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Post Post #6975 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:00 pm

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VOTE: Titus

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Post Post #6976 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:00 pm

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In post 6964, Titus wrote:I have a date night with my husband now.

If I am alive, thank you.
If not, good night and good luck to town.
hope you enjoy it, if nothing else! :)

and hope you at least enjoyed this game :P
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Post Post #6977 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:00 pm

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VOTE: titus

gn fa

hf titus

gl town
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Post Post #6978 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:01 pm

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In post 6972, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 6924, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 6801, Sakura Hana wrote:
Sakura (9): Math, Nancy, Nos, Creature, hebichan, the worst (right?), toogeloo (?), Kokichi (?), Toranaga
Mathblade (9): Sakura, Gamma, FA, stungun, Sando, Drixx (?), Katsuki (?), Shiro (?), zmuffinman’s slot if not modkilled (?)
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Can i squeeze this in before thread lock?
I bloom in spring?
Please be nice to me.
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Post Post #6979 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:02 pm

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In post 6372, stungun0404 wrote:ok, i suppose we can try forcing slots, and they can just confirm whether they feel comfortable enough to follow-up on it. if i’ve lead the lynch for today, i suppose i can lead here too with a suggestion

so bolding this because of its importance,

we could try 9 and 9

i’ll move over to mathblade and suggest this
Sakura (9): Math, Nancy, Nos, Creature, hebichan, the worst (right?), toogeloo (?), Kokichi (?), zmuffinman’s slot if not modkilled (?)
Mathblade (9): Sakura, Gamma, FA, stungun, Sando, Drixx (?), Toranaga (?), Katsuki (?), Shiro (?)


this assumes titus is lynched, and that everyone is ok with their placement on the respective wagons

@toogeloo, this assumes you are ok with voting sakura hana as leader. you seem to think titus is town, however titus concluding sakura hana to be town from his vca. can you investigate her reasoning and see if you conclude the same about sakura being town?

literally everyone right now is townreading sakura, because their content clearly shows they are town, so an iso of sakura might help you reach that conclusion too
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Post Post #6980 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:02 pm

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Now that Titus has been lynched, please replace me thanks!
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Post Post #6981 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:02 pm

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eh i switched tora and muffin coz tora wanted to vote for me.
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Post Post #6982 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:03 pm

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In post 6981, Sakura Hana wrote:eh i switched tora and muffin coz tora wanted to vote for me.
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Post Post #6983 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:03 pm

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In post 6976, stungun0404 wrote:
In post 6964, Titus wrote:I have a date night with my husband now.

If I am alive, thank you.
If not, good night and good luck to town.
hope you enjoy it, if nothing else! :)

and hope you at least enjoyed this game :P
No but that's players like Math's fault. My emotion was absolutely genuine. I felt that I was never allowed to play the game due to insane standards, constant spam, and ridiculous expectations.

I don't even remembet who is scum half the time.
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Post Post #6984 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:03 pm

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That's funny considering you were one of the main contributors to the pyramid spam titus
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Post Post #6985 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:04 pm

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In post 6980, Katsuki wrote:
Now that Titus has been lynched, please replace me thanks!
This too. People only play to lynch me. Not to play mafia.
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Post Post #6986 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:04 pm

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In post 6981, Sakura Hana wrote:eh i switched tora and muffin coz tora wanted to vote for me.
OK. THEN THIS CAN BE OUR PLAN PERIOD


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Post Post #6987 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:05 pm

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In post 6985, Titus wrote:
In post 6980, Katsuki wrote:
Now that Titus has been lynched, please replace me thanks!
This too. People only play to lynch me. Not to play mafia.
That's blatantly untrue. Muffins had his reasons and so did I thoguh I forget what they were.

I'll stop posting now since I already requested replacement.
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Post Post #6988 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:05 pm

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In post 6984, Katsuki wrote:That's funny considering you were one of the main contributors to the pyramid spam titus
You try defending an 11 v1 on no posts. Blame me more for what you did.
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Post Post #6989 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:06 pm

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That explains your posting D1 too?
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Post Post #6990 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:22 pm

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Votecount 3.20
Leader: Frozen Angel

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Titus (LYNCH):
Katsuki, MathBlade, Sando, Gamma Emerald, Sakura Hana, Nancy Drew 39, stungun0404, Nosferatu, Frozen Angel, Titus

Creature (4):
zMuffinMan, the worst, Toogeloo, Toranaga

Katsuki (3):
Shiro, hebichan, Kokichi Oma

Drixx (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

hebichan (0):

Kokichi Oma (0):

MathBlade(0):

Nancy Drew 39 (0):

Nosferatu (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Sando (0):

Shiro (0):

stungun0404 (0):

the worst (0):

Toogeloo (0):

Toranaga (0):

zMuffinMan (0):


Not Voting (2):
Creature, Drixx

With
19
players, it takes
10
to lynch.
A lynch has been achieved.


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Post Post #6991 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:26 pm

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MAN
YOU ALL TALK
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I DIDN'T THINK YOU WERE ALL EVEN GOING TO MAKE IT IN TIME
WAY TO PROVE ME WRONG
NOW LET'S SEE IF YOU WERE ALL ABLE TO ATONE FOR YOUR PREVIOUS BLUNDER

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Post Post #6992 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:33 pm

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Notification PM's have been sent to each member of the Superhero Team. If you didn't receive one, then you weren't selected.

Deadline for Power Acquisition and Night Actions is in (expired on 2018-08-04 19:00:00).
Deadline for Leader votes is in (expired on 2018-08-04 19:00:00). You may not vote for yourself or Frozen Angel.

Day 4 will open no later than in (expired on 2018-08-05 19:00:00).

Late submissions or modifications will not be accepted.

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Impenetrable Skin:
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Petrification:
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Post Post #6993 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:19 pm

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ANOTHER MORNING
ANOTHER DEATH
CAN'T SAY I'M SURPRISED THOUGH
SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST PREFER THE DEAD TO STAY DEAD

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Post Post #6994 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:29 pm

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MathBlade
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Theta Alpine replaces zMuffinMan.
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Post Post #6995 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:29 pm

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DAY 4 BEGINS

Votecount 4.0
Leader: MathBlade

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Creature (0):

Drixx (0):

Frozen Angel (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

hebichan (0):

Katsuki (0):

Kokichi Oma (0):

Nancy Drew 39 (0):

Nosferatu (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Sando (0):

Stungun0404 (0):

Theta Alpine(0):

the worst (0):

Toogeloo (0):

Toranaga (0):


Not Voting (17):
Creature, Drixx, Frozen Angel, Gamma Emerald, hebichan, Katsuki, Kokichi Oma, MathBlade, Nancy Drew 39, Nosferatu, Sakura Hana, Sando, stungun0404, Theta Alpine, the worst, Toogeloo, Toranaga

With
17
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9
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The day ends in (expired on 2018-08-11 21:00:00).

Nancy Drew is on V/LA for (expired on 2018-08-08 00:00:00).

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Power Echo:
Target another player. Any targeting Superpowers this player uses this Night Phase will be used on another player of your choice in addition to their original target.
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Post Post #6996 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:44 pm

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Thank god. Scum just literally saved me from leading a mislynch wagon. I had a 2000+ word writeup ready where I thought shiro was near lockscum, and i'm posting it anyway so you guys have proof that this was what i thought. And had the evidence to back it up too. I'll copy and paste it in here, so as to have proof of how much i worked on it

But I still am townblocking this crew of players: Sakura Hana, MathBlade, Toranaga, Stungun, Frozen angel (who is locktown pretty much now to me; Titus clearly attempted to brainwash her d1), and Sando. Will have to check my confidence on these players again now with a shiro townflip confirmed, but fa is without a doubt town for me.

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Took an abundance of notes over the night phase, so i will simply copy and paste to spill any thoughts and conclusions here. I believe this together with a scumflip of titus--who i tunneled hard most of last day phase-- might make up for how i had nothing coming into yesterday except for that i had isolated ankamius and found her slot to be town so i voted her for leader as she was first alphabetically among living players, and since she was town enough i decided to end my search for a leader to vote there.


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  • Toranaga is
    town
    . Toranaga vs. Titus is absolutely not
    scum
    vs.
    scum
    imo.

  • upholds this; tog at this moment must be toranaga, and titus never confirmed that when i asked who tog was. lack of follow-up conclusion (re: on alignment of toranaga after numbers flip) likely means titus didn't have any incentive to provide reasoning to clear toranaga as
    town
    . Further, ankamius had
    townblocked
    toranaga, and at eod i definitely saw
    town motive
    in some things he did.

  • So, I feel confident enough to
    townblock
    sakura hana, toranaga, mathblade, frozen angel, and sando. In addition to myself (stungun) knowing i am
    town
    , which you are free to discount if you would like. I can explain each of these cogently if need be. Feel free if after considering these other notes i took you still need further explanation on the towniness of a player.

  • FA IS CONCLUSIVELY--AGAINST ATTACK--
    TOWN
    TO ME. I
    LOCKTOWN
    READ HER NOW. This is because a). blatant brainwashing attempts by Titus regarding who she should target with power roles--suggesting she randomize them. FA very clearly did not agree to this plan, and in fact was heavily against it in a way that screams towniness for her now with a Titus
    scumflip
    . If that was
    scum
    theatre, I heavily believe both of them drop their argument there at some point, BUT they didn't. b). Titus tried to subtly pick at possibilities of fa being
    scum
    so as to try and discredit her at the start on D1, and she found out this didn't quite work and instead decided to pocket fa to try and obtain powers in a way
    scum
    titus does not do to
    scum
    fa imo. Titus even said D1 leader is always
    scum-motivated
    at one point, meaning she wouldn't have batted at suggestions of fa being
    scum
    . And c). Shiro even tried brainwashing fa by having her choose only 2 leader targets, which would clearly benefit
    scum
    , AND FA was having NONE of that. FA is
    town
    here all the way.

  • makes me think Drixx is
    town
    .

  • 713/715 with titus = strange interaction

  • zmuffinman maybe not
    scum
    . not very confident on this one though

  • 1959/1962 kinda feels like
    town
    vs.
    scum
    , so a clear point to nancydrew's credit given a titus
    scumflip
    .

  • i think
    town
    almost entirely was on the titus wagon yesterday, because
    scum
    held her as precious to their survival. this is apparent given the total unstated and stated reluctance to a titus lynch by several players. If
    scum
    had helped by bussing titus, i have absolute faith that the last day phase would not have lasted as long as it did.

  • 1965 by titus asks why tw, hebi and shiro need to be reinvestigated. maybe a
    scum
    buddy is in there?

  • 2177 may be trying to get a
    scum buddy
    townread


  • 2183: "Shiro and random are just lurkers and just tentative based on votes."
    scum buddy
    there imo, and it's definitely not random/mathblade.

  • i'm pretty sure shiro is
    scum
    . toranaga is
    town
    from what would be harmful interactions with titus on d1 if toranaga was
    scum
    with titus. additionally, i don't feel torg changes vote to creature if
    scum
    with titus and just accepts the distancing attempt at eod last day phase

  • 2195 human sequencer noted

  • 2212 = perfect post for Titus to include partner in somewhere








  • shiro is most likely
    scum
    imo.

  • titus attacks players d1 for fa as leader vote. only numbers, toranaga, shiro and cerb who is
    conftown
    voted for fa as leader.
    scum
    faction may have killed cerb to deflect attention away from fa vote wagon given scum flip of numbers and how titus had pushed it and it had been correct, and how titus knew that fa leader pick was
    scum-motivated
    = probably 2 scum exactly voted for fa as leader.

  • by proven flips and PoE, 123 is
    scum
    , torg is
    town
    , and cerb is
    town
    . So this means only shiro makes sense as
    scum
    here. this is clear given titus did not really check on the other 2 players for their votes on fa d2, meaning she really didn't have incentive to continue there because of cerb
    townflip
    . She thereby is excused to drop it after that, so she could continue to "coast" d2 by pushing a different angle with an excuse to move away from that pool of players. I think she nightkills someone else n1 and continues to promote that perspective being possible regarding the other 3 players if none of the others were
    scum
    , or at least allows
    town
    themselves to pursue that. Given she dropped it and her faction killed cerb makes me think shiro is also a
    scumpartner
    of titus.



  • Scum
    titus probably does not question
    scum
    zmuffinman on a conclusion of brassherald and nicorobin being scum together, and given both the questions are about
    townplayers
    being
    scumread
    (i know this as brassherald = ank and nicorobin =stungun = me now), this was probably an attempt to gain towncred and not have a
    scum
    partner flesh out a response, but i might be wrong here. Further, i think this means she would question
    townreads
    on
    scum
    partners, like shiro, which she did in fact question d1.

  • Supposedly, Titus states in 2032 she pushed Shiro and UFO (which she keeps referring to vaguely and i have figured out that is toranaga), but this is far from the truth. Only early mentions of shiro in her entire iso before that are in 870, where titus asked about an early
    townread
    on zmuffinman (who might be
    town
    , idk?) and specifically shiro just because "no cookies". What kind of reasoning to attach to questioning someone over their towniness is that? Titus
    scumreads
    shiro -- who similarly to her number on reads which literally says just "eat rope" in her reads list, Titus says "
    scum
    . no cookies."

  • But yet titus never stated a real reason for early
    scumread
    on shiro. Numbers also goes on to
    townread
    shiro after a few other players
    townread
    him, echoing in a sense. Titus never really engaged in anything meaningful with shiro, and apparently her stance on shiro changed after he posted a post including just a cookie. What?

  • Yet the real oddity D2 is that Titus starts out in post 2032 saying she pushed UFO and Shiro "
    A LOT
    " on day 1 when this in fact is far from the truth. Toranaga/UFO, yes. Shiro, absolutely not. What this reads like to me is Shiro was one of her more widely
    townread
    scum
    partners, and Titus wanted to give a
    scum
    partner a superpower, and so chose to
    townread
    Shiro. Shiro furthered this by going for the clear towncred option of mediumship.

  • What the interaction regarding the word a lot being used there might indicate is shiro and titus may have planned to push each other on d1 in the
    scum
    pt, but really didn't follow through with it. I think this may be the case here.

  • The power of it lies in the fact that the mediumship power gives shiro the ability to continue to look
    towny
    on the basis of his action alone. Additionally, Shiro was heavily pushing at that awkward angle of frozen angel
    scum
    last day phase, which at this point just seems like it was an effort trying to distract away from titus
    scum
    by pinning suspicion on the other leader instead when titus clearly was the
    scummier
    of the two leaders i would say without any doubt. Moreover, Shiro really pushes at the Sando mislynch wagon, hard-defending Titus in the process. And her
    confscum
    read, "coming from cerb", on me was probably because i was reading the game decently and trending in a direction that scared shiro!
    scum
    , so he wanted to see if "cerb" would be enough to get a wagon forming on me with a
    confscum
    read on me. Further, "SHIRO STILL PUSHES THE ANGLE ON ME BEING
    SCUM
    BY SAYING, MAYBE WITH FROZEN ANGEL." If this isn't far fetched and a desperate attempt of throwing possibility > probability into play to save a
    scum
    partner, then i don't know what is. This scum tell is one for one for me with a caught titus now, as i stated randomization of power roles was favoring possibility way too heavily.

  • Now, that reads as a blatant attempt to desperately promote confusion about the gamestate to me, because i don't know how town could possibly be this far off. And yet encourage another mislynch in sando. That's 3 ml's supported, including fa and i. You'd think Shiro would have
    conftown-read
    Titus the way he was pushing against it yesterday with "Cerb agreeing." i don't believe this bs at all.

  • 2459 from ank noted.

  • Nosferatu may yet be
    town
    . I've still not made a definite conclusion there. I don't think he's clear successor to titus being
    scum
    now that i have seen titus flip
    scum
    and reconsidered things. But he may still be
    scum
    .

  • Mathblade is clear
    town
    after titus flip. There's zero need for him ever to make post 2317 against
    scum
    titus if partners.
    Town
    vs.
    Scum
    , clearly.

  • 2309 scum is not
    obvtowning
    a read of a
    scum
    partner here--fa--who isn't even really under danger. reads like buddying all the way, here.

  • sando was framed last day phase, this should be clear now with titus
    scum flip
    given a); the immediate and early-on somewhat unrelenting push against sando to start the day phase following a fake cop guilty by nos called out by sakura hana, and the continuation of it as counter to titus likely served as a
    scum-encouraged
    shield to titus, whose flip would be gamebreaking. And B). The last vote ankamius made while alive in this game was on Sando, and I think if Sando AND Titus were
    scum
    together, then it would be screwing their faction as a whole to make this kill (risks i feel outweigh rewards) and given the overall reluctance to a Titus lynch, I don't think they would want to put another partner under fire as well. Too much turbulence from an ank kill afflicts both Sando and Titus too much for that
    scum
    team to advocate that kill, given they are both quite experienced. This holds unless you think I am
    scum
    with Titus and Sando. That's up to you to decide. I have more defending that team not being plausible, but will only defend it if necessary.

  • That serious push against Sando looks to have a sketchier motive after a Titus
    scum
    flip. I will go back and look at who pushed against Sando there, or encouraged that push to continue without laying a vote down.

  • Next, both the amount of stated and unstated resistance to the titus lynch and high number of decently supported counterwagons directly proves that
    scum
    held the titus chip as a centerpiece that was particularly important to their faction's survival. Which suggests by consequence it has that game-breaking potential.

  • Now, Toog stated highest confidence
    townread
    on now
    confscum
    Titus. And defended it pretty hard. He promised to reread, and I will give him his chance there. Idk how the numbers flip made titus
    towniest
    though in his impression. But clearly now I proved my impression of the bad
    townreads
    on Titus and the fact that
    scum
    very likely picked optimal distancing spots and positioning on the numbers wagon to be true. So, if
    town
    , toog should be a lot more careful there. The whole body of work of Titus was definitely
    scummier
    than it was
    towny
    , to the extent where looking at it and examining the evidence that lead to us lynching her makes it difficult to defend titus as
    town
    .

  • And unfortunately i switched off titus lynchwagon to creature for a short time period. I blame lack of sleep (got two hours the night before), and the distracting temptation of a creature pressure wagon. i, however, still wanted titus lynched primarily and would have stayed focused there if i was not either distracted by the creature wagon or if i had gotten more sleep and been able to recognize why exactly i was pushing titus. it seems i dropped everything with that one distraction in an instant, but at least i switched right back realizing my mistake after hebichan (thank you!) questioned me. And also i may have cracked a little to the pressure of having the titus
    scumflip
    ride entirely on me being correct (some votes sheeped me and i've never felt that kind of pressure before); i felt there was a lot of weight being given to my push and i had some very slight inklings of doubt at various stages. Overall, though i will stand by my creature vote and own it like a man.

  • Toog's defense of titus was sketchy, though, because it seemed entirely based off quick analysis of numbers lynch wagon. That is the easiest place for a
    scum
    player to begin analyzing the game, so Toog might be
    scum
    . And he criticizes my analyzing methods consistently because why? Given I correctly got a
    scumflip
    d1, maybe drop that today.

  • Toog completely neglected myloninja
    town
    wagon. Por que?
    Town
    wagon reasoning can be more telling IMO than
    scum
    wagon reasoning, on the surface, unless a player is clearly not
    scum
    based on sustained interactions that would be clearly
    scum
    suicide if two players were
    scum
    together. There was nothing
    scum
    suicide about titus vs. numbers. In fact, it did not even read natural to me, and my suspicion there has now proven correct. So idk out of all players on the numbers vote wagon, you had the highest confidence on titus being
    town
    and argued my
    scumread
    of Titus was "painting picassos", and how you continually stuck up for titus. IDK how you concluded Titus to be
    towniest
    , but clearly that was faulty.

  • But right now i think toog is likelier to flip
    town
    than shiro, but both could be
    scum
    together imo. Maybe even with creature, or even tw.


  • Shiro stated
    townread
    from cerb on toogeloo for something that did not look
    town-indicative
    to me at all, i remember, which was strange. I don't think anyone else iirc tr toogeloo off that evidence or anything else, which is even stranger. I think if it genuinely came from cerb, people would clearly sense that. But this does not seem real.

  • I'm feeling a numbers-titus-shiro-creature-toogeloo
    scum
    team as a real possibility right now. Only after the titus flip did this entire connection make sense to me.

  • Scum
    really didn't want a titus lynch, so i'm thinking (along with some slightly suss interactions with human sequencer and flipped
    scum
    and creature's growing lurkiness) that
    scum
    might have helped pile on a
    scum
    buddy who is MIA last minute in an effort to distract away from and avoid a titus lynch. Titus may have collapsed in the waning hours and self-voted due to another
    scum
    buddy being the clear counterwagon with only hours left in the day phase. Titus ran as main counterwagon to flipped
    scum
    in numbers anyway on D1, so why not do that again with 1 less
    scumplayer
    remaining in the game?






  • Now another thing that concerns me about shiro is why wouldn't
    town
    shiro detect and call into question the fact that titus switched from "
    scum
    " on D1 read of her to "
    town
    " read to her over literally nothing on D2 (when Titus was leader), and instead assess it as a possible pocketing attempt given how drastic and quickly formed the change was and that there wasn't like any posts or any sort of reasoning provided in the ISO of titus in between to account for the "
    town
    " read of shiro. And then titus gives a power to shiro? After being
    scum read
    by titus on D1. Why not at least question the change in her stance, even if her
    scum
    reasoning was jocular? That is hella sketchy to me. Oh, and ANKAMIUS had shiro in her sketchy section with Titus. Hmm, I wonder why. Shiro could have "confirmed" Ankamius as telling the truth about Titus, especially IF TITUS SURVIVED ANOTHER DAY and Shiro "CLEARED" titus. Clear
    scum
    gambit to me to
    townread
    the ever-living hell out of titus as a last-ditch effort to protect against her lynch, using cerb to advance it, and insist on Titus not getting lynched so heavily when instead you should have questioned the blatant discrepancy in reads of Titus between D1 and D2 on you with like no reason or further explanation attributed to it. Way to work a
    scum
    partner into your PR zone, Titus!

  • Scum
    partner likely took place of ank--who was nk'd--in pr zone. This is an absolute given if shiro is
    scum
    with titus, as you would not nk someone and give them a power.

  • Also, only 2 players getting powers--pushing that through cerb is ridiculously short-sighted and not something
    town
    would advocate like ever. So don't act like he did. FA's reaction to this was
    town
    as hell, and YOU KNOW IT. And yet you call me out for it because you don't want to admit it. For you to soon after throw out a
    confscum
    read on me through "Cerb" is so nutso to believe this stance is coming from
    town
    "Cerb". I would reckon he'd be more cautious with
    confscum
    reads than that.

  • I literally did not even have a
    confscum
    read on Titus myself last day phase nor did anyone ever state a
    confscum
    read on anyone, so WTF IS "CERB'S" SUPPOSED CONFIDENCE ABOUT? What utter bullshit to try and force a
    town
    mislynch on me and thus save Titus. You basically had a
    conftown
    read on Titus, though you didn't explicitly state it, and wouldn't back up what game it was in when i asked you about when Titus had a poor vca as
    town
    (and some of your meta is hard to understand when i looked into it to try to confirn this myself in that you have played in weird anime games where you posted in but never assumed your actual account here and who was who was never stated anywhere; what a mindfuck). And supposedly cerb remembers this too? My ass; no other player in this game attested to that off memory. You wanted to try and prove Titus was
    town
    to solidify the chances of your faction making it further into the game by spirit mediuming ank to confirm power. How is this
    towny
    at all? I can't see the degree of this confidence push coming from
    town
    here.

  • 937 from numbers looks like a faked reaction to me, and thus would support HS-
    scum
    , and thus the creature slot being
    scum
    . That and creature's iso is not that focused on playing
    towny
    . He didn't even have a vote down at EoD last day phase, so I suggest he is next push after Shiro.

  • Both flipped
    scum
    had heavy and consistent regard for zmuffinman
    town
    . This might mean he is in fact
    town
    . Titus had stated a
    townread
    on sakura, who is pretty much
    locktown
    at this point.

  • Shiro was also
    town
    from the reads list of numbers--the other flipped
    scum
    --without any reasoning ever stated for why. Just simply followed the flow there, after toranaga and others stated shiro was
    likely town
    d1.

  • Also shiro blatantly was not getting all that information from cerb at the same time he posted it, as i brought attention to the fact that cerb was not even online, and yet shiro dished out a spamfest of information from him to distract away from a titus lynch. You should read this as utter distraction and not being anything else but that.


VOTE: Shiro, who is a very heavy scumread for me, but i do encourage this day phase to last at least 3-4 days.

TLDR; Shiro is the closest thing to lockscum for me. Nasty associatives with both flipped scum and a blatant spree of lies to save Titus last day phase (Cerb confscum reading me and scumreading Frozen Angel). I don't believe either of those pushes. I am more confident about Shiro being scum than I was about Titus last day phase. I can't see Shiro ever flipping town this game.

We should definitely lynch Shiro today. The scum team of numbers-titus-shiro might include possible additions of Creature, Toogeloo, TW, Kokichi, or Nos (although nos looks a little better to me now), and a few others to varying degrees. But mainly i am thinking creature and toogeloo are the other two that solve this game.

I'm also townblocking all of Frozen Angel, Toranaga, Mathblade, Sakura Hana, Sando, and Stungun. As long as we stick together here, and we continue to townblock cleverly outwards, we're a force to be reckoned with. :up:

The townblock i created includes all 3 of the other players ank townblocked and i agree fully on now, and then sando and sakura added to the pool.

High degree of resistance, both unstated and expressed, to Titus lynchwagon suggests there is quite a bit of town on that wagon, for if scum bussed or lots of them followed on then securing that lynch should have been way easier.

Drixx is looking townish to me now, so maybe future addition to townblock? Idk.












The TLDR TLDR: Shiro is almost positively scum, and we are best off lynching her today.










Another pretty damning point. Shiro has been heavily active, but where the hell was she when we were organizing our votes last day phase. She never committed with us.
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Post Post #6997 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:45 pm

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Hi
Forgot to vote

VOTE: Creature

kinda vibing FA/Theta never scum with Titus here

I think Titus should also spew Sando town?? but that feels kinda funny
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #6998 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:46 pm

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lmao yeah I was gonna open with a Shiro vote as well.
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Post Post #6999 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:47 pm

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Shiro was baiting the mislynch to avoid getting killed I think.

VOTE: the worst

Add "the worst doesn't forget to vote for leader N1" to previous case.

Titus got elected by scum and then they "missed deadline" to hide the vote, seems fairly obvious.
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