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seriousIn post 26, James Brafin wrote:In post 17, popopopopopopo wrote:mafia caught on the first page i like it
That’s a lot of confidence there, po. And quite frankly, it seems to me that there is no reason for your vote other than RVS and banter. Is that the case or is this a serious vote?In post 19, popopopopopopo wrote:lets lynch this guy im FEELING it
i dont understand this postIn post 30, Golden Robster wrote:
loaded question fallacyIn post 28, James Brafin wrote:Would anyone else like to read the narrative here and tell me that’s not what happened?
pretty sure you just had an unjustified assumption- popopopopopopo
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whole thingIn post 34, Golden Robster wrote:
what part do you not understandIn post 33, popopopopopopo wrote:i dont understand this post- popopopopopopo
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thanks buddyIn post 36, Golden Robster wrote:a loaded question contains an unjustified assumption (duck thinks gustavo omgus'd) (unjustified because no evidence and we can't read minds) (assumption in the question because of the phrasing)
comprende?and tell me that’s not what happened?- popopopopopopo
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this is dumb. either accept it was a mistake and move on, or vote him because him lying about this would make him scum no?In post 59, Gustavo wrote:help me understand, how exactly did you make such a mistake? Golden Robster and unrealseal are two completely different names, There is even a space in between one of the names which would have clued you in the moment you hit the space button.- popopopopopopo
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lmfao that wiki entry is ten years old. in my experience most of the old classic "scumtells" dont work anymoreIn post 102, Gustavo wrote:I mean if we keep reading.
“The key to identifying this tell is intent - it is possible to confuse Chainsaw Defense with a player who simply finds the attacker scummy and has no intent of defense. In general, you can be reasonably sure that this tell is involved if a) the player supposedly using Chainsaw Defense has not previously been especially critical of the player he is now attacking, and b) the player supposedly using Chainsaw Defense seems to find the player he is supposedly defending at least reasonably pro-town.”
1. Garmr hadn’t been critical of James
2. My interpretation of garmr’s post is that he thinks James was town
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In post 138, Krazy wrote:So we're 13, what all does that leave as a possibility?
I still haven't reviewed this site meta in a while, but we're expecting something like:
~6.5-7.5? VT
~2.5? town PR
~3? mafia
~1? third party
I'm not sure it's actually optimal play to lynch today. I do remember this site seemed to have a hard on for no investigative, but even so, on the chance we have a cop, to have a strong wincon for endgame we would want 3+ result investigations. We're also right now looking at a game state where a third party killer, if they exist, would be more likely to hit mafia than a town-sided PR, if my guesstimations are anywhere near correct. I know every town ever always has a hardon for the day 1 lynch but I feel like moreoften all that does is result in early PR revelations and hurt town's endgame. If we actually have an investigative (for once) we would want to slow down the bloodshed and give them time to work. If there is no third party killer, we could even theoretically no lynch tomorrow, although I'm assuming town's bloodlust would make that impossible.
these are some pointless posts add this guy to my scumreadsIn post 141, Krazy wrote:Ohhhh, right, wiki says it's 14 player minimum for third parties. For some reason I thought 13 player was minimum for third parties.
So we scumhunt and do not lose a chance to lynch.
In that case....
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i gave reads earlier bub check my isoIn post 146, Gustavo wrote:
Please respond to my questionsIn post 145, popopopopopopo wrote:these are some pointless posts add this guy to my scumreads- popopopopopopo
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i do what i want, when i wantIn post 150, Gustavo wrote:
Those weren’t good enough and they lack reasoning. I’m afraid I’m going to need to lock down some reasons from you. Can’t have you try and cover your ass with some Bs down the road.In post 148, popopopopopopo wrote:
i gave reads earlier bub check my isoIn post 146, Gustavo wrote:
Please respond to my questionsIn post 145, popopopopopopo wrote:these are some pointless posts add this guy to my scumreads- popopopopopopo
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this is forced af. hes using forced, shitty reasoning to jump on a wagon that at this stage was very close to being a lynch (i believe this was l-2?) late jumps on shitty wagons to hopefully push through a quick lynch is textbook mafia behaviour. i caught this dude on PAGE ONE lets lynch his ass already.In post 233, James Brafin wrote:
Yeah, I disagree. Your read, as far as I can tell, “I don’t think Gustavo is playing the wayIn post 227, Garmr wrote:
I take offence to that i think my points are on gusto are strong and good.In post 226, James Brafin wrote:Don’t think Gustavo vs. Garmr is TvT Garmr is super agressive and seems to be looking for a lynch. Gustavo, on the other hand, is slightly defensive, but making good, strong points on Garmr.
Gonna do a read list in a bit, once I get off mobile.Ithink he should play, so he’s scum. YetIam allowed to play however I like because...?”
Plus, why take offense? Seems like a scummy response. If you want to have a civil debate about it, let’s do that. There’s no reason for town to get offended.
In fact, you make more sense as scum than Gustavo judging from your interactions.
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why are you calling people confirmed scum and confirmed townIn post 287, James Brafin wrote:KK. readlist incoming:
ConfTown: Bujaber, UnrealSeal
Likely Town: Gamma and Gustavo
Null: Espeonage, Music, Krazy, French, Locke. I need to Iso these folks and sort them pretty bad.
Possible scum: Golden Retriever
ConfScum: Popo and Garmr.
Unlike Golden Retriever, who has tunneled me, but also interacted with others and contributed., all Popo has done is said "Oh, this guy is scum, this guy is scum" without actually advancing gamestate, postured, tried to get control of town, and generally just been a cocky jerk. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he's obviously in hyper-aggressive mode and searching for reasons to get lynches on people that he thinks he can get mislynched easily. The chainsaw is horrendous from Popo as well. Popo/Garmr is definitely a possible scumteam for me. GR is unlikely a partner of either though.
Bujaber has been pretty townie so far, despite a low post count. He seems like he's actually interested in the game state and hunting by meta, which is a good move IMO. Unreal has been involved and townie,. I like his hesitation on the Garmr wagon, though I don't agree with the lolhammer assessment.
The rest I need to sort, but that shouldn't take long, considering they have very few posts each. But that also means that I can't be too certain on any of those reads, so there is a good chance taht I won't glean anything. We'll see.- popopopopopopo
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i made my first account on this website in 2011...In post 296, UnrealSeal wrote:@James I think it's more likely popo is newbtown rather than scum.
especially given his recent posts, it reads like someone who did read through the wiki for a bit and then decided to join in a game. He also isn't an alt I don't think.- popopopopopopo
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i was attacking u before u voted garmr tho guyIn post 301, James Brafin wrote:
Whether you want to admit it or not, this is chainsawing. You are attacking me to defend someone else. Or is that not your definition of chainsawing?In post 286, popopopopopopo wrote:
this is forced af. hes using forced, shitty reasoning to jump on a wagon that at this stage was very close to being a lynch (i believe this was l-2?) late jumps on shitty wagons to hopefully push through a quick lynch is textbook mafia behaviour. i caught this dude on PAGE ONE lets lynch his ass already.In post 233, James Brafin wrote:
Yeah, I disagree. Your read, as far as I can tell, “I don’t think Gustavo is playing the wayIn post 227, Garmr wrote:
I take offence to that i think my points are on gusto are strong and good.In post 226, James Brafin wrote:Don’t think Gustavo vs. Garmr is TvT Garmr is super agressive and seems to be looking for a lynch. Gustavo, on the other hand, is slightly defensive, but making good, strong points on Garmr.
Gonna do a read list in a bit, once I get off mobile.Ithink he should play, so he’s scum. YetIam allowed to play however I like because...?”
Plus, why take offense? Seems like a scummy response. If you want to have a civil debate about it, let’s do that. There’s no reason for town to get offended.
In fact, you make more sense as scum than Gustavo judging from your interactions.
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thats between me and the mafiascum mod teamIn post 300, UnrealSeal wrote:@popo why did you /in for a newbie game then
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do you think im mafia? if not, why are u voting me?In post 315, Gustavo wrote:
Fine. Then please ignore him and don’t give him an inch. If he is town he’s going to be a detriment. Support me in at least making him cut the shit and start explaining himself better.In post 313, UnrealSeal wrote:I still think Garmr is a better lynch today.
popo's dumb but I genuinely don't think he's scum and I'm generally averse to policy lynching
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his frustration and replace out request feels genuine and like hes a vanilla townie
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no could u link the game pleaseIn post 451, Gustavo wrote:So did you not see where he’s done it as scum before?- popopopopopopo
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damnIn post 454, Gustavo wrote:
viewtopic.php?p=7901104#p7901104In post 452, popopopopopopo wrote:
no could u link the game pleaseIn post 451, Gustavo wrote:So did you not see where he’s done it as scum before?
Plus he just admitted he’s done it another time. I don’t have that game link.
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gustavo - garmr i think is town vs town
James had pressure on him early and has pretty much disappeared and been able to fly under the radar since that early pressure, so i still heavily scum read him
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i just dont particularly like explaining myself t b hIn post 672, BuJaber wrote:@Garmr
You misunderstand. I'm not saying pop is enjoying being townread.. who wouldn't.. I'm saying he seems to enjoy being mysterious.
Obviously people play differently but I expect a townie to show that they are not afraid of expressing themselves and opening themselves to criticism and sharing their analysis.
When someone is hard to read for everyone and continues to play the same way it gives off the impression that they are enjoying being unsortable. I tend to policy scumread that part.
i feel i have justified the reads i have given thus far- popopopopopopo
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@locke i believe gustavo's claim, as for garmr, I have town read him for the longest time but i dont really remember why...
as for gamma he has been very wishy washy and his iso doesnt show any attempts at scumhunting, also since he unvoted gustavo after he claimed JOAT, has not voted anywhere else, which to me is a scumtell because he isnt actively pushing a scumread, which is what you are supposed to do as town. i would prefer a french lynch tho- popopopopopopo
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do you scum read me, or are you just voting to vote?
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wtf is this postIn post 717, Gustavo wrote:Cmon Hiraki Morisette, Let me hear you say something that isn’t actually ironic.
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yea..In post 749, Locke113 wrote:You don't even remember why you town read Garmr?- popopopopopopo
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