SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Errantparabola]

Prodding Fire Assassin and Punreader. This will be their one prod.

[Punreader]

Maybe I didn't die because of role, not sure. I'm a ranking immune townie, which I thought meant I couldn't die from rankings but apparently it might extend to all roles based on rankings.

This is tomorrow's lynch.

[Punreader]

the worst do you have another option other than vax today?

Shosh > Vax > Fire off the top of my head

I want massclaim tho.

This is transparently an openly pun agenda. I know that the worst is not literally the worst town player, but this sort of blatant cheeky push is right up his pun meta alley.

[Punreader]

I could vote fire today actually

Then do so.
Just because I am ranked higher than Fire does not guarantee that he dies. If I am roleblocker, redirected, or he has immunity (remember, pun via killing Maria may have her doc shot) be it commute, hide, rolestop, or protection, he lives.

It is safer to just Lynch him, as we know that will kill him.

[Punreader]

I could vote fire today actually

Then do so.
Just because I am ranked higher than Fire does not guarantee that he dies. If I am roleblocker, redirected, or he has immunity (remember, pun via killing Maria may have her doc shot) be it commute, hide, rolestop, or protection, he lives.

It is safer to just Lynch him, as we know that will kill him.

My point being, my Vig can fail; our Lynch cannot. I would rather not take the risk. I'd shoot him if he wasn't lynched, but I would prefer the option with an absolute 0% failure rate.

This close to lylo, safe play takes priority over theoretically optimal play.

I am quite aware a Lynch plus a Vig is superior to just a Lynch. It is also much riskier if we Lynch someone who is town.
As commander shepherd is town, the risk of that Lynch is too high. We should Lynch the player with the highest chance of being pun: that is Fire Assassin.

[Shoshin]

Pun, I still don't get why you're so sure Shepard is town. What exactly has he done this game that makes you think he's town? Point to specific posts, and explain why they're town.

[Punreader]

Pun, I still don't get why you're so sure Shepard is town. What exactly has he done this game that makes you think he's town? Point to specific posts, and explain why they're town.

How many times must I requote my posts on the matter?

[Shoshin]

the worst do you have another option other than vax today?

Shosh > Vax > Fire off the top of my head

I want massclaim tho.

This is transparently an openly pun agenda. I know that the worst is not literally the worst town player, but this sort of blatant cheeky push is right up his pun meta alley.

What's openly scummy about the worst's agenda if he wants to lynch two people you believe are scum (me & Fire)?

[Shoshin]

Pun, I still don't get why you're so sure Shepard is town. What exactly has he done this game that makes you think he's town? Point to specific posts, and explain why they're town.

How many times must I requote my posts on the matter?

You haven't pointed to any specific posts that make it more likely that Shepard is town.

If you have, please direct me to the posts where you did so.

[DeasVail]

Hmm I think I still prefer Shepard as the lynch at this stage.

[Espeonage]

I feel so confident in the next few days worth of lynches once we flip fire.

[Vaxkiller]

What were our cops claims for today?

[Fire Assassin]

Did I miss a night?

[Fire Assassin]

T-Bone

Welcome, MariaR.

You're a Bidoof, one of the most fearsome and strong Pokemon in the entire Sinnoh region.
You are

T-Bone

, the

Jack of all Trades

.

Alignment: Town

-- You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Active: Moody

(

Your stats change unpredictably...

) -- Once per Night Phase, you can choose between three different one shot powers.

(+ATK -SPD)

Target someone to be informed of whether or not they are mafia, and do nothing the next Night Phase.

(+DEF -SP. DEF)

Make yourself bulletproof for this Night Phase and make yourself Hated (one less vote to lynch you) for the next Day Phase.

(+HP -SP. ATK)

Protect someone from the first kill this Night Phase and make yourself Voteless for the next Day Phase.

Passive: EXP Points

(

To the victor go the spoils.

) -- If you die, the person that killed you or hammered you will gain all your abilities that remain unused.

9. MariaR

(TOWN)

Average:

5.11

Number of 10s:

2

Number of 0s:

3

lol Maria was actually not lying.

[Fire Assassin]

I am shocked.

I didn't even get my night action in.
I am so out of this game.

[Fire Assassin]

Just to put it on the record:
Since I know Fire Assassin is ranked lower than me, if we don't lynch him, I'm shooting him.
But we should just be lynching him.

In the event we do lynch him, I am not nightkilling either of guacamole or Vaxkiller tonight. (As I have strong reason to believe Vaxkiller is town, I will not shoot him. While guacamole has a chance at being pun, and has been a punread of mine the whole game, I've since come to doubt that read and feel it was wrong.)

Why not shoot me and we lynch someone that is actually scum?

[Fire Assassin]

I feel so confident in the next few days worth of lynches once we flip fire.

Your deathtunnel since Day 1 has been noted several times buddy

[Fire Assassin]

VOTE: Commander Shepherd
Punreader might also be scum.

[Espeonage]

I am shocked.

I didn't even get my night action in.
I am so out of this game.

Yeah lets not lynch this. Totally brilliant idea everyone.

[Shoshin]

Esp, what's your read on Shepard and Pun?

[Shoshin]

Hmm I think I still prefer Shepard as the lynch at this stage.

Why Shepard over Pun or Fire?

[Commander Shepard]

Fire is a bad lynch.

Since Maria is a one shot cop.
Fire being a one shot cop would make complete sense for the counter claim scenario that would ensue.

I am thinking we help Vax bus.

VOTE: Shoshin

[Commander Shepard]

I am shocked.

I didn't even get my night action in.
I am so out of this game.

Notice how he said night action.

Fire is actually the counter to Maria and ergo town.

The main thing is Vax lacks a counter
Punreader is clearly an SK with their limitless BP claim
And Dunn and Esp are made to counter each other and be neg util to take out Fire this making Maria look bad.
In order to balance the relative strength of the power’s mass claim they are balanced by being neg util.

Shoshin being a ranking immune townie reads like a dodge here. “Like oh shit, why didn’t I die?” Versus an actual claim.

[Errantparabola]

Votecount 4.3

Commander Shepard

(5): Dunnstral, Shoshin, Krazy/DeasVail, Fire Assassin

Shoshin

(2): Vaxkiller, Commander Shepard

Fire Assassin

(1): Punreader

Not Voting

(3): Espeonage, the worst, guacamole

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-08-09 10:05:00)

[Commander Shepard]

No, let's get full claims. We need to figure this out, we don't need people keeping information to themselves at this point.

Yet ironically never full claimed today til just now.

Excuse me, what’s that smell? Oh it’s just Shoshin’s Bullshit Factory running full tilt