Open 733: Grey Flag (Complete)
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VOTE: Gosrir Elmer Odels
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great flavour ruru. :3
sorry for ninjaing the vc.- the worst
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not voting ircher. I've missed him. I keep playing with this 123456789 dude who has a similar avi and is kinda cool but it's just not the same.- the worst
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Still tryna take in everything that's happening in that Not_Mafia post woaahhh- the worst
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I'd say you're being too QuickIn post 14, Quick wrote:@Duck,
What would you say if I said I had a TR on both you and Ircher at this point?
VOTE: Not Mafia
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VOTE: ceejay
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talk me thru why you wanna PL him hereIn post 28, Quick wrote:Don't expect me to do much until NM is lynched, K thanks.- the worst
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yikes D: I hope you're okay Brandi- the worst
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What do you think of Quick's PL stance on NM?- the worst
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ya same tbh but PLing NM in particular interests me.....guess I'll wait for Quick to respond- the worst
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that is an entirely non sketchy and well intended wagon, nicely done fam bam
@Quick what if I told you NM can be sorted (generally) fairly easily late game and has generally good reads?- the worst
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o boy cjv we don't get to play together often enough
and you're rude enough to roll scum on me? you know how to break a duckling's heart.- the worst
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is what normal?- the worst
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It's like progressive rock or abstract art.- the worst
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ofrhz hi hi hi- the worst
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it's pronounced ofrhz
loafers for the uninitiated I believe?- the worst
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I think it's too soon to talk about slips. >:In post 80, ofrhz wrote:Do you think this was a real slip
it'll be too soon for a long time
also, interesting vote
VOTE: Saudade- the worst
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ofrhz and I just finished a game a few weeks back where two townies unironically townslipped =_= but yeah it's better not to read into them too much- the worst
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Your reaction to bring wagoned is consistent with your name, Saudade- the worst
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Quick would you say you're inconsistent?
(please answer "no" to prove your point)
Saudade how many scum do you think piled your wagon- the worst
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i have two minor scumleans this is exciting!!!- the worst
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i'm actually really easy to read in a lot of ways >:3In post 119, ofrhz wrote:
tfw i can't read twIn post 118, Ircher wrote:Everything from Not_Mafia so far screams gut!town to me.
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In post 71, Brandi wrote:is this normal
I need Brandi to comment on this >:In post 72, the worst wrote:is what normal?- the worst
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uhhh sometimes? he's not always that quiet :p- the worst
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double shadethrowIn post 127, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:
I don't like the way TW's defending NM. He "defended" you in a similar tone, & #83 & #84 just don't mesh well tonally for me. :/In post 89, Ircher wrote:
Why are you paranoid of The Worst and I?In post 87, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:Now I'm getting paranoid about you, Irch, because I'm already paranoid about TW.
Anyhow, what do you all think about NM being active? 51 in particular is interesting. I don't agree with his point, but I think it was serious, so that makes it strictly game-related. All of this was sparked by a push on NM.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
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That aside, I think Not_Mafia being active is more likely a sign that he is town than that he is scum. I am not in favor of lynching him at the moment.
It's different than what I've seen from town!NM so far.In post 99, ceejayvinoya wrote:
Why is NM scum for this thoIn post 87, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote: Anyhow, what do you all think about NM being active? 51 in particular is interesting. I don't agree with his point, but I think it was serious, so that makes it strictly game-related. All of this was sparked by a push on NM.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
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why does my defence of NM irk you? do you think it's more likely to come from scum!me or town!me in this situation?
what about NM's play here is different from your experiences and why does it come from scum!NM?- the worst
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also just to highlight how little I liked that post
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ftr I'm not suggesting NM is obviously town here I'm simply suggesting
1) policy lynching him for bad reasons is shit (slight FOS @ Quick, but mainly for another reason)
2) people who are scumreading him actually need to provide reasons for scumreading him
sue me
"tone"...nice, I assume your "gut" informed thisIn post 132, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:It's mostly tonality, but rereading it there's also another big problem, namely that it's BS. It doesn't matter what you can do with NM in the late game because this setup is designed to end the game before the classic late-game scenario arises. (re: 2nd qn: yeah, obviously...)
you've been caught out throwing shade and you're sticking to your guns, I like this
your second sentence makes absolutely no sense. NM actually has decent reads and is super super stubborn so I'm not sure what you're suggesting here unless you think we're like s/s?
what do you actually take out of this?In post 132, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:This is my 3rd game he replaced in in a row. In the two previous ones his activity was markedly different, Keep in mind that in the 1st one his slot was my primary scumread, so inactivity should also apply under pressure. It's different from what I've seen, & what I've seen is town, so that suggests now he's scum.
that a player who is often quiet as town but then offers a rush of fluffposts therefore must be scum due to the rush of fluffposts?
so you're trying to suggest he's sortable by postcount and suggesting high postcount = scum!NM
I'm gonna straight up suggest that you're making shit up on the spot. go actually read a few of NM's games for me and realise how much of an epic fail this is. his sheer level of activity is not alignment indicative. if you try to sort him by vote count you'll fuck up.- the worst
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like you're suspicious of me because of something "tonal"
and think NM is scum because of comically misapplied meta
please start playing mafia you're making this too easy- the worst
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you want me to explain how to read someone in the middle of a game?- the worst
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You'd rather hardlurker!NM than fluffposting!NM?- the worst
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link me to the NM games you're talking about.- the worst
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late-game is clearly contextual and revolves around the fact we'll have flips and will have spent weeks putting up with each other
not late-game as in 3p
maybe you should brush up on yours- the worst
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actually tbqh Quick's policy push on NM pinged me too
he's not really engaging in detail about why he thinks it's worthwhile....fmpov it felt like a thing he felt he could get away with and he was taken aback when he couldn't- the worst
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having said that
Gosrir's push was worse
he's also scum
not really sure if Gosrir+Quick as buddies pile onto a policy wagon right off the bat sooo- the worst
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talk me thru why you're townreading him?- the worst
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explain it like I'm 12 pleaseIn post 172, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:but tried to move the game forward in a meaningful way(53.)- the worst
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nope I definitely remember.In post 175, Quick wrote:
Do I really have to remind you of last game we played together and what I said about NM?In post 167, the worst wrote:actually tbqh Quick's policy push on NM pinged me too
he's not really engaging in detail about why he thinks it's worthwhile....fmpov it felt like a thing he felt he could get away with and he was taken aback when he couldn't
why not elaborate on that here though?- the worst
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ok that's an objectively correct post but what are you saying your motive in these inconsistencies is bc fmpov it's just throwing down a zero accountability lynch- the worst
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ok guys I had an idea
let's make this the shortest running of Grey Flag ever.
today we lynch {Quick, Gosrir}. they vengekill the other.- the worst
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NM did you find it funny that a d1 policy flashwagon on you would've won town the game in mafia marathon apocalypse?- the worst
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Gosrir feels like kinda obvious scum to me rn- the worst
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why would I elaborate? I've got you convinced- the worst
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I actually just checked the deadline for the first time. yikes.- the worst
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I don't rate the fact he claimed to be paranoid about both me and ircher on like page 3 or so. I don't like the way he skirted around the NM policy suggestion then threw a vote down for "non policy" reasons with insanely shonky backing to it. When I asked him about it he got super defensive and condescending but also managed to avoid really committing to anything.
he's just sheeped Quick while pretending to have his own reasoning then got snarky and defensive when asked to back this up :/- the worst
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I might be confbiasing a tiiiiiiiny bit but I don't see towniness there- the worst
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hello? is there anybody in there?
I'm meant to be townhunting : ( casing on page 8 feels filthy- the worst
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I get that but does his stance actually feel righteous to you here?In post 201, Not_Mafia wrote:He regularly actively refuses to play on games, in his mind he’s an unsung hero taking a noble stand against big bad Not_Mafia, that’s just how he is. Ridiculous =/= scum- the worst
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*blinks slowly*In post 202, Gosrir Elmer Odels wrote:Alright, kiddo. Quick dubbed the "turnt" inconsistency line, & asked the deadass question, namely "what's scummy?". That's ode gucci town PoV, fam. Radical!
(If you cannot keep up with the age group, we can go back to me explaining things to you like you're 5.)
(Actually, it took too "bare" google searches to make this post for me to bother again.)
I need a picture book please.- the worst
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OK I'm not going crazy- the worst
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I'm pretty null on Saudade tbqh. I thought we had more time this phase and was trying to bait him into giving more content v_v- the worst
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top of my "sort d2" pile rn tho
where are you at with him?- the worst
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1/3 of the list is scum in this setup. besides Quick who do you think could be scum?- the worst
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what's struck you as towny from Gosrir?- the worst
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hmm interesting
fwiw I'm scumreading him for more or less the same reasons. he's posted a fair bit but I'm not feeling a scumhunting vibe from him; it feels like he's more busy arguing around scumhunting and coming off as "correct" rather than offering like.... insight- the worst
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I need more from Brandi mostly I think.
Cjv and Saudade have low postcounts but don't feel as active lurky. I'm actually getting a bit of spirit from those slots- the worst
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Understand that, welcome aboard.
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