Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)


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Post Post #4395 (isolation #200) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:34 am

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can i MANhammer projectmatt yet?

no? evil titus still spamming the game with bullshit? alright, will come back later...
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Post Post #4397 (isolation #201) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:37 am

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okay, only for you ETL :]
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Post Post #4398 (isolation #202) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:38 am

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can we lynch davesaz for blatantly pushing scum wincon?
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Post Post #4399 (isolation #203) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:38 am

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that little getting roleblocked thing by OtM yesterday is also
really
fishy...
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Post Post #4403 (isolation #204) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:42 am

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and then ETL disappears.

or is writing a giant wall.

p-edit okay sure!

read daveasz vs punreader and see if dave doesnt come across as extremely scummy while pun comes off as extra townie
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Post Post #4405 (isolation #205) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:42 am

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In post 4401, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 4394, Impossibear wrote:It has fuck all to do with your role. Stop acting like you blocking dave and wilky failing are in any way fucking related whatsoever if a redirector exists, which it fucking does. End of story.

ETL
Yay more ETL screaming at me.

As if that is gonna ‘convince’ me. You’re literally inventing a redirector when there is no proof any exists.

Going to work.
if good titus cant convince evil titus.... no one can convince evil titus...
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Post Post #4407 (isolation #206) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:45 am

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In post 4400, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 4399, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:that little getting roleblocked thing by OtM yesterday is also
really
fishy...
Explain what you mean.

Let's chat about reads while you're here.

ETL
remember how OtM was making a GIANT FUSS about roleblocking scum yesterday... and no kill... blah blah...?

what if... WHAT IF... dave actually submitted the nightkill and got roleblocked?

well, we ignored it because you are bulletproof

but his actions are scummy now

he is blatantly pushing REALMEN even though its clearly 100% proofed bullshit by mister punreader

and cannot respond to logic, all the logic flaws are obvious

now you may argue: "well, we've seen dumber towns than that!"

but sometimes, scum are just scum. and they do things to push scum agenda.

the best REAL MEN SCUM can push scum agenda while looking towny. you know you can do so too.

why exempt daveasz?
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Post Post #4409 (isolation #207) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:49 am

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thats why they're not a lawyer
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Post Post #4411 (isolation #208) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:54 am

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i have taken a look, and although it looks >rand town, it can be faked by a player of high skill level. such as myself and yourself.

do we have any gauge of pmatt's skill level? i recall some players earlier saying that he was a very good player. or something.
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Post Post #4413 (isolation #209) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:58 am

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In post 4412, Impossibear wrote:
In post 4411, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:i have taken a look, and although it looks >rand town, it can be faked by a player of high skill level. such as myself and yourself.

do we have any gauge of pmatt's skill level? i recall some players earlier saying that he was a very good player. or something.
I've only played a couple times with him and have no personal gauge of his skill, but have also heard he is very good and can easily be townread as scum. I don't necessarily want to decide this on his ability though. I want to decide if this is really the right decision to be making today.

Are you proficient in reading Ankamius?

ETL
yeah anka is town here
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Post Post #4416 (isolation #210) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:02 am

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In post 238, Ventriloquist wrote:
In post 201, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: Ramcius

agree, that's good wagon
I don't understand why a townie (moreover, anyone) would vote for themselves - seems like you saw a wagon forming and then panicked to try and loosen the noose around your neck. Also, why change your vote to Wilky seemingly just because Ouroboros called you out for it? Please explain your logic.

VOTE: Ramcius
well the first thing i saw was ramcius spewed town

still a good vig target

except that he replaced out!
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Post Post #4417 (isolation #211) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:06 am

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thats all i have from his junk tiny ISO that is likely smaller than his MAN parts
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Post Post #4421 (isolation #212) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:16 am

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In post 4418, Ankamius wrote:Realmen did you answer the question I had about how much experience you have with e? I don't remember getting a response to that
decline to answer
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Post Post #4423 (isolation #213) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:23 am

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yeah, its cool that i arrived at the same conclusions as you did^

unfortunately, they were pretty obvious, or, doesnt really advance the gamestate because we already have those players as town already.
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Post Post #4424 (isolation #214) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:23 am

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or they're dead. that too.
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Post Post #4427 (isolation #215) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:26 am

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yeah thats a pretty good review list.

add the part where i say dunnstral is town

punreader is >rand town but i do admit i get paranoia on him too
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Post Post #4430 (isolation #216) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:28 am

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In post 4428, Impossibear wrote:if we're thinking 4 total in this game, which I agree with, 3/7 isn't that bad I suppose. 42% chance of hitting scum today. Can we afford to simply lynch the scummiest out of this pool until they're found or the others are proven to be town?

pedit ok, i missed the dunn read.
if you vig the rest, yes we can
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Post Post #4431 (isolation #217) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:29 am

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In post 4429, Impossibear wrote:
In post 4427, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:add the part where i say dunnstral is town
how confident is this read? what is your experience with the player?

ETL
i'm more confident on dunnstral than ankamius

dunnstral is really transparent. he is
easy
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Post Post #4433 (isolation #218) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:37 am

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oh yeah, dont forget that daveaz is a miller so technically investigative abilities shouldnt be on him


i wouldnt miss him if u vigged him
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Post Post #4435 (isolation #219) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:43 am

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yup i think we reached a constructive conclusion here. thanks for the chat ETL. you've been great.
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Post Post #4485 (isolation #220) » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:33 am

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go ahead and MANhammer

VOTE: projectmatt
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Post Post #4687 (isolation #221) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:01 pm

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hey. nice lynch yesterday. fucking sucks for ETL to die, now the only players I joined this game for are dead. oh well I’ll try to carry until they kill me

today’s quest makes you a commuter for 3 nights. really useful but only for our IC.

the ass part of the requirement is: i can’t tell you the requirement. so you might activate it by accident. or you might not.

good luck
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Post Post #4689 (isolation #222) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:03 pm

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can someone run me through why Maria is scum? cos I still think Dave is scum. Maybe both, who knows?
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Post Post #4692 (isolation #223) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:04 pm

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VOTE: daveasz

parking for now
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Post Post #4693 (isolation #224) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:05 pm

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oh that’s nice

ill MANhammer later if I see a chance
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Post Post #5024 (isolation #225) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:34 pm

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hey guys sorry I didn’t check the thread

Today’s quest is easy: kaede just needs to be on the lynch today and the lynch must end on scum. HE will then unable to die by any means for 3 days and nights.
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Post Post #5026 (isolation #226) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:36 pm

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VOTE: daveasz

Still blatantly trying to advance scum wincon
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Post Post #5039 (isolation #227) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:00 pm

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why should I hold back? I want to win the game so that this can be over ASAP

bad player detected
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Post Post #5040 (isolation #228) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:01 pm

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In post 5029, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5024, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:HE will then unable to die by any means for 3 days and nights.
1) This sounds fake

2) I think there's only 1 scum left so this quest never does anything

That coupled with the last quest failure and then giving it to the dead person means he needs to go now

it’s not my fault we’re so good at this game

these quests were assigned by gif not me
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Post Post #5041 (isolation #229) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:01 pm

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lynch me if you want, you guys have more than enough mislynched to spare and I want out after ETL/RC/OTM died anyway. already fulfilled my wincon

peace out
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Post Post #5042 (isolation #230) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:03 pm

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In post 5036, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Jungle if you dont want my vote to be on you, then you need to give us all your reads with reasons and analysis because you've been quite missing and barely done anything for the last few game days, and even then, i'll decide whether i want to continue voting you or not after i read anything you have to say.

my MANvote is on dave. I wanted him dead since yesterday. i was first on pmatt and punreader already called me almost conftown by play. so whatever
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Post Post #5043 (isolation #231) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:03 pm

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In post 5027, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 5024, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:and the lynch must end on scum.
That's easier said than done.

What are your thoughts on dave possibly having been roleblocked last night by OTM?

that’s the meme

the quests were never easy

MANSARCASM flew right over your head
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Post Post #5044 (isolation #232) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:06 pm

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id never make the nightkills made this game so far as scum. all the named pro towns are dying. means that absolute n00bs are at the wheel and scum got a bad rand

peace out for real
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Post Post #5053 (isolation #233) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:33 pm

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look assholes, if you guys are too fucking retarded to realize I’m pretty much locktown by now that’s on you. idiots are doing me a favor getting me out of the game. like I said, I never kill ETL or RC here if I’m scum because i joined this game to play with them. full stop. somehow after I claimed today’s quest I’m magically on the lynch table despite ALL the cases made for me being town. what fucking retards
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Post Post #5054 (isolation #234) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:34 pm

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like only REAL MAN KAEDE thinks I’m town here but they’re voting me anyway because why not?

well guess what, i have no intention on wasting further time on level 1 town who thinks effort = town so fire away
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Post Post #5055 (isolation #235) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:35 pm

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In post 5049, Ankamius wrote:
In post 5044, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:id never make the nightkills made this game so far as scum. all the named pro towns are dying. means that absolute n00bs are at the wheel and scum got a bad rand

peace out for real
I want this unpacked too

None of these kills were weird to me.
there’s nothing weird about the kills. It just never made by me though.
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Post Post #5056 (isolation #236) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:36 pm

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In post 5047, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 5042, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:i was first on pmatt
Point me to your actual case on pjm. You were actually second on the wagon, then left and returned to make it L-2. The first vote seemed strictly OMGUS and I can't see where your case is anywhere in your ISO.
having no cases makes me even more towny. having a case means it’s a planned bus. idiot. keep on continuing to think effort = town though and being a filthy casual
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Post Post #5057 (isolation #237) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:38 pm

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you want my reads? here’s my reads:

everyone is town.
daveasz is scum

unchanged from yesterday

good luck
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Post Post #5063 (isolation #238) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:04 pm

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In post 5061, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 5056, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:
In post 5047, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 5042, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:i was first on pmatt
Point me to your actual case on pjm. You were actually second on the wagon, then left and returned to make it L-2. The first vote seemed strictly OMGUS and I can't see where your case is anywhere in your ISO.
having no cases makes me even more towny. having a case means it’s a planned bus. idiot. keep on continuing to think effort = town though and being a filthy casual
Who said it was a planned bus? Because it looks like you got voted by a buddy and threw out a vote back, then backed off when you thought you could and rejoined the wagon when it looked certain he was going down that Day. And calling me an idiot is a damn good way to make me keep my vote on you.
that’s what makes me town, n00b

case in point
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Post Post #5064 (isolation #239) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:05 pm

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In post 5062, Alchemist21 wrote:Seriously, you're trying to take Town credit for being on PJM when you have absolutely no right to do so.
“I was first on pjm”

“no, you were second”

that’s your fucking argument? go fuck a cow. and read pun’s case on why I’m town

get good
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Post Post #5065 (isolation #240) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:06 pm

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kaede you should just drop the act and vote dave. I don’t really care if I’m lynched but it’s a pity if you waste a mislynch just because
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Post Post #5066 (isolation #241) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:08 pm

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once you guys are done with your unMANLY (and really stupid) SJW protest get back to the MANwagon on dave

or not. the game is in your hands now. I really don’t care because ETL is dead
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Post Post #5098 (isolation #242) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:53 pm

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In post 5091, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 5072, davesaz wrote:I'm so fucking close to just posting my role PM and being done with the lot of you.
In post 5074, davesaz wrote:The told you so is going to be so sweet this game. If I bother staying on the site. It's not doing my health any good.
In post 5083, davesaz wrote:
V/LA until June 26.
Anyway i feel like this sequence of posts come from frustrated town, scum would just give up rather than threaten, and i'd think it'd be bad sportsmanship to use these kind of tactics as a survivalist scum anyway.

I kind of agree. But, NKA points towards the remaining scum being a n00b. so far we had ventri, pmatt and MariaR, and the only non-n00b was mariaR
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Post Post #5103 (isolation #243) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:54 pm

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kaede punreader Ankamius myself <—- 0% chance of scum

kokichi Dunnstral <—- 5%

Remaining is:

Daveasz Willy alchemist
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Post Post #5105 (isolation #244) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:55 pm

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Ramcius/YT qualifies as n00b too but their slot has been spewed town all game
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Post Post #5109 (isolation #245) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:57 pm

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In post 5104, Ankamius wrote:if you're towning me off of me being not a n00b

then listen here buddy

nah, pretty sure you’re one of those idiots I called out in my paragraph earlier

but I thought you had enough self respect and fake misplaced ego not to label yourself a n00b

guess I was wrong in that regard
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Post Post #5110 (isolation #246) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:58 pm

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I’m okay with massclaim, but don’t take it from me because I claimed already and so am at no loss
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Post Post #5112 (isolation #247) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:00 pm

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look if punreader is a hider/weak whatever then he must have some clears. Let’s work from there
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Post Post #5114 (isolation #248) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:01 pm

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In post 5111, Ankamius wrote:
In post 5109, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:
In post 5104, Ankamius wrote:if you're towning me off of me being not a n00b

then listen here buddy

nah, pretty sure you’re one of those idiots I called out in my paragraph earlier

but I thought you had enough self respect and fake misplaced ego not to label yourself a n00b

guess I was wrong in that regard
well yeah I'm an idiot

but I'm also a nob

so
well at least you don’t have a fake ego

you’re a good lad
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Post Post #5118 (isolation #249) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:02 pm

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In post 5117, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 5112, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:look if punreader is a hider/weak whatever then he must have some clears. Let’s work from there
The claim is that they're a hider but don't die if they hide behind scum.

that’s pretty broken

it’s like getting one of my quests for free
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Post Post #5119 (isolation #250) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:03 pm

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at least there’s a precedent for broken unkillable bullshit in this game already not courtesy of me
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Post Post #5121 (isolation #251) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:04 pm

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I’m tired and need some time to steam over this

still think lynching dave is the safest option for us to progress, but he at least bought himself some time with that AtE so we can discuss things
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Post Post #5123 (isolation #252) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:05 pm

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We haven’t had any investigatives except my failed d1 daycop and wilky’s bunk slow cop which works even worse than my quest
So, why do we have 2 millers?
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Post Post #5124 (isolation #253) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:06 pm

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Can we look if OtM crumbed who they roleblocker last night?
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Post Post #5210 (isolation #254) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:28 am

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VOTE: davveasz

it's time to move this game forward
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Post Post #5211 (isolation #255) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:30 am

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In post 5190, Punreader wrote:
In post 4918, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Why should i trust pun's VCA even if he's town.
Because if you knew my main, you would know to trust my VCA. I guarantee it.
VCA is bullshit though. unless your main is {Titus, DrippingGoofball, Ellibereth}, i pretty much dont trust VCA. even if you're mastina. ahem


well i didn't want to sound like a party pooper pun but at least you know SOMEBODY reads your posts :)
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Post Post #5212 (isolation #256) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:32 am

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punreader's gimmick beats mine. hands down. by this point i'd already have slipped by using 'scum' instead of 'pun'

in respect of this, i'm upgrading him to REAL MAN status. so, now we have two REAL MEN here, kaede and punreader. while i am the REAL REAL MAN.
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Post Post #5215 (isolation #257) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:38 am

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lets jungle guys
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Post Post #5220 (isolation #258) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:00 am

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In post 5218, davesaz wrote:
In post 5216, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Sigh, whatever im tired of arguing, hope this does flip scum, but if it doesnt, dont come crying to me to magically solve the game.
VOTE: dave
It won't flip scum, and you should have come to me to solve the game not punreader.
Kinda hope scum wins if you lynch me.
honestly, i don't give a fuck. i'm sick of your whining bullshit. tons of people get mislynched every day. suck it up and play better next time if you're town. it's not like we lose if you are somehow town here anyway, so get a fucking grip.
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Post Post #5303 (isolation #259) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 am

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hey, i'm sick of this bullshit. can we hurry up and lynch the fuck of this whining bastard please.

"i suck at mafia" "i have a shitty win rate boo hoo"

no shit he'd be pissed because he's left to carry because his shittier teammates died first!

lets just get a lynch going before we all descend into apathy. TIA.
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Post Post #5304 (isolation #260) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:40 am

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and who gives a shit if he flips town anyway (PS: he probably isnt, but lets have contingencies)

like, would anyone miss this wanker?

we need to move forward folks
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Post Post #5305 (isolation #261) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:43 am

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or we can also afk until deadline then quicklynch a person

that works too
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Post Post #5359 (isolation #262) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:17 am

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hey! today's an easy one. i guess GIF didn't expect my role to live this long! haha!

alchemist just needs to be on the lynch bandwagon. that's it.

reward: his alignment will be copped and sent to a random player
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Post Post #5360 (isolation #263) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:17 am

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VOTE: wilky

i dont understand why the only proper cop in the game is a miller
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Post Post #5422 (isolation #264) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:31 pm

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okay so funny story guys

i dreamt about this game, and, like, i dreamt that we lynched dave and he flipped scum, and we won

but, when i woke up, i knew it was bullshit, because we already lynched dave... and he was town

so fuck
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Post Post #5423 (isolation #265) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:31 pm

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gut says we go here

VOTE: kokichi oma
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Post Post #5508 (isolation #266) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:52 am

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In post 5505, GuyInFreezer wrote:RMOJ failed to respond to a prod and will be replaced.

NO! STOP! MATTE KUDASAI!!
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Post Post #5509 (isolation #267) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:53 am

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In post 5505, GuyInFreezer wrote:RMOJ failed to respond to a prod and will be replaced.

DO NOT REPLACE ME! FUCK!
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Post Post #5531 (isolation #268) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:19 pm

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maybe I’m just sore that you beat me by getting away with a fake guilty as scum!
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Post Post #5579 (isolation #269) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:42 pm

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Hi. I sent a quest to wilky but it didn’t show up. Not sure if mod error or roleblocked.
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Post Post #5580 (isolation #270) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:43 pm

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I want to see results and actions from ounreader and Wiley before I lay my cards on the table.
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Post Post #5581 (isolation #271) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:43 pm

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PUNREADER

WILKY
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Post Post #5600 (isolation #272) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:28 pm

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then why did i see you visiting alchemist last night?

VOTE: punreader
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Post Post #5601 (isolation #273) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:29 pm

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i'm sure we had fun but playtime's over mastina. we can't let you win
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Post Post #5602 (isolation #274) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:30 pm

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In post 5586, wilky wrote:We still don't have a completed quest on d7
zip it bugs bunny 'miller slow cop' you're in absolutely no position to talk
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Post Post #5607 (isolation #275) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:49 am

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well, the thing is, the quest yesterday didnt give a cop on alchemist. the quest prize was actually a one-time watcher. so far, except for day 1 my quest prizes so far have been some protective role of some sort.

i thought it would be cool if i could bait a kill onto a specific person by the scum and watch them; if that person died, i'd see the killer. if that person didn't die, he's probably scum, and, uh, i'd claim the cop thing today as a guilty on that person.

it was a gambit that paid off. the mafia couldn't stand for alchemist being conftown (since they know his alignment and what the result would be) and killed him. they wouldn't kill me either, because i said that the result would go to a random player, which means that they were forced to target alchemist only, to stop the cop result, instead of choosing one of alchemist/me.

also, this points towards ETL being shot day 1 for the no-kill on that day. scum probably tried the same thing. cool that ETLslot had a BP.
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Post Post #5608 (isolation #276) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:50 am

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also, i 'targeted' alchemist with my 'cop' because i actually thought he was most likely to be scum. i'd loved to see him dead and cleared. sorry alchemist!
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Post Post #5623 (isolation #277) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:24 am

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ah jesus damnit, mastina if you're scum here you're good. i didn't actually consider alchemist dying yesterday when i gave the quest and my conftown going to waste so i have no result and no conftown today and that is sad :(

i retract the above, it's just a gambit, now I have doubts that punreader is scum.

however, he's still my top scumread
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Post Post #5624 (isolation #278) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:25 am

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was trying to make the play! because i know mastina is a competent scum player, if scum, and would give some really bad blowback i didn't really want to deal with at this stage of the game and apathy
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Post Post #5626 (isolation #279) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:29 am

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3 points against mastina here.

1) his 2 claims to "towniness" are basically "i double bussed projectmatt and mariaR" and effort = towny. these can be debunked by the following counterarguments:
1a) "double bussing" both burdensome teammates who are of a lower caliber to mastina is definitely within mastina's scumrange
1b) town would actually be apathetic here. who else would put in so much effort except lone wolf scum who is trying their best to solo the game? and beat a good-tier town with the likes of RC and ETL as a bonus? in this case here all the effort punreader is putting in is actually scummy instead of towny.

2) his hider claim is a very convenient claim for scum, if he is for example an ascetic (roleblocker). it explains very well why he cannot be targeted by abilities and also why he isn't dying despite playing so 'towny'.

3) the nightkills have been very systematic and methodical. kill conftowns -> kill strongest players -> leave 'weaker'/scummy players in the game. very safe, very professional. i think mastina could be doing this.
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Post Post #5628 (isolation #280) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:32 am

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i also factored in that i've analyzed all the interactions between flipped scum and the current living players.

everyone has positive interactions = looks towny EXCEPT punreader. this may be confirmation bias but i think i'm right here.

why i'm not dead? because I was hard townreading punreader every single day prior to giving any indication of my suspicion on him today.

also, because i'm lazy. ha.
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Post Post #5629 (isolation #281) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:34 am

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In post 5627, Punreader wrote:
In post 5623, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:ah jesus damnit, mastina if you're scum here you're good. i didn't actually consider alchemist dying yesterday when i gave the quest and my conftown going to waste so i have no result and no conftown today and that is sad :(

i retract the above, it's just a gambit, now I have doubts that punreader is scum.

however, he's still my top scumread
And you wonder why people want to lynch you.
I wish I could let them, but alas.

My goal is to lynch pun, not lynch the players who we wish were pun.
the best players aren't the ones that die early. the best players are the ones that can live till endgame without getting lynched or dying to nightkill and make a larger positive difference to the game

what's the point in being the most 'respected' and admired town player if you get n1'd every game and make a minimal impact?
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Post Post #5630 (isolation #282) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:35 am

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i wish you weren't pun, but i'm pretty sure that you're pun. to the point that i'd fake a guilty on you.

now, you've did well in reducing that 100% confidence to around 90% where i retract that guilty. good job. but i know you're capable of this as vanilla pun, i'm not letting go here.
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Post Post #5631 (isolation #283) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:36 am

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In post 5628, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:i also factored in that i've analyzed all the interactions between flipped scum and the current living players.

everyone has positive interactions = looks towny EXCEPT punreader. this may be confirmation bias but i think i'm right here.

why i'm not dead? because I was hard townreading punreader every single day prior to giving any indication of my suspicion on him today.

also, because i'm lazy. ha.
PS: I only bothered doing this so late in the game because there's only 4 players left. or 5. whatever. it's a number I can count on one hand, my point is.
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Post Post #5632 (isolation #284) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:38 am

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another point against you, is, if the fact that you are pun is true, it's really sleazy to go 'pun must be in the VTs!'

this might be a circular argument though so I didn't include that in my original case.
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Post Post #5633 (isolation #285) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:44 am

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both projectmatt and mariaR gave minimal resistance to punreader's pushes, almost as if they're
letting him
do it. i don't recall them trying to squirm their way out or do something weaselly like what a typical scum would, if caught by town. now' I'd draw an analogy to this to illustrate my point, but the only ones I can think of are 18+.

the point is, I think punreader hard bussed 2 of his teammates for towncred in order to have a shot at winning and to wave it in our faces as the main reason to avoid being lynched, since he has prepared a solid excuse for never getting nightkilled.
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Post Post #5636 (isolation #286) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:50 am

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how do you expect ankamius to treat you the same way in that game as here when in that game you're literally scum partners and over here AT LEAST one of you is town and literally doesnt know the other person's alignment?! LOL!
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Post Post #5638 (isolation #287) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:51 am

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In post 5635, Punreader wrote:
In post 5633, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:both projectmatt and mariaR gave minimal resistance to punreader's pushes, almost as if they're
letting him
do it. i don't recall them trying to squirm their way out or do something weaselly like what a typical scum would, if caught by town.
Distinctly false on both accounts. Both tried; both failed.

evidence please. i'm ISO'd them both and have found no evidence to support this claim.
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Post Post #5639 (isolation #288) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:51 am

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readslists are useless in 1-scum-left scenarios because literally that player is scum or not. since they're excluded from the readslist itself, no meaningful interactions or inferences can be obtained from them at this stage.
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Post Post #5640 (isolation #289) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:53 am

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In post 5635, Punreader wrote:
In post 5628, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:everyone has positive interactions = looks towny EXCEPT punreader. this may be confirmation bias but i think i'm right here.
What.
it means that I have ISOed all remaining living players and believe that they have interactions with flipped scum that are unlikely to be indicative of being scumpartners.
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Post Post #5641 (isolation #290) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:54 am

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of course i'm only human and may be wrong, which is why I'm not going full REAL MEN ham on that fake guilty right now. I guess I'm not a REAL MAN after all!

still think you're the best pick for scum.
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Post Post #5643 (isolation #291) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:57 am

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In post 5634, Punreader wrote:
In post 5625, Punreader wrote:Ankamius
should
know all of this already.

That I wouldn't fakeclaim.
That I am town by play.
That the reasons she's suspicious for me aren't indicative of alignment because they happen literally every game. (Including in mhsmith's game; the number of promises I broke there is quite high.)

As a result, she's a candidate for being pun taking a more arbiter stance.
I should mention that I have a large bias here.

One of the main reasons Ankamius has, consistently, been the VT I've most townread is because of her play in a recent pungame, Minuet's Trio. I felt her comments there, found here and here, indicated that to be her main experience with being pun since returning from hiatus.

Additional reasoning for believing her to be town was how there was a point in the game where our reads were almost
precisely
linked, for similar and yet not identical reasoning. Her stances having been mirrors of my own was an indicator I believed pointed to her being town.

Counterbalancing this, however, is the aforementioned factors above, where she isn't treating me the way I feel she
should
be. Additionally, it did not escape my notice that near the end when projectmatt was at risk of death more seriously, she had what amounted to a flip-out and almost entire read-inversion, where she did essentially everything except advocate for his lynch in spite of previously having done so.

One of the main reasons I wish to get a (re)read of the game is to check that section out again to better define what it means.
so why give special attention to Ankamius instead of Dunnstral who was literally in the same game, and evidently mislynch bait, getting noosed Day 4? because Ankamius was your teammate? Or you don't like Dunnstral very much? hmm? or maybe you're trying to pocket Ankamius and Me, to bring us to endgame while Dunnstral is mislynchable on the table for your path to victory? hmm!
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Post Post #5644 (isolation #292) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:00 am

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In post 5642, Punreader wrote:
In post 5636, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:how do you expect ankamius to treat you the same way in that game as here when in that game you're literally scum partners and over here AT LEAST one of you is town and literally doesnt know the other person's alignment?! LOL!
I'm sorry, what?

I have no clue what you are saying.

To reiterate what I am saying about Ankamius:
I felt her play in Minuet's Trio, a pungame of hers, was
different than here
. Thus a townread.
I felt her reads synchronizing to mine at a point in this game was
indicative of town
. That same thing happened in mhsmith's game.

I have felt doubt on her alignment because she has reversed on the correct pushes at the most inopportune times.
I have felt doubt on her alignment because her reasons for doubting me, for suspecting me, are based around factors she knows from personal experience are not alignment indicative, and quite the opposite, if anything are indicative of town. (Namely, she has seen me do the exact things I am doing this game in mhsmith's game, where she knows I was town.)
Those suspicions may have held some merit when mhsmith's game was ongoing as it was plausible I drew pun in both games thus the similarity between my play in that game and my play in this game.

But then that game ended and it was shown I was town.

Thus the doubt on her alignment.
valid statements. I cannot contest them because I was not in either game and have no intention of reading them

these will be kept in consideration if you happen to be town here.
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Post Post #5646 (isolation #293) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:02 am

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i'd like to hear ankamius's comments on this matter because it appears that she has extensive experience with this particular account and posting style of yours.

it's a pity that
your own reasons
above for doubting ankamius are also not alignment indicative, to some extent.
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Post Post #5647 (isolation #294) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:05 am

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i guess this conversation is pointless after all! after all, i'm convinced that you're pun and that your 're-readthrough' is scum-motivated and you're trying hard because you're pun trying to win solo, and it'll probably be really difficult to change my mind! though you did give me doubts that you were pun, so i wouldn't say that feat is impossible.

i just want to see your slot flipped and dead! it'll also be really good, because, we're 6 at evens and it'll be MYLO which is worse than LYLO, unless I can a protective quest to work and also block a kill, which is tough too
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Post Post #5648 (isolation #295) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:06 am

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basically the protown thing was to 'hide' behind alchemist so you both would have died and we can sort with one less unknown variable in the equation. oh well!
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Post Post #5670 (isolation #296) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:07 am

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In post 5654, Ankamius wrote:The only thing that gives me pause here is that I think Alchemist21 isn't someone you'd exactly be chomping at the bit to kill night 6 (over myself and REALMEN at least, I know you are well aware I can completely solve the game out of nowhere in LyLo or the day before). So you have your shield intact along with your bussing towncred, most of the slots that could see through it are dead, and the slots that are left alive are the ones that were apathetic for most of the game and likely to go wherever the momentum of the day went, giving you options of where you want to push.

Alchemist was killed last night because he was going to become conftown due to successful activation of my quest (his alignment would be sent to a random player in the game) and mastina could not let that happen.
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Post Post #5671 (isolation #297) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:09 am

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In post 5667, wilky wrote:ebwop: At some point today i'm going to have a look at pun/projectmatts interactions. I think maria's interactions with pun won't show to much because maria became caught scum but i'll have a look at interactions pre-caught scum maria and see what I find.

I still want to know what rmoj claims his quest yesterday was now before I go any further on that slot.
i think knowing what my quest does today, i'm going to choose to not reveal the reward.
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Post Post #5676 (isolation #298) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:00 am

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In post 5672, Ankamius wrote:That's the thing, REALMEN. Does she think that's more dangerous than you or myself randomly solving the game?
thats an obvious 'yes', dude. always kill conftowns first, especially in lategame and it's coming to LYLO. we're both
technically
mislynchable.

oh, and alchemist was a PR, so he's definitely dead over me or you

i mean, definitely over you. maybe my PR is cool and i'll die tonight too
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Post Post #5713 (isolation #299) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:43 am

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okay, the only way I allow this change of heart onto punreade (and not lynch him) r is ONLY IF punreader AGREES to hide behind ME tonight, so, if I die ( i probably will) his slot will be cleared and that's one less thing to worry about.

if punreader is scum, however, he can't kill me else it's a scumclaim. then, i'll be alive as conftown to whoop more ass. also, I have more quests to give.
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Post Post #5714 (isolation #300) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:44 am

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mastina is perfectly capable of playing like this to weasel out as scum if she was indeed scum here, btw.
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Post Post #5764 (isolation #301) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:22 am

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i have that feeling that wilky is town but i want to lynch him anyway

still think mastina is probably going to own us if shes scum here if we dont lynch her
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Post Post #5787 (isolation #302) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:56 am

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In post 5776, Ankamius wrote:Being conftown doesn't mean anything if you're never going to lynch correctly in lylo or are less likely to

All it does is make the cross vote obvious
it increases the rand chance of winning from 50% from 33%
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Post Post #5788 (isolation #303) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:58 am

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i still think punreader is scum but i'll vote wilky so that we don't end in a no lynch

i seriously doubt its anka or prof fridays but if its them then its a good job

VOTE: wilky

if i dont die i get more quests

if i die then im glad punreadere goes with me. or is supposed to.
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Post Post #5872 (isolation #304) » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:40 am

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i'm gonna need a little more time to decide this LYLO.

will probably vote dunnstral, but i wanna cover all bases here and take a closer look



(also, so people won't blame me for lolhammering "without reevaluating" if fridays slot is somehow scum here!)
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Post Post #5873 (isolation #305) » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:44 am

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if dunnstral is scum here, i'll have to concede that he's playing a significantly improved game from when he's normally scum. because, normally, he's trash and obviously scum when he did roll scum. so this is a giant improvement. good on him.


i'm going to relook at punreader's analyses he so painstaingly wrote for us, knowing he's town now and not just evil scumastina tryharding because it's scumastina
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Post Post #5880 (isolation #306) » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:41 pm

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alright then, it appears that there is nothing else to discuss.

VOTE: Dunnstral

MANHAMMER!
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Post Post #5937 (isolation #307) » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:22 pm

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while YT and Prof Fridays played an excellent game, and certainly deserve a win, it was purely my fault for why town lost the game.

gut was screaming to lynch Fridays, but i was afraid that would result in a major laughably comedic throw if Dunnstral was indeed scum (and it was indeed that easy), and then i'd be lynched postgame too

thus, in a cruel twist of irony, i lost the game for you guys because I was NOT a REAL MAN.

because of this, i deserve to have my testicles violently ripped out from between my legs, chopped into minuscule pieces with a butcher's cleaver, fried in a mixture of acid and olive oil, then fed to pigs, which are probably more MANLY than I am.

i'm trash therefore i will quit mafia.
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Post Post #5938 (isolation #308) » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:28 pm

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but it was commendable that all 3 players Ramcius, YT and Prof played really well. by far, the most suspicious player in that slot itself was Ramcius, and HE was the one doing all that distancing work. yikes
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