Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia Endgame

[Invisibility]

no

[Ankamius]

This game is next on my list, I'll be here shortly

[Ankamius]

How many mafia are we probably dealing with? I assume 4-5?

[Ankamius]

Either scum aren't doing what I believe most rational scumteams would be doing or there's a different amount than four scum.

Hm.

I'm honestly not sure how to start analyzing here, can someone walk me through what happened this game so far?

[hebichan]

After a few days thinking it over, and deciding to be vindictive, I am pretty sure nk15 is scum here.

Scum are directly trying to get me to stay alive to blackmail me into voting with them in the later phases in exchange for my win here.

NK could have announced he was double voting wheme and I couldn't have stopped him if wheme decided to single vote, even if I double voted someone else, wheme couldn't be sure nk was telling the truth an still voted himself. That would have given town a leash they could have used to use my power to arrange a district in town's favor.

Instead, he went back on his own policy, double voted, so I wouldn't end the game? Which shouldn't be a concern when my win condition is fairly simple to achieve, without scum interference at least.


So tonight, I'm going to use my power to try and set up a win.

HURT: NK15

[Not Known 15]

Which shouldn't be a concern when my win condition is fairly simple to achieve, without scum interference at least.

And there is nothing bad that happens when you win, other than you leaving?
You lied to us once about what happens with your abilities when you said that protest would prevent us from lynching you; when it instead delayed the lynch and would have given the president problems after lynch...
why should we trust your claim, that you are indeed a neutral that doesn't harm town by more than existing?

[Ankamius]

Hebi what is your role?

NK15 can you unpack the lie more for me?

[hebichan]

Which shouldn't be a concern when my win condition is fairly simple to achieve, without scum interference at least.

And there is nothing bad that happens when you win, other than you leaving?
You lied to us once about what happens with your abilities when you said that protest would prevent us from lynching you; when it instead delayed the lynch and would have given the president problems after lynch...
why should we trust your claim, that you are indeed a neutral that doesn't harm town by more than existing?

Of course I would lie about my protestor ability, you guys wanted to lynch me.

I puffed out my cheeks to look stronger than I was.

But why didn't you publicly say you were goingto double vote for wheme when there was no way for me to counter that? Why keep it secret?

[hebichan]

Ausuka, my role is weird.

I'm a third party anarchist with some unlockable joat abilities. I win if I am in two tied districts over the course of the game. Basically flavor wise I'm trying to make the government less stable.


I can unlock three powers by performing certain feats.
The first was a one shot protest, when I am caught for election fraud, I get the ability to basically stop a lynch once per game, they can revote the person but I originally claimed it stopped them from relynching that person one game to hope to survive since I didn't know what the flavor would be that came with it.

Second is a one shot riot. After I am in my first tied district, I get the ability to supercede mafia in choosing how one district is laid out one night. I asked since then when in order this happens, It happens after mafia has chosen districts but before the kill, so if someone is killed and districts have to be merged because of too few people in a district, that still happens.

And after a coalition is elected, I get a one shot lock down, which basically means I can keep a district the same as it was the previous day and mafia can not move people in or out of it that night.

[mutantdevle]

Hebi, if I understand your ability correctly then surely to win you'd just need to make a district just the 2 of us? I'm more than happy to arrange a tied district with you.

[hebichan]

Hebi, if I understand your ability correctly then surely to win you'd just need to make a district just the 2 of us? I'm more than happy to arrange a tied district with you.

I'm not sure I want to outright say my plan, because mafia could use the kill to subvert it, but I will keep that in mind.

Yeah, a two person district is optimal.

[Aronis]

Honestly I would be happy if NK15 died.

[skitter30]

Btw, I think I trust BB now. I feel like scum in BB’s position would have just used this opportunity to get another miss lynch.

i was thinking this too tbh

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why is aronis town again

i know what he's thinking most of the time, and what his goals are, and the actions he's taken align with those goals given his personality. like he wants to elect wheme so that he can lynch you - i think that this is the dumbest thing possible but the key thing is that *he* thinks that wheme has a point and is trying to make that plan happen within the mechanics of the game

his reads make sense and even though he's viewed as being scummy he isn't changing his playstyle or reads in order to conform to popular opinion or to get people off his back - like his playstyle is annoying and is making him scumread but he hasn't modulated that when people said they found him scummy

most of the things he's being scumread for i think are playstyle indicative and not alignment indicative - sketchy people are pushing him (nk15) with inane, trumped-up cases but can't actually explain why he's scummy or what scum agenda he's pursuing.

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-______- I don’t get why

because there is still a chance that their win ends the game, even if their claim is true.

again, why go after third-party on day4 when we haven't flipped scum yet?

also i think she's been acting in good faith - she coudl have double-voted again to try to get that tied district either today and i think yesterday too but hasn't

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Good morning

I will catch myself up when I get a chance

hi!

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Either scum aren't doing what I believe most rational scumteams would be doing or there's a different amount than four scum.

Hm.

I'm honestly not sure how to start analyzing here, can someone walk me through what happened this game so far?

what do u think rational scumteams would be doing here?

[Psyche]

ok ill try one more time this weekend

[Ankamius]

Skitter: trying to rig the districts to get two free votes pushed through

Although maybe that's the type of strategy that would be better pushed in gamestates like where we are at now, where individual votes are more impact full.

Idk, trying to figure stuff like that isn't very easy in a game this complex

[Ankamius]

Just mapping out the districts doesn't indicate that scum went that route since the beginning of day one at least, no idea about only doing it some days

[WhemeStar]

Hi ank

[Ankamius]

Hi Whemestar

What's up

[WhemeStar]

Idk I hate this game

Town doing dumb things

[Myloninja13]

I feel bad for this set up lol.

[Ankamius]

well

what exactly is town doing

this setup is one of the worst possible ones I've ever seen for ways to get invested into it

[Myloninja13]

well

what exactly is town doing

this setup is one of the worst possible ones I've ever seen for ways to get invested into it

I think we're waiting for BB to come back?

BTW, I've decided tomorrow to run for prez so things will be interesting then maybe!

[Ankamius]

like

hebi's claim isn't scummy and from what I can tell, the lie she apparently told is the type that makes sense with her claim

I think I don't understand the setup well enough to understand what the point against NK15 is?

[Ankamius]

well

what exactly is town doing

this setup is one of the worst possible ones I've ever seen for ways to get invested into it

I think we're waiting for BB to come back?

BTW, I've decided tomorrow to run for prez so things will be interesting then maybe!

honestly

I'd probably vote for you just because you're the first person in this thread that's not making my brain melt

[Myloninja13]

well

what exactly is town doing

this setup is one of the worst possible ones I've ever seen for ways to get invested into it

I think we're waiting for BB to come back?

BTW, I've decided tomorrow to run for prez so things will be interesting then maybe!

honestly

I'd probably vote for you just because you're the first person in this thread that's not making my brain melt

Ay, thanks!