Open 729 - Cul de Sac!

[Awoo]

To whom it may concern,
I think town is NSG seal mutant wingedcatgirl and math,

Sincerely,

Awoo

[Awoo]

To whom it may concern,
I think town is NSG seal mutant wingedcatgirl and math,

Sincerely,

Awoo

have you been following along with the game?

have you ever regretted making a post

[Awoo]

OK sorry about that earlier post here is my real catchup

The police has been tipped that the local Mafia is very active in this neighborhood and has

three

of its kingpins living in the tight-knit communit

this pretty much confirms the moderator is mafia, since we know 2 players are mafia.

Im going to dump my raw catchup here. Industrial quality unrefined notes, not for human consumption. Nothing is clear, ask for clarification, enter at own risk.

Spoiler: notes

page 9

mutantdevle
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19/20 are way too concerned about appearnce
67/73 bad interaction.
jumps on wavemode right afterbujaber 84 ehh fuck it
>first response to getting scum read is "you're scum lynching me im easy mislynch"
227 suspicoius. agree without reason??

Scioness Sajj
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decent votes page1
120 vote on seal? weird but good continuing good feleings

Mathdino
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top town tbh
+ for finding mutant

Myloninja13
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zero content

northsidegal
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first vote on scioness? wtf weird.
i liked post 264 since that was exactly what i was thinking
not terible voting arcangel either

wingedcatgirl
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who?
280 not terrible

Invisibility
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decent thoughts on NSG i can see why one might think that
287 sick callout

BuJaber
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dislike 82 / vote on wavemode. overjustifying his vote it feels like.
good votes though. and i like him overall

Unreal Seal
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i dont think hes mafia but i cant remmeber why.
i think hes getting picked on by bad men

UglyDuck
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194 pings me because it contradicts my reads LOL but seriously:
calls seal scummy for what i deem to be fabricated reasons
calls mutant towny
refuses to put a hard scumread anywhere
250 seemed genuine
283 not terrible either
--- guy reads like hes realaly trying to find the mafias

ArcAngel9
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hmm
wavemode
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bad 174

Conclusions:
Townpool in {scioness, math, invis (?), seal, duck}
not likely mafia {bujab}
content not found { mylo}
kinda ignored them while i was reading {winggirl, wave}
Killpool in {mutant, nsg, angel}
VOTE: arcangel9

[Awoo]

yes, i actually did

[Awoo]

what else am i suppoesd to do in lecture

[Awoo]

you've been active lurking for 14 pages

[Awoo]

Awoo why are you townreading me

- found scum mutantdevle
- whining about winrate (note: this is a bad reason)
- the early push on mutant gives me flashbacks to games in which I hard pushed on scum early and everyone ignored me (taking justice into our own hands, open 695)
- reads are volatile and not agreeable/scripted (nsg is scumteam -> nsg is clear)
- agree on the surprise uglyduck town, he does seem genuine
- high energy


your turn: explain wavemode town to me!

STOP SPAMMING IM WRITING THE POST btw mutant > arcangel in terms of best lynch

[Awoo]

#nsg
no, but we come from the same offsite forum. And I watched him play cult leader in rocky picture horror show.

#math
you're talking about my first post, right? Yeah you're exactly correct, take the reasons that happened before then and apply them. You see since then things happened (i read the game) and so now I have MORE INFORMATION what exactly is the problem here buddyboy

and im asking you why is wavetown because Im speaking to you like you're a town and a better player then me and I want to see the reasons, not inspect your thought process.

[Awoo]

That's a good point because I don't think my reasons behind any of my reads in that post were sufficient either. I mean look at that post i was tring mutant and nsg wtf?

[Awoo]

Good observation math
Here let me talk about myself for a bit for everyone:
I have a bit of off site experience since I last played, and I found that one of the best ways for ME to figure out the game (note: not necessarily other people) is to take a stance on something that I'm not sure on (the exact team, xyz's alignment) and announce it as if I believe it. Especially in the lategame. Basically keep throwing ideas around until I get something that works. And as a bonus, this creates interactions, reactions... etc as people react to these (often backwards) ideas. That was the motivation of my first post, I read a few random pages and took some random opinions. Its kind of a selfish way of playing because sometimes I get scumread for it, but then I can just analyze WHY the scumread. = still generates valuable content. And I am NOT going to say what I am looking for to find scum when people are scumreading me. People described me as the master of omgus, but it was almost always accurate omgus Sadly this game I can talk to 2 players x( NSG and math x(


here i will now read NSG

117 -- oh so she was busy. That explains the reading a biting / burning / lazy tone that did not seem like any NSG i have ever seen before. Literally I read different = mafia LOL shit I just killed my own case before I started to write it
147 -- is the post that I sheeped in my opening to call mutant town, i no longer agree with that after rereading, and upon reread, I disliked how soon after this point in the game the momentum for mutant died

OK so maybe there isn't a good reason to scumread MSG, if and only if the tone thing I saw is invalid. MAYBE I can write off the mutant momentum dying as co-incidence but I think that the post from mutant 147 is replying to is more incriminating then a write off as town post. Consider rereading it

[Awoo]

Conclusion: I don't want to kill MSG anymore and would rather park my vote on AA unless mutant gains steam again, since AA made some really bad posts.

( fun fact 11-2 EV is 0.39 and town does worse then EV in vanilla in practice :S )

[Awoo]

(no idea what you're talking about bujaber sry)
I think duck seems genuine in his posts.
197
250 - gives me those feels of a townie trying to learn from thier mistakes you feel me?
Unreal wagon start seemed pure too. Might look at that more closely later.

#1 fear in this game is that mutant is a scum slot and replaces out and a good player replaces in and never gets lynched.

[Awoo]

My biggest problem with you is you've been all defense and wifom (I would do xyz if I was mafia ) and very little content. Don't defend yourself by responding to me, show me a thought process. I'm not accepting "I'll do it later in the game", show me literally anything because I don't like anything you have so far and if you're town it shouldn't be that hard.

[Awoo]

I can kinda respect that.

[Awoo]

Let AA post again before we lynch her, wtf?

[Awoo]

Also, you are town so can we stop arguing please?

OK that was pretty bad

[Awoo]

addendum to theory: if uglyduck flips scum bujaber is innocent child

[Awoo]

Show me the scioness scum view, I have scion as high town. (but i havent really thought about it)

[Awoo]

who is this guy?

[Awoo]

@uglyduck

The reason "you're still town btw stop arguing" is bad is because I've only ever seen mafia do it - then watch town!gingiee call me out for it.

[Awoo]

i think NSG's callout of scion is actually top quality

[Awoo]

UNVOTE:

[Awoo]

Still waiting for a reason not to lynch AA9

[Awoo]

I feel like AA9 is not definitively scum and most likely will flip town, and what does that give us? makes invis/mutant look bad. which is not terrible since last time I checked I want to lynch mutant. and the reason I unvoted is because there was 2 votes from 2 slots I dont like putting aa at L-1. The whole situation is giving me *least charismatic player gets lynched* vibes, and the reason I say "still waiting for a reason not to lynch AA9" is that I'm talking directly to you, AA9, GIVE ME SOME REASON NOT TO LYNCH YOU if you're town.

Despite saying all of that I am not 100% against lynching the slot if it continues to tank and even a town flip gets us something. and also we have time in the day. And maybe I Would lynch uglyduck since that bad post.

also if I seem partner partner with AA9 and AA9 flips scum then 1-1 is a #worth trade LOL

OK lets go over the facts of the case 1 more time

Town: Math / Wingedcat / wave / bujabe / - power gap - / NSG / scion

... 13 people and I can only find 6 comfortable town wtf?? o shit forgot myself that makes 7 looking a bit better now

VOTE: uglyduck

[Awoo]

ah **** hes just to sweet i cant do it UNVOTE:
VOTE: AA9 lets be honest im torn between two towns idk who mafia is anymore

[Awoo]

i would vote for mutant given a wagon btw +1 support point +1 like +1 prayer

[Awoo]

I will, thank you

[Awoo]

Lets lynch invisiblity when he gets back from his VLA. I will vote on this wagon.

VOTE: Scioness

[Awoo]

flashwagoning in this dead game? I forgot I was in it yesterday.

Invis/seal is tomorrow's lynch until proven otherwise.

[Awoo]

VOTE: ArcAngel9

COME ON PEOPLE 2 DAYS LEFT LYNCH SOMETHING

[Awoo]

UglyDuck (1): , BuJaber
ArcAngel9(4) : UnrealSeal, mutantdevle, Mathdino Awoo
mutantdevle (1): UglyDuck
Scioness Sajj (4): Myloninja13 Invisibility, ArcAngel9 Scioness Sajj
Unrealseal (1): wavemode


Not voting: northsidegal, wingedcatgirl,


I will continue to vote for whatever the most popular wagon is in {unrealseal, AA9, invisiblity} maybe throw in uglyduck.

[Awoo]

Mylo, switch your vote to one of the people we're lynching today.

[Awoo]

VOTE: unrealseal
combo

[Awoo]

VOTE: Invisibility

LYNCH SOMEBODY

[Awoo]

@everyone CHOOSE INVISIBLITY

[Awoo]

3 MORE VOTES 1 MORE DAYS

[Awoo]

then put him in

[Awoo]

No bones about it, I will literally vote anyone who isn't super town at this point.

AA9, what the fuck are you doing not voting invis.

[Awoo]

Hey, that's a good nightkill, wasn't 100% on her.

[Awoo]

TOP 3 poe. Wow, its 3 lurkers. AA9 is notably missing from this list.

Myloninja13
wingedcatgirl
Unreal Seal
VOTE: unreal seal

[Awoo]

literally why is even this going through your head

[Awoo]

....probably for the wifom factor
... what if you were mafia and you planned a kill to frame mathdino

see, I can do wifom too

[Awoo]

VOTE: uglyduck

[Awoo]

Yeah I have a question for uglyduck:

Are you capable of giving me some HOT content that will show that you are town?

[Awoo]

wagoning mutant? probably the best choice. But uglyduck is looking fine right now. for a wagon. And i think you misspelled panties.


Just dont speedlynch duck unless he scumclaims. We still need to wagon mutant today. Lets get the most out of life and probably lynch mutant today.

Math's hard defense of duck is making me want to lynch duck more to prove they're (not) partners. Stupid conspiracy, but imagine you're a 200 IQ player in this setup in this game and you rolled scum with a 2018 join date. Don't take this dumb conspiracy seriously.


Duck... continue 879. Did you ever read me? did you ever continue thinking ? y dont you like the wagons??? whos the scum on them? etc.

If you're town do what I do when Im town and getting wagoned, sit down for 30-45 min, open some ISO's, make a post, some reads, smoke a marijuanna cigarette (NOTE: skip this step) ... etc, etc.

[Awoo]

mutant ... town? ehhhhhhhhhhh :/ if he is town I am probably just incapable of townreading him for long because I dont like the way he writes posts

[Awoo]

heyy we're online at the same time whats up

[Awoo]

I think someone called seal town, or seal did something that made me think he was town enough not to be my vote. And I think there was a wagon on duck so I joined it 'cause I see the stuff against him.

[Awoo]

I dont like your tone. Not like its scummy but you as a person

[Awoo]

Mutant has some weird wagons. Maybe town

[Awoo]

do it big guy i dare you

[Awoo]

Just dont speedlynch duck unless he scumclaims. We still need to wagon mutant today. Lets get the most out of life and probably lynch mutant today.

What happened to this awoo?

plan is still wait for uDuck to catch up and decide between him and mutant from there. Just styling on wave atm

[Awoo]

I actually do kinda like seal for that. Or did I already say that? idk check my iso. If that doesn't work try reading my mind, its in there somewhere.

2 of the people I want dead most are on my wagon. and idk about lavos yet he is posting so much content that is making me uncomftrable. Not about his alignment or anything, I just get squeamish when people post too many times in my slowmo chillout neighborhood game.

I'm down to kill duck.

Let me try reading lavos right now:
Actually I really like this guy. I dont think its a low standard for the game thing either. hops in, interacts, feels good. I think his scumread and progression on me isnt half bad either, but I'm not going to say why until both mutant and duck are dead LMAO

[Awoo]

it was just a jab at how slow the game was don't get upset

[Awoo]

Counterpoint if I was mafia I think I might be putting a lot of effort into PT's since I want to appeal to townies therefore you can expect a higher standard of trying to be town in them.

[Awoo]

seal's 1062 is super town.
and I think uglyduck's recent post is. not that bad. Its probably exactly uglyduck/math if uglyduck scum. aaand i kind of want to kill mutant more to see if math dies in the night? hahah yeah right its going to be bujab nk'd who am i kidding

So. That leaves who exactly? Mylo. Lavos. Mutant. ...this game is unwinnable im out of steam for today. someone explain why we are all giving mylo a free pass through the game before i wake up. not unvoting duck just yet. I want to see a mutant wagon when I wake up. Please do all the work for me.

[Awoo]

That's a good idea, I should hydra with my mom!

[Awoo]

what if it really was uglyduck - mathdino

[Awoo]

BTW lavos im sorry for putting you in my POE by mistake please forgive me and for the record (SELFMETA WARNING) I tend to have very fixed positions as mafia and trap myself into thinking "the way to win the game is mislynch X -> mislynch Y -> mislynch Z, kill ABC", read my scumgames (purgatory comes to mind)

[Awoo]

bujab who is the scum if you get nk'd? You better make that clear because the way this game is going, you're an active, engaged townie in a vanilla snoozefest, those don't last long.

[Awoo]

Hey new neighbor.

[Awoo]

Alright looks like we have some counterclaims to deal with

[Awoo]

seal I feel similarly but I also want to do what bujaber says and "lynch him later".

[Awoo]

ITT: awoo's jokes fall flat time and time again and he needs to keep apologizing for them

[Awoo]

Given this gamestate, I have ZERO hope of getting a wagon off of myself. I am guilty as charged of all the wagonhopping I am doing.

[Awoo]

Im actually town playing with a scum mindset. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
a

like "ehh they seem lynchable, lets try it "

[Awoo]

wait, am I about to be lynched?

[Awoo]

UNVOTE: the least I can do is trust the duck/dino thing I suppose. Who the heck is almost50? oh wtf this is mathdino 0_o


I don't know who I want to lynch but I know it isn't me I will get to this game and give it my best tonight.

[Awoo]

OK A50 im townreading you just based on the fact that you put me as light town when I have a big wagon on me. Not like I didn't think math was town or anything >>

[Awoo]

OK, lets try it then. VOTE: tornaga

[Awoo]

UNVOTE:
Good.

I have no scum reads and a few sort of town reads and a few town reads. FUCK

[Awoo]

VOTE: unrealseal its not deadline yet is it?

[Awoo]

if we do kill tornaga -> town its always seal dying tmr.

[Awoo]

I love this game "Hey lets vote up this guy! " * L-1 * "woah guys im town * "Oh hey a squirrel!" *squirrel is now at L-1

[Awoo]

OKay,,, VOTE: mutant I will 100% go back to seal at the drop of a hat though.

[Awoo]

hat dropped VOTE: unrealseal

[Awoo]

Shit, I died. I guess being scum partners with 3 different people doesn't help my case any :S but I really don't know what you guys are going to get out of the upcoming town flip.
Like ok, scummy guy flipped town. Then what? I really want to lynch my "partners" right now instead of me.

I'll leave you with this. Special thanks to tornaga for adding some ambiguity to who dies tonight.


{tornaga, bujab}
{a50, scion, lavos}
{mylo}
--- power gap ----
{duck, wave} <-- the "seems town but idk how to feel about them but others say town" pile.
{scion}
(mutant, seal, myself )

[Awoo]

yes, sadly I am...

[Awoo]

You know how sometimes you're mafia and you're like "man i wish I wasn't here right now my team is getting destroyed" i din't know town could feel that way

[Awoo]

only when I have lost all motivation to play

[Awoo]

*teleports behind you*
pssh... kill uglyduck tomorrow... kid
*flips green*
VOTE: awoo
"but for me... it was tuesday..."

[Awoo]

sry i know its bad play to selfhammer as town but oops

[Awoo]

what the fuck? I just fake selfhammered myself?

*blinks* well in case Im still getting mindfucked UNVOTE:
VOTE: uglyduck

[Awoo]

I already removed this game from my bookmarks and everything wtf is going on

[Awoo]

I bet thats a fake hammer too, you were probably already voting me.

[Awoo]

OK SO LETS KILL UGLYDUCK TODAY BECAUSE

1. he is my partner according to someone (if he flips red i'd gladly die next for that sweet 1-1 trade)
2. hes scummy and stuff

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OK REAL CONTENT IM PROMISING YOU GUYS:

A lot of people have gone from null / lurksack / ???? into kind of towny or at least getting townread and I also townread them too. Like for some examples:

wavemode faded out and made me nervous ie. sitting back as town cannabilizes itself by lynching its only anime girl, but his reactions to recent events are towny
mylo is as far as I can tell doing what he does as town
AA9 was ESL memeslot but I like tornaga.
I also like WCG's replacement when I iso'd him. I still dont know for certain if Im dead or not so Im not going to iso again in case mod locks.
Seal is weird and I read weirdness as towny. His play seemed kind of counterintuitive for mafia ie. pushing mathdino drawing attention to himself doesn't really make sense. But suddenly everyone saying I was his partner so I supported his lynch to test that theory.



That's a lot of null that started leaning town. And uglyduck is notably missing from that list. Mutant as well. So either that's the exact scumteam (lmao) or I/we are giving out townreads too easily. So its like my whole readslist is shifted slightly to the towny side making duck look that much worse, but also stressing me out since I think there is scum in this clump of null but light town block.

"Light town is the new null" is what im trying to say. So im going back and forth wagon to wagon hoping to get a stronger read then "light town" on someone. And I got that on tornaga so far.

[Awoo]

I think we have 3 votes on duck? Thats a good number, lets kill it. He's only got his partner to fight a fast wagon if he's mafia and thats 1 person.

[Awoo]

Sorry but if you want to get a good read on me you can't look at my posts.

LOOOOL

What I meant is that remember that one thing with math says duck is town because of PT behavior but still its kinda dubious because duck is really scummy? And hell yeah Im going to vote someone with votes on them right next to the deadline

Im a walking contradiction, my reads are in a quantum state. I personally think that's the opposite of my mafia play taken to an unreasonable extreme ('cause in my mafia play I get stuck thinking ok, mislynch these people in this order -> win game and it really shows)

[Awoo]

Like im sorry you have to go through this its never been this bad before I ususally have some cohereance but this game is in a special state like I said. Null-town is the new null.

[Awoo]

ya