Open 731: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[Wh4t]

[Poseidon]

Good catch. There's no substance to back up his actual vote aside from "fluff". And the account is too old to be n00b. Got any other references besides the slight backtrack?

[Wh4t]

I think A50 makes good points but it is the sort of policy case that can easily be pushed by scum.

I feel the same way about A50's case on me. BuJaber seems sufficiently paranoid to be likely town.

So are you calling A50 mechanical? And is that the towny, scummy, or neither?? Just asking to see your pinion on A50

Unclear yet. I can't determine his intentions based on just this because like I said it is NAI. When he posts more and we get an idea what his motivation is we'll know if it's genuine or not.

I'm interested in following your read on him later as he's a decent scumspect, although I find it tricky to read him this game as this wouldn't be the first time A50 has tunneled someone over semantics as town.

A lot of Eragon's posts contain only fluff. (35, 60, 62) I don't like it. VOTE: Eragon

FOS: Inferno. I don't like how much time he spends defending himself and how little scumhunting he does.

Agree on most posts but 54 feels kind townie. What are your thoughts on it?

I feel like the openess to a read on Eragon is pretty townie from BuJaber here, disagree that fluff posting is a scum crime though. I also like how he probes others for their opinion in what looks like a way to get a read on the questionee.

[Wh4t]

Because I find it’s a good way to get out of RVS. Helps me judge interactions and gather info. It hasn’t failed me yet, and I doubt it will start now.
Egg is scum now btw.
VOTE: Egg

I was reffering to you making guesses on roles. Thats almost always proscum behavior, I'm not gonna push you for it tho.

Do you not have any scum reads yet? If not, why no vote on Inferno?

Yuck Manatee looks like scum from the embedded quote alone. I'm liking egg for town even if he's wrong about my slot.

[Wh4t]

>votes
>says "p.sure this is villa"
If you think someone is villa then why pressure them?

I think this is insightful enough to lump you in the townreads. It's a push on Manatee too so they are not w/w.

[Poseidon]

A lot of Eragon's posts contain only fluff. (35, 60, 62) I don't like it. VOTE: Eragon

FOS: Inferno. I don't like how much time he spends defending himself and how little scumhunting he does.

Agree on most posts but 54 feels kind townie. What are your thoughts on it?

Eragon's wall feels townie btw. He sticks his head out and gives us something to discuss.

I don't like how Burger put Inferno at L-1 and is fine with quicklynching him. Yes, inferno's behaviour has been consistent but I doubt this is a scum tell. In 58 Burger says he wants to hear more from poseidon and me before he puts inferno at L-1. Poseidon posts hardly anything 76 and I post very little. Then he just puts inferno at L-1. In 58 he said he feels uneasy quicklynching. But I don't recognize any uneasiness in 130 .

I also don't like 97. It contains a lot of speculation and focuses on one single interaction between manatee and inferno. Imho it's WIFOM. In addition to that I don't understand why he looks at manatee's meta but not at inferno's 98. Other people mentioned the possibility of inferno being lynchbait. Burger just excludes this possibility. 114 I cannot follow his thought process.

To conclude, I think Burger might be scum due to his inconsistent behaviour.
VOTE: GameNBurger

I'm gonna give BOTD to the first post as a pressure-vote, but then we continue onward to more flip-flopping. And then calling someone else inconsistent?
That said, I'm still very sus of your slot @

Wh4t

due to Inferno's behavior.

[Wh4t]

After quickly skimming ISOs my reads are:

{BuJaber, Egg, Eragon, GameNBurger, Poseidon}
{A50}
{Manatee, Fromage}

GNB's long posts made me lazy so I haven't given transparency on that read or on poseidon, however I will do so on request at a later time if it helps you all to read me.

Would the majority still like me to claim?

[Poseidon]

After quickly skimming ISOs my reads are:

{BuJaber, Egg, Eragon, GameNBurger, Poseidon}
{A50}
{Manatee, Fromage}

GNB's long posts made me lazy so I haven't given transparency on that read or on poseidon, however I will do so on request at a later time if it helps you all to read me.

Would the majority still like me to claim?

Is your tier system
town
neutral
scum
?

And you're welcome to claim if you want but it seems the pressure has backed off a bit as far as majority goes

[Wh4t]

That said, I'm still very sus of your slot @Wh4t due to Inferno's behavior.

That's fine, A50 can be very convincing and I'm not saying the reasons are complete rubbish however I cannot undo what my predecessor has done or speak on his behalf. I will say that before I replace into a game, that I skim the relevant ISO before replacing in as I'm a terrible scum player. Inferno's frustration and stubbornness read town to me and I was right so XD

Pedit: Yes that's the correct order. I will hold off on claiming unless necessary as it would be anti-town to claim early imo.

[Wh4t]

Votecount 1.6

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

Wh4t

(2): ManateeDude, Poseidon

ManateeDude

(3): Eragon, Egg, BuJaber

GameNBurger

(3): Wh4t, Fromage, Almost50

Not Voting

(1): GameNBurger

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-08-14 08:00:00)

I'll move my vote to VOTE: Fromage but I'd happily move to Manatee once Toranaga confirms he's scum.

[Toranaga]

Inferno390 is being replaced.

Toranaga, ManateeDude's replacement, hasn't picked up his Role PM. He has (expired on 2018-08-08 05:00:00) to confirm his Role PM, or else the slot will be replaced by someone else in his stead.

weeeeeeeeeeee

[Toranaga]

I missed this part of it and looks like my posts itg got deleted because of it

sorry mod sucks to suck

[Toranaga]

lowkey just posting here cause wh4t is playing

[Toranaga]

Votecount 1.6

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

Wh4t

(2): ManateeDude, Poseidon

ManateeDude

(3): Eragon, Egg, BuJaber

GameNBurger

(3): Wh4t, Fromage, Almost50

Not Voting

(1): GameNBurger

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-08-14 08:00:00)

I'll move my vote to VOTE: Fromage but I'd happily move to Manatee once Toranaga confirms he's scum.

you're the devil

in before you're the one who replaced into a mafia slot

[Wh4t]

Scummoned.

Tor would you mind repeating what the mod deleted please?

[Toranaga]

Scummoned.

Tor would you mind repeating what the mod deleted please?

I made no reads and called the setup incredibly townsided to the point of it being almost broken

you get 2 PRs and possible guilties on mafia. as long as you don't get possible false clears as actual clears you're fine. no open 9er should have 2 investigative town roles, that's silly.

and I know I lost one of those already as town but still

[Toranaga]

wh4t why are you voting fromage? I just ISO'd him and don't see what's scummy about it

[Toranaga]

I don't like how Burger put Inferno at L-1 and is fine with quicklynching him. Yes, inferno's behaviour has been consistent but I doubt this is a scum tell. In 58 Burger says he wants to hear more from poseidon and me before he puts inferno at L-1. Poseidon posts hardly anything 76 and I post very little. Then he just puts inferno at L-1. In 58 he said he feels uneasy quicklynching. But I don't recognize any uneasiness in 130 .

I also don't like 97. It contains a lot of speculation and focuses on one single interaction between manatee and inferno. Imho it's WIFOM. In addition to that I don't understand why he looks at manatee's meta but not at inferno's 98. Other people mentioned the possibility of inferno being lynchbait. Burger just excludes this possibility. 114 I cannot follow his thought process.

To conclude, I think Burger might be scum due to his inconsistent behaviour.
VOTE: GameNBurger

[Toranaga]

and this is who you're voting?

[Wh4t]

you get 2 PRs and possible guilties on mafia.

Don't you mean "we?"

I believe you just scum slipped.

VOTE: Toranaga L-1.

[Toranaga]

in the context where you're actually inferno, that feels pretty bad

you have to realise that's town motivated posting, yes?

[Toranaga]

you get 2 PRs and possible guilties on mafia.

Don't you mean "we?"

I believe you just scum slipped.

VOTE: Toranaga L-1.

no, I mean "you"

it's just a way to phrase things

[Toranaga]

gamenburger doing metadives in a 9er isn't something I expect from scum

[Wh4t]

in the context where you're actually inferno, that feels pretty bad

you have to realise that's town motivated posting, yes?

A single post doesn't determine alignment. You'll notice he was pushed off his initial victim (Eragon) when his reasons were challenged, so sure he would try better with the next reasoning. A50 weakened my slot's position so the move onto me wasn't any less opportunistic than scumreading someone for fluff posting.

What do you think of poseidons thoughts about him?

[Toranaga]

in the context where you're actually inferno, that feels pretty bad

you have to realise that's town motivated posting, yes?

A single post doesn't determine alignment. You'll notice he was pushed off his initial victim (Eragon) when his reasons were challenged, so sure he would try better with the next reasoning. A50 weakened my slot's position so the move onto me wasn't any less opportunistic than scumreading someone for fluff posting.

What do you think of poseidons thoughts about him?

I didn't read anyone else's thoughts on that dude

didn't you replace into this yesterday? why are you posting so very little here?