Mini 2020: Destiny III: Cosmic Mafia [終わり]

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:06 am

In post 1949, thepixiecollective wrote:isn't that the exact same speech you gave in reck's game lol

SEE DGB

LLD WILL BUS HER BUDDIES IF YOU LET HER

I am sold on the scum!feysal vig, cos that is a pretty big slip

VOTE: kuribo

also can we not lose sight that nacho is in this game, hasn't reached out to any1 who's posts read like watching paint dry

like nacho really is a thing that exists in this game

YEAH FEYSAL IS MY BUDDY BEEP BEEP

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:06 am

In post 236, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 234, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 163, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Maria and Kuribo's bigus dickus contest over who knows me more ending in a draw makes me feel they're both town. Or both scum? I don't see that interaction coming from TvS and them both being scum doesn't fit what I'm feeling in gut soooooooooooooooo call them both town.

Katsuki is doing Katsuki things. Would like to hear more from Camn head, will be easier to parse. Could lynch this slot literally any time, the longer it lives the worse Katsuki's lurkaderp live until endgame style is going to become a problem due to paranoia.

Ghost's response(124) to Kuribo's threat(44) is weak and feels very much like they know that backing down from Kuribo there gets them hung, but they don't know how to properly play it out, so they went for the classic "I don't care". It looks like they care. A lot. I don't like it.

Staeg calling my lazy ass posting about Espy very good is weird but not suspicious? I don't think staeg does that as scum buttttttttttttttttttttttttttt it certainly is kinda /shrug

Espy's response to my post is more of the same strategy? It's weird they doubled down on getting ahead of the push, when I called them out of it. It's NAI, but weird. Makes me twitch.

That said I have a bigger problem. Feysal's post regarding Espy is fucking AWFUL.

How are you going to, in the same post, do all the following

1) Call me town
2) Call my reasoning for voting Espy bad
3) Vote espy yourself

there's a disconnect there somewhere I just don't.... get it. If you think he's scum, then clearly my reasoning aligned into yours and found the right target. Why discredit that reasoning and the put your vote there?

Vote: Feysal

"makes me feel they're both town. Or both scum?" WISHY WASHY SCUM COMMENT

"Would like to hear more from Camn head, will be easier to parse." So camn is readable BUT: "until endgame [Katsuki's] style is going to become a problem due to paranoia. " Building a framework for future paranoia. SCUM

"classic "I don't care". It looks like they care. A lot. I don't like it." UGH????????????????? "I don't like it" is a superfluous, meaningless "conclusion." It leaves the door open to anything.

"
I don't think
staeg does that as scum
buttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
it certainly is
kinda /shrug
" - ULTIMATE SCUM making a comment to literally make no comment.

Feysal is LLD's buddy.
Ok then?

Lynch Feysal with me then.

In post 237, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:COME ON DGB.

THINK I'M BUSSING?

CHOO CHOO ALL ABOARD BITCH

thepixiecollective · Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:15 am

In post 1950, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1949, thepixiecollective wrote:isn't that the exact same speech you gave in reck's game lol

SEE DGB

LLD WILL BUS HER BUDDIES IF YOU LET HER

I am sold on the scum!feysal vig, cos that is a pretty big slip

VOTE: kuribo

also can we not lose sight that nacho is in this game, hasn't reached out to any1 who's posts read like watching paint dry

like nacho really is a thing that exists in this game
YEAH FEYSAL IS MY BUDDY BEEP BEEP

yep its why I don't mind him dying

and I will sheep dgb in the next day round

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:17 am

I'm catching up now.
I would say something like "please don't confirm kuribo as Leo King before I have time to read the game", buuuut Fate's modding so I'll probably have plenty of time anyways.

AnonymousGhost · Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:45 am

In post 1914, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1911, kuribo wrote:edirected to Dunns rather
So he didn't send a kill.

I can confirm this. Dunn didn't take any action last night.

AnonymousGhost · Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:45 am

oh. lol. You were referring to Feysal.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:58 am

In post 1946, kuribo wrote:I find it hard to believe that 1- that's how Feysal knows we're in multiball, 2- that he's a town aligned half-Miller that shows up as scum to scum, and 3- that his bah post from yesterday, which contained no mention of multiball or a pseudo-Miller, or any sort of useful information could have come from town who thought he'd just been roped

So in response to 1, I think that Feysal's point of view makes a lot of sense here and it's something he's post 161 hinting at since pretty early game. If Feysal is scum here and knows that it's multiball, I really don't think this is how he plays it. Feysal is an intelligent person. If he is scum, he's claiming in an effort to be seen as town. I don't think any person claiming what Feysal is right now for towncred could be called anything but "fucking insane".

In response to 3, I think that your point would be much much stronger if Feysal was a mason or a cop. If I'm quickhammered as a vanilla townie, I'll go "fuck you guys that was a horrible lynch" but I won't feel obligated to claim a role that doesn't really matter whereas when I get quickhammered as a strong PR I should have claimed my response is more along the lines of "I'm a cop - if you would have let me claimed I could have cleared myself but instead you just had to shit the bed". I don't understand why Feysal would mention multiball when hammered - it's an inference that he made based on his role and it's something that we'd figure out pretty quickly with his flip/by night 1, and it's not something that's guaranteed to be true. If he was feeling cooperative and dumping information everywhere then I'd feel differently but that's not the type of mood it seemed like he was in.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:18 pm

In post 1885, thepixiecollective wrote:you said you thought I was scum?

no, i didn't. and i don't. to be blunt, unless your scum game has vastly improved over the last couple years when i wasn't playing, i don't think you're capable of acting like you have this game as scum (sorry if you think this is mean, i don't really mean it to be, but i don't have the time or energy to invest in mafia right now to walk you through my read delicately and you are clearly misinterpreting something somewhere and i don't know where)

Dunnstral · Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:27 pm

VOTE: zMuffinMan

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:28 pm

In post 576, zMuffinMan wrote:don't really like the staeg defense - i wouldn't classify anything staeg's posted as "snarky" but even if i squint and look at his posts sideways, i can't see what he's referring to. nacho's reasoning for voting me feels pretty weak. don't really like the fact he put a lot more effort into talking about things other than his primary scum read, especially since he should know it's going to take a lot more than that to actually get me lynched (i get that he's time-constrained but he had enough time to post the rest of what he posted so yeah)

i will talk the most about things that i either A) feel strongly about, or B) feel are most relevant.
you being my primary scumread didn't mean that you were a particularly strong read. i'm not arrogant enough to believe that i'll have a significant impact in getting someone lynched when i'm not a significant presence in the game.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:29 pm

In post 1958, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: zMuffinMan

?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:30 pm

i believe feysal's role claim. i think it's more likely a scum role, though

and i don't really think feysal is playing like town anyway so i just want to see his flip

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:31 pm

nacho's #1956 makes sense, it doesn't make feysal's actions any more likely to be town though

Dunnstral · Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:33 pm

In post 1959, Nachomamma8 wrote:i'm not arrogant enough to believe that i'll have a significant impact in getting someone lynched when i'm not a significant presence in the game.

Your vote mislynched kokichi when the rest of us thought Feysal was being lynched

So good job

I told you why Kokichi was a bad vote yesterday

Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1958, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: zMuffinMan
?

I''ll vote anonymousghost too for leo king, which do you prefer?

kuribo · Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:35 pm

In post 1956, Nachomamma8 wrote:it's an inference that he made based on his role and it's something that we'd figure out pretty quickly with his flip/by night 1

You're making my point without trying to. He already knew he'd flip factional scum, and so he had no need to reveal that to town. Again, it would take an extraordinarily bad player to not mention that as lynched town, and I do not believe Feysal to be an extraordinarily bad player.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:35 pm

anonymousghost.
are those the only 2 votes you're willing to make?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:36 pm

In post 1964, kuribo wrote:You're making my point without trying to. He already knew he'd flip factional scum, and so he had no need to reveal that to town. Again, it would take an extraordinarily bad player to not mention that as lynched town, and I do not believe Feysal to be an extraordinarily bad player.

i really don't understand the point you're making.
i wouldn't claim my role if i was in feysal's position.

AnonymousGhost · Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:36 pm

Kuribo was already hammered by Pixie to be Leo King on the last page.

AnonymousGhost · Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:36 pm

I just checked.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:37 pm

In post 1965, Nachomamma8 wrote:are those the only 2 votes you're willing to make?

no, I think you and staeg are town but I don't trust you guys to make a good shot, there's other people I'd be okay with having it too

AnonymousGhost · Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:38 pm

Why would you trust me?!

kuribo · Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:38 pm

In post 1966, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1964, kuribo wrote:You're making my point without trying to. He already knew he'd flip factional scum, and so he had no need to reveal that to town. Again, it would take an extraordinarily bad player to not mention that as lynched town, and I do not believe Feysal to be an extraordinarily bad player.
i really don't understand the point you're making.
i wouldn't claim my role if i was in feysal's position.

And I would, if I were Town in his position.

So you see how pointless this circle is.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:39 pm

In post 1961, zMuffinMan wrote:i believe feysal's role claim. i think it's more likely a scum role, though

and i don't really think feysal is playing like town anyway so i just want to see his flip

why do you think that it's more likely to be a scum role?
why don't you think he's playing like town?

kuribo · Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:42 pm

In post 1970, AnonymousGhost wrote:Why would you trust me?!

You weren't speaking to me, but I will say I told DGB last night that I believe you're the scum's designated whipping boy, the mislynch they keep in the pocket, the town player who looks just scummy enough to keep around and lynch last.

This was before the multiball stuff, though, so having two scumteams of two instead of one of three makes things muddier.

In short, I don't trust you per se (and hell that ain't exactly a condemnation since I trust so few) but there are others whose blood is spill before yours.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:44 pm

In post 1971, kuribo wrote:And I would, if I were Town in his position.So you see how pointless this circle is.

The case you're pushing, as I understand it, is that most townies in Feysal's position would have fully claimed. I disagree. I disagree because I certainly wouldn't have claimed in his position, and I disagree because I think that there are two attitudes when you've been prematurely lynched - there's an "oh fuck" attitude where you try to scribble down everything you possibly can and there's a "fuck you guys I'm out" attitude when you'll occasionally claim to demonstrate how the people who lynched you were idiots, but you won't offer up information otherwise. Feysal was clearly feeling more of the latter.

Can you talk about the point that you were making that I accidentally proved?