Micro 815: Greatest Idea - Game Over

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first impulse is that adam's #17 is a scumpost

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aha

but you didn't say you're not scum, did you

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oversimplified but yes

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Excluding when I was in a Hydra with someone who wanted scum I've never picked scum in greater idea or greatest idea.

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Actually I think I chose scum once because my cards made all my town options shit but I had really good scum options. Sole time it happened.

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I doubt you can pull town motivations out of discards. Anyone who chooses their cards would select the one that they feel is most useful. I'm only going to call it towny if the discard is a particularly strong card for a non-town alignment, like Mafia Godfather.

VOTE: cj

Think this is scum discrediting perfectly good reasoning to keep the Lynch pool open.

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Contrary to popular belief I am good at this game

The strength of my feeling about CJ is significantly weaker than about laserguy so let's let him respond and such

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Gemini you wouldn't have rolled scum would you?

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Is that @me

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Why ask a question if you know the answer?

Actually, it was.

i didn't know the answer.

there's a difference between knowing that gemini is going to say somehting along the lines of not being scum and knowing what she is going to say and the difference can be meaningful

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VOTE: Not_mafia

historically has always picked scum in these games and we know for a fact that he had the option of picking scum based on his discard + he is lurking

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and, like

the dude doesn't decide to finally play town in a game with me.

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okay so it's pretty useless, i agree

why is it scum

why are we not powerlynching NM who is basically confirmed scum

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what the fuck

are all 3 of you scum or something

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N_M has an ultraconsistent record of picking scum in these games

he is confirmed to have had the option of picking scum

he

never

decides that the game with me is the game to start randomly picking town

why is this being ignored in favor of a wagon on someone who is obviously town?

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like bull fucking shit you saw his towntell

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okay so it's pretty useless, i agree

why is it scum

why are we not powerlynching NM who is basically confirmed scum

I honestly don't think NM is scum here. Or at the very least, his discard indicates he isn't as likely to be scum.

3 person scumteam wow

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N_M has an ultraconsistent record of picking scum in these games

he is confirmed to have had the option of picking scum

he

never

decides that the game with me is the game to start randomly picking town

why is this being ignored in favor of a wagon on someone who is obviously town?

this is a hard guilty

unfortunately there are 3 mafia in this game who are trying to defend him so it'll take some effort to get this through but

nm is 100% scum

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so fucking what you're confirmed not alien, it's the least likely faction

and why as town would you feel the need to point out that you're confirmed not alien

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because claiming NM to be town is absolutely senseless and I truly don't understand how anyone who isn't his scumbuddy claims that viewpoint.

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its a micro and I have a serious problem with how bandwagony the votes have been

I made a minor push on CJ, suddenly he's being clusterfucked

one vote goes on guac (and that vote makes no sense) and suddenly they're being clusterfucked

but when I try to push NM everyone's townreading him somehow? is this one of those dumb games where scum does literally nothing and everyohne calls them town?

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This now will destroy this tell forever and make Not_Mafia so hard to read.

Every time I see him make a post that says he is not town, he is, in fact, town. It's been reliable, and the absence of posts where he says he is not town, he's generally scum.

It's how I caught him in the last Greatest Idea game and shot him to end the game.

i disagree

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I am making very little assumption that you care about my presence

I'm simply stating that this isn't the game you would choose to change that.

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Just Lynch NM please thank you cuties

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town 1-shot vig, that was my shot. doubt that scum overlapped the kill there so my bad I guess but he was obviously not town

the question is do I count that as a scum shot in my shot record

it's not fair to count it as town but maybe I just call it null

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VOTE: Hiraki

sure

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claim your roleblock in advance please

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would prefer you target someone with actual scum equity but I can't make you so

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i mean the other vig contender for me was hiraki

hopefully this is just gg here

remainign scum would be ircher or gemini if there's a remaining scum

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I did not realize there's 2 remaining aliens, hm.

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or

get this

two werewolves

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Gemini you've done nothing and it makes you unreadable.

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I think that Hiraki is just last scum but if he's not...

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Either Brass is scum or Hiraki is scum

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yes we should massclaim

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oh so hiraki isn't actually guiltied
who was your save?

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I DECLARE BANKRUPCY!!!!!!!!

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I didn't say it, I declared it.

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UNVOTE:

ok

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still a 1v1 in hiraki brass tho

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so you think alien!brass fakeclaimed a guilty?

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ack

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That's painful.

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x_x

um

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VOTE: Guacamole

sure

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y wtf would you claim today and not yesterday

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guac's play makes so much sense as scum in this situation

1) he isn't at all suspicious that gemini claimed doc with the same save as him, doesn't even consider her alignment
2) his line of approach to the game is to lynch brassherald for some reason, the person who claimed a guilty? like it doesn't make sense and it reads like the reaction of someone who knows hiraki is town and is playing around that lynch and setting up tomorrow's lynch as well. he also posited ircher/hiraki as the likely team which doesn't make sense from a town pov but it does make sense from a scum 'I want to be able to hop on whichever ends up being the leading wagon in their 1v1 if I actually get brassherald lynched' pov

i do generally feel like gemini has been town. i've been tempted to push her just to see how she reacts and lock that in but I was worried that that would end up making her get frustrated and play worse so meh. it's somewhat OGIy but I don't think the mod forgets hiraki's action in this situation, I don't really scumread either of the remainder, so I guess that just leaves guacamole

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Town Innocent Child
Town 1-Shot Vigilante

and whatever my discard was

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Btw ignore my gemini read because I hard townread her as scum

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i dunno this game is hurting my soul

thought I vigged scum and won

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UNVOTE:

not sure if i'll get a bette rperspective but like

what are the odds that there's two docs claiming the same save

@Guacamole why would you save me
@Gemini why save me

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Can you give me your reads on everyone?

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No and no sorry qt

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You're all not that cute tbh

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I am by far the cutest person here tho

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How does that nightkill analysis work

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Posties are adorable.

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moonread?

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Yeah, I don't really know what to do here.

As my top townread Gemini I am sheeping you until you (presumably) get nightkilled. How sure are you that Guac is scum over your other reads?

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SUGAR SPICE AND EVERYTHING NICE what

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Yeah I was trying to reaction test gemini didn't get much from it idk what my read on her is this game is hard I wish I trusted myself to read her

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Soooooooooooooo

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Hiraki if you're claiming 3 town roles, why didn't you use the VT as your discard?

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Whatever

I think Hiraki is alien but alien that wasn't actually trying to commit a nightkill last night since they only have 1

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I think it's not impossible that ircher dayvigged their partner but I also feel like they would hace known the dayvig was legit, the respons eto the dayvig was to continue playing which sorta belies them not knowing

not literally impossible but meh

gotten townfeels from BOTH doc claims honeslty

brassherald hsould be town

so that kinda leaves hiraki

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but again we've established in past games that I auto townread gemini and it doesn't make her town so my TR there shouldn't be treated with too much respect

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Gemini can you please play like the game where I was scum because if you did half of the stuff you did in that game you'd be obvtown