1 and then 2 townies got in my way. 2 townie who decided they wanted to play like scum.

That’s better than lucking your way onto 2 scum wagons like you did. You didn’t catch mumble or the worst. The worst was lynched cause he poe’d himself into a corner.

Garmr go play some newbie games if you are serious about continuing mafia. Good players shouldn’t give scum fake claims. They shouldn’t try to lynch obv town players either.
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Post Post #2641 (isolation #191) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:26 am

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Garmr doesn’t know the definition of perfect? lol. Playing well =/= playing perfect. I never said I played perfect.

I messed up by claiming early but in reality that didn’t hurt town more than the play of tchill/you/Nero/yuri/etc.

Meme gets credit, he played quite well also.

I’m done here. Garmr is too stubborn to realize he is terrible at this game. I feel sorry for anyone who has to play with him.
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