In post 88, Kmd4390 wrote:hito wrote:
kmd, how would you feel if someone actually hammered that Oath wagon right now?
Somewhere between anxious to see the flip and annoyed not to get a claim first.
This is actually....a good answer
In post 89, MagnaofIllusion wrote:This is … I don’t know … strange. Hito I know that you know most any behavior is going to be generally more likely to come from Town than scum because … there are naturally about 3-4 times as much Town as scum. And effort is as much personality driven as it is alignment driven. So yeah ... I think this is a really weak reason to be solidly Townreading Komala.
I mean, putting aside that effort is "as much personality driven as it is alignment driven" (I know there are some people who get amped to be scum, but I still think that on the whole trying hard in an anemic game is a towntell above the replacement odds), it's really the KIND of effort I'm talking about. Like Komala said they needed to be prodded, but come on, imagine you are scum and you commited to ISO'ing every player. In this case, the framework you're using is already a high-effort one. Who then ALSO, in the SAME POST, gives little updates on their past reads when those aren't the scum suspects they're pushing? It's just sort of solidifying townreads in a way they had absolutely no expectation to do, because absolutely no one bats a blind eye if the ISO catchup post is only an ISO catchup post. So to me that really suggests town who actually care about those reads and want to get their story straight - it's a lot of effort for scum to do something that only hurts them by lowering their flexibility.
And for the record, I agree that "unreasonably strong townread" is a legit tell, I just don't agree it applies here since I did see the same thing from invisibility. (Not that I put all that much stock in it, but it's kind of good to exaggerate the strength of your town reads in the early game, y'know?)
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nonny, you haven't said a single thing about your vote since placing it. whats up? I was the main architect of cheesy wagon and now I've abandoned my baby; if you can make anyone see the light it's me. I see in preview edit that nonny addressed this while I was finishing up the post, but only to do the same thing RC is doing. Gross!
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I'm like super frustrated about this Music Box thing because I would love to just policy push and be done with it because obviously she's playing in a scum beneficial anti-town way. But I dunno something tells me music box would do it regardless of alignment and it's not a scum thing to push. But I mean, if she IS scum, it's not like we would randomly catch her one day while she's durdling around refusing to take any meaningful stance, so like it's kind of an if not now when situation also. Meh I dunno just because there are a looooot of skeevy kids this game I feel like I can wait a little bit longer on this but I'm not happy about it and wanted to vent.
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Oath, if you believed you should be the lynch target, why not self-hammer?
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