Open 731: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[Wh4t]

It explains the terrible vote Burger made when tor was at L-1. How do you even go vote then /unvote accidentally?

[Poseidon]

@BuJab

If he flips town, you’re up tomorrow.

VOTE: Toranaga

[Poseidon]

L-1

[Wh4t]

When I first came into this game I gut scumread A50 and Tor. If it's both of them I'd be very sad for not wanting to follow my gut there. Not sure why Tor keeps pushing for an A50 lynch? He did so EOD and now, so it seems like unnecessary distancing. Not sure Tor spews Burger town here too, although he said the same thing about fromage so *shrug*

Im really sad. I will let you nonfools solve the game.

[Poseidon]

Don’t hammer yet, anyone (sorry for multipost). Still time to discuss

[BuJaber]

I'm happy assuming A50 is town just don't completely locktown him.

If he were more stubborn we would have lynched tora yesterday. There's a chance they're buddies. And the whole setup talk looks townie but that's it. It LOOKS townie. He could have for example only mentioned some things when they were relevant like if someone got to L-1 but he started way before that and it could have been signalling to a buddy.

I'd personally start with Egg though I think.

Poseidon unbote please.. tor will self hammer

[Poseidon]

Poseidon unbote please.. tor will self hammer

You can do that???
UNVOTE:

[BuJaber]

No rule against it. It happens also. Best thing scum can do in that situation.

Also his buddy is alive snd could hammer though it would look bad I suppose.

[Toranaga]

WAIT

[Toranaga]

guys I'm town

bujaber what the hell are you doing?

[Wh4t]

The reason I voted Eragon was because it looked like A50 crumbed tracker earlier in his ISO. If BuJaber is the tracker I have no qualms putting him on the block either.

[Toranaga]

I have no words to describe how pissed I am with this game

[Wh4t]

I said EOD I couldn't elaborate but it felt like A50 was setting up for a claim and I had a feeling it would resolve today. If Bu is tracker A50 has set himself up to counterclaim as scum imo.

[Poseidon]

The reason I voted Eragon was because it looked like A50 crumbed tracker earlier in his ISO. If BuJaber is the tracker I have no qualms putting him on the block either.

For whatever it’s worth I never got that vibe from 50.

[Wh4t]

I can't stand this indecision

Married with a lack of vision

Everybody needs to state a case
(and I mean a real one now if you want me to follow your vote).

Here poseidon.

[Toranaga]

bujaber would probably not try this gambit as scum so it's one of two things: bujaber is the tracker, decided to track someone else and got no result, and is gambiting a fake result on me because there's really no downside if he thinks I'm mafia; OR bujaber is VT trying to draw a n2 kill.

either way fuck me, right?

I'm VT all the way

[Toranaga]

nah he can't be VT, he is asking to be counterclaimed here

bujaber is probably the tracker

oh well

[Toranaga]

wh4t, gnb, bujaber

poseidon

egg

A50

lynch A50 > egg > poseidon in that order

[Toranaga]

wh4t, gnb, bujaber

poseidon

egg

A50

lynch A50 > egg > poseidon in that order

oh we only have 2 lynches

fuck I need to fight this

bujaber mate, you're throwing. please unclaim this so we can lynch scum.

[Toranaga]

@BuJab

If he flips town, you’re up tomorrow.

VOTE: Toranaga

so convenient

[Wh4t]

For future reference never back down from a scumslip no matter how stupid people tell you, you are.

To reiterate actually for visibility:

WH4T: do you still stand by your claim of Tor scumslipping?

I gotta agree with Tor on this one, that makes your slot feel miles worse because it’s just too stupid

Also, it's not Egg:

Hmm. I can't think of a reason why scum would claim VT the way Tora just did. But Manatee was scummy and I don't like him keeping his vote on a town read and don't think there's a better option so I'll stay there. I think he's more likely scum than wh4t. Game....meh. I could see him being scum but don't feel strongly enough about that to switch at this time.

well you see, I'm keeping the vote on wh4t for the same reason you're keeping the vote on me. there's no better option so we're both staying where we were.

Meh, I guess. I still think you are more likely to flip scum than anyone else though.

So go Toranaga > Burger.

[Toranaga]

I got caught up in something but still around

wh4t: WRT poseidon's posting near hammer, it looks genuine. his posting otherwise has been pretty poor, he only showed up to defend himself and promised reads he never made. he is probably never town PR if he is town cause he just invited the lynch without claiming or softing anything as well. if you're legitimately townreading poseidon for that, you're disregarding two weeks of mafia playing to townread fakeable emotions someone is having near lynch. his activity is the most telling thing about his slot and it's wolfy. poseidon is definitely around lurking because he conveniently shows up when he is a wagon, and then he disappears again when heat gets off him. there's no interest in solving the game. he is voting your slot since inferno was playing and never reevaluated on it, which is pretty telling.

[Wh4t]

Tor stop. You have to die today and you know it. I'm sad enough as it is without you flailing.

[Poseidon]

I can't stand this indecision

Married with a lack of vision

Everybody needs to state a case
(and I mean a real one now if you want me to follow your vote).

Here poseidon.

Oh damn WAY back with the cryptic poem/lyrics. So, we get one inkling of LAMIST and a plethora of scum actions.

Spoiler:

41 - Early wagon pushing
216 - Opportunistic for inactivity (regardless of read)
348 - Attempting to hammer on a town claim with no proof, even though there were 5 VT's in total at the time, thinking it would give us some kind of safer alternative, when it really just throws the game more in favor of scum if there's a townflip
355 - claims to have given reads on most everyone, when (up to this post) there was only ONE post about such (176)
370 - Reconfirms hammering a VT claim
435 - Unvotes on someone he's been threatening hard with a hammer
482 - Enter the Eragon wagon which is backed up by "he's been townie but this one post seems really scummy"
Need I go on?

[Toranaga]

d

I'm making you sad? well wait until I flip