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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:06 pm

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VOTE: Gosrir Elmer Odels

caw! caw!
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Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:07 pm

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great flavour ruru. :3
sorry for ninjaing the vc.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:54 pm

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not voting ircher. I've missed him. I keep playing with this 123456789 dude who has a similar avi and is kinda cool but it's just not the same. :(
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Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:55 pm

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Still tryna take in everything that's happening in that Not_Mafia post woaahhh
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Post Post #18 (isolation #4) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 14, Quick wrote:@Duck,

What would you say if I said I had a TR on both you and Ircher at this point?

VOTE: Not Mafia

PL
I'd say you're being too Quick

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Post Post #25 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:55 pm

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VOTE: ceejay

cop on me tonight
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Post Post #29 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:57 pm

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In post 28, Quick wrote:Don't expect me to do much until NM is lynched, K thanks.
talk me thru why you wanna PL him here
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Post Post #32 (isolation #7) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:10 pm

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oh welp
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Post Post #41 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:39 am

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yikes D: I hope you're okay Brandi
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Post Post #43 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:31 am

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What do you think of Quick's PL stance on NM?
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Post Post #46 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:41 pm

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ya same tbh but PLing NM in particular interests me.....guess I'll wait for Quick to respond
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Post Post #48 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:50 pm

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^ p much
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Post Post #65 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:10 pm

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that is an entirely non sketchy and well intended wagon, nicely done fam bam

@Quick what if I told you NM can be sorted (generally) fairly easily late game and has generally good reads?
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Post Post #70 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:58 pm

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o boy cjv we don't get to play together often enough

and you're rude enough to roll scum on me? :( you know how to break a duckling's heart.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #14) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:34 pm

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is what normal?
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Post Post #74 (isolation #15) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:53 pm

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It's like progressive rock or abstract art. :)
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Post Post #77 (isolation #16) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:18 pm

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ofrhz hi hi hi
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Post Post #79 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:36 am

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it's pronounced ofrhz
loafers for the uninitiated I believe?
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Post Post #83 (isolation #18) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:03 am

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In post 80, ofrhz wrote:Do you think this was a real slip
I think it's too soon to talk about slips. >:
it'll be too soon for a long time :lol:

also, interesting vote
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Post Post #85 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:43 am

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ofrhz and I just finished a game a few weeks back where two townies unironically townslipped =_= but yeah it's better not to read into them too much
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Post Post #94 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:07 pm

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Your reaction to bring wagoned is consistent with your name, Saudade
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Post Post #98 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:13 pm

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Quick would you say you're inconsistent?
(please answer "no" to prove your point)

Saudade how many scum do you think piled your wagon
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Post Post #121 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:16 pm

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i have two minor scumleans this is exciting!!!
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Post Post #122 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:17 pm

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In post 119, ofrhz wrote:
In post 118, Ircher wrote:Everything from Not_Mafia so far screams gut!town to me.

As for the worst, he's fairly easy to read
, and I'm pretty sure this is his town game.
tfw i can't read tw
i'm actually really easy to read in a lot of ways >:3
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Post Post #123 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:18 pm

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In post 71, Brandi wrote:is this normal
In post 72, the worst wrote:is what normal?
I need Brandi to comment on this >:
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Post Post #126 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:10 pm

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uhhh sometimes? he's not always that quiet :p
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Post Post #129 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:24 pm

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In post 127, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:
In post 89, Ircher wrote:
In post 87, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:Now I'm getting paranoid about you, Irch, because I'm already paranoid about TW.

Anyhow, what do you all think about NM being active? in particular is interesting. I don't agree with his point, but I think it was serious, so that makes it strictly game-related. All of this was sparked by a push on NM.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
(not policy)
Why are you paranoid of The Worst and I?

That aside, I think Not_Mafia being active is more likely a sign that he is town than that he is scum. I am not in favor of lynching him at the moment.
I don't like the way TW's defending NM. He "defended" you in a similar tone, & #83 & #84 just don't mesh well tonally for me. :/
In post 99, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 87, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote: Anyhow, what do you all think about NM being active? in particular is interesting. I don't agree with his point, but I think it was serious, so that makes it strictly game-related. All of this was sparked by a push on NM.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
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Why is NM scum for this tho
It's different than what I've seen from town!NM so far.
double shadethrow

why does my defence of NM irk you? do you think it's more likely to come from scum!me or town!me in this situation?

what about NM's play here is different from your experiences and why does it come from scum!NM?
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Post Post #130 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:24 pm

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also just to highlight how little I liked that post

VOTE: GOSRIR
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Post Post #134 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:57 pm

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ftr I'm not suggesting NM is obviously town here I'm simply suggesting
1) policy lynching him for bad reasons is shit (slight FOS @ Quick, but mainly for another reason)
2) people who are scumreading him actually need to provide reasons for scumreading him

sue me


In post 132, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:It's mostly tonality, but rereading it there's also another big problem, namely that it's BS. It doesn't matter what you can do with NM in the late game because this setup is designed to end the game before the classic late-game scenario arises. (re: 2nd qn: yeah, obviously...)
"tone"...nice, I assume your "gut" informed this
you've been caught out throwing shade and you're sticking to your guns, I like this

your second sentence makes absolutely no sense. NM actually has decent reads and is super super stubborn so I'm not sure what you're suggesting here unless you think we're like s/s?
In post 132, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:This is my 3rd game he replaced in in a row. In the two previous ones his activity was markedly different, Keep in mind that in the 1st one his slot was my primary scumread, so inactivity should also apply under pressure. It's different from what I've seen, & what I've seen is town, so that suggests now he's scum.
what do you actually take out of this?
that a player who is often quiet as town but then offers a rush of fluffposts therefore must be scum due to the rush of fluffposts?
so you're trying to suggest he's sortable by postcount and suggesting high postcount = scum!NM

I'm gonna straight up suggest that you're making shit up on the spot. go actually read a few of NM's games for me and realise how much of an epic fail this is. his sheer level of activity is not alignment indicative. if you try to sort him by vote count you'll fuck up.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #29) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:59 pm

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like you're suspicious of me because of something "tonal"
and think NM is scum because of comically misapplied meta


please start playing mafia you're making this too easy
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Post Post #137 (isolation #30) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:39 pm

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you want me to explain how to read someone in the middle of a game?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:51 pm

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You'd rather hardlurker!NM than fluffposting!NM?
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Post Post #141 (isolation #32) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:13 pm

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link me to the NM games you're talking about.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #33) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:14 pm

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late-game is clearly contextual and revolves around the fact we'll have flips and will have spent weeks putting up with each other
not late-game as in 3p

maybe you should brush up on yours ;)
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Post Post #167 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:16 pm

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actually tbqh Quick's policy push on NM pinged me too
he's not really engaging in detail about why he thinks it's worthwhile....fmpov it felt like a thing he felt he could get away with and he was taken aback when he couldn't
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Post Post #168 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:17 pm

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having said that

Gosrir's push was worse
he's also scum

not really sure if Gosrir+Quick as buddies pile onto a policy wagon right off the bat sooo
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Post Post #170 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:49 am

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:facepalm:

talk me thru why you're townreading him?
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Post Post #178 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:00 am

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In post 172, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:but tried to move the game forward in a meaningful way(53.)
explain it like I'm 12 please
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Post Post #179 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:01 am

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In post 175, Quick wrote:
In post 167, the worst wrote:actually tbqh Quick's policy push on NM pinged me too
he's not really engaging in detail about why he thinks it's worthwhile....fmpov it felt like a thing he felt he could get away with and he was taken aback when he couldn't
Do I really have to remind you of last game we played together and what I said about NM?
nope I definitely remember.
why not elaborate on that here though? :(
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Post Post #182 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:27 pm

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ok that's an objectively correct post but what are you saying your motive in these inconsistencies is bc fmpov it's just throwing down a zero accountability lynch :(
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Post Post #186 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:33 pm

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ok guys I had an idea
let's make this the shortest running of Grey Flag ever.

today we lynch {Quick, Gosrir}. they vengekill the other.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:37 pm

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NM did you find it funny that a d1 policy flashwagon on you would've won town the game in mafia marathon apocalypse?
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Post Post #190 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:53 pm

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Gosrir feels like kinda obvious scum to me rn
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Post Post #192 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:58 pm

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why would I elaborate? I've got you convinced :]
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Post Post #194 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:04 pm

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I actually just checked the deadline for the first time. yikes.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:07 pm

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I don't rate the fact he claimed to be paranoid about both me and ircher on like page 3 or so. I don't like the way he skirted around the NM policy suggestion then threw a vote down for "non policy" reasons with insanely shonky backing to it. When I asked him about it he got super defensive and condescending but also managed to avoid really committing to anything.

he's just sheeped Quick while pretending to have his own reasoning then got snarky and defensive when asked to back this up :/
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Post Post #196 (isolation #46) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:08 pm

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I might be confbiasing a tiiiiiiiny bit but I don't see towniness there
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Post Post #197 (isolation #47) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:35 pm

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hello? is there anybody in there?
I'm meant to be townhunting : ( casing on page 8 feels filthy
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Post Post #204 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 201, Not_Mafia wrote:He regularly actively refuses to play on games, in his mind he’s an unsung hero taking a noble stand against big bad Not_Mafia, that’s just how he is. Ridiculous =/= scum
I get that but does his stance actually feel righteous to you here?
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Post Post #205 (isolation #49) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 202, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:Alright, kiddo. Quick dubbed the "turnt" inconsistency line, & asked the deadass question, namely "what's scummy?". That's ode gucci town PoV, fam. Radical!

(If you cannot keep up with the age group, we can go back to me explaining things to you like you're 5.)
(Actually, it took too "bare" google searches to make this post for me to bother again.)
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Post Post #209 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:33 pm

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^ this

OK I'm not going crazy
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Post Post #211 (isolation #51) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:09 pm

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I'm pretty null on Saudade tbqh. I thought we had more time this phase and was trying to bait him into giving more content v_v
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Post Post #212 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:09 pm

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top of my "sort d2" pile rn tho

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Post Post #214 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:05 pm

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1/3 of the list is scum in this setup. besides Quick who do you think could be scum?
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Post Post #217 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:21 pm

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what's struck you as towny from Gosrir?
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Post Post #219 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:31 pm

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hmm interesting

fwiw I'm scumreading him for more or less the same reasons. he's posted a fair bit but I'm not feeling a scumhunting vibe from him; it feels like he's more busy arguing around scumhunting and coming off as "correct" rather than offering like.... insight
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Post Post #220 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:36 pm

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I need more from Brandi mostly I think.

Cjv and Saudade have low postcounts but don't feel as active lurky. I'm actually getting a bit of spirit from those slots
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Post Post #224 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:36 pm

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Understand that, welcome aboard. :)
that was about Gosrir btw
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Post Post #226 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:49 pm

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I'm getting more town pings than scum pings from ircher this phase. cannot see myself voting there right now.

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Post Post #230 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:48 pm

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Idk what to take away from the fact the entire list seems OK with a Gosrir lynch
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Post Post #234 (isolation #60) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:11 am

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VOTE: Saudade

L-1
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Post Post #235 (isolation #61) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:12 am

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L-2**

nyehhhh let me sleep
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Post Post #237 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:34 am

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VOTE: Gosrir
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Post Post #240 (isolation #63) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:25 am

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scum is always a good d1 flip
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all good here :]
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Post Post #255 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:42 pm

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what do you feel we should be seeing Saudade?
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Post Post #258 (isolation #66) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:09 pm

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WHAT SKYGAZER HI I DIDN'T SEE THE MOD NOTE
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Post Post #262 (isolation #67) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:52 pm

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In post 260, Saudade wrote:
In post 255, the worst wrote:what do you feel we should be seeing Saudade?
it's not what you feel it's what you think.
Ah, yes Sky with the random vote out of nowhere and of course nobody cares that he hasn't said anything before nor give any reason for the vote.
Nyeh, whatevs.
Dude work with me here if no one else
I'm far from townreading you but there's people here I think are more likely to flip red than you

If you're town please show me how I can see that here. if you're not down dw abt it ur ass is goin down
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In post 264, Saudade wrote:I've been actively trying to read into peoples thought process and formulate my own reads rather than suck up to people and sheeping whatever comes
should I have seen this?
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not sheeping/sucking up is NAI
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I'm annoyed.
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just feels like I'm on the wrong track here. I think Saudade is the better lynch today but my reads aren't meshing well with the gamestate.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:33 pm

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who do you think we should be lynching?
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so accepting the fact we're probably not lynching Quick today, who's next best?
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Post Post #289 (isolation #74) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:59 pm

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eh
VOTE: Saudade

see you all tomorrow
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Not sure. is it?
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*shrugs* if it happens, it happens
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I'm assuming you're town Saudade?
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In post 297, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 291, the worst wrote:Not sure. is it?
I was first on a wagon
omg right normally I'm the stubborn bastard voteparking 1st slot on a wagon and you're the hammer
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In post 298, Saudade wrote:
In post 296, the worst wrote:I'm assuming you're town Saudade?
If you're assuming I'm town why are you voting me?
I hammered you.

after that response I'll elaborate after your flip
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I'm probably net leaning town on ircher rn.

If this flips town I want Gosrir tomorrow. >:{
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Sheeping to the point of not producing content is definitely bad

that being said I'm seriously lacking townreads this game and I don't think I'm wrong about my main townreads so far
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hmm I forgot how small this game is. maybe I'm doing ok
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VOTE: Gosrir

Ngl still drooling over the flavour
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ehhhh the hammer was a moment of brief hysteria

he was far from a townread and gamestate suggested he'd be lynched anyway. I took the fact no one minded lynching Gosrir as indicative that he was the dedicated d1 mislynch but tbh I'm starting to think his buddies probably would have just said that to distance
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like in hindsight his wagon stalled kinda weirdly
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ugh Quick are you scum here? :/
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I wanna say never ofrhz or cjv. probably within {you, NM, Ircher} off the top of my head
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wat
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In post 335, Quick wrote:
In post 328, the worst wrote:ehhhh the hammer was a moment of brief hysteria

he was far from a townread and gamestate suggested he'd be lynched anyway. I took the fact no one minded lynching Gosrir as indicative that he was the dedicated d1 mislynch but tbh I'm starting to think his buddies probably would have just said that to distance
I thought you said earlier that the hammer was an accident.. Now you are saying it was a "mistake." This is a conflicting narrative. The motive for saying it was a mistake now is because you don't want to be caught with the blame of LOL!Hammering.
the hammer was very much intentional and my regret for it is pretty low tbqh. like we were gonna lynch Saudade d1 and he did nothing to even try and prove he was town. I do have minor regrets that we didn't lynch one of {you, Gosrir} instead because I think you're far more likely scum flips right now.
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In post 333, the worst wrote:I wanna say never ofrhz or cjv. probably within {you, NM, Ircher} off the top of my head
We have one Town flip and you are trying to find teams? That much more often comes from Scum in my experience.
buddy I was directly asked who I could see as partners by ofrhz, to which I replied. I haven't put a lot of time into speculating partners for very obvious reasons hence half assing the response.
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sorry. Skygazer asked not ofrhz.
don't mafia while asleep fam
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Why would Quick be conftown? And yeah considering potential scumbuddies is good within reason..... like a narrative has to fit but even excluding yourself at this stage there's like 21 team possibilities so defs stronger sorting by actual reads
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@mod
could you please give cjv a swift prod for me? : ]
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serious question. did you just read my ISO or did you read the surrounding posts?
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In post 290, Not_Mafia wrote:Is today opposite day?
In post 291, the worst wrote:Not sure. is it?

should be self explanatory I missed NM's joke
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Post Post #351 (isolation #95) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:00 am

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this feels closer to a misrep than a case bro... what do you think was funny business?
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Post Post #357 (isolation #96) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:12 pm

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ofrhz NM and CJV where are your reads at?
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Post Post #359 (isolation #97) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:23 pm

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I think I need to suss some scumgames of Quick's. this feels super super gross but I can't decide if it's intentional or not..... it doesn't strike me as the kinda thing I'd expect from scum!him
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Post Post #360 (isolation #98) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:25 pm

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unless he's literally just shoving attention off Gosrir
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Post Post #361 (isolation #99) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:34 pm

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eeehhhhhh
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Post Post #362 (isolation #100) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:35 pm

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Skygazer if I told you you're firmly in my scum PoE how would you feel?
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Post Post #364 (isolation #101) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:42 pm

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ugh you're so charismatic I feel bad for thinking poorly of you
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Post Post #365 (isolation #102) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:50 pm

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got any thoughts on the gamestate here? :(
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Post Post #371 (isolation #103) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:07 pm

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:thinking:
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Post Post #372 (isolation #104) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:08 pm

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ofrhz I'm never lynching you
even if you're ridiculously scum here I'll lynch your buddies instead
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Post Post #373 (isolation #105) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:10 pm

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{Gosrir, Ircher, (not relevant)}?
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Post Post #379 (isolation #106) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:56 am

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Asdfghjkl;'

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Post Post #380 (isolation #107) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:01 pm

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I can kinda see a world where Quick is town honestly. I feel like scum!him would be slower paced? like less eager to leap into glorious hypocricy

but if ircher and quick are both town the scumteam is like {NM, Gosrir, Skygazer} by PoE and I'm not sure that team holds much synergy. it just feels like the 3 most lynchable people itt which means I'm probably wrong somewhere
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Post Post #383 (isolation #108) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:22 pm

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can you throw me a full reads list Quick?
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Post Post #385 (isolation #109) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:24 pm

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I need flips to have a decent go at sorting NM. why would I try to sort NM with only a single flip >:/
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Post Post #388 (isolation #110) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:28 pm

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talk me through your scum PoE maybe?

don't force content which ends up being meaningless ofc. there's a world where we're both town here, and in this setup we're more or less fucked unless town can glue itself together.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #111) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:25 pm

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ofrhz is not scum

can you talk me through your scum PoE ot
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Post Post #392 (isolation #112) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:49 pm

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I hacked her account and read her role pm. why is she not town?
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Post Post #394 (isolation #113) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:28 pm

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that's some shallow logic..... ofrhz is actually smart. I think she's posting exactly what's on her mind with no regard for how it's perceived.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #114) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:06 pm

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I'm gonna refer back to Noir..... There's a fine line between a carried scumbuddy and obviously town.....

look I'll re-read and reconsider ofrhz but I'd put her at my strongest townread rn
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Post Post #397 (isolation #115) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:06 pm

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meta is prolly informing this read a fair bit I guess
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Post Post #399 (isolation #116) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:15 pm

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they both kinda stalled but interesting. I actually think it's interesting both of them have spun around and voted outside of each other
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Post Post #400 (isolation #117) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:15 pm

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playing quiplash I promise I'll use full thoughts sentences l8r lol
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Post Post #402 (isolation #118) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:08 pm

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what were you suggesting then? Sounded to me like you were concerned about the fact she was universally townread
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Post Post #416 (isolation #119) » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:04 pm

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Idk where to go next here.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #120) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:25 pm

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that's generally an indicator NM is either scum with Quick or town townreading Quick.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #121) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:26 pm

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actually what made you jump to that assumption
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Post Post #434 (isolation #122) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:38 pm

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I honestly wouldn't expect anything different from Quick
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Post Post #436 (isolation #123) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:10 pm

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I'm kinda balancing out to NAI :/
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Post Post #438 (isolation #124) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:17 pm

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I'm kinda frustrated by the stagnant level of activity here because I could see that coming from Gosrir as either alignment here. :( There's not a lot of AI posting
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Post Post #440 (isolation #125) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:26 pm

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why would you not tho
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Post Post #442 (isolation #126) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:31 pm

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that's L-1 and a huge part of me just wants to hammer this and find out if I've been crazy all along or not >:/
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Post Post #444 (isolation #127) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:38 pm

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VOTE: Quick

it's been fun
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Post Post #446 (isolation #128) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:42 pm

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I wish I lived in a world where I was bold enough tbh
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Post Post #447 (isolation #129) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:51 pm

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I'm like fairly certain this just flips red. probably myself or ofrhz are dying.
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Post Post #448 (isolation #130) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:53 pm

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also pretty sure a red flip here spews CJV town which saves a lot of headfuck
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Post Post #450 (isolation #131) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:57 pm

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uuhhh worst case scenario would be skygazer

now that i'm thinking about it derphammerfailing when the vc is right at the top of the page and there's only been two votes is kinda like.....
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Post Post #451 (isolation #132) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:58 pm

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but i guess we only need to actually find two scum to win this shit so w/e
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Post Post #452 (isolation #133) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:58 pm

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don't think too hard about it
sorry ruru I shoulda left you that pagetop :C
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Post Post #455 (isolation #134) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:04 pm

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okay my most paranoid of paranoid theories is probably just paranoid. sawing through {Gosrir, Ircher} should still win this.
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if this is actually town I'll be around to kick ass and chew gum tomorrow, and my gum supplies are unlikely to last 168 hours.
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Post Post #471 (isolation #136) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:04 am

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Whatever I need to do some work.

I'd agree on face value ofrhz--need to vca to be comfortable he's not a well primed mislynch tho. I was actually paranoid that QUICK was the one strong-arm defending his wagon.
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is anyone else gonna vca this? someone tell me they saw what I saw.
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@Gosrir who's scum? your case on this page is really bad and we don't have any mislynches here.
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Vote counts seem to be alphabetical so I'll need to actually shit down and do this at some point
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Post Post #478 (isolation #140) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:16 am

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sit**
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do you see anything interesting there?
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there's 3 scum. Loafers is ofrhz btw

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if I'm scum who the hell do you think my partners are?
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You first I insist
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the fuck is that reads list? I actually thought you were town here. give me a minute.
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{TW}
{ofrhz}
{NM}
{cjv, skygazer} (null)
{Ircher, Gosrir}
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NM settle down we're both town. If I'm scum who am I scum with?
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dude unvote
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omg lmao
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Post Post #497 (isolation #149) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:06 am

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after yessirree's pypx/y I'm never trusting a 3p quickhammer not to happen again
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Post Post #501 (isolation #150) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:07 am

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I honestly had a really hard time townreading Quick here. like his reasoning was shonky and he put a lot of effort into defending slots which didn't really deserve it
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Post Post #502 (isolation #151) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:08 am

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yeah okay I should have realised I'd be pushed here.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #152) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:08 am

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VOTE: Gosrir
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Post Post #511 (isolation #153) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:35 pm

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ding ding
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Post Post #513 (isolation #154) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:03 pm

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uhhh give or take, I think my quickhammer baiting was a bit too baity but I'm kinda interested in something else here
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Post Post #517 (isolation #155) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:07 pm

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not like anyone but Saudade was gonna eat the lynch d1. we were too close to deadline to get anything else done and he was not playing. also Mr. Quack!hammer is brilliant
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Post Post #518 (isolation #156) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:08 pm

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CJV where are your reads at?
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Post Post #519 (isolation #157) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:08 pm

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you've been quiet as hell here
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Post Post #523 (isolation #158) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:51 pm

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I feel kinda warm and fuzzy that someone else has reached the exact same conclusion I did tbh

townlean reestablished
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Post Post #527 (isolation #159) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:01 pm

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In post 524, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:VOTE: the worst

I think it's fairly obvious. I can only reiterate myself: I've been TW's most prominent scumread since the very beginning of D1, yet he decided to hammer two other players in a row. That's anything but town.
BTW, neither the Saudade nor the Quick wagon was inevitable. Saudade might could've been sorted without him defending himself (it's not like NM's been defending himself, & people seem to be convinced he's town. À propos, @CJ: we're still doing the walking-you-through-the-NM-case-like-you-were-the-toddler-you-are routine, so answer my previous question.) Anyhow, I'm not salty about his lynch because he wouldn't have added anything useful anyway. But after his flip, Quick was essentially conftown.

he warns me there aren't any more mislynches left. Well, yeah, no need telling me, as I haven't mislynched anyone in this game. Then he also tells me that my case on him is bad, as if he weren't the only person who had no say in that. These are attempts at trying to misdirect us from the fact that he's hammered two players so far instead of pushing his primary scumread.
What the hell is this? I'm sorry that I've had a consistent scumread on you and my reads on other players have changed. I do not believe that you actually think me seeing the Saudade lynch as a necessity and needing to know Quick's alignment is scum indicative. if anything you arrogantly tunnelling me and providing nearly no substantial content all game is scum indicative. Don't even give us this shit.

What part of Saudade's trajectory made you think he was suddenly going to become magically towny? He continuously got less and less towny as he got more and more bored of the game. If we didn't lynch him d1 odds are we would have ended up lynching him later. Like nothing about his ISO makes me think "ah yes my bad we could have easily realised he was town if he wasn't lynched". Do you have some useful meta tells on Saudade that you didn't mention or are you talking out of your ass?

How did town!Saudade ever = "essential conftown" Quick to you?

Trying to win last minute towncred because you haven't mislynched anyone (when that's the case because you haven't fucking done anything) is awful.

I'm never losing to lurk scum like this.
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Post Post #528 (isolation #160) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:03 pm

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Sorry if I sound angry. I don't mislynch easy and I don't appreciate for a moment your suggestion that my position in our mislynches somehow makes me likely to flip scum. It's an absolute farce.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #161) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:08 am

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I'm sorry everyone (and ofrhz in particular D': )

Gonna go read that delicious delicious eod3 flavour. ruru I want to eat your flavour. #fullhomo
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Post Post #571 (isolation #162) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:09 am

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...huh that sounded creepier than anticipated. I just woke up.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #163) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:12 am

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I AM SO SORRY

ruru your flavour was awesome. I feel like open games massively suffer a flavour disadvantage becausd of the nature of public flavour (there are definitely exceptions, like off the top of my head brassherald and Mathdino have done awesome jobs with public flavour) -- but your modding style totally bypasses that. the story was really fun and the EOD scenes had me like "ohoho being evil is fun"

you're teh best
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Post Post #575 (isolation #164) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:23 am

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yeah same here. I actually laughed at a couple of the scenes, the theme was really clever.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #165) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:24 am

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In post 560, ofrhz wrote:God dammit

Well played scum!

I s2g the one time I don’t scumread tw, this happens.
o man I was so worried you'd realise at the last minute that I was shady
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Post Post #579 (isolation #166) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:29 am

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btw @Gosrir and kinda everyone, always sheep NM

Spoiler:
In post 17, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: ceejay

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In post 31, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 24, ofrhz wrote:ruru, how dare you lock me in this room

VOTE: ceejay

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VOTE: ceejay
In post 231, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: sAUDEDE
In post 199, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 186, the worst wrote:ok guys I had an idea
let's make this the shortest running of Grey Flag ever.

today we lynch {Quick, Gosrir}. they vengekill the other.
Nah Quick is town
In post 319, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Gosrir

Lets lynch off wagon
In post 358, Not_Mafia wrote:Still think Quick is town
In post 423, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: ceejay
In post 487, Not_Mafia wrote:Told you Quick was town

VOTE: The Worst
In post 496, Not_Mafia wrote:UNVOTE:
In post 533, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: The worst
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Post Post #580 (isolation #167) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:33 am

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In post 578, ruru wrote:From my biased perspective quick and nm were the most obvious town

I was surprised you weren't more suspected for hammering quick
Quick was really good here
and therefore had to die
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Post Post #582 (isolation #168) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:36 am

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You're usually scum :lol:
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Post Post #586 (isolation #169) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:50 am

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I was inhaling popcorn and preparing for a bloody battle
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Post Post #588 (isolation #170) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:53 am

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Bring anti PLing NM is a genuine stance btw I've seen people being lazy about sorting him cause way more chaos than good

but it was kind of a meme mentioning this after comodding MARATHON MAFIA: APOCALYPSE in which a NM policy flashwagon would have literally won town the game with 6 votes

luckily ircher was the only one who played in that and I didn't think he'd bring it up

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Post Post #590 (isolation #171) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:07 am

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he was also right all along

lolhammering townies is awesome fun
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Post Post #592 (isolation #172) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:44 am

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*spits tea* just because I normally lose... >:
it's my sixth scumgame and third win :P
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Post Post #594 (isolation #173) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:49 am

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yeah defs excluding marathons hahah I should work out my mara/turbo stats at some point!
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Post Post #597 (isolation #174) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:53 am

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I kinda agree hah. plus a fair bit of it is just luck and sheer momentum.

pedit: I've got a spreadsheet running instead. I'll add some hot links for meta stuff at some point but I've played about 25 plus maybe 7 ongoing?
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Post Post #599 (isolation #175) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:06 pm

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I draw scum a fair bit yeah :( I feel like its probably roughly balanced out? but if you throw marathons in I'm ALWAYS evil
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Post Post #604 (isolation #176) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:28 pm

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dat activity overview, honestly....
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Post Post #607 (isolation #177) » Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:30 pm

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@irch/cjv
we were one replacement away from getting destroyed!!
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Post Post #609 (isolation #178) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:54 pm

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thanks, fitijkks.
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Ugh you too? I know a guy. I'll send you his details.
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