Transformers Mafia - Dinobots STRONGEST!

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hi this is an exciting event

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lemme just lynch my scumpartner

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i'd investigate mariar any day tbh

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i wasn't really talking about investigating at all

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are you calling me scum fire?

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oh thank you

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that is too cute

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you're not a cinnamon roll rb regardless of what postie seems to think

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also it's extremely easy to throw out a cheap townread onto creature and you shouldn't townread people for doing that.

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VOTE: firebringer

if you were town you'd be reading creature differently from what you are

i don't actually know your read on creature rn to be fair but it's definitely not what it would be if you were town

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creature's scumgame is to post one thing scummy and then lurk for the rest of the game while RC fervantly defends him kappa

RC knows better than to jump to a conclusion on creature and plays the long game to read him.

If I had been able to play my game without you two buffoons trying to fakeclaim guilties on me when I was town we never lost that game.

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What do you mean all other parties

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i stopped wanting to play this game tbh

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VOTE: katsuki

alignments don't even matter

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VOTE: neither

sure

unless kats does something to make me want him alive

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or maria

we could kill both of them and basically get 2 lynches

unfortunate that the targets aren't necessarily optimal but it's better to get 2 lynches than 1.

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@Gamma killing both would mean no-one gets Scrap/Energon which would mean we're potentially missing out on game-changing night actions

I don't think the possibility of a Doc/BG is outlandish and even if I think FB is dumb, he's still very likely a town VI which means his night action could still help at least a little bit

plus, I think it's too early to vote neither since Kats could still possibly be useful during day play

not too optimistic after that first post though.

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does anyone have a better night action than making the game double day?

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this may be the case

but a free extra lynch at essentially random is +town equity

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from a mechanical standpoint, one of firebringer or katsuki would have to be very significantly above null for me to consider not voting neither.

i honestly think rn that katsuki is scum and just made up that strong cop because he knew he had to win the 1v1 because all the sketchy votes are going over to the katsuki surviving side. the best resolution to this either way is to just kill them both.

same rationale behind why you lynch D1 instead of NL, random lynches can hit scum, nightkills can't. upping the amount of random lynches relative to nightkills increases the odds of scum getting hit.

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and kats is spewing abject bullshit

everyone in this game knows that this is something that town firebringer would do

it isn't necessarily something town firebringer has done because firebringer is able to have done this as scum, but his position is indefensible

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um

this doesn't feel real

it doesn't, whatsoever
wouldn't even be surprised if it's scum theatre

in which case, again, the proper play is to kill both parties.

If the cop ability claim is a fakeclaim Katsuki'll be sorted relatively quickly

I haven't seen enough to actually want either lynched let alone both

no he won't. the amount of people who in 2018 are competent at this game that are in this lobby is miniscule. it would be not at all difficult for katsuki to make a few nightkills then handwave the fact that he isn't dying.

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"get away with it"

firebringer does random shit

are you two both scum?

VOTE: firebringer

that katsuki play doesn't feel real

i can see that fb could be scum gambiting but i don't get why that means i'd want him dead

er, unless he's going to duel every day like this

VOTE NEITHER PLS FRIEND.

and if its a true random duel fb doesnt just go and duel someone who's proven to be a huge threat to scum as town in all their games thus far this year

see u know better than to try to apply this kind of functional reasoning to firebringer

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if I was scum, regardless of whether there's scum in the 1v1, I'd fake a strong opinion on the matter one way or the other and garner towncred off of this
i am 1) taking the mathematically optimal approach and 2) making a play that will hurt my standing regardless of the result

I can't play to be townread as town when it comes into conflict with playing to win the game.

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I 100% don't think that Katsuki is towny but I also don't think that his overblown bullshit only comes from scum.
At this point it's not about would you lynch Katsuki but would you doc him if the kill was free: I would not doc him if the kill was free and I don't think anyone should take the position that they would.

Like I feel for him if he's town and got screwed over here but this is the correct approach to the game.

Is winning really the most important thing to you Radiant?

I don't even know if winning is important to be anymore, tbh. I have no idea why I join mafia games, I do it basically on autopilot then regret it when the games start.

I don't want to be in this game with RC on day 2.

Thats why I want Neither.

. I wouldn't have been in this game if I wasn't asked to be.

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the issue isn't me wanting to lynch both of them, the issue is the selection of duels.

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I don't think that you game threw regardless of what the result here is in terms of flips

I wish you wanted to keep playing. I'd offer to replace out if your slot wasn't in jeopardy already.

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Maria be nice please

yes I think it obviously does bother him because firebringer likes you and when you say things that are hurtful it hurts him.

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idk what I did to make you not like me fire.

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I changed my mind. I'm hitching a ride on the injustice train.

Ride or die Cupcake!

VOTE: Katsuki

sketchy as hell.

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EDWARD KHAZIF'S WARES ARE BEAUTIFUL

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the longer you keep up with this obviously dumb shtick that relies on both spyrex and andrius somehow both fucking up so colossally that they put the scumteam in a totally separate player group, instead of actually scumhunting, the more inclined i am to scumread you

On I think my first ever modded game I actually put the people in game in the order of the rolls

so the first 3 or bottom 3 on the first vc, I forget, were all scum, and all the PRs were in order

let me find this

(not suggesting that this is what happened unless we get scum flips in that pile and none elsewhere)

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if skygazer can clear herself we'll let her duel whoever we as a collective think is scum tomorrow.

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it doesn't really matter, does it?

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regardless of alignment I have neither the mental energy nor the inclination to kiss up to the rest of the playerlist in the way that would be necessary for my slot to ever survive past the first few games if I don't get nightkilled. I'll duel scum on day 3/4 and go down with them.

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oh I actually just personally checked the playerlist for the first time: yall are kind of silly for not understanding what happened.

the names at the end of the list start with non-capitalized letters but are in alphabetical order, so whatever ordering method the mods used puts capitals in front of lowercase.

there's zero significance to the ordering.

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if both of them are town

the best possible thing we can do here is to deal with both of them right now

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if one of them is scum

then maybe it's optimal to save the town but not really required, 1 for 1 is fine

or even worse we could save the town in the pair instead of the scum statistically 50% of the time which is no bueno at all

if they're both scum which I don't see as literally impossible, it massively behooves us to lynch them both today

the ends some people seem to be playing to are strange.

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and frankly we do get information from both flipping town, we get to look through peoples reactions and try to decipher which are scum reactions to a fucking field day for them.

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if either aren't lynched today my first post tomorrow is a duel on whoever lived regardless of the other's flip.

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if either aren't lynched today my first post tomorrow is a duel on whoever lived regardless of the other's flip.

Yeah how about we don't use the duel mechanics because I'll be voting for your death if you do that.

thats fine, we're both dying though.

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it's mostly katsuki that needs to die imo because his ate was gross and a whole bunch of people shit nakedvoted to save him with no reasons given

but the idea of trying to lynch firebringer if I realize he's scum later with 'oh why would he do this as scum' leaves a sour taste in my mouth and I'd rather just be done with both of them.

it's also optimal to clear them out so

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i tr the surrounding play enough to be fine-ish with him living though it's far far better to kill both

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am i your top townread or are you a shitty paragon

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no and yes*

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WTF ANDRIUS IS IN THIS GAME

HOLY WAR MOTHERFUCKER

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Maria you thinking I'm scum makes me sad.

I'll just duel start of D2 and get out of this lobby because if I'm not townread at this point I'll never be.

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RC IS 100% SCUM BUT NO ONES GONNA LYNCH HIM AFTER IM DEAD LOL

100% scum 100% scum 100% scum

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I'm not trying to towntell tho

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But I'm town so is that just confirmation you're scum or are you SECRETLY not as good as you think you are

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Fuck you too cupcake

I feel like no one knows me personally fire

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I mean

Everyone tells me that I'm scummy because I'm always trying to look town y and if I just let my natural towniness shine through I'd be townread!

Like anyone would ever scumread a random person with my current ISO.

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Neither it boyz

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I had a great post on the matter

But in postgame we can all agree if Kats was town scumreading me then his loss was no great loss t b h

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Diaf maria

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Fire why does it even matter at this point

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What does he do as scum here

Answer basically this

As town?

Answer basically this but a lot less emphasis on himself and a lot more on how I 100% need to die because I'm the Antichrist and everyone's gonna not scumread me rabble rabble

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If anything I'm scumreading him not making his sole objective in the game room yell about how I definitely need to die like I'd expect a wall post about how you all can't be trusted to read me by now. Hie focus is on survival rather than ensuring my downfall and I think that's the case because he isn't actually town. I'll duel scum D2 anyway worry not your pretty little heads about it

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But all y'all scumreading me owe it to me to fuck off hard next time we're in a game together cuz this is getting old

Obvsly if you're scum you get immunity

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I think Kats thinks this is the best approach as scum because coming off as over eager to survive is scummy in and of itself and he's liable to get townread for lack of effort to avoid the lynch

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He likes to lurkerscum, his actual reactionary play isn't specially good

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You should be rethinking the lack of milkies for Daddy Rengar

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From here on out I'm just here to meme btw

Unless people start nor trying to neither

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MariaR gets duelled by me tomorrow if both flips are town btw

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I'd be willing to vote for firebringer to survive at this point but if Katsuki flips town that would get really ugly

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That was a dumb dayvig

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Stungun says very dumb things

Whether it makes him scum, eh

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If that's really a scum dayvig we should be lynching in the older players who would see dgb as a threat.

I don't believe it was unless it's Kats trying to get his action out and semi spew himself town by a person voting him surviving dying

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Wow me and fire are agreeing again

I'm almost tempted to just vote Kats now

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I really wish fate was around while Kats was around

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I'd dayvig Kats because his town game horrifies me and he's gonna catch the shit out of me as scum

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I'd dayvig Kats because his town game horrifies me and he's gonna catch the shit out of me as scum

Luckily we have the opportunity to kill Katsuki in the duel.

Such an easy game

Ty based firebringer for handing us the game

Now that good scumhunts Katsuki is gone and second god DGB has been dayvigged none can stand against us

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Why is that town, maybe

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That is not death to cupcake

That is saving cupcake

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Eat the cupcakes

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Eat the fucking cupcakes

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It's really unfortunate that my top townread is the one who.claimed confirmed town

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i didn't even get to play the game