Transformers Mafia - Dinobots STRONGEST!

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Oh holy fuk they are dead too

lmao

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I'm the town cop.

if you investigated me you wouldn't be dueling me

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VOTE: rb

sigh

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anyway im a commuter, skywarp

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100% this is toog being scum, me fucking calling him out on being scum and him knowing he won't survive this game with me in it

cop is fakeclaim

and if he's town im fucking flabbergasted

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the missed kill is most likely that his team targeted me, and couldn't kill me

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i am infuckingvincible to night kills, scum's ONLY way to remove the game's entirely most active player is to duel me

i said even in pregame i was going to lurk, feel free to check signup thread - but i couldn't in good conscience lurk when this town is going to shit and im actually for once in my fucking life as town, not NK-able

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i already did, im skywarp

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i can teleport, pretty badass yo

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prof is like my top scumread :/

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@Prof Toog's duel doesn't make sense from a town standpoint

He only gets his cop power when he gets Energon? Why wouldn't he duel Vecna/Dram and then cop rb? Why go after rb straight away?

This sounds more like a gambit to off a strong town player

yes

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like fucking lol it makes no sense at all

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toog vs vecna
toog vs dram

even i would have preferred toog to win those

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anyway whatever, another day with a duel literally hours into the phase

honestly just fucking insane

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it's a P ability

"Game Specific Rules:
The following ability types exist in this game:
A.) This is an active ability.
P.) This a passive ability.
E.) This is an Energon ability (see below). You only have access to this if you've gathered Energon from a source. This may be an A, P or E ability.
S.) This is a Scrap ability (see below). You only have access to this if you've gathered Scrap from a source. This may be an A, P or E ability.
F.) This is a factional ability.
W.) This is your win condition. "

commuting is passive

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i actually fucked up, I should've asked rb to say whether his role said Dececpticon or Maximal before I told him which was which

still gonna go with this is TvT

it's neither of those, i'm a seeker scout

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People calling rb a town leader need to reevaluate what exactly he's leading as well. Post count does not equal leadership, it just shows he has no life and can hit the post key.

lol this is fucking scum

i even said before the game i was going to lurk, check the signups thread

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it's a P ability

"Game Specific Rules:
The following ability types exist in this game:
A.) This is an active ability.
P.) This a passive ability.
E.) This is an Energon ability (see below). You only have access to this if you've gathered Energon from a source. This may be an A, P or E ability.
S.) This is a Scrap ability (see below). You only have access to this if you've gathered Scrap from a source. This may be an A, P or E ability.
F.) This is a factional ability.
W.) This is your win condition. "

commuting is passive

That makes literally no sense since I assume you have to specify intent to commute,which requires action.

Additionally, my ability is an E.A. ability, meaning I have to have Energon to use my Ability. Just stating yours is passive doesn't entirely negate the concept that you'd need a resource.

zzzz do i really have to spell this out because i'd prefer not to

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energon makes my passive ability better, i actually really don't wanna give full details

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lmfao

you fucking instaduel hours into a day and then you say

"the system really discourages scum hunting."

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er if i win the duel i get energon don't i?

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oh right it doesn't matter i can say it because if i win i can commute every night

i don't commute every night, i teleport away on certain nights - energon means i can teleport as much as i want

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'this game is shit, so i made it shitter, and now i'm going to coomplain aboout it being shit'

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how can you complain about it being bad, when you didn't even come into the one day where there were no duels, and people were actually talking - WAITING for the lurkers to come and post, and you went and turned it into another instaduel

like fkn honestly

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also day 3 was literally -HOURS- and happened while i was asleep, so i only posted in like the last 10 minutes of it

i don't think people are getting that people, even the lurkers, not even necessarily 'lurkers' - it's just that this game started not even a week ago and we're on day4

by the way this site normally operates, people are just getting coffee and sitting down at the PC to sift through RVS and make cursory day1 thoughts

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yeah well i would have chosen scrap in normal circumstances but since ill be high prio kill target if i don't take energon, kinda forced to take energon

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but just on the off-chance i take scrap, who should i cop

let's go by consensus, i may be unkillable tonight

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toog how can you not have thought, as a town cop - oh hey let's try get into a duel with someone who im very likely to win against, and then i can use my cop power to cop someone without drawing lots of attention to myself

you are not that stupid dude

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can we just all make a unanimous agreement right now, that no one duels on day 5, until we have actually discussed WHO we want in a duel

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lol

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yeah idk im kind of done yelling about it

this game will come down to lylo soon

im tempted to just fucking instaduel dram/vecna/gamma and lurkers and just start culling them instead of letting someone make another potato duel like this again

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Ive read like 3 pages of the game and I still see US and prof are obv scum.
How bad are yall seriously.

tell that to the people opening days with duels

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reeeeeeee

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im out

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K we can shoot vecna too. That catchup is hollow as fuck

but why

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actually ima let you two fight it out because it's about time you both posted

bye again

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oh god damn

how is vecna's catchup more hollow than vaxkillers dram?

we're locked in a duel so im fine with all of the lurkers just hashing things out as much as possible but that in particular strikes me

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im going out, lurkers keep talking thanks

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Vax didnt really make a catchup post tho

i guess he never did a specific 'catchup post' but isn't that worse?

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i think we pretty much agree on conclusion fakegamma but what are your reasons for wanting him shot. naked conclusions entering at this stage don't cut it

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who are you likely shooting before day ends gamma?

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alright im just gonna go to bed since timezones dont matchup with stuff

er idk how many hours are left but its over 24 so w/e, ill be back tomorrow

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more lurkerposts pls and thx

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in this gamestate i really dont think that logic holds up but i gotta go to the physio

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i just bus my teammates for towncred or AtE because i hate playing scum

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my only scum wins are from bussing my teammates

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ok gammagooey is 100% town by transformers fluff

zero chance of being SK

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its not your name, its something else i saw you post

unless like you did some mega next-level meta, you're for sure town

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it's literally just for you and i can't see any way someone else could inadvertently drop fluff into their post the way you did

also your reaction is pretty town, and that's probably more telling than the fluff itself

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er yeah toog said it

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HAHAHAHAHA wtf

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im at the point where we either shoot lurkers

or this null area needs to die

i dont want spiffeh dead

i dont believe just the lurkers is enough scum, i also dont agree with spiffeh that dram is more likely town because he doesnt play. seriously at this stage, town would try. i want the following dead:

prof
zito
dram
unrealseal

vecna and vax are playing now

unreal has been scumread by the entire game for ages, i still dont know how he's not dead

And zito honestly the fact youre so hard to read does make me feel bad about you, because it feels like you're avoiding giving content that's readable - that's really the problem. it's not that you're posting a lot and your intentions are difficult to ascertain, it's that you're avoiding so hard anything that COULD look like scum

asking clarifying questions, providing commentary on other people's hard reads - but where are your reads? they aren't there. I need to think about it tomorrow, but I want content from you Zito. I want content from Prof and i want you to justify why you should live over a slot like Vax or Vecna that despite being afk at the start are managing to piece together real thoughts

Vecna entering the game and calling out multiple slots with controversial reads - spiffeh scum, unrealseal town, those are BIG fucking calls to make when ppl are asking for your death in this gamestate

spiffeh is town but his argument doesn't work for me here, and fuck, people need to stop talking about how they can't play because they can't vote and start seriously looking for scum.

the duel tomorrow needs to be between two contentious slots, and if people start to refuse, we vig them

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Porkens - reads, now.

i think you're town, i don't think youll get to make devastator, give your reads, play to win by teamplay, not mechanics.

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seriously mechanics are out the window, like half or more of the town is dead without claims, everyone just talk and it'll become much easier to figure out who is talking scum shit

either that or we shoot lurkers

im confident we have enough good players to find scum if people are actually posting, no more excuses about the game's duel mechanics or whatever, just fucking talk

toog is flipping scum, im sure of it as well now that gamma is def town

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it bothers me that everyone townreads me

im being pocketed, but who is pocketing me idk

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wowee

what did prof fridays do to be that town

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oh did they claim that

didnt actually see that but yeah ok that's passable, at least for now

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holy shit those flips so good

vecna is town after his entrance and those deaths, and dram is dinobot with spiffeh 100%

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the way spiffeh is saying dram/gamma/vecna is scum, then after they all start posting and he decides the lowest effort catchup is scum in dramonic? that's for sure one of his buddies

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i just got outta bed so have to shower and do some stuff but back soon

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wait so who are you prof

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hmm ok

yeah alright that sounds believable and porkens likely was gonna fakeclaim scrapper

i think prof is town here because if he was scum no way he links himself with porkens who is fakeclaiming like that

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Yeah i really can't take vax at face value at this point

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okay can we decide if we want this:

consensus townread duels a consensus scumread to get that town player energon/scrap

OR: two consensus scummy players duel and we Neither them

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never fucking mind then

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VOTE: Neither

im absolutely convinced that dramonic is scum with spiffeh

vax might be able to convince me hes town but i think hes likely scum here

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here we are talking about how to duel, and you pull a porkens

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all im gonna say is, this is exactly what porkens did - initiate a duel, use power of ability to convince people to vote for them (to win)

dont AtE, you have 48 hours to convince us you're town. give reads, play the game

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UNVOTE: Neither

shadow vote for neither

so play the game then, you can't AtE and then self-meta yourself as bad at AtE as scum and expect me to believe you

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and right the fuck now, no delays

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the fact you didn't claim it in the initial post is telling enough for me

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tick tock i'm the fakeclaim clock

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oh hi yes let's talk about dota but not actually claim when i come back

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what faction is blitzwing part of, TICK

TOCK

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lmao

this is fake

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like surely

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look at how these roles work right

he actually asks... "decepticons?"

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i am fucking calling this right here

dram and vax are scum with spiffeh

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okay so vax completely failed to provide his actual claim, like for example: 'megatron, decepticon leader' or whatever the fuck it is
or 'insecticon recon' and shit

he's like oh yer im blitzwing of the err...decepticons?

he just knows the town wincon is decepticon, this is exactly why i wanted him to claim fast and instant, to catch him fucking it up like this

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porkens v2

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i am fucking calling this right here

dram and vax are scum with spiffeh

dumb

vax as orange and dram as red sure why not

but vax-scum dueling his scumbuddy instead of literally anyone else to get a vig kill (and what he thinks is potentially infinite vig kills to just win the game?)

duummmmbbbbbbb

think about it

if you are scum with dram, how do you get out of this situation with anything other than a gambit?

town are PoE'ing people down. dram is dinobot with spiffeh. if they're both scum on diff teams, vax is redscum

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like if vax wins this duel and dram flips yellow scum - would anyone here actually be like 'vax is scum with dram?'

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fuck if i was dinobot i'd have done it

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hmm ok

maybe the scumteams are 3 each 6scum22town (maybe SK but honestly i dunno who, all kills are accounted for and the only way is if gamma is the SK but i just cannot wrap my head around megatron being 3rd party in this flavour)

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er wait the LLD kill wasn't you was it gamma?

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you killed fakegamma that day

scrap that all kills not accounted for

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im very sure prof is town so im gonna take a pause here and think

unless prof is scum with porkens. my initial reasoning was 'too obvious to be together' but er, i dunno if that's wise at this juncture

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im taking a break bc my head is exploding rn

i just feel like that duel is just way, way opportunistic, like with all the heat on dram that is the perfect point to scum gambit and ensure scum victory by duelling dram

the opportunistic aspect of it is what i hate the most. even though this day was likely dram duelling someone, i just hate the way it initiated

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you killed fakegamma that day

scrap that all kills not accounted for

I thought those were different days? They kind of blur together tbh

instant night is fucking confusing

hangon ill check

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gammagooey killed stungun on day3

LLD died on day3 during the day as well - that's unaccounted for

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er wait no, LLD died at the start of day4 - it wasn't during the night

then gamma shot fakegamma during day4

anyway still unaccounted for

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ok im taking a break i cant even rn

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hmm

gamma winning duel gives him an extra shot? like he gets energon and it gives a second shot? that would make sense thematically

but he would have surely claimed that shot

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that's OP as fuk

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er, kinda?

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i'm positive dram is scum but i'm suddenly less sure about vax, it's really bugging me. i'm very paranoid about voting anything but 'neither' here but if i do, i'm voting for vax to live

creature just has been seen as town from day1 right through by nearly all the game, a lot that flipped town and i don't really see any particular reason to scumread him either. i've seen him play as both alignments multiple times each, and while he's not as transparent to me as he apparently is to others, i'm fairly confident he's town here based on consensus

unrealseal is a real problem slot for me. his tone feels town. he feels earnest in his posts BUT i agree that his play is kinda weak and lacking overall. he just seems really...innocent. i have no previous experience with him to figure out of his tone feeling town is really town or if he's just like that.

papa zito i have ever-increasing issues with his play in the same way i started to have issues with spiffeh's play. lots of clarifying questions, kind of roundabout defending other people? like he kept checking in on people making bold claims, and i often agreed with his sentiment that people were being rather enthusiastic about reads that they didn't necessarily have a reason to be but the thing is, that's not really what i'm interested in talking about in the game when i play as town. i'm more interested in the reasons for their reads and how that makes me read _THAT_ player, like "how do i read this bluster from LLD, is it fake and scummy, or is it towny?" whereas zito just seemed to talk to tell her he thinks she's wrong and then well, that was that - where's the figuring out part? the longer this game goes, and also, with spiffeh's insistence that lurkers were the scummy ones - the more i feel like there's scum in this mid-range null area of players, and zito would be my first bet there

Prof fridays is er, i townread both porkens and prof. with porkens scum i almost feel like that was _TOO_ fucking convenient for them to genuinely be scum together. like scum!porkens says 'yo i wanna make a devastator where's the constructicons' and scum!prof is like 'yeah sup homie?' like if either one of them died that's painting a HUGE target on the other one and i just don't see scum pulling that gambit at that time, when there was like 10+ dead town and only 1 scum from each team iirc?

vecna entered the game, made 4 strong reads. gamma scum, spiffeh scum, porkens scum, unrealseal town. yet to see unrealseal flip but tbh if you play catchup and you hit 2 scum right off the bat, and 2 scum that were actually pretty townread? to me this looks like a player who genuinely read the game, came to their own conclusions and then gave them, without a single fuck given what the general consensus of the game was. that's town to me

gamma is town

fuck is that all the players in this game lmao

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ima go with the scumteams being 3-4 players each, in which case there's 2-4 scum left

so worst case scenario:

papa Z
prof fridays
dram
vax

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er, maybe swap out unrealseal instead of prof now that i think about it?

fuck i dunno, vax could be town too. holy fuck i need someone to towntell already

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can we play a game?

everyone just assume you've only got 2 choices, town or scum. give naked reads on every slot, gun to your head. e.g.

Creature - town
Gammagooey - town
Papa Zito - scum
Prof Fridays - scum
UnrealSeal - town
Vaxkiller - town
Vecna - town
dramonic - scum
rb - town

that's actually how i feel about each slot rn, it's the circumstances surrounding some of these slots that make it hard for me to get a clear read

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this game started with too many people and too many v. good town PRs for there to only be 3 scum on each team

also I'm looking for more like
steve's a dino because spiff ignored him all game
and george is an autobot b/c of how he and porkens played together
actually matching the people to the scumteam you think they're on

strongest associative is dram scum with spiffeh, the way spiffeh's reads inexplicably changed for absurd reasons made that clear to me

porkens posted fuck all, except with prof - in fact porkens ignored a fuckload of slots in this game despite them trying to talk to him. actually that's a good point, those slots are probably town slots that he ignored.

problem is, so many players didn't even play the game until the later phases and the fact they didn't actually even interact with the slots that have died much doesn't mean anything because they barely interacted with anyone

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prokens basically jsut calls people bad for their entire iso, and everyone they interacted with flipped town

rofl

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im inclined to think that porkens' partners will be in their nullreads of the last list they gave

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Prof Fridays
rb

Creature
Papa Zito

Vecna
Spiffeh

Gammagooey

Vaxkiller
UnrealSeal
dramonic

Toogeloo

or do they actually dare playing the too scum to be scum card with prof

it'd be a really fucking strong fakeclaim to make together if they had 2 constructicon fakeclaims

either that or they're scum with from like, papa zito down to unrealseal area.

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yeh literally everyone porkens interacted with is dead, except unrealseal

it's like porkens is the girl from the ring and everyone who talks to them dies

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im shit at this game

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when anti flips town I'm power killing pork then the people on his wagon

Why is Porkens Town beyond the realm of possibility

papa zito's iso is more useful than any of the dead scum tbh

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everyone read papa zito's iso please and ty

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zito is really aligned with spiffeh's reads and opinions all game, without actually talking to spiffeh in the game thread actually

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princess celestia has a great iso, really telling information in there

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i found out im actually a pony, not a skeleton

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your actual play makes me think you're scum, sans porkens thing

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i actually feel like your catchup is way less than what i'd have expected when you said you were catching up - there wasn't actually a catchup?

you've been really, really safe and filling the game with observations without taking much of a stance on anything except for well, that you townread porkens

it stands out that the one read you've actually made, flipped scum

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that was @Prof Friday

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it also bothers me extremely much that you don't even doubt your townread on vax for like, one second

lmao fuck vax is redscum with Prof and dram is yellowscum with zito

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game solved

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that'd be 4 redscum, 4v4v20?

er, i have no idea if that's balanced but town seems pretty fucken strong

it's also possible prof is just scum with porkens and vax is town and it's 3 scum

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why is unrealseal scum?

i noticed when i looked through isos of dead scum, he got pushed hard by members of both scumteams, as well as people who i think are rly strongly linked to those dead scum - seems like a hard sell to me

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pushed hard probs an overstatement, but defs pushed by spiffeh, echoed by zito (iirc) and porkens + stungun also had some words with them

feels like town that both scum jumped on the bandwagon for, because he was already under pressure

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your actual play makes me think you're scum, sans porkens thing

Ah, I see.

i actually feel like your catchup is way less than what i'd have expected when you said you were catching up - there wasn't actually a catchup?

you've been really, really safe and filling the game with observations without taking much of a stance on anything except for well, that you townread porkens

it stands out that the one read you've actually made, flipped scum

So it's interesting that I didn't hard-town-read obvtown with the knowledge I'd have as scum? Also, it's interesting to note that I was above you and Gamma on Porkens' town reads, when literally no one else had me above null-town - maybe because he

knew

I was town? That, and he needed me for his ability, whatever it was. I'm also taking the stance that Vaxkiller is town and dram is not, thus my vote. I find Papa Zito scummy, and I find it highly suspicious that Creature is still alive after most everyone seemed to place him in their town reads. Vecna can have a town slot for me. UnrealSeal is kinda null for me. If 4 scum left, I'd bet dram/PZ/Creature/US.

porkens is pretty much obliged to hard townread you when you both claim constructicon though?

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.........

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i have no problem with that shot, although i think he's more likely to be autobot than dinobot but we're basically splitting hairs at that point. scum is scum

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holy shit part of me wishes you'd shot me at this point

VOTE: neither

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UNVOTE: neither

zzz

i don't wanna fuck this up.

who here is townreading vax, independent of claim stuff, just by play

fuck me this game

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unless i'm actually just right and it's vax/dram US/zito

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no one's gonna post tho anyway

it's just lurkercity and i don't think the scum have any obligation to do anything other than sit back and hope they aren't the ones who get killed/shot

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this puts us down to 4-2-2 i think. We're even with scum. killing dram will put us at 4-2-1. worst case scenario we enter D6 at 2-2-1

why does this read like you actually know dram is scum

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VOTE: Neither

im going to bed and i dunno when deadline is exactly

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excuse me spyrex i am optimus prime where's my plot armour

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gg though, this game was megatron i mean megafun. decepticons as town faction was cool

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im also real disappointed that the game didnt end in autobots and dinobots teaming up, because now spyrex wont run the sequel where the town is autobots and dinobots and decepticon scum come back for revenge

thanks a lot zito, i hope you're proud of yourself

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oh i believe, i just want to make zito feel bad!

jokes aside, ggwp