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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:45 pm

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In post 1972, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1961, zMuffinMan wrote:i believe feysal's role claim. i think it's more likely a scum role, though

and i don't really think feysal is playing like town anyway so i just want to see his flip
why do you think that it's more likely to be a scum role?
why don't you think he's playing like town?
And I really really really don't see Feysal being so open about his role if he is honestly claiming.
Like how the fuck is that something that you rand and go "yep, this role looks town, I'm most certainly going to claim it"? And if he felt that way about it then why was he so very clearly uncomfortable claiming?
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:45 pm

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That's fine. Thanks for being honest with me, Kuribo.
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:48 pm

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In post 1971, kuribo wrote:And I would, if I were Town in his position.So you see how pointless this circle is.
The case you're pushing, as I understand it, is that most townies in Feysal's position would have fully claimed. I disagree. I disagree because I certainly wouldn't have claimed in his position, and I disagree because I think that there are two attitudes when you've been prematurely lynched - there's an "oh fuck" attitude where you try to scribble down everything you possibly can and there's a "fuck you guys I'm out" attitude when you'll occasionally claim to demonstrate how the people who lynched you were idiots, but you won't offer up information otherwise. Feysal was clearly feeling more of the latter.

Can you talk about the point that you were making that I accidentally proved?
You're saying that his flip would have made multiball apparent. I'm agreeing with you for the opposite reason: he didn't say anything because he knew he was flipping factional scum anyway.
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:50 pm

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So if he was feeling "lmao fuck you" when he thought he was lynched, why hasn't he tried to redeem himself today? I've campaigned from the start of the day on the platform of putting a bullet between his eyes, and again he just gives up?

Is this a pro-town attitude?
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:52 pm

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it's been 24 hours.
we're supposed to have 168 hours to decide on a lynch.

it's premature to bury him for not redeeming himself right now.
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:52 pm

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hahaha i'm gr8 at math
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:53 pm

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But he's posted in those 24 hours and his only "redemption" was "Hay Guys I'm gonna die but I'm okay with that and also I'm a reverse miller"
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:53 pm

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Nacho I don't care what you think because you asked me why Kokichi was a bad lynch, I laid out at least 5 reasons, then you disappeared and never talked about it and were on the kokichi mislynch. You don't get to defend Feysal now when that's what people were trying to lynch yesterday - his lynch was decided yesterday. Your vote on kokichi caused a mislynch there instead, so sorry but I'm not sorry, you shouldn't have mislynched Kokichi who wasn't even scummy
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:54 pm

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In post 1977, kuribo wrote:You're saying that his flip would have made multiball apparent. I'm agreeing with you for the opposite reason: he didn't say anything because he knew he was flipping factional scum anyway.
I'm saying his flip would have given us all the information he had which was not only unimportant, but also unreliable. That's not "town NEEDS to know this or it impacts their chances of a win" level information.
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:54 pm

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Miller that only appears as scum to scum cops isn't a scummy role to claim
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:56 pm

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In post 1982, Dunnstral wrote:Nacho I don't care what you think because you asked me why Kokichi was a bad lynch, I laid out at least 5 reasons, then you disappeared and never talked about it and were on the kokichi mislynch. You don't get to defend Feysal now when that's what people were trying to lynch yesterday - his lynch was decided yesterday. Your vote on kokichi caused a mislynch there instead, so sorry but I'm not sorry, you shouldn't have mislynched Kokichi who wasn't even scummy
I don't understand why you're as frustrated as you are with me right now.
I'm sorry I wasn't around yesterday, and I'm sorry that I apathetically contributed to a mislynch. It wasn't intentional, but I've fucked up a hell of a lot worse countless times before so I'm not going to give up on trying to play the game because I did something bad.
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:56 pm

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In post 1984, Dunnstral wrote:Miller that only appears as scum to scum cops isn't a scummy role to claim

It is if you're a godfather that appears to scum as scum.
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:57 pm

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(...countless times before and it didn't stop me then...)***
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:57 pm

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In post 1983, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1977, kuribo wrote:You're saying that his flip would have made multiball apparent. I'm agreeing with you for the opposite reason: he didn't say anything because he knew he was flipping factional scum anyway.
I'm saying his flip would have given us all the information he had which was not only unimportant, but also unreliable. That's not "town NEEDS to know this or it impacts their chances of a win" level information.

And since he hasn't claimed a role name, how sure are we that even his flip would make it clear?
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:59 pm

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In post 1710, Fate wrote:


The missing Archetypes concern everyone.
The discussion becomes heated, cosmic accusations fly across the gathering like so many stars in the sky.

In a supernova burst, or rather a laserbeam of light into the darkness, you focus on Kokichi Oma.

Kokichi Oma.

"What are you exactly?"

"I don't know.... I've never been able to be one thing. Some days I'm tossed about by the cosmic currents.

Other days I ride the winds of my thoughts across the Sky.

Maybe one day...one day I'll find myself."

But you didn't trust him.

You would found out who he was.

With Blood."


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camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (2) Dunnstral, zMuffinz,
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (0)
Kokichi Oma- Gemini: To Listen (7) Nachomamma, thepixiecollective, Kuribo, DGB, Staeg, LadyLambdaDelta, Feysal [LYNCH]

MariaR- Aquarius: To Liberate (1) Kokichi Oma
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (0)
DrippingGoofBall- Libra: To Balance (0)
Espeonage-Gemini: To Listen (0)
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (0)
Feysal- Virgo: To Serve (2) MariaR, AnonymousGhost
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (1) Espeonage
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (0)
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (1) camntsuki

Not Voting:

With 13 alive it took 7 to obliterate someone.

Kokichi Oma was lynched. He was
the Split Personality (Gemini/Pisces), a Harmony aligned soul.

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Welcome to Cosmic Mafia!


You are an Harmony-Aligned Soul.

Your Sun Moon Combination [Role] is: Gemini/Pisces = The Split Personality
The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign provides a high degree of what would be called a sixth sense that always helps you get along in the world. This blending is one of the most versatile and adaptable, but one in which frequent change and inconstancy can be a problem, at times.

Night Abilities:
Evolution- Your role will change over time as the events of the stars and day phases affect you. Learn to roll with the punches!

Thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=76680

You win when all threats to Harmony have been eliminated and at least one member of the Harmony remains alive.
Night Deadline: July 18th

BEFORE I GET ANY PMS, YES THE VOTECOUNT IS CORRECT. 100% ACCURACY MOD CONFIRMED. Thank you and submit your night actions on time please.
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:59 pm

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In post 1927, kuribo wrote:This is not the bah post of a player who wants Town to know they're in multiball and thinks they were just lynched.
I'm not even going to argue against this. However, I will say I was quite frustrated after that speedwagon, and I did not even know for certain. I considered claiming after reading DGB's taunt, but did not bother, since I thought you would get my role soon enough anyway.
In post 1939, Staeg wrote:Feysal, does your passive refer to specific alignments/factions as per your example?
No specific factions.
In post 1931, MariaR wrote:It is part of my role why I can talk today.
Okay, got it. I misunderstood when you said you did not activate it, and thought it was not part of your role at all.

Anyway, surviving yesterday has at least given me time to update my reads. Here is who I think are town, and why.

Kuribo - I don't think scum would have bothered or even thought about breadcrumbing the name of the town when the whole point is they should not know and they do. As if I even need to name a reason. His reasoning could be better though.
Insects
can tell the difference between two and three.
Pixie - One of my strongest town reads at this point. Anyone who thinks she could be my partner after yesterday cannot be thinking clearly. I apparently only survived because she moved my vote, so if she was my partner, don't you think I'd have known about it?
Dunnstral - I was conflicted about this read for a long time. I noted him being defensive a number of times, but his play since then has looked more and more town. He may be too argumentative for his own good, but I don't see any scum intent behind that.
Ghost - My town read from yesterday still holds, and post has made it stronger. I would not expect scum to basically brag about their past scum performance.
Nacho & Staeg - I've had my doubts about their mason claim from the start, though I did not think it likely they would be scum. I thought about gambitting neighbors, lovers, or maybe they misunderstood something about their roles. But probably they are what they say they are.

As of now, I have everyone else in the process of elimination pile.
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:59 pm

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Guys feysal never casted a public vote for Kokichi but he's listed at the end. I went back and checked, I called L-1 and nobody hammered, feysal never voted him

Feysal said NOTHING about this. He voted in secret
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:00 pm

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Hey Feysal, great timing. How did your vote get on Kokichi?
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:00 pm

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ISO FEYSAL
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:00 pm

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In post 1988, kuribo wrote:And since he hasn't claimed a role name, how sure are we that even his flip would make it clear?
I mean there's no way for him to know that it would, but see point A where the information sucks and could be wrong and thus really, really isn't very important to share.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:02 pm

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In post 1709, AnonymousGhost wrote:Actually combining that with the fact that you admitted that you can control votes makes me doubt my town read on you. Kuribo's my strongest TR and if he can exert that much control over the lynch as he claims he could do, why would the town need someone who can control someone else's vote if Kuribo's role exists? Feels redundant.
This was directed at Pixie.

@Feysal - Were you informed that Pixie moved your vote?
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:04 pm

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In post 1652, thepixiecollective wrote:we can control a players vote.

there are 2 votes accountable here

where are every1 else's votes

cos this cld be important
i'd imagine it's more likely that pixie moved feysal's vote than Feysal having a vote that he can submit secretly but still shows up publicly
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:05 pm

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I hate the fact that they can do basically do this in secret.
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:07 pm

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In post 1981, kuribo wrote:But he's posted in those 24 hours and his only "redemption" was "Hay Guys I'm gonna die but I'm okay with that and also I'm a reverse miller"
I know you've seen townies crumple like a shitty card table before. My only point is that it'd be really super wonderful if we could give him more than one chance to redeem himself, especially since the horrible awful thing he did yesterday was not post a lot after taking a super long break from mafia.
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:08 pm

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In post 1997, AnonymousGhost wrote:I hate the fact that they can do basically do this in secret.
if i'm scum
and i can move peoples votes in secret and make it look like other people quickhammer
i am never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever claiming that shit.
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