mini normal 2027: advice mafia (endgrame)

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VOTE: Garmr

Hi! XD

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Yeah I feel that too.

VOTE: FA_Q2

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Nice to see you again Skygazer.
Also, Wh4t, why did you change your vote?

From what little I can discern so far garmr seems fine. FA and yourself have the most awkward entrances imo.

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Also Hi RC

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Let's give thomas a nice welcome lynch!

RC i'll take 2nd <3. Thoughts on Saudade?

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Nice to see you again Skygazer.
Also, Wh4t, why did you change your vote?

From what little I can discern so far garmr seems fine. FA and yourself have the most awkward entrances imo.

Don’t forget texcat

What was wrong with Texcat's entrance?

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I wish you good luck on your date Wh4t

Wh4t?

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The same thing that doubting Thomas did, tho DT went way more overboard on it.

You mean saying hello to people?

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That’s enough for me.

UNVOTE: texcat
VOTE: completely trustworthy

IAI why did you unvote texcat but then keep bringing up her nullish entrance?

You're willing to vote DT too, but it seems like you're looking for permission before voting the possible lynchbait slot. You ask garmr why isn't he voting whilst not voting for the person youve said is scummiest.

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CT who did you reasonably expect to reply to post 80 and why? The whole thing seems pretty LAMIST.

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FA have you played with RC before? He is almost always N1 NK or D1 mislynch. If the claim is legit then is it not optimal to claim it when you are someone who is very paranoid about being killed N1? You coming in with such certainty about the claim being false is slightly worrying. The JK doesn't have to protect him but he could and that WIFOM could be enough to keep RC from being targeted.

I disagree with your CT read completely, rushing out of RVS is not AI and in fact scum would most likely want to look proactive to get towncred. Most of his posts feel like posturing more than anything, like why would someone genuinely believe that players will post links to games for you instead of you doing the work yourself? It reads as LAMIST busy work to me.

So far IAI and CT are scumreads for me.
Null on pretty much everyone else but I want to believe RC is town.

VOTE: IAI

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Nothing of that claim comes from a town mindset IMHO. There is a LOT there that I can see coming from a scum mindset.

I can see how it's anti-town but I think you're getting confused with anti-town vs scum mindsets. How does him claiming what he has help scum? He hasn't asked for the JK to claim, so I'm not sure how he would achieve role-fishing with the claim, and also he would leave all other PRs free to use their role on his buddy as they would avoid using it on RC with his claim as he may be Jailkept.

I'm not trying to hard defend RC but I just don't see how pulling this gambit benefits scum. It actually doesn't benefit either alignment except maybe a very paranoid town!RC, who thinks he's keeping the JK active by claiming. From my recent experience with RC, this isn't as far fetched as scum!RC outing himself for no obvious benefit. I would prefer if we did the normal scum hunt thing today and if RC is still a main suspect after a few decent wagons then by all means, however the claim is not a scum claim in itself imo.

Following this I also townlean saudade for his joke-counterclaim entrance. I know it's been a few years for you but OMGUSing someone isn't really something that scum exclusively do now. Saudade reads carefree and arrogant in tone which is something I think scum would try to avoid in their posting, so as not to rub people the wrong way. IME scum try to stay under the radar and what RC and Saudade are doing isn't that lol.

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You avoided my question to you and you seem to have only said things that you think make me scummy but then null read me. Why?

I said you had one of the two most awkward entrances to me. I'm not sure what you wanted me to answer? I avoided moving my vote from you until you reentered the thread and you appear to be pushing your scum reads which elevated you back to null and so I moved onto my next suspect.

I don't recall having said things about you being scummy otherwise?

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You avoided my question to you and you seem to have only said things that you think make me scummy but then null read me. Why?

I said you had one of the two most awkward entrances to me. I'm not sure what you wanted me to answer? I avoided moving my vote from you until you reentered the thread and you appear to be pushing your scum reads which elevated you back to null and so I moved onto my next suspect.

I don't recall having said things about you being scummy otherwise?

I want to know what was 'awkward' about it and what constitutes an entrance that would not be awkward.

As you said yourself, RVS is RVS so trying to find something that stands out I scanned the posts with my gut feel and your one stood out as trying too hard to be casual, so I pushed to find out. An entrance that would not be awkward would be one that just seems like a natural thing to post, not overly thought out or with some potential underlying agenda. How are these questions helping you?

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RC, I'm not sure he's scum though. I think doing the thing you're doing now as town is only going to play to scum advantage by getting more people to vote you.

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Because reasoning is important. Scum has to fake their reasoning. Your reasoning felt somewhat forced.

You literally

forced

me to explain an RVS gut read. I could do something similar and ask how is my post forced and what constitutes a nonforced post? It feels designed like a perjury trap but I'll stop trumping on.

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Actually thinking about it FA can be a scum read. I found his entrance awkward, he then froze only to appear later pushing RC for his claim in a totally nonsensical way. He then continues to scumread RC for wanting to policy lynch him in a way that makes me feel like he knows RCs alignment. RC and FA are not SvS unless this is some dramatic scum theatre but I don't see why FA would inflate the suspicion already on RC this early.

Also, now instead of assessing my play as a whole to get a read on me he just nitpicks the post where I found him scummy in a way that feels defensive. If you were objective town you wouldn't feel the need to ask me designed questions to throw shade on me, when I'm cleary a threat to scum by being a player who easily obv.towns. I also dislike that your push on me is half-hearted, with no conclusion and no vote.

VOTE: FA_q2

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DT, I just took Saudade's post to be a joke that Havo replied to however I also disliked the reply. You can be town.

{DT, Saudade}
{RC}
{Everyone else}
{Havo}
{CT, IAI, FA}

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did you just call yourself obvious town and by that declared him scum for scumreading you slightly?

Um no? I said as scum he could consider me a threat which would explain why he's trying to cast shade on me.

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O_o'

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It would be good if people didn't quote embedded quotes only to reply with short sentences - theres the magic trick of selecting the part you want to reply to before hitting the quote button. Please use.

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Jfc.

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I'm phone posting too try reading this page lol.

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i want to put the spotlight on this guy tho
what everybody think of him so far

What do you think of him?

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I feel like CT is pocketing me personally by scumreading my scumreads and recycling my ideas... >.>

You can move up a tier but I'm watching you buddy.

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I'll be back when the thread isn't so spaz.

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Yeah that whole thing with Havo/Saudade/DT makes me think worse of Saudade and DT rather than Havo. It seemed like DT was baiting Havo into reacting and then made a big fuss when Havo wanted to reply via laptop instead of instantly, which has happened to me before by scum. I think DT looks worse than Saudade, I doubt they are scum together though.

I like how FA just spun my nitpicking comment to further illustrate how he nitpicks posts to portray people a certain way. There is no objectivity at all tbh. I'm happy with where my vote is atm.

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Horrordude why did you unvote instead of putting pressure on someone if you're finding it hard to read people?

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This gamestate heavily favours scum right now

What's wrong with the gamestate? I'm pretty happy with the IAI wagon. If he doesn't respond soon we should L-1 him.

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Because CT right now is a newbie town read as well and I didn't want to keep an RVS vote on that slot at this point.

Your vote doesn't necessarily have to be on CT though?

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I was wondering when you were going to do that RC. It took you longer than usual It's ok I still <3 you.

VOTE: IAI

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Oh I think that's L-1 btw

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Is IAI being replaced?

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Yeah I actually refuse to play with towns like this, this game isn't worth it.

replace me

D;

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RC I'm not scum you derp and I have never been scum so? Anyway I'm busy

VLA until next Wednesday.

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Also, Skygazer if you don't get off me I'm going to death tunnel you until you actually give some useful indication you're town.

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RC what the actual fuck are you doing? Get off.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

You give no fucks all day and when I go VLA you start trying to have me wagoned? I dare you to case me. I wish we could spend one game together where we didn't have to do this.

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Hi guys this is actual scum.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

I'm not putting it past you at all to have derp claimed to live N1 and have the conf town masons killed. You're not getting away with this. I also think skygazer has high scum equity when you flip red, noone should be town reading you at this point.

Tex why garmr?

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Sup ducky

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Help me lynch scum RC.

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Why tex? And we need to flip RC today.

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RC is the only person whose meta I am familiar with. He is NOT a VI he is scum. After reading the last few pages (eff reading all of it) and looking at the way he bulldozed Krazy after a mason claim makes zero sense from a town pov. If we had left their claim alone scum NK would've taken care of it.

Your push on me is bullshit sky and is pure OMGUS but I don't expect anything less from the buddy. You have a whole day to go off but you SR me for "not solving" when I haven't been around for a week.

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I remember you scumreading DT earlier on so your progression is Natural. Im assuming RC didn't push DT until he claimed. I will have to reread.