SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Punreader]

So the worst had already been targeted by it once. I find it odd that guac would target you twice with his ability.

The thing is, this is the second time both the worst and I have been targeted by this ability, albeit with different targets. the worst had Taly; I had Dunnstral.

Punreader, please clarify further -- did you receive this the beginning of D4 or D5? The date you gave (July 7) doesn't match either one.
I connected punreader and

Maria

N3

.

There is nothing left to clarify.
On Saturday, July 7th, I was informed I was connected to Dunnstral.

At the beginning of day five (which was Friday, August 3rd), I was informed I was connected to the worst.

[Punreader]

The people connected by Screenplay were the worst and Taly.

Interestingly.

Taly got this result; the worst got this result; there is zero question that this role action went through as intended, on N1.

The problem I face is this:

Nahdia

Welcome, Taly.

Passive: Scheherazade

(

People come from near and far to listen to your tales of Sweet Zor and Hella Accountant.

) -- Anyone who visits you on odd-numbered nights will have all of their actions delayed until the next night. They will still be able to act the next night.

By my understanding of Taly's role, Taly

shouldn't

have been connected with the worst, because of the delayed nature of Taly's role.

Somehow, they were thus connected during a time they should not have been connected.

[Punreader]

Just caved and checked my own decision, I used pun and Dunn. Probably because they rhymed.

Also, guacamole, how do you explain you saying your slot connected me and MariaR (a result we don't have), when your predecessor claimed you connected me and Dunnstral (a result we DID have)?

[guacamole]

Confirm that N2 MWNN submitted Pun & Dunn.

[Krazy]

So you are an everynight connector. Why would you not connect every night?

Trying this on for size.

Vote Guacamole

[Shoshin]

Who can Pun kill of living players?

[the worst]

1 krazy
2 me
7 shosh
8 dv
9 espe

12 pun

13 guac
15 vaxk

[the worst]

I guess I can check guac or espe to see if our figures are off? but like no one seems to have lied about rankings so I don't feel very useful

[Shoshin]

Let's have Pun shoot Guac, then?

[the worst]

that's probably the best bet.

[the worst]

I have a bit of a conspiracy theory that's making me anxious.

[Shoshin]

What's the theory?

[the worst]

Nvm. I thought wincon suggested the existence of a third party, but just dived EP and they use TP-ambiguous wincons regardless of the actual presence of a TP.

[the worst]

so like originally I was worried the kitties were some kind of arsonistesque third party thing but I'm kinda realising if there's a third party killing role it'd be pun and they'd be a serial killer. and like I said mechanically pun is probably just actually a vig here

[the worst]

back from the moon. sorry for this intermission.

[guacamole]

shooting town is a bad idea.

[the worst]

well this is weird. I think Shosh Pun Espe and Vaxk are town. I'm starting to get really cold feet on my Guacslot read and I'm not sure if it's because Shosh has twisted my arm or I'm actually really doubting MWNN had enough readable content. If it's a town slot I'm gonna feel so stupid

DV...doesn't feel like mafia who's a couple of lynches anyway from a win somehow? like his level of enthusiasm has waned way too hard way too late and that's messing with my head. I kinda wanna say I don't think he's scum with a partner but that's a really stretchy read. Also just gonna throw in that if anyone is fakeclaiming here or concealing elements of their role it's almost 100% DV.

Krazy's night actions kinda add up now. I'm spun out because I townread the fuck out of Chara and a couple of its early reads would be like.. Phenomenally difficult to fake. at the same time it turns out I've hugely underestimated its scumgame based on some more recent experience and reading so I'm realising really quickly how easily wrong I could be on this read...

in a game with so many night actions I'm also just tryna parse whether two conditional scum roleblockers or one conditional scum roleblocker and one town roleblocker is a more likely situation


I'm gonna take a bit of time to process this and think through some stuff.

[Krazy]

Can you expand on why you think Shoshin is town? What do you make of Pun's theory?

[Krazy]

Also, I don't know how weird this question is, but what type of cat did you get before you did not receive a cat? Or can you not say since now you didn't receive it?

Who else got cats again? Did they ever say what type of cat they got?

DV do you get to choose the cat type?

[the worst]

it feels kinda breach of good faithy discussing this in a lot of detail but it seems like a generic message for everyone who receives the cat. Shoshin town cases herself pretty well here. I don't have a lot of time to detail it but I think I have an accidental habit of reading malice into her playstyle and honestly gamestate kinda strongly suggests she's more likely to be town here.

It's difficult to explain but she and I just finished a game where I went from scumreading her to correctly townreading her in what we didn't know was LyLo. I'm starting to get really similar pings here that I got there.

scum!Shoshin is also I think kinda spiritually different to this. She can emulate the enquisitiveness pretty well but seriously lacks the

p r e s e n c e

that town!Shosh has


Sorry it's hard to detail via phoneposting.

[DeasVail]

I will be here within the next hour!

Also my lack of enthusiasm is probably NAI because I’ve just been super busy but I have some free time this arvo which is nice!

[Krazy]

Shoshin, what type of cat did you receive N2?

DV, why did you not send a cat N1?

[Krazy]

I find it weird that two every-night visitors would both skip N1, and that Guac would skip both N1 and N4. I just don't see how a town-aligned connector doesn't use his ability every night. And I have 0 clues as to why a town-aligned DV would not send a cat N1. In what world does a cat fruit vendor not vend cat fruit N1?

[Krazy]

Like the whole point of fruit vendor would be to demonstrate tracker sanity. So not vending cat fruit would be lowkey gamethrowing... if you're aligned with the town.

[DeasVail]

DV, why did you not send a cat N1?

okay