NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[brassherald]

Look, if my sister is right about things, we need to help in sleep training the baby by pretty much turning off the television, even if its muted and on a different floor, and all lights (in the state, I'm pretty sure, she was never happy). Also, no talking at all.

I am pretty sure my sister is doing it wrong.

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

Because swimming is probably loud. And you probably need lights in the same state as the baby to do it at night.

[brassherald]

VOTE: GUSTavo

Strong winds might wake the baby (all the good puns were taken)

VOTE: profii
Can we please please policy lynch for this pun

Hey there, this is funzo-land. It might have been a bad pun, but let's just workshop a better one, instead of making him Dead tired.

[brassherald]

Hey there, this is funzo-land. It might have been a bad pun, but let's just workshop a better one, instead of making him Dead tired.

More puns? Et tu, Brute?

Why don't you let off some steam?

[brassherald]

*sounds airhorn and blames the above poster*

Don't do that.

https://ionesfly.files.wordpress.com/20 ... =500&h=222

[brassherald]

*sounds airhorn and blames the above poster*

Don't do that.

https://ionesfly.files.wordpress.com/20 ... =500&h=222

This was supposed to be an image, I hit the wrong button...

[brassherald]

I didn't say hi to anyone this game. (And I'm keeping that way)

Aloha, which means both hello and goodbye.

I'll keep you guessing which it is in this case.

[brassherald]

If the people I last played Risk with are any indication, the game will last like 15 minutes.

[brassherald]

And I was just like "I really don't want to play" and was told that it would be fun. It was not fun.

[brassherald]

Happy scumday Flubz

Ty ty

Was waiting for someone to notice

But... Your scumday is tomorrow.

[brassherald]

Small World is better than Risk.

[brassherald]

Are we still in RVS?
We are? Great.
VOTE: worst

I've got some really good news

What's the good news?

[brassherald]

.....though statistically speaking that means there's like an 80% chance brass is......

Statistics are trash for trash people

[brassherald]

Risk is okay, as long as I am not forced to play it at like 11pm on Christmas day when I just want to go home and go to sleep.

[brassherald]

I go to bed and literally the entire world posts while I'm asleep. LITERALLY!

Serious question to everyone, can anyone read profii? Because I always scum read him and its happening again, and I know I can't read him.

Also, HitAlt, am I one of the people you have played with in the past?

[brassherald]

imo Elbirn is town and just acting dumb

Raskolnikov is scum though

VOTE: Raskolnikov

also if I'm right about Raskolnikov being scum, then inferno is town. I doubt scum buddies would immediately have an interaction like that

Could you expand on these thoughts?

[brassherald]

I think inferno flails by now if they're scum

...so...
why aren't you voting him?

Where did inferno flail?

[brassherald]

I go to bed and literally the entire world posts while I'm asleep. LITERALLY!

Serious question to everyone, can anyone read profii? Because I always scum read him and its happening again, and I know I can't read him.

Also, HitAlt, am I one of the people you have played with in the past?

I’m pretty sure this time your gut is right about him.

VOTE: Profii

Sure, why not? Better than sticking with my RVS vote at this point.

[brassherald]

Perhaps if you get scum read all the time, it is an issue with your play rather than with people being scared if your information instead of analysis play?

[brassherald]

Played with you or seen you play.
You are one of the few whose nick I remember better than the avatar.

That would be because I change my avatar pretty regularly.

[brassherald]

And, I thought hitalt was Thor, that answer says it's probably not...

[brassherald]

If hate to be that guy, but can you please use post tags?

I'm definitely not going to be reading those posts either of you referenced.

[brassherald]

I'm going to advertise how I've correctly scum read duckling very quickly at least one time.

So far, I've been okay with him.

He'll be obvtown by the end of day 1 if he's town, and I think he is

[brassherald]

Ianal sounds gross.

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I also just searched it and I can't even use that one. Damn you, universe!!!

[brassherald]

Mid game is too late to wait, if no one has a strong read by day 2, he's the day 2 lynch, I think.

[brassherald]

Also before I go into a court room and have to put my phone away.

VOTE: dramonic

Feel pretty good about this one even if it is a gut read.

[brassherald]

What is AbN?

[brassherald]

Ready for a day 1 gamesolve? Because I've got this.

[brassherald]

Okay I'm going to just come clean this was to lead into a question of how many scum there are in the game? I have no clue

[brassherald]

For the record, flubb is always on my day 1 scum team solve. I just need to know how many join flubb and dramonic

[brassherald]

I think 4 scum, so dramonic, Flubbernugget, Gustavo, and HeWhoSwims.

If I am right, please confirm in the thread immediately.

[brassherald]

And before I'm asked, exactly 1 of those is simply because I'm paranoid, the others are actually pretty legit reads from me.

The paranoid is HWS, who seems to end game me constantly as scum. So, I refuse to ever really town read him.

[brassherald]

who seems to end game me constantly as scum.

Are you drunk?

The only time I played scum with you was in your first game and then you caught me in lylo! And one time where you replaced out after 2 days idk if you count that

I count it. That's 2 for 2 by my count. TWO FOR TWO.

But, let's be honest, I just needed to put a fourth person in there, yours was semi-random, there's a pool of people who are pretty much null and I chose from that pool.

[brassherald]

You should be, as we all know, I am always serious about everything and nothing I ever say is a joke.

[brassherald]

Wait, you haven't asked me if I was serious, so, pretend I didn't say that last bit, so that if someone asks me if I'm serious, I can use that later. I forget where I'm going mid sentence sometimes.

[brassherald]

AbN is Assumption Before Narrative. Basically it means that Gustavo was calling Profii’s play scummy and then coming up with reasons for it to actually be scummy.

Do it, brass.

Have you played mafia before?

Well this is incredibly evasive. I agree with Chickadee on 186. This is pretty flaily scum.
I’m just gonna shoot you so I can go on to hunt your buddies.

Dayvig: Gustavo

Is this finally a not Bad Idea Mafia game I'm in where a dayvig is a real thing?

I'm so hype to find out!!!!!

[brassherald]

I'm glad dayvigs are explicitly banned from normal games so that we can put the boring and utterly unhelpful gambit to rest.

You make me sad, Ausuka. I was like

But now, I'm like

The Marvel Netflix series are pretty good, by the way. Except Iron Fist, I watched like 5 episodes of that then gave up.

[brassherald]

I said it in the sign ups, and I'll say it again here, I'm out chilling out so many people right now.

I'm chill as a cucumber.

Gustavo is no chill.

Inferno, no chill.

Me, Cooler than being cool. (I'm ice cold) Alright, alright, alright, alright... and so on.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Gustavo

VOTE: Gustavo

I'm on the cool dude wagon, now. Elbirn has sunglasses and everything.

[brassherald]

Gus called me iioa - I dunno what that means

Information instead of analysis.

And I believe I used the term first.

[brassherald]

Gus called me iioa - I dunno what that means

Refer to post 236. Classic example. You make wordy posts to appear like you are doing something but when I reach the end I don’t see you actually doing anything

Use post tags, it's really not that hard.

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Gus called me iioa - I dunno what that means

Refer to post 236. Classic example. You make wordy posts to appear like you are doing something but when I reach the end I don’t see you actually doing anything

Ok out of interest what does it stand for

Am I even here? Is this a sixth sense scenario?

[brassherald]

Gus called me iioa - I dunno what that means

Refer to post 236. Classic example. You make wordy posts to appear like you are doing something but when I reach the end I don’t see you actually doing anything

Use post tags, it's really not that hard.

For me it is. So I’d appreciate if you just accept that going forward. Thank you

How is this hard?

How do you not understand how to do post tags?

You type in the number of the post, you can highlight it and press the post button, it's the very last button on the tabs on top.

I am not accepting that, and I am going to tell you conclusively, that it makes your posts easier to read if you use post tags, rather than just mentioning the number. There is no reason you should be unable to use the post tags.

I apologize for losing my chill here.

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@Brass, is constantly being on Mobile a good enough excuse for you?

Ehhh... I still do it on mobile, but at this point one person's already said it's going to be Anarchy.

I'm just going to go back to chill.

I'm Captain America levels of chill now.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Flubbernugget

Not going to keep voting someone when I might just be upset at them. It's not chill.



Dancing to a new wagon.

[brassherald]

@mod How many Marvel gifs am I allowed to post before it is too many for this game? I might be close to that already.

[brassherald]

Gustavo if you are Town and don’t understand that 194 and 215 are very toxic posts and the reason people have called you that you need to step back and reevaluate.

If you are scum the feigned ignorance makes sense.

194 definitely isn’t. I could see why 214 could be interpreted that way but I didn’t name names.

If you are so concerned about toxic play? Why contribute to it yourself? why not hold yourself and informer accountable also?

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I will always defend myself. Don’t say anything negative about me and I won’t have to respond.

We could end this day with s profli lynch. His buddies will kill me and everyone is happy.

This sounds lots like "Don't scumread me and everything will be fine."

You realize that, right?

[brassherald]

Numbers have been crunched to show that a no lynch on day 1 is statistically inferior to a mislynch for town.

At least it is that way in newbie games, I would assume it holds true in larger games.

(I am a trash person)

[brassherald]

You get more than just a death out of the lynch, though, you get mod confirmed information. You get a smaller pool to hunt in. You get valuable information to use in Night Kill Analysis. You can perform Vote Count Analysis.

There is not going to be a situation where a day 1 no lynch is the best option unless you start Day 1 in MYLO.

[brassherald]

So, unless the duck has drastically improved his scum play since that open game, I want to say Stack the Deck, I'm pretty confident that this is town duck.

I'm also trying not to hyperpost since I'm told that is not chill

[brassherald]

Also, to Rask, could you go more in depth into what you see about Skygazer?

I forgot that they were in the game until I saw that vote, also I just remembered that there is another person in this game that I don't remember any of the posts of. Want to say the name is xyzzy but I'm in court and don't have the time to look it up.

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So, unless the duck has drastically improved his scum play since that open game, I want to say Stack the Deck, I'm pretty confident that this is town duck.

I'm also trying not to hyperpost since I'm told that is not chill

He played scum in sharing is caring too

Would say those 2 games are about the same rn? Idk I don't like myself relying on meta reads.

I may have been spectating sharing is caring on my alt, but I legitimately did not read anything.

[brassherald]

Gustavo, is English your first language?

I'm not at all trying to be insulting, but I feel like the answer to this is important to my read right now.

[brassherald]

yes it is, I don't speak any other languages. why do you ask such a weird question?

Because for some reason, every time anyone says anything about you or to you, you come in with a wild misinterpretation of what they are saying.

The only explanation I could come up with other than you are being intentionally difficult to deal with is that you speak another language as your primary language.

I'm reading a few things you've been saying and wondering how you are missing the plain meaning of the words.

I'm not seeing your play as pro-town at all, and at this point, don't understand why anyone's playstyle would be to just misinterpret everything.

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Ok so now we have Rask content... easily town

Why does content = town?

Nah the content he provided was town, I just couldn’t be bothered to pick anything out... I’m interpreting being chill as an excuse to be lazy haha

By the way, this is a perfect example of what I just said.

I feel like anyone could have read Profii's post and figured out what he meant, but not Gus, who apparently only speaks English.

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I'm sure I'm "mistaken" on this one too, but you misintepreted Inferno saying you had a lack of contribution to mean you had done nothing when that is not what lack of contribution means.

Anyone can build up the most posts in the game without actually doing anything and 73 posts in, I really feel like you just keep picking fights that come down to twisting other people's words and then claiming everyone is twisting your words.

I have no explanation for this, and your explanation is probably going to be "No, you're wrong" but, feel free to tell me I'm wrong.

P-Edit: I'm not just talking about assumptions, I'm talking about reading something and figuring out what the words actually mean rather than being way too literal and seemingly misunderstanding them.

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Hello Andrius. I want to apologize to everyone for my actions before.

I am an adult, and should have been able to show more self control, and not get particularly angry with any player.

In terms of game related content, I am going to completely disregard posts from the slot before the replace out to give Andrius a fair chance since I know my emotional reads can and often will be wrong.

[brassherald]

That is super spicy tyvm.

It's like a curry.

[brassherald]

Re 184, I'm not going to say I have a great explanation, but dramonic's posts just feel like scum posting. It's pure gut, and no real evidence, yeah, but, like everything feels like he's too calculated, I guess would be the right phrase, to be town.

I also don't think 482 is a town post, but, again, I can't quite put my finger on why.

My dramonic read is purely instinct, and I cannot read his posts and tell my stupid instinct with my brain that it's being stupid.

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Why SkyGazer as a first pick? I feel weird about the one slot I can't remember any of the posts from at this point but I'm not sure it is sufficient for me to support lynching that slot

[brassherald]

Okay, yeah, Skygazer, dramonic, flubber, and chick seems like a scumteam, after rereading the iso for Skygazer.

By the way, Chick has, to my memory always scumread me and I don't believe I have ever been in a game with her where I rolled scum. I'm disturbed by the fact that she backed down from a read on me by saying she was attributing posts by someone else to me, as if anyone really posts like me. Low priority in my order, though.

Duck, if you drop a vote on Skygazer, I'll join you.

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The second should be 472 the other was intentionally to my own post because xyzzy spoke about that post in his post immediately before mine.

Sorry about my typo

[brassherald]

VOTE: SkyGazer

As promised.

[brassherald]

Okay, yeah, Skygazer, dramonic, flubber, and chick seems like a scumteam, after rereading the iso for Skygazer.

By the way, Chick has, to my memory always scumread me and I don't believe I have ever been in a game with her where I rolled scum. I'm disturbed by the fact that she backed down from a read on me by saying she was attributing posts by someone else to me, as if anyone really posts like me. Low priority in my order, though.

Duck, if you drop a vote on Skygazer, I'll join you.

I'll explain a bit. I'm a very visual person. Your name is BRASSherald. Davesaz's avi is literally a picture of a Rodin statue, which the majority of, are cast in metal. So in my mind, I was linking the two without going back to look.

I guess that makes sense.

I'm not down to lynch you today anyway, even if my issue did hold up.

If no one else wants to, I'll hop on tonight and give a quick rundown of the issues with Skygazer.

[brassherald]

Not game related, but, what exactly is speakeasy?

[brassherald]

Trying not to dominate discussions again, so I'll probably take a backseat for a few hours at least after this, but my main issue with the iso for Skygazer is that there are 18 posts, one of which is substance light, the rest do nothing.

We are far enough in that a lack of content while still posting every few hours, to me, is scummy. I get the feeling that Sky is posting to be like "Well, I'm not lurking" and saying just enough to remember he is making posts, but not actually saying anything in the posts to deliberately avoid being a scum read. Once you get to 18 posts, I feel like there should be some posts that moves the game forward, unless you are Not_Mafia, but that's neither here nor there.

So, Sky is a good wagon.

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@brass: Which post of mine is the one with substance in your opinion? I can't tell looking at my iso.

464 and the fact that you are asking me which I think has substance instead of trying to point out actual substance or make a post of substance. Well, not winning you any town points, here.

[brassherald]

Why would that be PT slipping?

[brassherald]

9. All Private Topics, including any Mafia factions, have daytalk enabled.

By the way, Daychat has to be public knowledge in normals.

[brassherald]

I was quoting there for reference to the rules, in case someone didn't read it, not to address Pine.

[brassherald]

@Anyone not theWorst

– If you have a Town read on Brass please clue me in on why. Because 519 pretty much says his read on Sky is for low content to post ratio and after looking at brass in ISO there is way too much fluff for me not to thinks that some cogdis at work.

I may have misspoke, because what you have here is not what I meant.

I meant that I expected more actual content from him by this point, not that its a ratio issue. Also, he didn't do that many fluff posts, he's just posting like useless stuff that kind of seems designed to look like more than it actually is.

Like, if people want to do fluff posts, go for it, I love laughing and having fun, but Skygazer doesn't seem to be doing anything really, he's just there and it looks to me like he's trying to look like he's game solving without actually gamesolving.

Back to being quiet some more to follow the rule of chill.

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@Hitalt, what are your feelings on dramonic after the interactions just now with davesaz?

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Side note, not sure how I'm feeling about your posting so far. I feel like you've taken every chance to mention that you're town. And bumping someone because they town read you is baaaad.

Hard agree.

Probably semi VLA this weekend by the way.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Andrius

What do you see here?

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Elbirn's stock definitely goes up in my book this weekend, and he was already pretty good. Taly's down. I still think dramonic is the best lynch, though.

So, I'm going back to dramonic, since it seems no one is working with anyone, might as well set off on my own like everyone seems to be doing.

VOTE: dramonic

[brassherald]

Elbirn's stock definitely goes up in my book this weekend, and he was already pretty good. Taly's down. I still think dramonic is the best lynch, though.

So, I'm going back to dramonic, since it seems no one is working with anyone, might as well set off on my own like everyone seems to be doing.

VOTE: dramonic

out of interest what do you think of dramonic and taly together, dramonic seems to get involved in the dave ending so idk I don't think I'd see that as SvS bus on day 1?

I do agree that they are probably not together on the scum team, but I am not seriously building a scum team guess with associatives right now.

That day 1 gamesolve is a joke that I will brag about forever if I randomly guessed right.

I'll reevaluate my reads once we get some mod confirmed information.

[brassherald]

Elbirn's stock definitely goes up in my book this weekend, and he was already pretty good. Taly's down. I still think dramonic is the best lynch, though.

So, I'm going back to dramonic, since it seems no one is working with anyone, might as well set off on my own like everyone seems to be doing.

VOTE: dramonic

out of interest what do you think of dramonic and taly together, dramonic seems to get involved in the dave ending so idk I don't think I'd see that as SvS bus on day 1?

I do agree that they are probably not together on the scum team, but I am not seriously building a scum team guess with associatives right now.

That day 1 gamesolve is a joke that I will brag about forever if I randomly guessed right.

I'll reevaluate my

scumteam

reads once we get some mod confirmed information.

EBWOP, forgot a word.

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I didn't say town is not doing what I want. Town really is not working together. I don't know why you would think my saying that town is not working together as I'm telling people to do what I want. I'm not some dictator or something looking for everyone to follow me, but everyone seems to be setting their own course (Mine is set for adventure, by the way).

Everyone should set their course for fun now, which means we should stop playing Risk.

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Dramonic seems to be throwing shade without many reads. When dave was here, he just sort of attacked dave, I feel, and it goes back. I don't think there's anything here that can be called gamesolving, and I don't see him doing really anything pro-town.

Again, I'm fine with fluff posts, but when someone is throwing shade and not much else, it does not look good.

He hasn't followed up any of the shade thrown with "This is why I think someone's scum" or "I like that response" so, I don't see any pro-town actions from him.

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@mod- you put that I have 2 votes on there, I don't believe I am a doublevoter.

Fixed. I think I copy/pasted instead of cut/paste. Also corrected MoI's vote.

[brassherald]

Don't tell people about my Creature level boredom as scum. Bullets scare me.

[brassherald]

If I told you that Flubber was at super secret L-2 right now, would you understand what I am saying?

[brassherald]

I'm also planning to swoop in and take the hammer on flubber if at all possible. Because I don't get to hammer often

[brassherald]

If you guys can get HitAlt to a hammer range, I would also hammer there.

@Inferno, who is the scum engineering this flubber wagon?

[brassherald]

If you guys can get HitAlt to a hammer range, I would also hammer there.

@Inferno, who is the scum engineering this flubber wagon?

Is there anyone you would not hammer if they got to L-1? I know that sounds a little funny but you seem awfully focused on hammering players as opposed to focusing on really digging into your scum suspects. No response to dramonic's refutation of your "no followup" point?

There are people I would not hammer if they got to L-1, I have announced literally two people I would at this point, that is a current complete list. Otherwise, I would have added more people to the list. Because that's how a list works. There are 15 people in the game I would not hammer right now if they got to L-1.

I had my say about dramonic, but I have seen at least two people that want to give him a pass as "dramonic being dramonic". I don't want to argue with people saying to just give someone a pass because they are always scummy, apparently, and his rebuttal posted two posts I had read that he never followed up on. I maintain what I said and do not feel the need to engage here when I have said my fill.

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Is the "he" being discussed on this page HitAlt?

[brassherald]

Well, I'm glad someone is, we can use more God in our lives.

[brassherald]

Ausuka, why are you still voting Skygazer at this point?

[brassherald]

Hardly, since there's no associative leading to Taly-scum.
Keep trying tho!

@TW: It's that game with the snakes and ladders right?

Yus you got it

Now, what's the difference between snakes and ladders and chutes and ladders?

Because those are definitely two games.

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Ausuka, why are you still voting Skygazer at this point?

I kinda have been floating through this game for a while and nothing really made me want to remove sky vote?

I'm gonna try to make a big post sometime soon/today because I need to do something like that to get back into the game.

Okay. I'll look forward to that.

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It's bad enough to get lynched.
And just to be sure - I DO NOT CLAIM POWER.
I just dislike anyone speculating PRs out loud as it never helps town.

So, just to be clear, He-Man is not your main?

[brassherald]

I think Scum PR being protected by a goon is kind of dumb. All people do is think like, "Hey, this person is important delay their lynch a minute", then. Maybe duck is just not scum reading a person who we don't have mod information on?

Always consider the possibilities, and consider this. PR is less important than having part of your team town read for scum, if the scum is smart.

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((also, what is a vanity wagon?))

I know this one because I was told that I should know it as not a newbie but it's a wagon where there is only one person on it.

I think it's a dumb term because it makes no sense

[brassherald]

We're getting close to the deadline...

@Elbirn, who we lynching?

[brassherald]

Close to deadline?
We have 3 days.
And why Elbirn specifically?

But, two of those days are weekend days and I do not plan to spend my weekend on mafiascum, personally.

Elbirn because he's my top townread.

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No one really seems to care about my scum reads so I'm just not sharing them until the end of day.

If you want something, I think inferno is scum. But, I doubt an inferno wagon is going to start when I display my reasoning because we all saw how much weight my reads actually have when I spoke about them the last two times, so why distract town with another possible wagon that no one is going to follow for literal days and I only have 3 days.

But, yeah, Inferno scum, dramonic scum, Taly possible scum, the worst isn't looking so hot recently, I'm not sold on Flubber scum, I think the hitalt wagon is not thinking about anything, but again, people have shown a tendency to ignore me, but I'll go for it.

Why does hitalt!scum double down on this position of not doing cases day 1? It would be most beneficial for him to be town read in this case.

When everyone wants to listen to what I'm saying instead of giving me shit about what I'm saying not being enough because there are like 2 posts that don't line up with the general ideas I assert over the course of two weeks of play, then I'll stop having fun as much and start really engaging people, but I don't like wasting my own time.

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@Brass: I care!
So please, tell me more about how I’m scum.

Your voting seems very opportunistic. And, up until that last post, all of your reads seemed wishy-washy to me.

The last post might move you to scumlean rather than scumread, but I need to consider it.

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Talk to me about your other reads brass. Dramonic? Taly? What’s going on inside your head?

Dramonic has done nothing but coasted the entire game. He has pushed hitalt, which as I said, makes no sense to me at this point. I also still don't feel good about his interactions at the end of davesaz's time, and his posts in response to me saying he hadn't followed up on things a few days ago were literally posts that he made to people who are no longer in the game, and he has nothing with any of the other 14 slots before that point where he can display his following up?

Taly I could definitely be mistaken on and am not nearly as confident as any other presented read because I think I always scum read Taly based on his style of posting. But, if dramonic is scum, I think Taly is town. dramonic/davesaz before rang of TvS to me, and Taly has done nothing to assure me that this slot is the town slot. Dramonic has just been worse, to me.

[brassherald]

What dod you think of davesaz’s replace out? I felt like it was kind of forced, but I’ve never played with him before, so I’d like a second opinion.

See, here's where I'm having an issue with this read, actually, I think it seems like it was forced, but I want to go into davesaz's meta to see if he did stuff similar in the past.

I just have not had the time to do a meta dive, so I really have been keeping it in the back of my head to do and will just have to eventually find a time to do it.

I'm making a note here for myself to remind me to do this at the very least during the night phase.

The rest of your stuff I will get back to later, but I just finished dealing with a frustrating item at work, and the rest seemed like a good amount of effort that I need to do and I'd really prefer it if my lunch would just come so I could stop even pretending to work after that headache and take an hour off.

[brassherald]

If you are town, chick, why are you ever a good lynch?

[brassherald]

I'm just going to baa as I VOTE: Xyzzy

[brassherald]

huh profii is probably town that's a relief
will xyzzy at deadline if necessary but eh

VOTE: dramonic

huh profii is probably town that's a relief
will xyzzy at deadline if necessary but eh

What's going on here? Were you trying to quote, hitalt?

[brassherald]

So, guys, are we like going to have a lynch, or are we all just going to stay on a PR claim. I'm a big enough man to admit my voting dramonic most of the day is no good if he's claiming a PR with no CC.

I think right now, the only realistic lynches are Flubb, hitalt or xyzzy. I still think hitalt is town, but I'll move my vote there if it is him or not lynching.

So, people start making choices, because we got an extension, which is lucky since I was going to miss this deadline if it hadn't been moved since I spent the day sick in bed.

My choice of the three is xyzzy, if someone thinks we can turbolynch someone with no votes at all on them, now is the time to talk about it.

[brassherald]

Yea, Chick has been surfing this whole game.

Myloninja's not in this game.

[brassherald]

Is role madness normal?

[brassherald]

Yeah, if this is role madness, I've got to withdraw my statement from several games about not lynching an un-CCed PR claim day 1, it's unrealistic.

[brassherald]

VOTE: dramonic

[brassherald]

Okay, if dram is not happening because I was just listening to the worst's suggestion, the only viable option in my opinion is here.

VOTE: Flubber

[brassherald]

HWS is very good as scum by the way. That's why I'm always wary of him. He seems pretty okay, but I keep thinking that. The one game I caught him as scum was because of a bad vote on his part, not an actual good read.

[brassherald]

BEES!

Also, I guess Flubb is not claiming?

[brassherald]

Yo, duck, welcome back to the town block!

VOTE: Taly

[brassherald]

YAS

NICE SHOT VIG

VOTE: Andrius

If you are Town, you should sheep this. I will post a full refutation of MoI and also fully explain on Andrius when I get to a computer (at work rn).

Why should I sheep you?

[brassherald]

Okay, sure.

VOTE: Andrius

[brassherald]

So
brass, why coming in with Taly?

He was the main one arguing against lynching dramonic after the claim, as I recall. dramonic was scummy af, I feel like it was scum trying to protect their PR.

[brassherald]

TFW you thought he was trying to hardgrab towncred by doing the obviously protown thing by not lynching claimed pr day 1.

I have never claimed to be smart.

[brassherald]

Yo, I'll just get in front of things right now.

I am activated BP. I'm guessing scum tried to kill me because I activated last night.

I also was like super poorly crumbing that I was a PR the entire day, but I'm not THAT bad at crumbing. I was really trying to draw the night kill.

[brassherald]

I just figured before hitalt says I was attacked and not killed so I'm SK, I'd claim.

I am also intentionally not saying whether I have further shots to activate and will continue to refuse to do so.

[brassherald]

I just figured before hitalt says I was attacked and not killed so I'm SK, I'd claim.

I am also intentionally not saying whether I have further shots to activate and will continue to refuse to do so.

Wise on both counts.

Once in a while I do smart things.

[brassherald]

This could be spicy, but I could also be outing our vig.
Not willing to do that kind of a blunder just yet.

I'd also like to know something more about those bananas - who exactly got them? (apparently multiple people?)
And brass - can you give any more specifics on why / how you know your BP activated? (

PLEASE LET HIM ANSWER THIS BY HIMSELF - COULD BE IMPORTANT.

I sent a pm to Pine that said something to the effect of, "Yo, I want to activate the ability."

So, that's how I know I activated it, by activating it... I feel like I sound stupid

[brassherald]

I think Vig should do what Vig thinks is best.

[brassherald]

Xyzzy is also kinda null but maybe nulltown? will have to look through it more but feel like xyzzy and dram wagons were competing at points.

They were.

[brassherald]

Andrius is ??? don't really know tbh.

I can be your Chrono.
Nothing else matters.

Was the main character's name really Chrono?

[brassherald]

Oh, I probably named him Biff.

also, UNVOTE:

Inferno, I think you are wrong about Andrius.

[brassherald]

#TrustBiff

pedit: #BiffxLucca

Ftfy

[brassherald]

Didn't the worst vote Dram towards EoD, though?

[brassherald]

Didn't the worst vote Dram towards EoD, though?

Nope

Oh, poo, if this is right, get back out of my town block, duck!

[brassherald]

Taly, serious question, do you think scum me ever goes so hard on a scum partner like I was on dramonic most of day 1?

[brassherald]

I'm just going to put this out there, by the way, I will be insufferable for the rest of my games if I keep going with early scumreads that a NK proves to be correct.

Actually, more insufferable, I'm already pretty insufferable.

[brassherald]

I'm just going to put this out there, by the way, I will be insufferable for the rest of my games if I keep going with early scumreads that a NK proves to be correct.

Actually, more insufferable, I'm already pretty insufferable.

HWS and tw probably know what I'm talking about here.

[brassherald]

Brass

, talk to me about

TW

and

HWS

Okay, the worst, purely for his later vote onto dram is probably town. I don't feel like he votes onto a scum PR as scum. If dram was a goon, I wouldn't think he was town for that vote, but I just don't see it.

HWS could be scum, nothing about his posting sticks out in my head as particularly great. But, I probably need to go back and reevaluate because of that, which is not happening right now because, well, I don't feel like it.

The reason that they would know why I am going to get worse is that in HWS's Stack the Deck, I pinned Beefster as scum Day 1, ended up making a really reluctant vote onto Thor who was a Town PR, then vig killed Beefster. And I am always going to remind people when stuff like that happens, because I like to brag.

[brassherald]

OK

Brass

is in townbloc

Too early for this.
Depending on if the Vig-claim happens, brass might be the lynch for D3.

Hit, can I just confirm that you understand what an activated BP is?

Because between this and your question of how do I know I activated a BP shot, I'm not exactly positive of this.

[brassherald]

Hit, can I just confirm that you understand what an activated BP is?

Can I then confirm that you are claiming that your PM includes something like "you have to activate your BP for it to take effect" ?

Something like that.

[brassherald]

Not sure I buy it.

May I ask why?

[brassherald]

I also posted like 4 gifs yesterday that were crumbs of BP, specifically. Two were Commando gifs because Arnie is pretty much bulletproof in that movie. Then in two, it was Luke Cage a/k/a Powerman. He's also bulletproof.

The David Tennant one was actually because I thought it was too obvious I was doing BP, so I pulled out a possible Doctor crumb to throw people off.

[brassherald]

no you're not. I did not do nothing last night

I would assume the double negative is intentional?

[brassherald]

no you're not. I did not do nothing last night

I would assume the double negative is intentional?

I would not not assume that

I am so angry about this sentence for purely grammatical issues.

[brassherald]

Will the two of you shut up and just make out already. I am definitely not ready to film this.

[brassherald]

I would love to be SK, I would fucking agree to be leashed as SK so that I could help town and keep doing my thing. I still have not rolled SK, and I am still sad.

I believe I have said this in a game on my alt like 2 days ago, I really want a third party game.

[brassherald]

pedit: SK is awful honestly

I don't believe you.

[brassherald]

outliving like 40 other people is shitttt

I'm not saying I would be expecting to win, I would just be super excited to have a NK all to myself every night.

I loved in Greatest Idea Mafia when I got to be Town Vigilante. It's so rare for me to get to do something cool like that.

I actually just really like being a non mafia role that has a kill.

[brassherald]

What do you want to discuss with venge usual play?

[brassherald]

I'm just openly complaining.

Like, I go into every game hoping to be able to kill people but also not be mafia. It has not often been successful.

[brassherald]

What do you want to discuss with venge usual play?

What happens to vengeclaims?
Consequently does it make any sense for scum to claim?

I think they are generally hanged before mylo or lylo.

I don't think it makes any sense for scum to claim, however, I did once see Momrangal as scum claim to double the day phase on her lynch (I think that might be a Princess) and it was really good to get a town read, so, bold scum could do a vengeful claim.

Is Chick bold as scum? I don't know.

[brassherald]

MOI is probably town, but I think the suspicion on me is unwarranted. I'm playing like I always do as town, if people don't want to bother looking into my meta to see that, then they are the ones wasting a lynch and then probably blaming me as I shrug it off in the dead thread.

I think we lynch Chick at some point. However, in general, I would like it to be when we have a slightly smaller pool just because I am not super confident in her scumhunting, and I mean no offense to her, but if it were like Ellibereth, I'd be vote parked because that is assured scum kill either way, in this situation, probably the pool tomorrow is actually a good size that I'd be willing to risk it.

So, basically, lynch Chick Day 3 unless someone can show me she has a good record of scumhunting and I'm just unaware of it, then I'd lynch her today 100%.

[brassherald]

If your claim is set in stone could you just
full claim? I have issues with following someone on a guilty when they won't tell us their role in plain English. Pretend I'm an idiot who needs everything explained to him slowly.

Because I'm an idiot.

Who needs everything explained to him.

Slowly

[brassherald]

I didn't get a confirmation message for my BP.

[vote[the worst[/vote]

[brassherald]

VOTE: the worst

[brassherald]

That the worst is lying, in my opinion.

[brassherald]

So, no lynch all liars?

[brassherald]

How does this confirmatiion message work? And how does this activated BP work exactly?

I have an amount of shots where I can choose to be bulletproof for the night.

I message Pine with my decision to become bulletproof for the night, if I have any shots left.

I am then immune to Nightkills on a night I activate.

I also did wait until Pine confirmed that I did validly activate my BP to make sure it wasn't just that I messed up my messages or something. I have confirmation of such facty.

I never got a message last night saying "action received". I doubt a mod would send it to one person, but not the others with an action.

[brassherald]

Okay. I'm going to stop reading into that, then. I do just not see a single other person in this game shoot dram outside of myself and the worst and both myself and apparently hitalt know I didn't take that shot.

UNVOTE:

I mean, hitalt should really be thinking whether the other person he saw take a shot would have killed dram. Also, hitalt is not thinking at all he thinks I am an SK who didn't take a shot yesterday.

[brassherald]

Okay, so, just to wrap my head around the gamestate a bit.

We have an activated BP, a vengeful townie, a visitor, two loyal fruit vendors, a vig, and a detective who sees every kill attempt.

Have I missed a claim?

[brassherald]

^ I am, of course, deciding to omit the confirmed mafia prime-night jailkeeper.

[brassherald]

Okay, I think centralizing all the claims is the first step to sorting out the craziness that has been day 2.

Pedit: Also, by the way, there are sample role PMs on the first page, so, maybe next game read those, it would have really calmed down day 2 if any of us had. I definitely did not until this morning. As I don't actually read things all that often.

[brassherald]

I guessing my role does SOMETHING
I just don’t know what yet
Or if that’s even correct
But

I feel like this would not be allowed in normal. However, I cannot find anything on the wiki to specifically say it isn't

[brassherald]

Also, just to tinfoil these fruit vendors completely: What if one is a loyal fruit vendor for town and the other is a disloyal fruit vendor for the scum team?

P-Edit: I know visitor is a role, but I don't think he can secretly like stab dramonic to death when he visits.

[brassherald]

Redirectors are explicitly non normal.

[brassherald]

I'll take that with a grain of salt given Pine is modding this game.

But, this game did go through normal review, and redirector is blacklisted

[brassherald]

I feel like my top scumspect right now is HWS. He's doing nothing to sell me as him being town.

In fact, I want to vote there and will right... NoVOTE: HeWhoSwimsw

[brassherald]

He still thinks he was the night kill because he explicitly doesn't believe my claim.

I'm still pretty sure I was the NK.

[brassherald]

I think the only reason for scum to kill scum is a situation like Red Flag.

[brassherald]

No no no.
Not ACTUALLY KILL THEIR OWN.

I mean that they would pretend to be a vig and "claim" the kill on dramonic and basically pretend their factional kill is their vig kill. Obviously this doesn't work long-term but if they pretend kills fail here or there it might.

The only use this would have is to draw out a CC on vig.

[brassherald]

3 man scum team, taly?

[brassherald]

What do you think of hewhoswims again?

[brassherald]

VOTE: GUSTavo

Strong winds might wake the baby (all the good puns were taken)

VOTE: profii
Can we please please policy lynch for this pun

Hey there, this is funzo-land. It might have been a bad pun, but let's just workshop a better one, instead of making him Dead tired.

Hey there, this is funzo-land. It might have been a bad pun, but let's just workshop a better one, instead of making him Dead tired.

More puns? Et tu, Brute?

Why don't you let off some steam?

*sounds airhorn and blames the above poster*

Don't do that.

https://ionesfly.files.wordpress.com/20 ... =500&h=222

This was supposed to be an image, I hit the wrong button...

I'm glad dayvigs are explicitly banned from normal games so that we can put the boring and utterly unhelpful gambit to rest.

You make me sad, Ausuka. I was like

But now, I'm like

The Marvel Netflix series are pretty good, by the way. Except Iron Fist, I watched like 5 episodes of that then gave up.

It's bad enough to get lynched.
And just to be sure - I DO NOT CLAIM POWER.
I just dislike anyone speculating PRs out loud as it never helps town.

So, just to be clear, He-Man is not your main?

Don't tell people about my Creature level boredom as scum. Bullets scare me.

It's mostly my giffing, I was trying to be obvious enough about it that they would pick up on it, but not so obvious that they'd put together that I'm trying to make them shoot me.

[brassherald]

@Mod my fiancee and I just broke up, I'm going to be a mess for a few days, just replace me please.

[brassherald]

After some discussion with Pine and a talk with my, well, I don't really know the status right now fully, I've decided to just be on extended VLA until I'm really back into the mindset to be fully in the game.

I'll definitely be out the rest of the day.

Thanks for all the kind words, and I will just hop with most of my townblock on this.

VOTE: Elbirn

I'll be around to respond to any direct questions for sure, and this is likely going to remain my only game while I work through my personal things. Please still consider me for whatever, this is not meant to be an AtE, it's just been a really emotional and tiring weekend.

[brassherald]

MOI is oddnight so coordinating this probably isn't an issue but just in case I'll fruit vend in the bottom half of the playerlist.

This.
This bothers me.
MoI has claimed Loyal oddnight FV.
Ausuka has always only claimed Loyal FV.
Doesn’t anyone else find this discrepancy odd?

Yes, but which one is the fake claim of these?

[brassherald]

Tell me why there is a great chance of scum in {Taly/Elbirn} in 3 sentences or less, then give me which one you suspect more, profii.

I want to get a succinct statement.

[brassherald]

Yo, I had a ridiculous day at work. Did profii ever answer my questions to him?

[brassherald]

VOTE: profii

[brassherald]

Profii responded to Chickadee but it doesn't appear that they responded to you. (?)

I wanted to challenge chickadee because she made no effort to think about

“Removing SK means less night kills, means more town elected lynched”

Instead, just creating a reason to get on a wagon to get herself in a safe place today:

“Voting profii because he is SK hunting, I can say that because it’s site meta I don’t need to think any further”



It’s massively massively bad


Anything else I’ll do on a computer later but that just super stood out for me so phone posted

Just answer my question from earlier! I specifically addressed an issue and you are ignoring it. It bothers me.

[brassherald]

1- Pine retracting his modkill on Inferno = Inferno is scum
2- Chicka stabbing Pine = Chicka is scum

And what's that talk about the Vig? Do we have claims I should know of? Was the Mafioso killed overnight? And if so where did the MAfia kill go?

Hit claims the mafia kill hit him, which is wrong, because I'm pretty sure no mafia team hits someone that was almost lynched in the day phase, no matter how strong they claim their PR is.

The Mafia kill was likely at me because I activated a shot of Bulletproof.

[brassherald]

We should lynch profii.

[brassherald]

Do you want us to always say where we are in relation to the lynch? I mean, I voted profii like 3 days ago or something, don't put it on me to call out that he's L-1. This is solely a you and Almost50 issue in my view.

[brassherald]

UNVOTE:

Why?


Also,

@pine I'm good to be off VLA, problems all worked out and we are stronger than ever, thanks for the support from everyone.

[brassherald]

I'm just saying, I am not going back and counting votes. Don't you know this by now? I don't want to be involved in this "counting" business.

[brassherald]

Andrius ans Rask each claimed their fruit before the vendors claimed who they targeted

[brassherald]

I believe one claimed odd-night loyal fruit vendor, the other claimed just loyal fruit vendor or something like that. I don't know what it means.

Of the group, I think the ones who received the fruits are better today than the vendors and vending is not a clear IMO.

I just think a profii lynch is best here, he's being evasive.

[brassherald]

I don't remember any claim by Elbirn.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Inferno

Someone tell me how his play today is actually town motivated.

[brassherald]

Yeah, inferno is really looking bad the past few real life days. I think my scum read on him yesterday was very warranted, and it's back today.

[brassherald]

The unvote on profii then the magna vote itself and then the unvote on magna in conjunction with your claim all add up to bad news here.

[brassherald]

You seem to just be doing things in order to look busy, in my opinion. Doing whatever's easiest and surface only reads. Then the claim you have is suspicious especially when you thought you might be the one who killed dramonic.

My reads have been pretty good in my games recently, too when I'm paying attention on day 1 and I was this game. I had you as scum with dramonic, and I'm trusting my own day 1 read which is compounded by today's play.

[brassherald]

Who are the two fruit vendor claims again? I don't feel like searching the thread to figure it out

[brassherald]

Yeah, sounds right to me. Thanks.

[brassherald]

You are both scummy, and I've seen nothing to hint at the two of you not being scum together. The vote yesterday could have easily been distancing.

[brassherald]

I might have to bust out my :shenanigans: if morale does not improve in this game.

Please do

[brassherald]

I know technically, I should go through and do the whole thing with inferno and dramonic, but no, I don't want to. I'm not even going to make an excuse, I straight up do not want to do it.

Also, I've had scum partners deathtunnel me in games, it happens, especially in larges.

[brassherald]

Fine, I've got my eye on inferno, though.

I think if we get no extension of time, we choose one of xyzzy and profii, duck can shoot the other.

[brassherald]

I am, aren't I?

[brassherald]

What I'm a little concerned about with the xyzzy lynch is that was the counter wagon to dramonic.

[brassherald]

Wait, who did Gamma replace?

[brassherald]

Gamma, have you read any of the game yet?

[brassherald]

Wait, who did Gamma replace?

Why do you need to ask?

Because I was confused about what slot you were in.

I have a hard time keeping up with replacements.

[brassherald]

And I am aware I could probably read the OP, but, let's be honest, I won't.

@Xyzzy: Who are your top scum reads right now?

[brassherald]

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

[brassherald]

And I am aware I could probably read the OP, but, let's be honest, I won't.

@Andrius: This is why I'm not explaining my stances. Things like these don't make sense to most of you, but this hits me as Town!brass talking.

Am I allowed to point out that scum!me would have at least pretended to read the OP?

[brassherald]

Wait, wait, wait. Shouldn't Xyzzy use the word "we" to refer to themselves?

oh btw this game has given me another chance to use this image I made a long time ago