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Hello all!

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

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I only voted Flavor Leaf an an opener, why exactly are you voting them @Irrelephant11?

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It's someone YOU currently think is scum tho, we're day 1, page 2. Anything about them so far that makes you believe they are scum, besides not voting for The Worst with you initially.

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mm but I'm right
tw lied so just try to tell me how he's town

why do I need more than a scumclaim to vote someone
the fact you haven't unvoted means you agree anyway

It doesn't mean I agree, I don't see anything AI from them yet. (Like I said, it was an opener) I'm going to have to see more content from them before I unvote.

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So far, Irrelephant is coming on strong which feels sketchy. Gamma I want to give a town lean (see their posts in Ircher post #45). The worst is AI and so is pretty much everyone else. Will update accordingly.

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@Irrelephant, I said sketchy, not the same as scummy. And I said that because you were coming on strong which didn't align with the reasoning for your argument(s). I'm just noting what I see so far.

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I'm going to, give me two minutes please ^_^

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Re: 58

I'll just comment on everything overall. It wasn't what you did but how, you said that you were reaction testing for AI content I believe. Nothing wrong with that ofc, I questioned why you were voting for Flavor Leaf because I wanted to hear an actual argument as to why other than gut feelings or whatever you wish to label it on d1 page 2. I'm aware that my vote still resides on them, still waiting to see more from them so I can gauge their play at all.

My spot on Gamma wasn't about what Ircher said, I just used their post as a reference for Gamma's post instead of linking every single one. 20, Similar thought I had at the time. Gamma pulling of a reference for his claim for 32 in post 44 was extra an not needed tbh. I agreed with their statement in 46 "Irrelephant is making a big deal out of nothing" but in that same regard Gamma could have just stated that sentence, gave a read and moved it along but considering now you do say that you were "making something out of nothing for AI content." in 58. I agree with some of their posts, that's why I want to give them a town lean, I see where they were coming from.

Do you agree that Gamma had a point considering or is this like what you asked me earlier, Is it what Gamma did or how he did it?

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Also, do you have any thoughts for Ircher? I'd place them being null, (not scum) so far because I don't see that intent in their posts so far. (Asking because earlier you said you think they feel the most towny). Is it their lack of scum intent?

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I might be V/LA due to severe weather/tornado in my area. Just giving a heads up

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I think his point there was fair - why did you appeal for votes from someone you'd just expressed a scumread on? (as I'm asking this I'm noticing something but I'll wait for your answer to share)

Why not? Just because I scumread a person doesn't mean I have to stop all interactions with them. There's still 2 scum for starters, plus who knows, maybe I'm wrong on a read.

Chiming in, because if you think said person is potentially scummy and you want votes from them on someone else you think is scummy that means both other parties would have to be scum and you haven't since said anything about testing to see if they would actually vote them aka "proof" if they're working together or not. Basically It's called collusion in this particular scenario which is why I think it was found questionable/weird/whatever word you choose.

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I'm taking note of that pie crust recipe tho.

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Yeah avoiding producing AI content while town devours itself is a timeless strat : ]

That's fair, I guess. Just kinda feels like you're not playing the game though.

@Prof, how come didn't state this in 139? or in response to 143

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I posed the question because it's a specific reason for someone to be sorted or not be sorted.

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*sigh* I was basically saying they could have been a bit more specific in the first place, especially with the read post.

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I'm willing to unvote Flavor Leaf atm, they're giving me some townish vibes. UNVOTE:

Also, what are you thoughts on Ircher? I'm asking about Ircher specifically at this moment because I don't see anything scummy from them but nothing that's giving me strong town pings either. (@FlavorLeaf)

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Profii's 133 was questionable abut It's not something that just screams 'yeah, you're scummy" (Had to put this in there for clarity purposes)

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Fuck, I mean't *Ircher

Sorry y'all.

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I agree with what you said about Ircher. I’m thinking he could be scum, but I feel like he’s playing well enough that there’s absolutely no way we can make a case on him if he is. Does that make sense?

I get you, though I can't ascertain if that's their direct intention or not atm. Also, is anyone reading towny or scummy to you? (I'm saying not null.)

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Like I said, I was explaining where my read came from. The VT role-spec was inextricably tied to my town read of you.

Yeah but it makes you look like you're scum searching for PR roles...

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I see the motivation for both sides of it so it comes down to "would scum slip up that bad?" Feels like something newbscum would do.

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Won't be able to post much today/tonight due to outside factors: (Only mentioned those that are questionable in their slot, GuyinF hasn't posted hardly anything and Irrelephant feels the most town off top, and Mutant just replaced in)

The worst - Null town only because I don't see anything scummy in their postings. They've engaged with the game a little here and there tho. The town aspect is more of a gut feeling that anything.

ProFri= Null Scum unless their role spec post was on purpose to bullshit us somehow into not scum reading them for it. In retrospect Found it interesting that they called out the worst feeling like they're not playing the game when it's easy to get that same perspective from their postings as well.

FlavorLeaf = Very Slight town lean based on their postings or lack there of of actual content in them.

Ircher - Slightly null town, their content on page 12 "feels better" than it did before

Yes, I'm aware this is short and brief but it's all I can post now, I might be V/LA if things take a turn weather wise around here again.

Gamma - Null for now until I sift through this Ircher/Gamma stuff.

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Well, at least this is something Gamma & Ircher can actually agree on, (Re: Mutant potentially being town)

@Irrelephant, how you you disagree about Mutant?

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Besides the omgus you mentioned.

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247, Hmm. Overall it's decent but it does miss a few interesting things, and they say that they've caught up with preceding events and read it just to read it rather than engage. The line:

I don't really have anything to comment on since I was reading it as just some reading rather than something to engage with.

However, I will be engaging with things said from now on so that y'all can get some AI stuff from my slot.

Right now I think Gamma is town and Ircher feels *different* which is giving me a scum twitch.

^^^

[that's a no shit statement at this point, no offence]

Says that they are trying to appear town to us rather than actually read through what's been going on.

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In general, I find something off about {Ircher, Prof Fridays, GeminiTwin12 & Flavor Leaf}. Idk why but I just feel like both scums could be in such pool as if you pick any 2 players from this pool then they make sense as a scum team.

And I never said that I scum read any of these individuals. I was just saying that you could pair any 2 of the individuals from this list and you could believe they're a scum team.

Mutant, if you didn't scum read any of the people in the post, what was the point of making such a statement? If you don't scum read anyone, they cannot be in a scum pool.

To answer the other part of Irrelephant's question, I wouldn't give them a solid town read, I haven't seen anything that would warrant one.

Also, on your reaction test Irrelephant, did you gain anything from it?

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Gemini, are you scum again?

No!

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Says that they are trying to appear town to us

rather than

actually read through what's been going on.

Rather than? I

have

read through what's been going on; I just find no need to comment on any of it. I can both try to appear town and have read what's happened so far - they're not mutually exclusive actions.

It just came across that way &Why not? Is it the content lacking actual weight?

Mutant, if you didn't scum read any of the people in the post, what was the point of making such a statement? If you don't scum read anyone, they cannot be in a scum pool.

To express my thoughts...

Not everything one thinks has to lead to something, but it's good to document thought processes so that you can understand how my thoughts develop as well as giving me something to refer back to latter if anything comes of these thoughts.

So it's more hypothetical / observing in nature? This ^ response feels better than the above.

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VOTE: GuyinFreezer Going to need to see some actual reads/thoughts/comments something more from your slot.

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I'm comfortable with voting within Flavor, GIF, or Profri.

Mutant / Irrelephant gives me the strongest town feels.

Gamma / Ircher the least strongest town feels so essentially null, don't feel confident lynching there.

The worst gives me the strongest null town feels.

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@The worst, is your Ircher vote PoE based, I'm still not getting strong pings from them either way.

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I get you on ircher, I'm expecting a case on why someone is scum/mafia or something that just..helps generally but nothing of the sort yet, that's coupled with the point that the game is moving a bit..slowly with a few (three) players soo..the pendulum swings back and forth on that so back to null.

What are you general thoughts on Gamma? (especially since placed in ranking with Irrelephant) What about their slot is making you go 'yeah, they're town or feel town) I'm not getting that direct feel.

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If I had to give definite slot picks, Gamma would be the most towny out of ProFri an FL.

(Gamma)I saw their POV in the beginning on Irrelephant, regarding the first reaction test, I believe it was. Correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't think their approach on that was scummy with that. I agree with their thoughts on Mutant's slot.

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@The Worst, productive because so far GIF hasn't provided any AI content to help us sort their slot.

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Was the first part directed to me @Theworst? If so I'm not understanding the question/wording.

Nope, they aren't. If they're still busy/V/LA they could have said that when they did pop in though. I know shit happens in our day to day but we also have a game to play and that involves trying to sort people, he's created this grey area of ????.

To move GIF aside here, My lynch pool is Profri, ircher, Flavor. It's not a strong scum pool but If not GIF I could see voting somewhere in there. What's your lynch pool currently looking like?

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I feel like most of this you just posted is reactionary Flavor Leaf.

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And I say that because, it lacks the "this is why I think this about (insert name's slot)"

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We would have to wait/see who his neighborize result is and go from there. His claim feels oddly specific to be fake, unless he's desperate to stay alive.

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What's the practice here? Do we let the replacement slot a chance to play or continue with the vote?

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@Profri, how about some thoughts on what's going on? What do you think of RC so far? What about flavor leaf? Do you at least see that Ircher's claim contains scum motivation regardless of whether you believe that that was their intention? I agree with you on your thoughts behind why we voted GIF, most of here can.

I'd put RC as null town atm, no one else's standings haven't really changed much for me to give new alignment readings..

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This too feels reactionary, Ircher, what's your reasoning for you thinking I'm scum? And scum over ProFri? Really?

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I disagree with RC placing Irrelephant with Flavor below the null line. Flavor Leaf yeah though.

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Ircher should be lynched, regardless if he's town or not as policy for lying.

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-Intent to Hammer-

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So is lying, especially if you claim to be town.

@RC, I'm hammering regardless of your offer, just so we're all clear.

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VOTE: Ircher

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^ That's the only way it makes sense at this point.

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I'd place Mututant as feeling most towny out of the pair (Gamma/Mutant)

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part of this feels too easy

What's making you feel that way?

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Also, what do you think of Flavor's recent postings @The Worst?

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@tw how to you feel about mutant?
@gemini what's towny about mutant (at least in comparison to gamma)?

Gonna go re-read D1 now

In comparison to Mutant -> Gamma, I don't have a good handle on getting pings their slot, they're not giving me strong vibes either way because their ISO reads more like commentary. Mutant is more expressive with their thoughts, I can see /where/ they were coming from. Like earlier with them thinking Irrelephant11 scumslipped, I don't agree but I can understand /how/they would come to that conclusion. If that makes sense.

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Aren't watcher enabler (enablers) only town roles?

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I'm going to re evaluate Gamma + other slots later on tonight.

Mutant

- 288 – I don’t see it as a scumslip. 307 – Mutants response reads like something an annoyed townie would say considering the nature of the post is about the validity of a reads list. 331 – makes a good point and it feels genuine as town. . I also like 347 & 357 – I get their perspective there. I also don’t find post 747 scummy because I don’t see scum trying to make that type of post if they were involved, usually they tend to avoid making them, distance themselves from it. The rest is just them sorting the game so yeah, out of him/FL here I think they are the least likely to be scum.

FLAVOR LEAF

- 772 - I can agree with the first four lines there, though I'm not picking up scum pings from Mutant. The later posts feels desperate because - and even you agree..you’re not making strong cases here so it feels like you’re searching for something to throw against the wall hoping it’ll stick. So that is giving me scum pings.

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@RC can you explain your vote on Irrelephant? Because it felt reactionary.

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I'm unsure of where to place Gamma & The Worst exactly atm, It's been instances of trying to sort but nothing is really standing out to me in their ISO. Flavor Leaf still hasn't done anything to change my view of their slot so VOTE: Flavor Leaf.

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No, I didn't just create that read. My opinion on you hasn't changed since the last time I mentioned you, which was a few pages ago, so who wasn't reading? I've been unsure of Gamma for most of this game and my thoughts on The Worst hasn't changed much either.

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@RC can you explain your vote on Irrelephant? Because it felt reactionary.

Also another subtle defense of Irrelephant followed by a potential compromise wagon start.

Yeah. I’m liking where this is going.

This is a reach and I'm really comfortable with where my vote is now. You're really throwing it all to the wall. I said the same thing to & about you earlier with your vote on my slot. Same thing, player a casts doubt on player b, player b then in turns votes player a without reasoning. <--- that needs to be called into question for sorting purposes to see if they're looking for any excuse to start a wagon (to see if you're dealing with triggered scum).

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Regardless, you completely threw out all the reasons I was defending you for, so :shrug:

You want points for correctly town reading me? Fine but that still doesn't make you town for it.

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You're a bit off base with your "perspective slip" because technically, that's not was it was based on your own words of "defending", to which is often associated with "thinking one to be town or have town qualities". I'm not getting into a debate on this in particular with you.

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That’s my point exactly with the questionable to hammer as it didn’t happen. The scum partner of Irrelephant wasn’t going to hammer. I’m leaning towards it being Gemeni.

You're implicating me as being scum here in this situation because I'm not going to hammer him? I don't get it. I'm not going to vote someone that I don't think is scum or has a good enough chance to be. Do you have any reasons that aren't PoE based?

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gemini what are your reads

In brief:
Mutant, town
Irrelevant, Town
RC, lean town
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Gamma, null / ???
The Worst, null / ???
Flavor Leaf, scum

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How does me + flavor leaf work out as as plausible partners?

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Every time I say that FL is scum, it rubs you the wrong way. Makes me think that I'm most likely correct on your slot. And your supposed thought(s) that I'm trying to set up a future misslynch is bs. My scumread on you is because I can't *get with* some of your 'reasons" /thoughts, it's mostly encased in PoE - which feels likes it's easy to throw in and say for lack of real reasons. And I asked you if you had thoughts that don't surround PoE so that I can get a sense on whether you're genuinely trying to sort.

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How confident are you that irrelephant being scum? I see your scum read on them seems to be based on prior experience but I'm just not getting that feel from them. Where's your Town read on Flavor Leaf directly coming from? I agree that they're being solvey, I just don't think it's coming from a genuine place.

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Once again, can you explain and not in terms of PoE how Me + Irrelephant are scum partners? @Flavor Leaf | And what makes Gamma solid town (assuming here) for you?

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You could be scum with TW, Gemeni, still figurin stuff out

Still doesn't answer my question directly but whatever.

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Yeah, I’m town reading Irrelephant for the pause he gives me. No point as scum for him to do that.

Oh look, one thing we can actually agree on, Irrelephant being town. Crazy it took them unvoting you upon request for you to come to this conclusion but whatever. Also, it's funny that you said:

I disagree if I push Irrelephant I’ll be lynched.

When for a good while there me+Irrelephant were designated scum partners in your eyes. So I'm saying that hasn't really stopped you from going down that road. And like I said before, it seems like you're spitballing all these wacky teams (Gamma/Mutant, IR/The Worst, & Me+

almost

everyone here) and seeing what sticks. That’s the type of vibe I get from you with most of your reads and like earlier, lack of real explanation.

You could be scum with TW, Gemeni, still figurin stuff out

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Stungun and I have been discussing reads and they believe that:

town:irrelephant, mutant
townlean: gamma, rc
null: flavor leaf
scum: tw

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I'm currently at L-1 and the fact that no one mentioned that is scummy, also TW hopping on feels opportunistic.

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VOTE: The Worst I'm following Stun's feeling on this one.

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Flavor comes with some bullshitty shit in post 1331 and here you go and vote me.

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So yeah, I find that sketchy as hell now

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To be fair, I’ve been trying to get people to see you as scum for a while now, and he only now went. You all are pushing him as scum, of course he’s gonna go with me.

I wasn't pushing him before his reactionary vote

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Can we refrain from hammering in general for a good little while, this entire thread needs a reread and I won't be back home until later on to provide thoughts.

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Back to thinking Irrelephant is the partner. 1435 is reachy.

Can you explain how so? Because actually this feels reachy tbh

If you think mutant is scum you think he faked not knowing Prof was watcher
possible intentional "townslip" but it felt genuine at the time

I agree, what's the scum intent in that? It doesn't really *do anything* for them. I'm still feeling Mutant as town, I like their responses on this latest page.

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Around for about an hour or so. Questions, comments, concerns?

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I had two scum reads on you

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The Worst but that means you both would have to be scum partners and I'm thinking that it would have been easier for scum [in this situation: you both] to just stay on my wagon so now I'm leaning towards it being between one of you.

As Judge Judy would say, if it doesn't make sense then it's not true or not likely to be the case.

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Though in this above it means you're more likely to be town unless you're just doing things to "save face" at this point.

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@Gamma, what are Koki's reads for this game, if they have any?

All Mass Claiming is going to do here is help scum, especially for the reason Gamma just stated.

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Yeah, because most likely a PR gets killed and I'd rather that not happen considering it's still two mafs out there. I sense some fishing here. I'm working within a pool of Flavor, Gamma, & mutant. I feel like if RC was scum, we'd be seeing more drama and just confused bullshit from their slot. If it turns out that Irrelephant is scum, hats off to you then. I want to take Mutant out of that pool but it's obvious that my town reads need reevaluation so *sigh*

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And you were for us mass claiming..with two mafia members still in play, how does that help us exactly? @FL

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Yeah, because most likely a PR gets killed and I'd rather that not happen considering it's still two mafs out there. I sense some fishing here. I'm working within a pool of Flavor, Gamma, & mutant. I feel like if RC was scum, we'd be seeing more drama and just confused bullshit from their slot. If it turns out that Irrelephant is scum, hats off to you then. I want to take Mutant out of that pool but it's obvious that my town reads need reevaluation so *sigh*

This just screams trying to set Gamma and myself up as the scum team because I literally don’t make sense as a scum team with anyone else even though Gamma is like lockdown.

No, it means I have no solid idea on who's scum, it means that most people here have the propensity to be scum.

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Pass

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there’s zero reason for RC to be alive today if I was scum. RC even said it himself yesterday. ScumMe doesn’t let him live through last night.

Even if it would have incriminated ScumMe, pros outweigh the cons there.

RC, I’m town. Work with me if you’re also town.

Is this Simon says or mafia? It's the same thing.

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I still don't see why y'all are scum reading me, I've yet to see any real reasons and I disagree from my pov. Scum is most likely the one pulling strings and giving bs reasons for their votes to coast along. I'm willing to vote between flavor or mutant today.

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I'm not getting pings from Gamma, gut feeling that they're least likely to be scum. I dont see them actively "doing anything". If that makes sense. I wanted you out of the pool Mutant because you have more consistency compared to Flavor Leaf yes but I'm still getting scum pings because you seem to believe that I'm actually scum and I'm not, and It's easier for you to stay on me to get me mislynched in the case of scum!Mutant. That's my main thing. Also, How can I be scum with anyone here but you have "reasons" to only scumread me?

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I'll read up on things in a minute - @Irrelephant Stun says "I'm bombarded with college work, so it’d be kinda hard right now, maybe i can spare a few thoughts this weekend, but i would not expect it. I could try to give thoughts on someone specific if wants."

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Had intentions of responding asap, I have taxing things to deal with, that being said here are some thoughts regarding this.

I have a question

If Mutant wasn't scum, who would the scumteam be?

Irrelephant + Gamma? = That feels to..perfect. Too good to be true, if that makes sense because I've town read Rel mostly and Gamma isn't giving me pings. Also because earlier Gamma was scum reading them and if that was for distancing purposes..it wasn't really needed at the time.

Irrelephant + Flavor Leaf?= Flavor's been scum reading Rel often this game, if they're partners they he just threw him under the bus and backed over it several times throughout.

Gamma + Flavor Leaf?= maybe from a PoE standpoint but I don't see anything direct to actually support it this. Thoughts on this would be helpful.

Flavor Leaf + RC?= it's not out of the realm of possibility given them, It just doesn't seem as likely to me given how extra their play would feel. I'm saying that it's not..cohesive, doesn't make sense because RC could have just jumped on any slot FL was on and vice versa.

Gamma + RC?= Not much interaction to gauge how likely this is. Gut feeling is telling me no but if someone seems something I don't then I'm all ears of course.

RC+ Irrelephant?= Feels the same as Flavor + RC.

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Also, RC and I have actually had a lot of synergy, including both being on Ircher, RC saying Worst was scum, but not being on the wagon, while i was town reading the worst, then i hammered, then we both were cool going after Mutant, and we were both on the wagon of Irrelephant with TW when Irrele was L-1.

Mixed in with that, we have opposite pushes, so it leaves everyone open to mislynch if we were the scum team.

Checking this off as other reasons why you two probably aren't scum together.

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I'll reread Gamma's ISO in the morning @Irrelephant

@Flavor Are you saying that you find an aspect of his play to be scummy/sketchy and how them overall or no? bc I'm confused by this ^

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@Irrelephant Do you have any new perspectives here?

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No offence to NSG or anyone else but my posting is dependent upon how much time I have to actually do so, if busy or not - not because of my alignment. And NSG should know that there's no way I'm going to pick being scum over town.

@Mutant, please do share your thoughts on how you think Me/Gamma have interesting interactions, I need to see your thought process here.

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Distancing is usually the reason if you're scum @Flavor Leaf. (I don't mean "you" and in you personally, I mean in general)

That being said - @Irrelephant on the case of Gamma/FL together - I mean..it's a possibility yeah, for me in terms of PoE but I don't see direct things to support it so I don't know.

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Distancing is usually the reason if you're scum @Flavor Leaf. (I don't mean "you" and in you personally, I mean in general)

That being said - @Irrelephant on the case of Gamma/FL together - I mean..it's a possibility yeah, for me in terms of PoE but I don't see direct things to support it so I don't know.

Sure, but this isn’t distancing. We’ve already been here, and this is a poor argument because objectively if Gamma/Myself is the scum team, there’s zero reason for me to stop pushing Gemeni or Mutant.

This is a terrible post by you.

You're being a bit over dramatic here, it was merely a statement in response to what you said, I'm not trying to make an argument here. Since my post is terrible, you disagree with my thinking that there's not much actual "concrete" basis for the potential of Scum!You + Gamma then?

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UNVOTE:
Shoshin and I agree that it's definitely Gamma/mutant

unless

FL is maybe scum
So... figure that out gemini/RC, and if FL is town then it feels solved fmpov

Based on Flavor Leaf's post 1877 - it feels like if FL is scum with either of them then I'm crowning him the king of calculated bussing, can you ask Shoshin their thoughts on the potential for this? @Irrelephant

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Man, I can actually see TownMutant.

This is definitely just an experiment to fuck with my sanity.

I agree with you on Mutant, if it turns out that they're actually scum, they played a really good game.

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So we're \
The way Gamma redirected my attention to his lynch "You should be voting me if you think it might be me/FL, right?" almost feels like he wants to go down and bring FL with him

I agree with this ^ and it's making me believe that FL might not be scum here simply because you really shouldn't add your partner in as bait to be lynched but this is just logically speaking.

[GeminiTwin12]

I effed up the quote thingy but Essentially it was a response to your recent post @Irrelephant.

I said: "I agree with this ^ and it's making me believe that FL might not be scum here simply because you really shouldn't add your partner in as bait to be lynched but this is just logically speaking."

[GeminiTwin12]

VOTE: Gamma

I think Mutant is the partner and not FL because FL just directly scum aligned themselves with Gamma with their recent postings instead of just biting the bullet (so to speak) and voting them (in the case of Scum!FL)

[GeminiTwin12]

I'm actually town doctor - RC/RC/RC are my protects, I retargeted RC because I figured scum would have expected me to change my doc targets. Irrelephant is scum for his counterclaim. VOTE: Irrelephant

[GeminiTwin12]

UNVOTE:

I'll hear what you have to say.

[GeminiTwin12]

why did irrelephant try to push the lynch on mutant > gamma yesterday if they're buddies?

For appearances. If you remember, Irrelephant only tried to push the lynch on Mutant > Gamma after you had already said we were lynching Gamma

[GeminiTwin12]

At this rate, the mafia is going to take this game. It's obvious that scum is Irrelephant, it makes sense now as to how they've been pulling the strings all game. Hats off to you, sir. | And I didn't claim doc as a last resort, I'm not naive, me making a fake claim here would be pointless.

To address post 2105 - I wasn't trying to make it easy/obvious, so I don't know why you'd even ask me that question. My gut was telling me that RC is most likely town, I've played with him before. This doesn't feel like their scum game, it's usually more drama, more bs coming from their slot. My head was telling me to exhaust all possibilities on the off chance that was wrong - that being said I kept protecting RC because I felt like he had the

best

chance at catching scum.

[GeminiTwin12]

Did you not read what I just said?

[GeminiTwin12]

Or did you just glance over it?

[GeminiTwin12]

If you think we're scum what's the point of your question
Just accuse one or both of us of misrepping you

Also, which of mutant/flavor do you think is town?

I did, earlier at you @Irrelephant. Gut is telling me that FL is town here.

[GeminiTwin12]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf