NY 213 - Game Over!

[Ircher]

Day 5 VC #13

Golden Robster (1) - Gamma Emerald (5631)
Krazy (0) -
Gamma Emerald (1) - Myloninja13 (5394)
Tchill13 (1) - Krazy (5683)
JarJarDrinks (0) -

TehBrawlGuy (7) (L-2) - Tchill13 (5174), Golden Robster (5311), Kublai Khan (5520), Wavemode (5579), Ankamius (5693), Scioness Sajj (5680), Texcat (5689)

Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (0) -
Myloninja13 (0) -

Scioness Sajj (6) (L-3) - Creature (5577), Skygazer (5640), Hopkirk (5648), Vaxkiller (5649), TehBrawlGuy (5653), JarJarDrinks (5692)

Not Voting (0) -

Lynch Threshold

During day 5, it takes 9 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 5 ends on August 8, 2018 8:45 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-08 20:45:00).

Moderator Notes

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
Moderator is V/LA from August 10 to August 21. (Hopefully I'll be around during that time, but if not, I'm sure Not Known 15 will cover for me.)
Scioness Sajj is V/LA until August 6.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Golden Robster: TehBrawlGuy (5311)
Krazy: Gamma Emerald (5115) --> Tchill13 (5683)
Creature: Gamma Emerald (5397) --> Scioness Sajj (5577)
Kublai Khan: Wavemode (5305) --> TehBrawlGuy (5520)
Hopkirk: Krazy (5265) --> Scioness Sajj (5648)
Gamma Emerald: Golden Robster (5631)
Tchill13: Vaxkiller (5135) --> TehBrawlGuy (5139) ==> TehBrawlGuy (5174)
Skygazer: Wavemode (5439) --> (Null) (5480) --> Scioness Sajj (5640)
JarJarDrinks: TehBrawlGuy (5422) --> Scioness Sajj (5692)
Ankamius: Wavemode (5168) --> TehBrawlGuy (5643) ==> TehBrawlGuy (5693)
Texcat: TehBrawlGuy (5689)
TehBrawlGuy: JarJarDrinks (5126) --> Wavemode (5373) --> Scioness Sajj (5653)
Vaxkiller: Krazy (5118) --> Gamma Emerald (5121) --> Scioness Sajj (5649)
Wavemode: Krazy (5263) --> TehBrawlGuy (5579)
Myloninja13: Gamma Emerald (5394)
Scioness Sajj: Gamma Emerald (5309) --> (Null) (5633) --> Myloninja13 (5642) --> TehBrawlGuy (5680)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 4

* - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral

(1): Texcat (4670)
Golden Robster (2): Scioness Sajj (4681) -->

Dunnstral

(5019)
Krazy (3): Texcat (4669) --> Gamma Emerald (4859) -->

Dunnstral

(5104*)
Creature (3): Scioness Sajj (4665) --> Texcat (4745) -->

Dunnstral

(4817)
Hopkirk (5): Scioness Sajj (4672) --> (Null) (4848) --> Scioness Sajj (4857) --> Vaxkiller (4992) --> Golden Robster (5062)
Gamma Emerald (1):

Dunnstral

(4847)
Tchill13 (6): Scioness Sajj (4707) -->

Dunnstral

(4822) --> Scioness Sajj (4863) -->

Dunnstral

(4988) --> (Null) (5064) --> TehBrawlGuy (5102)
Skygazer (4): Scioness Sajj (4717) --> Texcat (4888) --> (Null) (4894) -->

Dunnstral

(4973)
JarJarDrinks (2): Scioness Sajj (4674) -->

Dunnstral

(4815)
Ankamius (3): Tchill13 (4756) --> Texcat (5002) --> Krazy (5049)
Texcat (1):

Dunnstral

(4829)
TehBrawlGuy (1): Texcat (4710)
Vaxkiller (1): Scioness Sajj (4721)
Wavemode (2): Scioness Sajj (4854) -->

Dunnstral

(5071)

PenguinPower

(2): Scioness Sajj (4713) -->

Dunnstral

(4819)
Myloninja13 (3):

Dunnstral

(4837) --> Gamma Emerald (4965) -->

Dunnstral

(5059)
Scioness Sajj (2): Texcat (4675) --> (Null) (4895)

Day 3

* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral

(2): Myloninja13 (3463) --> Texcat (4162)
Golden Robster (3):

Dunnstral

(3559) --> TehBrawlGuy (4208) --> Creature (4255)
Pine (0):
Krazy (3):

Dunnstral

(3978) --> Texcat (4161) --> Gamma Emerald (4392)
Creature (8): Texcat (3472) -->

Lalendra

(3681) --> Texcat (3744) --> Myloninja13 (4013) --> Texcat (4165) -->

Lalendra

(4213) --> Kublai Khan (4260) -->

Lalendra

(4284)
Kublai Khan (7): Creature (3511) -->

Lalendra

(4033) --> TehBrawlGuy (4184) --> Creature (4240) -->

Lalendra

(4308) --> Gamma Emerald (4416) -->

Lalendra

(4557)
Hopkirk (3):

Lalendra

(3661) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4339)
Gamma Emerald (3):

Lalendra

(3913) --> (Null) (3954) --> Myloninja13 (4073)

Ausuka

(4): Myloninja13 (3640) -->

Lalendra

(3677) --> Myloninja13 (4010) -->

Lalendra

(4286)

Lalendra

(3): TehBrawlGuy (3719) --> Myloninja13 (4130) --> Creature (4384)
Tchill13 (3):

Lalendra

(3690) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4215)
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):

Lalendra

(4564)
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) -->

Lalendra

(3695) -->

Dunnstral

(3704) -->

Lalendra

(3721)
Ankamius (3):

Lalendra

(3801) --> (Null) (4044) --> Creature (4239)
Texcat (1): Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks (3466) --> Texcat (3790) --> Creature (4245) --> Gamma Emerald (4421)
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan (4004) --> Myloninja13 (4214) -->

Lalendra

(4220)
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy (3468) -->

Lalendra

(3716) --> _{Ankamius (4600^)}

PenguinPower

(3): Texcat (3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) -->

Lalendra

(3678)
Myloninja13 (2):

Dunnstral

(3765) --> Creature (4252)
Scioness Sajj (3): Texcat (3756) --> Creature (4338) -->

Lalendra

(4577*)

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral

(4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) -->

PenguinPower

(3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) -->

PenguinPower

(2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) -->

PenguinPower

(2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) -->

PenguinPower

(2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) -->

PenguinPower

(2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) -->

PenguinPower

(2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) -->

PenguinPower

(2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7):

PenguinPower

(1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)

Lalendra

(7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) -->

PenguinPower

(2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1):

PenguinPower

(1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) -->

PenguinPower

(3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) -->

PenguinPower

(3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)

PenguinPower

(7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1):

PenguinPower

(2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) -->

PenguinPower

(3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) -->

PenguinPower

(2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral

(5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) -->

Lalendra

(1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) -->

TheRampage

(909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) -->

TheRampage

(813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3):

Lalendra

(234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) -->

Lalendra

(279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) -->

TheRampage

(743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) -->

Lalendra

(1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)

Lalendra

(3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) -->

TheRampage

(771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) -->

TheRampage

(223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) -->

TheRampage

(1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)

TheRampage

(3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)

PenguinPower

(1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral

(2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Ircher]

Prodding Myloninja13 (2d 13h). He has (expired on 2018-08-07 13:13:50) to respond in-thread.

[JarJarDrinks]

lol

not claiming before intent

hmm, where have we heard this before ?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: JarjarDrinks
Yeah I think this is shady enough
I was asking you about your reasons TBG to see if you had anything about his voting patterns, and while it wasn't as much of a smoking gun as I hoped I did see some stuff about it that made me feel like it was a good vote

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: Scioness Sajj

Ank sorry but you missed it
Also this makes me not very pleased with JJD

What is it that you don't like? The fact that I'm actually using my vote on people that have a chance to be lynched instead of pissing it away on a vanity wagon like u are?

[Ankamius]

pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Scioness Sajj

Ank sorry but you missed it
Also this makes me not very pleased with JJD

What is it that you don't like? The fact that I'm actually using my vote on people that have a chance to be lynched instead of pissing it away on a vanity wagon like u are?

The fact that THE SECOND a claim is generated you hop off? If it were PR I wouldn't be like this, but this means your vote has no conviction and most likely you're just baiting claims here. That's a scum agenda.

[JarJarDrinks]

Spoiler:

What's shitty about my vote on Mylo? He did 180 on me, with no reasoning given. Which actually points back to... Gamma(?) idk what wagons where happening back then.

tbg more so actually, well that suits me

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

Spoiler:

VOTE: sajj

is this forced? or can you expand on why SS is scum?

this is me voting the not-me wagon out of survivalism. I'm pretty donezo explaining shit.

I dislike that SS felt like he needed to come up with a reason to scumread TBG.

TBGs just stating matter of factly that he's voting cuz he has to seems more realz to me

[Scioness Sajj]

lol

not claiming before intent

hmm, where have we heard this before ?

not from me since i have ignored you d4

[TehBrawlGuy]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

[Scioness Sajj]

Spoiler:

What's shitty about my vote on Mylo? He did 180 on me, with no reasoning given. Which actually points back to... Gamma(?) idk what wagons where happening back then.

tbg more so actually, well that suits me

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

Spoiler:

VOTE: sajj

is this forced? or can you expand on why SS is scum?

this is me voting the not-me wagon out of survivalism. I'm pretty donezo explaining shit.

I dislike that SS felt like he needed to come up with a reason to scumread TBG.

TBGs just stating matter of factly that he's voting cuz he has to seems more realz to me

sorry didn't know that beside not being allowed to vote wagons i'm actually scumreading i shouldn't share my thoughts
my bad won't happen again

[JarJarDrinks]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

Uh cuz I still scumread you. I just happened to like how u countervoted a helluva lot better than how SS did.

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: Scioness Sajj

Ank sorry but you missed it
Also this makes me not very pleased with JJD

What is it that you don't like? The fact that I'm actually using my vote on people that have a chance to be lynched instead of pissing it away on a vanity wagon like u are?

The fact that THE SECOND a claim is generated you hop off? If it were PR I wouldn't be like this, but this means your vote has no conviction and most likely you're just baiting claims here. That's a scum agenda.

Yes I was most definitely waiting for the claim before jumping off. I wanted to see what TBG was gonna claim. I like informations

[Ankamius]

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

[Scioness Sajj]

VOTE: jjd

[JarJarDrinks]

we have two day and, good news, there has to be scum on leading wagons (regardless of flips) so flip one of us and tomorrow start looking from there.

MmmmHmmm.

[Scioness Sajj]

no clue what your problem is with that post

guess you don't know either?

[JarJarDrinks]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

@TBG, if u are town then think for a second:

Why as scum would I unvote you here? Is it really that important for me to get a claim from SS that I'm gonna throw away a mislynch at L-1? Cmon man.

[TehBrawlGuy]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

@TBG, if u are town then think for a second:

Why as scum would I unvote ... at L-1?

there's something poetic about you asking me this



But honestly, if Sajj and I are both Town, I think you probably feel like it doesn't matter who goes down, and getting both claims is good for you. We have essentially no strong Night PRs outed so, I could absolutely see that coming from a bold Scum player, which is pretty much exactly what I peg you as. Based on Wheme's universal backup flip, Scum clearly have multiple PRs, so I'd wager Town has at least a few left hidden. If one of those Scum PRs is Rolecop, forcing a claim is actually huge, because your pool of candidates for PRs must be very small.

[JarJarDrinks]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

@TBG, if u are town then think for a second:

Why as scum would I unvote ... at L-1?

there's something poetic about you asking me this

Well I certainly didn't have a problem when u did it. I think keeping out of hammers length is generally good play.

[TehBrawlGuy]

huh, I swore I remembered you giving me crap for it, but sure enough, I checked your iso and you're right, you said the same thing then

[Krazy]

I have this sneaking suspicion that scum is controlling this game. Perhaps it's just my bad gut. The one advantage that town has over scum is numbers. And we give up that advantage when so many players are not playing.

Yesterday when we started consolidating wagons, it looked like it was going to be either Performer or Wavemode. And then it actually ended up being Performer and Android. And today, it looked like it was going to be Penguin and Robster, but now it's looking like Penguin and Wheme. Based on this alone, I'd say Wavemode and Robster are likely scum.

VOTE: TBG

L-1

OK I guess we're not going to talk about how TC with 0 stated suspicions of TBG that is paranoid about scum powergaming is going to naked vote him to L-1.

Sure guys, have fun with your JJD wagon.

Vote Texcat

[wavemode]

village is actively trying to lose, what else is new

[Golden Robster]

VOTE: JarjarDrinks
Yeah I think this is shady enough
I was asking you about your reasons TBG to see if you had anything about his voting patterns, and while it wasn't as much of a smoking gun as I hoped I did see some stuff about it that made me feel like it was a good vote

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

VOTE: jjd

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

[Golden Robster]

I didn't say it would be more likely from a newb? That's plain taking my post out of context. I said I'd expect the bad method from a newb since they wouldn't even have practice with a real guilty most likely.
Throwing shit at a wall means you're just trying things and seeing what works. That's a common idiom in English, at least around here, you should know that.

you still haven't explained why these methods are coming from scum rather than town LET ALONE explain what your argument is