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*as long as you're both town.In post 14, Mathdino wrote:probably has little to no effect on balance
scumteam is pretty screwed with me/NSG together tho
Honestly, I don't see a reason why outing our neighbours would be harmful but I'm still cautious to do so as I don't see how it would benefit us in any way.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Yeah but who do I RV though?In post 17, Invisibility wrote:No one's in the mood to RVS?I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Hmm, actually. Does this mean youIn post 2, HeWhoSwims wrote:Throughout the game, every player will be in 2 neighborhoodsalwayshave 2 neighbourhoods?I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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So you're saying I've already dropped scum tells?In post 54, Mathdino wrote:mutant is currently the best wagon, scum-mutant scumtells early and buries you with walls as the day goes onI mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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But you're not self voting?
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One day, people will stop asking me this question because everyone will know who I am and hence know that I don't just vote like that.In post 68, Invisibility wrote:mutant if you don't like wavemode why don't you vote wavemode?I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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If there was a wagon on 'em then I'd sure as hell join it for the pressure but I feel like a single vote as 'pressure' barely means a thing and is ineffective.In post 80, Invisibility wrote:
we gotta pressurewagon mate!In post 76, mutantdevle wrote:
One day, people will stop asking me this question because everyone will know who I am and hence know that I don't just vote like that.In post 68, Invisibility wrote:mutant if you don't like wavemode why don't you vote wavemode?I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Math I don't know what your deal is but either one of these things is going on regarding your read on me:
- You are scum picking on me because you know I'm an easy day 1 lynch and then I get harder to lynch as the day goes on.
- You majorly overestimate your ability to read me.
- You overestimate my ability to look townie.
- You don't actually scum read me but know that I'm most likely to scum tell as a day 1 wagon and hence want to get me to that position as your plan for reading me.
I don't think it's the first option since I wouldn't expect you to also be calling NSG out as scum and this point and I can only hope it's the 4th option.
But seriously, if you are scum reading me because my town game is blatantly obvious and I don't look townie enough yet, then stop. using. that. as. a. tell. for. me. Both you and the worst seem to expect me to look townie from the get go. That's not how I work. In our last game, I wasn't obvious town until after you died. That was day 3.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Probably not helping his view on usIn post 147, northsidegal wrote:i'm writing mutant off as town for nowI mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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I'm liking Myloninja13, UnrealSeal & Invisibility. StefanB is also looking town but he needs to step it up a bit to remove my doubt. I also think that I like you but I'm not sure. Math is cool I suppose as long as I am of the belief he is just trying to get arealread out of me by calling me scum. Honestly, wavemode is the only person I don't actually like at the moment but that's just gut. Everyone else has too low content for me to judge yet.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 162, Scioness Sajj wrote:what do you exactly like about myloninja and seal?
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Do my reads ever make sense?In post 163, Mathdino wrote:Trying to figure out whether reads that don't make any sense whatsoever
US a scumtell, nulltell, or towntell for mutantI mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Probably because they don't know how you play yet.In post 176, Myloninja13 wrote:Why am I scumI mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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If this is a pressure vote to make me respond to your question sooner than when I've specified then just know it won't work. Anyone who knows me will know that I have never failed to answer a question. So when I tell you I have every intention of explaining my answer later, I mean it. I don't mean "I hope you just forget about it so that I don't have to answer this question".In post 177, Scioness Sajj wrote:
ehIn post 165, mutantdevle wrote:By later I mean like day 2 or something.
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I don't town read cat. I just said I like their 1 post.In post 180, BuJaber wrote:Found it a little surprising that mutant TR'd cat based on one post when the rest of us were put under the umbrella of too quiet to judge yet.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Isn't your point that they avoided RVS though? So you'd have to be ignoring those posts to make this point or you know your point is wrong.In post 205, UglyDuck wrote:Not ignoring just highlighting this oneI mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Talking to the mod pregame.In post 256, northsidegal wrote:@mutant, when did you realize that the game didn't take place exclusively in the PTs?I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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If I was scum, I would 100% be scum with a heavy pre game strategiser since I'd be scum with at least myself.In post 259, Mathdino wrote:I would accept that as a reason he's not scum with a heavy pre game strategiser
Just to clarify my above statement, I started talking in my PTs before the thread was created and even before I even received my alignment. I then had a few small PMs with the mod essentially along the lines of 'wait, am I supposed to be able to do this?' from which I had the realisation that we can talk in the thread too once its up.
Even then though, I don't think anything about not knowing this part of the game is alignment indicative for me in any way not does it say anything about who I could be scum with.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 287, Invisibility wrote:what is that question even supposed to accomplish
I feel like she is trying to paint my misunderstanding of the setup as a town slip and asked me the question hoping my answer would back up said claim.In post 288, Invisibility wrote:the one that NSG askedI mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Actually, I made the opposite conclusion...In post 327, Awoo wrote:>first response to getting scum read is "you're scum lynching me im easy mislynch"
I gave 4 possible reasons from my point of view for math's scum read of me, but at the end of it I literally say how I don't think it's the first option which is the scum option:
Please don't cherry pick my posts.In post 143, mutantdevle wrote:I don't think it's the first option since I wouldn't expect you to also be calling NSG out as scum and this point and I can only hope it's the 4th option.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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I don't know if it's intended but you seem very confident in the idea that I'm scum.In post 354, Awoo wrote:
- found scum mutantdevleAwoo why are you townreading me
- whining about winrate (note: this is a bad reason)
- the early push on mutant gives me flashbacks to games in which I hard pushed on scum early and everyone ignored me (taking justice into our own hands, open 695)
- reads are volatile and not agreeable/scripted (nsg is scumteam -> nsg is clear)
- agree on the surprise uglyduck town, he does seem genuine
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your turn: explain wavemode town to me!
STOP SPAMMING IM WRITING THE POST btw mutant > arcangel in terms of best lynchI mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Oh, you played EE too?In post 363, Awoo wrote:#nsg
no, but we come from the same offsite forum. And I watched him play cult leader in rocky picture horror show.
Also, rocky horror picture show was becoming more and more of a meme by the end. Please only take into account my behaviour of the first 2 - 3 'day' phases as my 'scum' meta.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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I'm tired and this confuses me.In post 380, Mathdino wrote:Scum wouldn't out their dayvig by murdering mutant like that in cold bloodI mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 411, Awoo wrote:#1 fear in this game is that mutant is a scum slot and replaces out and a good player replaces in and never gets lynched.
I will never replace out of any game. Ever.In post 412, wavemode wrote:what, mutant is replacing out?
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I mean, this is just rudeIn post 411, Awoo wrote:and a good player replaces in and never gets lynched.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Honestly, my thought process right now is "what's the point?" in almost every aspect. That about sums me up.In post 423, Awoo wrote:My biggest problem with you is you've been all defense and wifom (I would do xyz if I was mafia ) and very little content. Don't defend yourself by responding to me, show me a thought process. I'm not accepting "I'll do it later in the game", show me literally anything because I don't like anything you have so far and if you're town it shouldn't be that hard.
I'll provide proper content for you. When that will be I don't know. It depends on the day, it depends on the game state and it depends on how I just generally feel.when I feel like it
I don't really have any scum reads right now. I was scum reading NSG because I was sheeping math on it but now math says she's town. And I'm only sheeping him because I know my reads are complete shit in like every game and the main piece of advice I've got from people about that is to just know when to sheep others. I was scum reading wavemode but idk I'm just not anymore probably because of how he has reacted to me which makes me worry that he is scum successfully pocketing me since my experience with scumsters reacting to me is they either push me hard or buddy me. Ofc I also have my paranoia about math but that's becoming a standard for every game I play with him now so I'm just ignoring it and reasoning to myself how he is scum. I'm biased in favour of my neighbours and some of the people they have mentioned as town but again paranoia - especially since those are stupid reasons to trust them.
And basically yeah I just feel useless right now in this game because I have nothing to do, my strength in mafia means nothing here and I doubt that's going to change all game. At most, I may be useful for vote count and night kill analysis but anyone can do that you don't need me for it and even then there's very limited information you can get from it.
So basically I'm not doing much if anything because I don't think there's anything to actually do.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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You've both played with and seen me play a lot more than that yet you've been unable to read me correctly without sheeping recently :/In post 472, Mathdino wrote:but uglyduck i've played with like 3 times now, i think i can claim solid knowledge of him
I'm neither for nor against an uglyduck lynch, but just saying. From my PoV, your statement of "I've played with them a lot so I know how to read them" doesn't really mean much in the way of reassurance or convincing.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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My vote is more policy than anything. I don't like AA9's interactions with people. Not because there is anything necessarily scummy about them but rather because the interactions are kinda toxic. Regardless of whose fault that kind of interaction is, the easiest soloution is to remove AA9. My scum team only won my last scum game because of how much the town was at each other's throats and I see traces of that here. Either AA9 is scum or they'll be a problem townie later on in the game. IMO, that's worth spending a lynch on. Especially a day 1 lynch.In post 582, BuJaber wrote:I'm willing to vote for AA9 specifically but the recent votes on her make me uneasy. They came quickly and without explanation.
I asked invisibility about his vote essentially right after he made it and he says that AA9 is awful at defending herself and that she's scum trying to thrust hate onto math.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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In post 583, Myloninja13 wrote:Most people who townread me have played with me or seen my town play before.
I'd say so yes, hence my town read of mylo.In post 584, BuJaber wrote:Hence the question. Is your play still in line with your town meta.
That said, I'd fully expect scum!mylo to have the same level of minimum effort.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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I don't really have a read either way on them.In post 588, BuJaber wrote:What about uglyduck mutant? Do you townread him and why/why not?I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Typically, a serious L-1 reaching wagon is probably the best way to sort me. However, this is way too late in the day for running me up to L-1, figuring out I’m town, have the wagon disappear and then have someone else lynched. If I’m wagoned now you’re just asking for a miss lynch. Y’all have missed your chance to wagon me today, try tommorow instead.In post 601, UglyDuck wrote:
can't we try to start Mutant instead? It feels like a much better spot.In post 600, Mathdino wrote:I'm policy lynching aa9 if it comes down to the wire
If she can't pay enough attention to the game to even notice who's voting who, she's not worth the effort
Fucking do something, people
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What current PT associations do you have confirmed? From there, we can simply question those we are unsure of.In post 673, BuJaber wrote:There's still the matter of the lying during neighbor claims. I am still interested in any info that exposes who lied so we can ask them why and see if we believe them to be town based on what they say or we lynch them for lying.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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I'm comfortable with that. Not as much has gone on in my PTs as I would have hoped.In post 678, northsidegal wrote:After we've decided on a lynch but before it happens, would everyone be alright posting the full contents of their PTs? There's something I've been thinking about.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Sure it's not difficult, but I really don't think it's likely. I agree with BuJaber on them never being scum together this game.In post 697, northsidegal wrote:
This is the crux of where I think your reasoning is questionable. It's not difficult to fake.In post 696, BuJaber wrote:If both are scum why would stefan say this to her? They'd know I am.I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Personally, I thought you came across as confident.
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I actually really don't like this post. Math town reads you and has stated thatIn post 710, northsidegal wrote:
by the way, mathIn post 692, Mathdino wrote:Along those lines, scum NSG has previously killed me while I was townreading her so while I expect you guys not to lynch UglyDuck, wave, or BuJaber, I don't expect 100% sheeping on NSG
Figure it out as you go
can you not say things like this? like, could you put a bit more into reading me before the day ends?
especially given bujaber's history and what he's already said given the situation of scioness being town i'd rather not turn this game into more of a disaster than it is
i'm certain someone will call this "knowing scioness will flip town" or something of the sort. to them i would say that asking math to read me more doesn't make sense coming from me as scum.manytimes; so I really don't understand why you'd ask him to put more effort into reading you when he has clearly come to the conclusion you are town for now. And that wifomy lamist self-meta at the end...I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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