mini normal 2027: advice mafia (endgrame)

[texcat]

VOTE: Garmr

Welcome, Trustworthy!

[texcat]

Don’t forget texcat

I don't know what this means. Why would you forget me?

[texcat]

I don't really see scum pulling a fakeclaim like this on page one though.

I'm guessing RC is town, but I wouldn't bet the ranch that the claim is real.

[texcat]

So... If you doubt the claim, what alignment do you think I am and why did I make the claim when I did?

I already said that I thought you were town. I could speculate out loud about possible reasons for your claim, but it would just be speculation and I don't think it would be helpful.

[texcat]

not to be over defensive here but im town i swear on my mother

VOTE: Saudade

And I could speculate on why Saudade's opening post is overly defensive and why he needs to declare that he's town, but most of that speculation would involve him being scum, and so I'll just vote him.

[texcat]

Hello this is my first non-newbie game!

Nice to meet you!

Welcome to you, too. [**Ignoring I Am's objections to being polite.**]

[texcat]

Hello this is my first non-newbie game!

Nice to meet you!

Welcome to you, too. [**Ignoring I Am's objections to being polite.**]

Lol that isn’t what I was referring to but ok

What exactly were you referring to?

[texcat]

Umm

Maybe IAI is scum?

Maybe. I still like Saudade better. I can't understand why you're town reading him.

[texcat]

Are you 100% sure you want to do this mate?

What’s that? Play a game of mafia?
Yeah, I signed up and everything.

Or do you mean vote you?

Well, you see, you posted something that doesn’t make sense to me. I pointed it out and voted you because of it. And instead of you discussing with me why I have an issue with it, you continue to dodge the specific topic. And imply I’m just bad at the game. IMO you’re coming off as quite defensive when you do this. Which just makes me think it’s more and more likely that you’re not town.

Now if you have any interest in me thinking you are town, thus on my team, I’d think you would want to at least discuss what you said and why you would say it. I believe mafia is a team game. So if you are town we need to work together, give and take, meet each other halfway kind of stuff. But of course if you don’t want to discuss it and want to continue to just imply I’m bad that’s fine too. But I’m more than happy at the moment with where my vote is.

This post is so bad. do you think you are funny when you are saying, "What's that? Play a game of mafia?"

I know humor on the internet sometimes is difficult, but I, at least, found it wryly amusing, and I agree with Garmr that the substance made a good point.

[texcat]

Yuck. That was a whole lot of bickering to read through, and I'm not sure I got much out of it at all.

[texcat]

CT, I think a lot of us were waiting to hear how IAI responds to your case.

[texcat]

@texcat then why not put the pressure there?

OK.

VOTE: I am Innocent

[texcat]

RC, who are you thanking and how do you think they confirmed you?

[texcat]

LOL, that's not what I said, and you didn't answer either question.

[texcat]

UNVOTE:

[texcat]

I liked horrordude better

I don't know what this means.

Texcat, can you explain what made you suspect Saudade initially? You alluded to having some speculation about his potential motivations for entering as he did in 71, but I would like you to further elaborate on why you think a scum player would bother acting like Saudade did. Also, are you less suspicious of him now that you have voted for IAI? If not, then which of them do you think is more likely to be scum?

I don't think town players need to announce that they are town, at the same time claiming that they are not overly defensive, in their first post. I don't know why scum would do it, but I don't know why town would do it either. It was a page 2 scum read, and I haven't seen anything much to solidify it.

I don't know what's up with IAI. He never answered my question. I was voting him, but unvoted when he got to L-1. I don't want him hammered without replying.

@mod Are IAI and Fred Campbell being replaced? Their prods were over 48 hours ago and we haven't heard from them.

[texcat]

Texcat you didn't answer my question you scumfuck

Actually sorry to see you go. What question? Only one I saw was what my mom's number is. My mom is in heaven where there are no numbers.

[texcat]

g... gawd I love openwolfing

I see scumminess :>

No way to respond to that except to
VOTE: the worst

[texcat]

I can get behind a texcat wagon. Your ISO is utterly blank texcat - you are essentially actively lurking and have not responded to anything, You come back right away with an OMGUS vote and still no actual comments on anything.

Almost to scummy to be scum - almost but not quite. Not sure about the garmr wagon - I don't see what is particularly scummy there. Sure, the claim was garbage but it was a vt claim - essentially the same thing as stating town. It does not narrow scum search for pr roles because there is no reason to think that he is a vt over a pr if not scum - prs would make the same statement at that point. I do not know about the enormous amount of budding going on either.

Don't like the gazer or w4at slots but cannot really put my finger on why. Going to have to go through their iso a few times again.

I disagree that my iso is totally blank. And wtf do you think I have not responded to? This is total bullshit. Are you chainsawing for TheWorst?

[texcat]

I have, but I'm not sure I remember any of it except the horse head in the bed.

[texcat]

VOTE: FA_Q2

Sheeping RC + OMGUS + I think we need to start consolidating.

I could also vote for Worst or Gamma. Gamma is a little more townie than IAI was, but is still on the scummy side.

[texcat]

Hi krazy. I thought quack was in the toranga slot.

[texcat]

I think Sky is town, and I know I am, so I think you're wrong on #3.

[texcat]

krazy is bad just ignore him

I know he's not bad. Doesn't mean he's town.

[texcat]

UNVOTE:

[texcat]

and girls too obv

I don't not want skygazer and tex to vote because of their gender

Not going to happen. I'm not voting claimed masons on D1.

[texcat]

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

I thought this was town, but I can't see town continuing the push to lynch claimed masons.

[texcat]

FA_Q2 (7):

RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, Havo, Completly Trustworthy, the worst, Garmr, Gamma Emerald

These people can't all be scum, but this is a good place to start.

VOTE: Garmr

[texcat]

What is what

[texcat]

I don't object to a Rc lynch. But think it's possible that RC is just bad town. I think Garmr is more likely to be scum, based in large part, on Krazy's read.

[texcat]

Best solve for 2/3

Garmr

-- viewtopic.php?p=10397913#p10397913 this looks like scum!Garmr to me,

but I have struggled with reading this particular player in the past.

No offence but you pick the player that Krazy struggles to read? I can guarantee you that him being uneasy about trying to figure out my style played a part of why he wanted me gone.

Welp I was wrong oh well no biggy.

We just lynched a claimed mason, and you say it's no biggie.

I don't object to a Rc lynch. But think it's possible that RC is just bad town. I think Garmr is more likely to be scum, based in large part, on Krazy's read.

In this case then, please explain why the change from D1.

Aside from the obvious 2 flips since D1? Some of it has to do with the attitude I mention above. RC seems contrite. Garmr isn't. And I don't know what is up with the duck.

I don't object to a Rc lynch. But think it's possible that RC is just bad town. I think Garmr is more likely to be scum, based in large part, on Krazy's read.

You think RC is just “Bad Town”? Seriously?

When has RC ever been just Bad Town?

IDK. I'm not an expert in RC meta. RC does seem like a willful strong person who doesn't let facts get in the way.

[texcat]

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

I thought this was town, but I can't see town continuing the push to lynch claimed masons.

FA_Q2 (7):

RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, Havo, Completly Trustworthy, the worst, Garmr, Gamma Emerald

These people can't all be scum, but this is a good place to start.

VOTE: Garmr

????

I don't object to a Rc lynch. But think it's possible that RC is just bad town. I think Garmr is more likely to be scum, based in large part, on Krazy's read.

talk me through when and why your mind changed after yesterday

do you see RC/Garmr as scum together?

I wouldn't rule it out.

Late yesterday it became apparent that we were going to lynch a mason unless RC stopped the push. I hoped that voting RC would wake them up and get them to look somewhere else. Didn't happen. I still think RC could be scum, just not my top pick today.

[texcat]

I'm conflicted by RC

On one hand I doubt he'd want to be the leading push for a mason mislynch.. On the other hand I've gone along with the "it's RC he can be very pushy as town" train of thought (if that makes sense) so maybe scum!rc thinks he can get away with this? Anyone who has like, more meta experience with RC?

I'm also fine lynching texcat, tbh. TW doesn;t convince me either, but at least he's active which may help in reading him later, tex isn't that active.

That's my $0.02 for now

It wasn't just a mason mislynch. It was a mislynch of a mason whose partner confirmed them.

Claimed and confirmed mason partners.

And it wasn't just RC, it was 6 other people who followed along with him. Don't you think that might be more indicative of scum than meh, tex isn't that active, or meh TW doesn't convince me?

[texcat]

Something just seems off with Havo's latest posts. In 1318, they ask whether Rc is really just "bad town", implying they are suspicious of RC. Then they say that they are on board with voting someone that Radiant is pushing in 1319 and soft defend him in 1320 by asking whether he needs to be flipped. These posts seem really contradictory, I'm not sure whether Havo is just sheeping other people or not, but I'm starting to become wary of them.

I'd like to see Havo respond to this, but he wouldn't be my pick for a vote today. He did not post after the mason claim, so I'm not sure whether he saw it or not.

The Worst is also suspicious to me. He repeatedly said Texcat was scum, but only bothered to sheep RC and Krazy. In fact, he said in 986 that he didn't understand why people wanted to lynch FA. If that was the case, then why did he just go along with voting him multiple times? In addition, the majority of his posts do not relate to solving the game and it feels like he's active lurking. Just look at his ISO and you'll realize the vast majority of his posts are worthless.

I could go along with this. I'm tired of the naked let's lynch tex posts.

[texcat]

Meh I waited to see how people act long enough long enough if you want lynch actual scum today lynch tex
VOTE: texcat

lol I don't know what that means, but it looks like OMGUS.

[texcat]

VOTE: Garmr

Knowing what I know there's like a 95% chance this is a fakeclaim unless town is way overpowered

100% fake

[texcat]

If Garmr is faking this claim, he is probably scum. If so, why would he make a claim that would probably not be believed? Texcat was looking like a player who could easily be lynched, so I don't understand why an incriminating fake claim that essentially sacrifices a member of the mafia would be something the scumteam would go through with. Does the scumteam think that Texcat is a PR and is worth sacrificing Garmr for? If that is not the case, I can't think of a reason to bother with a fakeclaim this early. So I believe that Garmr is either telling the truth or is running some type of gambit.

I've been wondering the same thing. It doesn't make sense from a scum pov, unless they've gotten really over-confident after killing the masons. Garmr doesn't strike me as the type of player that is so sure that he's right that he fakes a guilty as town, but TW seems to think he might.

[texcat]

My guesses are never right, but if I had to guess right now, I'd guess Garmr, Gamma, HWS. Possibly you, possibly Wh4t.

[texcat]

Good, let's lynch some of them. Who is your scum team?

[texcat]

Also my past experience with garmr includes him guiltying town and me being forced to decide between pling him for it and lynching my game long scumread. I did win that but like

Regardless of garmrs alignment, if the claim is real garmr is too high threat to leave alive so nah.

I'm guessing that you didn't pl him for it, or he might not be still trying stunts like this.

[texcat]

for my part I'm just... not at all apologetic about the mason situation.
the masons should have realized how bad their interactions looked and that my pushing them for it was at worst NAI and actually addressed the heart of my concern by talking about the convo in mason chat that led up to it
they didn't, they chose to shit on me for being bad for thinking that masons don't talk about how hard it is to read each other when I also have an established record of dealing with masons poorly, and we get to today.

Did I play badly? in terms of reading FA_Q2 wrong yes, maybe. But from another point of view FA_Q2 was playing as an informed player and concealing information about DT that they knew, so how was I supposed to know they weren't scum doing scum things?

RC, you were quick to say that we should let scum sort out the Garmr fake claim. Why didn't you say the same thing about the masons yesterday?

[texcat]

Let's try this...

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[texcat]

Basically, I'd would normally be voting for Wh4t right now, but I'm currently hesitating to do so because plenty of people from the FA wagon(you, Sky, Havo, TW) are on it. RC, I followed your lead once and it didn't pay off, now I want to be more careful before doing what you say. If you and others engaged with me further, this problem might be fixed.

If RC is scum, there’s a very good chance that he’s the only scum on the FA wagon.

If RC is town, then there’s a very good chance at least 2 scum on that wagon.

Just vote What, and I’ll solve this game tomorrow.

That’s why my activity has been throttled. I’m waiting patiently for Day 3. If What is the lynch today, we’re good. If someone other than What is the lynch, then all bets are off. I know it’s asking a lot, but I’m supremely confident here.

First, I disagree with your assumption that if RC is scum, he is the only scum on the wagon. Second, I don't see what that has to do with voting Wh4t. Third, I don't know why you think you can only solve the game if we lynch Wh4t.

[texcat]

We need to start talking again, if we keep posting at the same rate, we're handing the game to the scumteam.

It bothers me that Wh4t has just disappeared when he is the vote leader, but I'm not sure that means anything as far as his alignment goes.

@mod -- Could we get some prods for Wh4t and Gamma please?

[texcat]

I'd like to hear from Wh4t before anyone hammers.

Wh4t (5):

RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, the worst, Havo, Gamma Emerald

And I'm not likely to hammer when the wagon consists of the same people who lynched the masons.

[texcat]

BOP?

[texcat]

Looking at Texcat's ISO, the only comment about GE before the vote was in 859, so I would like an explanation as to why they did it.

This is bananas! My ISO is not so long or dense. You should be able to see where I have been suspicious of IAI/Gamma Emerald since the beginning of the game.

Spoiler:

VOTE: FA_Q2

Sheeping RC + OMGUS + I think we need to start consolidating.

I could also vote for Worst or Gamma. Gamma is a little more townie than IAI was, but is still on the scummy side.

I liked horrordude better

I don't know what this means.

Texcat, can you explain what made you suspect Saudade initially? You alluded to having some speculation about his potential motivations for entering as he did in 71, but I would like you to further elaborate on why you think a scum player would bother acting like Saudade did. Also, are you less suspicious of him now that you have voted for IAI? If not, then which of them do you think is more likely to be scum?

I don't think town players need to announce that they are town, at the same time claiming that they are not overly defensive, in their first post. I don't know why scum would do it, but I don't know why town would do it either. It was a page 2 scum read, and I haven't seen anything much to solidify it.

I don't know what's up with IAI. He never answered my question. I was voting him, but unvoted when he got to L-1. I don't want him hammered without replying.

@mod Are IAI and Fred Campbell being replaced? Their prods were over 48 hours ago and we haven't heard from them.

@texcat then why not put the pressure there?

OK.

VOTE: I am Innocent

[texcat]

Basically, I'd would normally be voting for Wh4t right now, but I'm currently hesitating to do so because plenty of people from the FA wagon(you, Sky, Havo, TW) are on it. RC, I followed your lead once and it didn't pay off, now I want to be more careful before doing what you say. If you and others engaged with me further, this problem might be fixed.

If RC is scum, there’s a very good chance that he’s the only scum on the FA wagon.

If RC is town, then there’s a very good chance at least 2 scum on that wagon.

Just vote What, and I’ll solve this game tomorrow.

That’s why my activity has been throttled. I’m waiting patiently for Day 3. If What is the lynch today, we’re good. If someone other than What is the lynch, then all bets are off. I know it’s asking a lot, but I’m supremely confident here.

What made you change your mind about at least 2 scum on the FA wagon?

[texcat]

VOTE: Garmr

I was silly to move off of him after that dreadful fake guilty on me. Strange thing is...he thought I was scummy enough to fake a guilty on, but then he followed my vote onto GammaE. Throw in a scum flip of the alternate and I think Garmr just about has to be scum.

[texcat]

I'm not forgetting anything. Just because you made an excuse to follow me, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

[texcat]

Current reads just in case anyone cares.

Garmr

HWS
GammaE, Havo
TheWorst
Skygazer, RedRuby
CT

Texcat

[texcat]

Tec cats going to use me as a excuse to coast so sorting me may be a good option

What are your reads Garmr? Perhaps you should post them before you start accusing me of coasting.

[texcat]

{RR, RC}
{HWS, Skygazer, Havo}
{Texcat}
{Gamma Emerald}
{Garmr, TW}
{Wh4t, CT}

this is p good mostly I think btw so if not Have we just lynch CT's slot. :0

I'm not going to vote CT, but I would vote Havo. CT is town, and I'm sorry he replaced out. I much prefer Garmr. I may not have time until the end of the week, but I think you could put together a pretty good case on Garmr.

[texcat]

Havo, who do you think my teammate is? Do you have a reads list?

[texcat]

Tec cats going to use me as a excuse to coast so sorting me may be a good option

What are your reads Garmr? Perhaps you should post them before you start accusing me of coasting.

Nice deflection

It looks like you are the one deflecting. Do you think we didn't notice that you didn't answer the question? Do you have any reads?

[texcat]

are you trying to argue that people should be townreading a fake guilty

Are you trying to argue that scum me did this on a slot i could of probably pushed to lynch at the time after I pushed to lynch masons day 1?

This looks a lot like an admission of guilt in lynching the masons.

[texcat]

are you trying to argue that people should be townreading a fake guilty

Are you trying to argue that scum me did this on a slot i could of probably pushed to lynch at the time after I pushed to lynch masons day 1?

This looks a lot like an admission of guilt in lynching the masons.

He never said wasn’t responsible in fact we went over this d2, you’re just twisting things at this point

Maybe it's just my biased point of view, but it sounded to me like he was bragging about getting the masons lynched. <Shrug>

[texcat]

Maybe it's just my biased point of view, but it sounded to me like he was bragging about getting the masons lynched.

throw me some quotes which made you feel this way?

are you trying to argue that people should be townreading a fake guilty

Are you trying to argue that scum me did this on a slot i could of probably pushed to lynch at the time after I pushed to lynch masons day 1?

It was really just the one. And it's just that he's taking credit for

pushing to lynch

the masons, not just voting the masons. He's arguing that he didn't need to fake a guilty on me to get lynched. He could have pushed me instead of the masons and gotten me lynched. I guess that where I sense that he's bragging. Like he thinks he's so good that whoever he pushed would be lynched. What doesn't make sense is that on one hand he says he didn't need to fake a guilty on me, and on the other hand, he did fake a guilty on me.

Welp I was wrong oh well no biggy.

I already commented on this. This does not seem to be the normal town reaction to getting confirmed masons lynched. Compare it to RC's reaction.

Hi I expect to be literally hated right now

I have literally never, over the past 5 years I've been here, seen a mason mason interaction anything like this one. If anyone wants to dig through my history in search of that they are welcome to but I had every reason to believe masons wouldn't actually talk about being unable to sort one another and them doing so now amazes me and I couldn't really play around it. Sorry for being super wrong but I was just trying to win.

I'm not jailkeeper enabler if I have to say that, I just didn't want to die n1.

RC feels bad and tries to explain where he went wrong. Garmr seems to be trying to preempt us thinking that he voted for the masons because he was scum, by saying that he was wrong. And has continued that.

Yeah I lynched the masons never denied it doesn't make me scum just wrong at the time.

I realize some of this may be my confirmation bias. But the facts are that

Garmr is the only person who has been on the wrong side of both lynches.

Not only did he push to lynch the masons, but he did not vote Wh4t, and looks to be subtly trying to defend Wh4t.

What's the case on wh4t again?

Garmr, why do you dislike the Wh4t wagon and want to vote somewhere else? Can you say why you think GE is more suspicious or make a case for Wh4t being towny?

I don't dislike the wh4t wagon I just don't understand why his being scumread I asked multiple times but got no answer.

[texcat]

Nice to know who sent me the fruit.

[texcat]

@mod

Could you please update the op with the replacement players?

yeah

[texcat]

I think a mass claim is a good idea.

[texcat]

Ok. I'm VT.

Popcorn to

Nauci

.

[texcat]

Havo should be able to confirm the Loud portion of your role, Sky, right?

[texcat]

Looking back, it looks like both RC and TW crumbed your visit.

You've been softing a power role from the beginning. I'm bothered that TW was killed last night instead of you.

[texcat]

A vanilla cop makes perfect sense. I should have thought of that.

[texcat]

Ewww...I don't think you're that much of an idiot. Didn't you see where I said that it looked like the two dead people crumbed? Did you bother to look back yourself to see the crumbs? Or did you just decide to throw some shade? This looks like scum throwing shade to me.

[texcat]

Everyone has claimed, right? I believe the PR claims by Sky and Ruby. We have 5 VTs. Havo has been sort of cleared by Sky (could be sole scum, or could be ascetic or ?). I think Brian is town. That leaves me with Gamma and Nauci. I'm going to vote for one of them.

[texcat]

i feel like i want to vote texcat here, her posts have been kinda pockety/buddying towards me today??

Maybe it's just because I'm finally pretty sure that you are town.

VOTE: texcat
Still feel like this is the play
Compare her play to Large 213 and tell me it isn’t similar (warning that reading that game might take a while)

This is a BS comparison. Did you bother to look at any of my town games? They are equally similar.

VOTE: Gamma

[texcat]

Tell us what the difference is.

[texcat]

Tell us what the difference is.

You not contributing in any meaningful way.

This is BS. I asked what the difference between my town meta and my scum meta is. If you had looked at any of my town games you'd see people accusing me of not contributing. And it's crap. I don't post a lot. I don't fluff a lot, but my posts do contribute; they are meaningful.

And if you wanted to vote for someone who hasn't contributed, you'd vote for Nauci. None of the players in that slot have done anything.

[texcat]

Has anyone EVER seen 3 masons in a mini?

I haven't, but that doesn't mean very much. It's an extremely good fake claim if it's fake. Suadade (Ruby) declared Doubting Thomas (Krazy) to be 100% town a few times. He defended FA. It looks true to me.

[texcat]

Skygazer could just be a Mafia Rolecop, I guess.

Either way, I still don't like the way texcat interacted with the Mason wagon (as well as the way she pointed fingers at those players the following day). And Nauci makes me question my read on his slot (which makes me less inclined to go Sky's direction today).

What do you mean you don't like the way I interacted? I unvoted after we had claimed and confirmed masons. I can't imagine why you would dislike that.

[texcat]

I do care, but I don't know what you expect me to do about it.

From my POV the scum almost have to be Gamma and Nauci. If lynching me today helps you lynch Gamma and Nauci next, then I'm happy to be the lynch. I've eliminated Sky and Ruby. If they're scum, then they deserve the win.

This is probably my last game on this site. I'm tired of all the people who sign up and then don't play. I'm tired of always being accused of not doing anything just because I'm not a big fluffy poster.

[texcat]

these two posts look like they're coming from someone who knew the mason claim was legit and the way she doesn't follow through on D2 makes me think she realized that it'd be a really hard mislynch to push

You don't have to know that the claim is legit to not vote for claimed masons on D1. I'm never going to vote for claimed masons on D1.

[texcat]

I'd like to hear from Wh4t before anyone hammers.

Wh4t (5):

RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, the worst, Havo, Gamma Emerald

And I'm not likely to hammer when the wagon consists of the same people who lynched the masons.

shading the people on the wh4t wagon

This was continued shading of the people on the claimed mason wagon. After the Wh4t flip, I had to re-evaluate.

[texcat]

Sorry Nauci, feel better!

[texcat]

And the plus would be that we'd be lynching scum.

[texcat]

VOTE: Nauci

[texcat]

I've been saying that I thought the scum have to be Gamma and Nauci for quite some time now. Don't act surprised that I voted Nauci.

[texcat]

what if we all promised to just put a ton of effort in to this game and win

any takers

I wouldn't take a ton of effort. All it would take is a couple of votes.

[texcat]

Sigh.

[texcat]

rb'd/ascetic?

I'm vanilla town, so it wasn't due to me. The two dead mafia were both goons. So, it makes sense that the one remaining might have some powers.

VOTE: Gamma

[texcat]

No, I did not.

[texcat]

Just because it's the standard default, doesn't mean that it has to be that way, does it? It seems to me that I've seen PMs that said you can't use a power and kill unless you are the only remaining scum.

[texcat]

Mafia, by default, may no longer kill and use an ability in the same night. Previously, the mod would have to specify this. The multitasking modifier has been added to keep this option open, without adding an extra often-meaningless step of forcing mods to specify whether or not mafia may kill and act in the same night.

Multitasking is possible in a normal.

[texcat]

A traffic analyst makes so much sense in this setup with the masons though.

[texcat]

I've had a town read on her most of the game. Some of that was because she's been soft-claiming since day one.

[texcat]

Oh, I don't remember seeing any from Day 1.

Can you show me?

I was going from memory, but I just scanned through her iso and I didn't actually find any until D2. I had a feeling on D1 that Sky might have had the role that RC had claimed enabler for because of the buddying going on. Of course all of that turned out to be bs.

Just because it's the standard default, doesn't mean that it has to be that way, does it? It seems to me that I've seen PMs that said you can't use a power and kill unless you are the only remaining scum.

That was before Multitasking became a thing though right?

idk, it may be my mis-remembering again, it might have been on another site.

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I still think Sky is town, and wouldn't have any problem voting for Brian here, except for the roleblock yesterDay.

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What did you do last night, Sky?

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Brian, did you get the loud notice from Sky?

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I'm going to sleep on it.

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VOTE: Brian

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Sorry.