SUPP 2017 Mafia, Mod Thread
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SUPP 2017 Mafia, Mod Thread
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Papa Zito - Today at 6:03 AM
can I be vig
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Spoiler: Town Roles
Spoiler: Scum
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Some of the design ideas behind the setup:
I like making setups where power is distributed thinly, with some weakening modifiers to most of the heavy hitters. That shows in both scum and town. The tracker power is split among two people, for example. T-Bone was the first role I designed and one of my favorites. I also like having roles that do nothing but introduce a bit of minor chaos (that way there's a sense of "oh, this is a unique role" but for balance it can end up throwing a wrench in any faction), and that lends itself sometimes to some fun synergies. In this case, Nahdia, for example.
The numbers and generally weak town necessitated a weak scum. Equinox's purpose is essentially to protect SleepyKrew if BPC decides to kill him, but the options are left open for other potential uses. Skrew and Chevre are generally weak roles and EP's powers are gated awkwardly.
Cheetory gave me by far the most trouble in setup design. I went through numerous iterations, but from the beginning I knew I wanted him to be a third party. I also wanted to make it so that people would see the third party and go, "yeah, that was fine." Essentially something that had minimal potential to frustrate. Striking a perfect balance between that and making it a fun role to play was hard but I think I came pretty close. I made him a Serial Killer that was significantly weaker but had a significantly easier win condition.
As for some of the flavor choices: Zito's a vig because he likes vigs. RC's a doc because he likes docs. I considered making zoraster a VT for laughs, and settled on what was basically that. Whoever was scum was generated randomly before the setup was made, and I wrote the flavor around that.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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it combines the votes into one
that counts as two votes
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Spoiler: no longer needed, spoilerLast edited by Errantparabola on Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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Creating scum thread -- DONE, DONE.
Creating Chip neighborhood -- DONE
Creating tracker neighborhood -- DONE
Give implosion access to everything -- DONE
Give specs access to this thread -- DONE
Now updating Role PMs... DONE.Last edited by Errantparabola on Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:24 pm, edited 5 times in total.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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16. Vaxkiller -- Papa Zito
10. TwoInAMillion -- Bins
1. TehBrawlGuy -- lalaladucks
5. DeasVail -- Sudo_Nym
14. Chara -- Firebringer
4. MariaR -- T-Bone
2. Taly -- Nahdia
7. Dunnstral -- BPC
18. NicoRobin -- Vi
17. PenguinPower -- Shadoweh
15. Srceenplay -- Psyche
13. ReubenWasFine -- RadiantCowbells
11. Shoshin -- zoraster
6. Espeonage -- SleepyKrew
12. Fire Assassin -- Errantparabola
8. ActionDan -- Equinox
9. the worst -- Chevre
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Welcoming our SPECTATORS:
1. lalaladucks
2. Cheetory6
3. Regfan
4. beeboy
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players in the game.
edited to clarify thank you
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misclicked on the autocomplete and now Taly has a role PM with the subject line "SUPP 2017 Mafia, Mod Thread"did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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Fire Assassin wrote:
This would be a very very terrible mafia team for the record.Errantparabola wrote:SleepyKrew
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worst is in a good position
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Spoiler: DEASVAIL
Spoiler: NAHDIA
Spoiler: ESPEONAGE
Spoiler: THE WORST
Spoiler: PUNREADER
Spoiler: VAXKILLER
Spoiler: TALY
Spoiler: CHARA
Spoiler: DUNNSTRAL
Spoiler: SRCEENPLAYdid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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Spoiler: NICOROBIN
Spoiler: MARIAR
Spoiler: PENGUINPOWER
Spoiler: FIRE ASSASSIN
Spoiler: TEH BRAWL GUY
Spoiler: Shoshin
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EP beats Papa Zito.
BPC (Dunnstral) gains the power.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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Here are some fun stats for yall.
Top ranks:
Chara, at 7.83, with 9 tens and 1 zero. In SUPP 2018 they would have placed 3rd, trailing behind Kison by .01 of a point.
the worst, at 6.78, with 1 ten and no zeroes. In SUPP 2018 he would have placed 14th. beating out the Brocbois N, Psyche, and DeasVail.
Taly, at 6.33, with 7 tens and 2 zeroes. In SUPP 2018 he would have placed 24th, barely beating Drench.
No zeroes:
the worst and Dunnstral both received no zeroes.
Best reads:
TehBrawlGuy gave the scumteam an average ranking of 3. The highest score he gave scum was a 6 to Nahdia.
Taly gave the scumteam an average ranking of 3.5. The highest score he gave scum was a 9 to the worst.
Srceenplay gave the scumteam an average ranking of 4.25. The highest score he gave scum was a 7 to the worst.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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As a last order of business, Welcome lovebird and nicorobin to the mod thread.
N1 ACTIONS
Punreader: targets Pine
Chara - befriends Maria
DeasVail - fruits Nahdia
Srceenplay - feedbacks Taly and worst
Dunnstral - NKimmune Espeonage
TBG/Pine - track Dunnstral
nahdia - kills Taly
MariaR - cops vax
People who can act:
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18 players.In post 34, lalaladucks wrote:new game 2018 SUPP mafia
whoever rolls EP instantly wins.
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Rating Volunteered: 9
Explanation Volunteered: "Would've been a 10 if I was put as a role in the SUPP game ;o"did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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No worries about the rankings. Sorry about not getting to play, it's sad people gave you low scores just for your predecessor's inactivity. Thanks for replacing in regardless.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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N1 RESOLUTIONS
Chara 7.83
the worst 6.78
Taly 6.33
TehBrawlGuy 5.94
Dunnstral 5.78
Nahdia 5.67
Espeonage 5.22
DeasVail 5.22
MariaR 5.11
Shoshin 5.00
Punreader 4.68
Pine 4.67
Srceenplay 4.56
Fire Assassin 4.44
Vaxkiller 3.89
PenguinPower 3.83
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this is a really fun night.
Punreader: targets Pine --> KILLS PINE by 0.01, jeez
Chara - befriends Maria --> RESOLVES, inform Maria about this, loses one shot.
DeasVail - fruits Nahdia --> RESOLVES, inform Nahdia about this
Srceenplay - feedback Taly and worst --> RESOLVES, inform Taly and Worst about this
Dunnstral - NKimmune Espeonage --> inform Espeonage about this and resolve TOMORROW
TBG/Pine - track Dunnstral --> RESOLVES, Dunnstral visits NO ONE because it does not resolve
nahdia - kills Taly --> DOES NOT RESOLVE, resolves tomorrow
MariaR - cops vax --> RESOLVES, tell Maria that vax is town, loses ATK/SPD shot.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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I'm not gonna lie, I'm a bit worried -- everything possible has worked out badly for town here.
Taly dies.
Say Pun kills town.
Say Vax kills town.
Say scum kills town.
Say town mislynches.
Then Day 3: it's gonna be 5 town, 4 scum, 1 3p.
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and yeah she was being... preeeetty transparent here. And it's a crying shame you died, like if someone had given you one more point or two, you'd have escaped the claws of certain death.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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do not worry, worst, the sword of Damocles hangs over his head, drawing ever nearer.
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wtf is happening in this gamedid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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I doubt this bus lasts to endgame
Or at least: the bus is definitely not airtight. they're giving off some tells imodid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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Just for fun, the rankings correspond to:
1. Firebringer
2. Chevre
3. Nahdia
4. lalaladucks
5. BipolarChemist
6. Equinox
7. SleepyKrew
8. Sudo_Nym
9. T-Bone
10. zoraster
11. Cheetory6
12. Bins
13. Psyche
14. Errantparabola
15. Papa Zito
16. Shadoweh
17. Vi
18. RadiantCowbellsdid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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two people are shooting commander shepard and he's not gonna diedid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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1. TehBrawlGuy -> gonna die
2. Taly -> gonna die
3. Punreader --> shoots Shepard
4. MariaR --> can't do anything today
5. DeasVail --> visits shoshin
6. Espeonage --> is NK immune just tonight
7. Dunnstral --> nothing
8. Commander Shepard --> bulletproof for tonight and redirects everything targeting fire, kills TBG
9. the worst --> nothing
11. Shoshin --> zoraster
12. Fire Assassin --> has 1 soul
14. Chara --> has one friend shot
15. ManWithNoName --> connects dunn and pun
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I think people who accuse my setups of being townsided (there always are people) need to consider at least one of the following:
1) scum have won in almost all of my setups (and still complain)
2) i consistently give town a lot of awkward and slow powers
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and i would have to be strongly incentivized NOT to give scum daytalk because a lot of people hate rolling scum and daytalk i think makes playing scum a lot more inherently fun, and people might have less of a bad time with itdid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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Nominate Punreader for NK Immune Miller Vigdid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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I’m not so sure about that, although it’s a fair assessment considering that the nightplay fell mostly towards scum’s favor.
But Pun and Shepard and Fire making it to endgame would shock me.
I think the bus unravels after Fire flips- it’s Espe’s literal only contribution for the past dozens of pages and is a fairly detectable bus once Fire flips. the worst is endgame material but is losing a bit of steam as well, IMO.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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shep trying to call the cop innno scumdid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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Shepard is misreading his role PM.
He isn’t 1-shot bulletproof, he’s 1-night activated full bulletproof. Do you think there was ambiguity in this role pm?did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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this game is pretty closed to solved but the town lacks leadersdid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.--implosion
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i have prodded some people like 5 times but i know that replacing them will be even harder on both me and the game so i'm not going to
im not a fan of the 3-prods and youre replaced rule so i dont have it and i am thanking myself nowdid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.--implosion
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The thread was locked because deadline was reached (that is, deadline + 24)did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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3. Punreader --> Spreads to SHOSHIN --> SHOSHIN is higher than Punreader --> Shoshin is infected
4. MariaR --> Takes NO ACTION
5. DeasVail --> Kittifies KRAZY
6. Espeonage --> Takes NO ACTION
7. Dunnstral --> Takes NO ACTION
8. Commander Shepard --> Kills MARIA
9. the worst --> Takes NO ACTION (Has one Psyche shot)
11. Shoshin --> Takes NO ACTION
12. Fire Assassin --> Has 1 soul --> Roleblocks Vax --> Has 0 souls
14. Krazy --> Friendifies DV (has no shots remaining)
15. guacamole --> Feedbackifies PUN and MARIA
16. Vaxkiller --> Takes NO ACTION
Results:
Shoshin infected (currently only person)
MariaR dead (Shepard gains the following abilities):
DeasVail and Krazy have joint control of a double vote + neither can act next night + any actions that target them target both.
Krazy receives the cat message.
Feedback does NOT take effect. Maria is dead.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.--implosion
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Maria straight up did not submit a night action out of sheer apathydid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.--implosion
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Because a hammer was achieveddid another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.--implosion
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makes sense. i was just worried about the ambiguitiy.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.--implosion
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3. Punreader --> Spreads to FA -> FA is kilt
5. DeasVail --> Kittifies WORST
6. Espeonage --> Kills DUNNSTRAL
7. Dunnstral --> Takes NO ACTION
9. the worst --> Feedbackifies SELF and PUN
11. Shoshin --> Takes NO ACTION
12. Fire Assassin --> Has 1 soul --> Roleblocks Vax --> Has 0 souls
14. Krazy --> Takes NO ACTION (linked to DV)
15. guacamole --> Takes NO ACTION
16. Vaxkiller --> Takes NO ACTION
Results:
Shoshin infected (currently only person)did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.--implosion
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and it all unravelsIn post 2951, Punreader wrote:I hate to break it to you all who are trying to mislynch the worst, but guacamole connected the worst and I together today and he roleclaimed in his message to me well before his roleclaim out here.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.--implosion
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I don't expect Espe to be here to submit a nightkill. My only real option here is to let it play out like that (this was confirmed by implosion)
Which kind of sucks.did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!
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