Mini 2020: Destiny III: Cosmic Mafia [終わり]

[AnonymousGhost]

Yoiure going to have to explain further than that cause I'm biased since we pushed for the same thing.

[Nachomamma8]

i know you're biased.
i don't think i'll be able to convince someone who isn't willing to listen to me, but i'll try my best anyways.

[AnonymousGhost]

Okay. That's all I can ask for.

[Nosferatu]

Nosferatu, which part of the multiverse does an AG obvtown read come from?

why not

[Nachomamma8]

DGB is another "pretty much lock town" read in this game; she doesn't have anywhere the same amount of bite whether scum or town and, while I can find that playing with scumpartners she likes can elevate her play, I don't think that it would be elevated to this level.

I understand where LLD's coming from this game (it's an extremely awkward and uncomfortable place to come from), but DGB's just being DGB at this point and there's no reason for continued interactions here - you're just making yourself angrier and this game will continue to grate and be unfun until you manage to let go/disconnect from that particular piece. I have no problems with her reads so far, like the Kuribo/Maria observation in particular.

I initially didn't understand it, but there was a similar and different dynamic with RC and Kuribo and believe that both Maria and Kuribo have the type of pride in their scumgames that can lead to an interaction like that.

I can't parse the bold at all. cld you unpack this for me?

is your muffina vote a srs vote? I hope it is a srs vote. but I wld like to lynch dunnstral first.

LLD's initial read on Kuribo and Maria were that they were either Town/Town or Scum/Scum. I usually don't like "this interaction is T/T or S/S or T/S" reads because they're baseless and oftentimes they're just a reflection of an agenda ("this argument is T/S" allows you to come down on whatever side is losing/means that you can push the other person after the first one gets lynched). This one in particular I understood because of Gumball, where kuribo and RC's dynamic ended up becoming something pretty weird that I don't think would have existed if one was scum and one was town.

[Nachomamma8]

God damn

I very rarely ever solidify a read on DGB day 1, simply because it's dangerous. And when I do solidify that read the first day, it's because I've caught her as scum. Divining DGB's alignment is like tasting a fine wine or conjuring a dead Erdrich abomination: its best to take your time

For once though, I feel really really comfortable calling her town now.

I really like the Kuribo/DGB dynamic this game; a worry of mine about DGB especially is that being scum with kuribo/people she likes has the tendency to elevate her play, but the interactions here feel very genuine and a lot deeper than I've seen in the past.

[zMuffinMan]

hey nacho,

why do you think feysal italicised "you have no idea" in that post you liked?

[Nachomamma8]

i got the point you were making from earlier.
i don't think it's very good at all.

[zMuffinMan]

hey nacho,

can you talk about why you think feysal is town without referring to his role?

[Nachomamma8]

like yes his post is overdramatic for a role that ended up being fairly tame.
i don't find that to be a good indicator for scum because different people think different things are absurd.

[Nachomamma8]

hey nacho,

can you talk about why you think feysal is town without referring to his role?

i don't have a plan to talk about any reads in depth until i'm done reading.
sorry muffin.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho is the town side of needs to be sorted properly. I think he believes what he said. I just think he's wrong.

Nacho is town but needs to be sorted? That doesn't make sense.

yeah that was a weird as shit read

[Nachomamma8]

cupcake has posted more times in this D1 than he normally posts across entire games when he's town - i know that's probably in part because he's excited about it being a fate game with this player list but meh. i guess how much he's appealing to certain players doesn't sit well with me either. honestly don't remember the last time he put this much effort into a game he was town

i specifically don't like how he's manipulating kuribo wrt dunnstral.
kuribo has a well known weakness of pushing people who are jackasses but DON'T go balls to the wall with it and cupcake definitely spent a lot of time fanning that fire without actually seeming to scumread dunnstral.

i also don't like camn not popping up at all, didn't like the post she did make. "let's pick a side because DGB~" seemed more like buddying up to DGB than any sort of decision and I don't really think uninformed camn undermines her partner in that way based on her being big into the whole "one voice, one hydra" thing? but that's a lot of extrapolating and not really relevant - mostly i'm just concerned by camn getting drowned out pretty much entirely - she strongly prefers town over scum and cupcake strongly prefers scum over town and the hydra is all cupcake and no camn.

[Fate]

The Moon has Shifted into Leo, who will you elect to wield the Sunburst? Whoever is elected will have the power to eliminate a single player. This will end the day if on scum.

DAYVIG Vote Count:
camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (0)
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (0)
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0)
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (0)
DrippingGoofBall- Libra: To Balance (0)
Nosferatu-Gemini: To Listen (0)

Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (7) camntsuki, Anonymous Ghost, Kuribo, zMuffinMan, LLD, DGB, thepixiecollective

Feysal- Virgo: To Serve (0)
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (0)
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (0)
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (0)

Not Voting: Most

With 12 alive it takes 7 to elect the Leo King.

[Fate]

Leo is the light that Shines, ruled by the Sun. The center of attention, given power by the collective.

Kuribo stood proud and loud among you.

"I WILL DELIVER YOU ALL TO RIGHTEOUSNESS."

As the cosmic rays are channelled into Kuribo, he turns the focus onto Feysal.

Feysal, he who could dance in the light of chaos, twist images into that of his making.

The deceiver, the trickster, the one who showed his love in messing everything up.

Such deviance was out of harmony with the whole, as Feysal delighted too far into chaos.

Feysal has been killed. He was the Sly Fox, Virgo/Scorpio,

a Chaos Aligned Soul

MariaR has been killed. She was the Stiff Upper Lip, Aquarius/Cancer,

Harmony Aligned Soul

Welcome to the Cosmos!

You are an Harmony-Aligned Soul.
Your Sun Moon Combination [Role] is: Aquarius/Cancer = The Stiff Upper Lip
“Nonetheless, this combination blends the originality and independence of Aquarius with the feelings, sensitivity and tenacity of Cancer.

Fun Fact: This is Staeg’s ACTUAL combination in Life.

Night Abilities:
Unbowed- You walk with a strength others admire, taking blows but never yielding. Never turning down from the path of your Sun despite how your Moon sways your inner world.

You are immune to one Nightkill, and may post in the thread the Day after you suffer a mortal wound as well.

Thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=76680

You win when all threats to Harmony have been eliminated and at least one member of the Harmony remains alive.

It is now N2, you have until 7/25 Midnight to submit actions.

[Fate]

The Fox drew Fate closer to the heart of the missing archetypes...

Chaos... of course. What else would throw off the divine Order of this cosmos? What else would upend a cycle of 12 going round the face of so many clocks, all the way down?

Somehow... he didn't smell malevolence from Feysal. Mischievous yes, but evil? No... yet the ominous air of the worlds lingered.

The souls gathered once more, but there was one missing.

One who hailed from a moon of Uranus, one who would not be daunted.

Cosmic bullets have a solid way of daunting someone. For Good

DrippingGoofBall has been killed

She was the Rabble Rouser,

a Harmony aligned soul.

Welcome to the Cosmos!

You are an Harmony-Aligned Soul.
Your Sun Moon Combination [Role] is: Libra/Aries= The Rabble Rouser.
“The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces a personality not easily tied down, fenced in, and one that doesn't like obligation, duty, or possessiveness.”

Night Abilities:
Disruptor- Each night you may target a player. If successful, that player’s night action becomes disrupted in a way that is detrimental to their faction. This may be either a roleblock or a random redirect depending on the player chosen.

Thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=76680
You win when all threats to Harmony have been eliminated and at least one member of the Harmony remains alive.

[Fate]

The Third Day: Neptune moves into Aries

Neptune has shifted into Aries, nominate a player to be a nighttime warrior for Harmony. They will recieve a bonus ability to use tonight.

Vote Count:

camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (0)
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (0)
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (0)
Nosferatu-Gemini: To Listen (0)
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (0)
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (0)
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (0)
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (0)

Not Voting:

With 10 alive it takes 6 to obliterate someone

Mermaid Warrior Vote Count:

camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (0)
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (0)
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (0)
Nosferatu-Gemini: To Listen (0)
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (0)
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (0)
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (0)
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (0)

Most votes by nighttime will be nominated.

[Nosferatu]

first!

[Dunnstral]

okay, I don't suspect lld as much

[Dunnstral]

I can't tell if that flavor is hinting at multiball or if feysal was messing with us

[zMuffinMan]

imagining kuribo as a mermaid (flowing locks, a shell bra, a fish tail and all) made me smile a bit

[Fate]

Whoever dresses up as a mermaid and posts the pics gets a dayvig!

[AnonymousGhost]

You should target me AG and you keep a secret until day 3

:thinks:

Did I get the secret you promised me, Dunn? I targeted you N1.

[Nosferatu]

Kuribo - I don't think scum would have bothered or even thought about breadcrumbing the name of the town when the whole point is they should not know and they do. As if I even need to name a reason. His reasoning could be better though. Insects can tell the difference between two and three.
Pixie - One of my strongest town reads at this point. Anyone who thinks she could be my partner after yesterday cannot be thinking clearly. I apparently only survived because she moved my vote, so if she was my partner, don't you think I'd have known about it?
Dunnstral - I was conflicted about this read for a long time. I noted him being defensive a number of times, but his play since then has looked more and more town. He may be too argumentative for his own good, but I don't see any scum intent behind that.
Ghost - My town read from yesterday still holds, and post 980 has made it stronger. I would not expect scum to basically brag about their past scum performance.
Nacho & Staeg - I've had my doubts about their mason claim from the start, though I did not think it likely they would be scum. I thought about gambitting neighbors, lovers, or maybe they misunderstood something about their roles. But probably they are what they say they are.

reading through feysel's posts for some inspiration, there's probably a buddy in here, probably ghost just from reading this although i generally still townread him

[AnonymousGhost]

I can't tell if that flavor is hinting at multiball or if feysal was messing with us

The better question would: do we believe Feysal's claim about multiball now that he flipped scum? Muffin and Kuribo pushed the fact that there's no town motive for holding onto that like he did, and there wasn't - since he was scum.

Thoughts?

He could've just sent that information to throw us into a wild goose chase/sow - pun intended! - chaos.

Pedit:

Oh yeah. You exist in this game Nos. I tracked you last night. No result.

AND BEFORE ANYONE OUTS THEMSELF AS A PR!!! I became an Empowered Tracker as of D2 start after receiving my track result PM from Fate.

SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT IF YOU TARGTED ME LAST NIGHT AND ARE A TOWN PR.