Mini 2028: SSBUPick [And The Winner Is...]

[DoubtingThomas]

sup bois i am in town!

have been away for a while so just checking up now; hopefully i didnt miss much

[DoubtingThomas]

I believe Enigma

LETS ACTUALLY GET A REAL WAGON GOING ON SCUM PLEASE KTHX

here let me start a wagon on you then

VOTE: fate

[DoubtingThomas]

Uh, hello?

I didn't say "I'm town"

I said "I am in town" as in like Lebron from downtown; DT is in town?

how is that forced...

[DoubtingThomas]

I am going to think everyone is scummy who is trying to misrepresent me by saying i said "i am town" when it literally says "i am in town"

are you guys not familiar with the american slangs or just mafias trying to frame me for something stupid?

either way it's terrible.

and Fate. please. your hyper-aggro does not work on me. I, too, am a hypo-aggro'er. just wait until i open my BANKAI to wreck you.

[DoubtingThomas]

Thats not why anyone's said you're scum

then again I havent really read the thread thoroughly...

It really is the reason.

It's funny that you were the main candidate pushing me and maria for being the same team cuz i was 'so' scummy

So you are telling me you didnt really read why i was scummy but just wanted me to be scummy so you can push me and maria together?

thanks for outing yourself, scum.

VOTE: fate

please vote. this guy is just mafia.

[DoubtingThomas]

I am going to think everyone is scummy who is trying to misrepresent me by saying i said "i am town" when it literally says "i am in town"

are you guys not familiar with the american slangs or just mafias trying to frame me for something stupid?

either way it's terrible.

and Fate. please. your hyper-aggro does not work on me. I, too, am a hypo-aggro'er. just wait until i open my BANKAI to wreck you.

for me, it was your second post that looked forced. can you answer my question.

do you want to quote your question instead of just saying answer my question?

who do you think you are ordering me to answer your questions when you don't even have the generosity to simply re-ask your question?

do you think i need to go dig 5 pages and locate your question just for you?

is it that difficult to just re-ask?

[DoubtingThomas]

the question is kinda redundant now youve voted fate for the second time

what was the question that gets answered by me repeating my vote on fate? why ask a question if it's answered by me repeating the same exact action?

[DoubtingThomas]

Thats not why anyone's said you're scum

then again I havent really read the thread thoroughly...

It really is the reason.

It's funny that you were the main candidate pushing me and maria for being the same team cuz i was 'so' scummy

So you are telling me you didnt really read why i was scummy but just wanted me to be scummy so you can push me and maria together?

thanks for outing yourself, scum.

VOTE: fate

please vote. this guy is just mafia.

Fate is the reason I don't want to lynch you so I'll have to pass.

why is that? why does the person i think is the most scummy make you not want to lynch me (implied that you believe he is a town because u refuse to vote him ig)

[DoubtingThomas]

I believe Enigma

LETS ACTUALLY GET A REAL WAGON GOING ON SCUM PLEASE KTHX

here let me start a wagon on you then

VOTE: fate

is this a serious vote?

it wasn't, but now it obviously is because his logic and reaction is poor afterwards

[DoubtingThomas]

Can you guys smell the awful scent of scum in that Maria wagon?

Yes, the wagon that started with random votes and took off with Fate pushing me and Maria together?

Check the votes out. It's clearly agenda driven.

[DoubtingThomas]

Dont fuck up my Maria wagon by flailing like this D_T

What are you talking about

I was never on Maria

Why would I care if that wagon topples?, scum.

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: popo
I think you would've voted DT right away if you thought it was forced instead of asking a question on a fate vote of all thing.

i thought about it a little

what do you think thomas's entrance to the game?

I can see how it's a little cringe/bland but I don't like the jump on we've had already so I'm gonna to just let DT post some more and see where it goes. I don't really think "cringe" means it can be only from scum given first game in a long time from town can be a bit weird too.

this is a good point.

let's forget that i actually never said, 'i am town'

just because it's cringe, doesn't make it wolfy.

if wolves are this stupid, town would win every time.

unless you guys think i have an IQ of an Orangutan. Sure, vote me and lose. ok.

[DoubtingThomas]

Wow, Nico. I think the posts you are making right now don't convince me that you are town, at all.

[DoubtingThomas]

Maria wagon contains two votes from RVS, and then Fate pushed some random scum read on me and maria being team to vote her and someone follwed him.

except the thing is he never even 'properly' read the post to correctly understand why i was being scum read (over a misunderstanding/misrepresentation of a phrase i said)

he acknowledged it himself, which the action itself makes him look townie, but his motive essentially was to push both me and maria under a scum agenda

[DoubtingThomas]

DT's got some spunk all of a sudden. What's your opinion of me, DT, considering I'm the only one still voting you and was (I think) the first person to call your posts forced?

Uh

idk

i dont really care about who votes me if they dont got a case on me

i guess. i wanna see your case so i can see if you are scum motivated in your vote or not

[DoubtingThomas]

That wasn't a good explanation I lost my train of thought.

I think Fate would buss DT if they were together but I Townread Fate and therefore don't believe in a DT Fate team. It would be pretty good scum theatre if they were. With multiball in play I dunno it kind of skews my Fate read a bit, I'd have to go back through fates posts to change my mind.

wow so you are telling me you are

1)hard town reading fate over like first 5 pages

2)believe he would bus me (for reasons i dont really know...?)

3)think i was townie because you read fate town?

wait... this ... logic really doesnt make sense?

it sounds like you are just making up reasons to not vote me?

like. just because fate would bus me (who neither of you know), that doesnt really say much about our alignment...

and for that to be your sole reason to not vote me? i think that's really super weird of a logic and i dont buy it. i feel like you already have enough information to kind of assume i was town and came up with some random excuse to not vote me.

idk what to make of a town completely being oblivious about the fact that it's a multi ball and playing the game like that for 8 pages.... lol

[DoubtingThomas]

Well, my case was that I called your posts forced, which is where you got traction in the first place, and what you've been getting angry about when you attacked Fate.

i mean, your thoughts on my post being forced is mostly from me saying, "i am town" when that's not even true, so it's not a really strong case at all, is it.


what do you mean 'what you've been getting angry about when you attacked Fate.'?


also, saying stuff like, "which is where you got traction in the first place" sound pretty scummy. like it sounds like you are trying to imply part of the reason why you voted me is because others were voting me which is what scums do. try to mislynch people when townies are trying to vote that person.

[DoubtingThomas]

That wasn't a good explanation I lost my train of thought.

I think Fate would buss DT if they were together but I Townread Fate and therefore don't believe in a DT Fate team. It would be pretty good scum theatre if they were. With multiball in play I dunno it kind of skews my Fate read a bit, I'd have to go back through fates posts to change my mind.

wow so you are telling me you are

1)hard town reading fate over like first 5 pages

2)believe he would bus me (for reasons i dont really know...?)

3)think i was townie because you read fate town?

wait... this ... logic really doesnt make sense?

it sounds like you are just making up reasons to not vote me?

like. just because fate would bus me (who neither of you know), that doesnt really say much about our alignment...

and for that to be your sole reason to not vote me? i think that's really super weird of a logic and i dont buy it. i feel like you already have enough information to kind of assume i was town and came up with some random excuse to not vote me.

idk what to make of a town completely being oblivious about the fact that it's a multi ball and playing the game like that for 8 pages.... lol

If I were scum and you were town I honestly wouldn't care, you would hang yourself at some point.

1. Not a hard Townread but a Townread yes. Toogeloo is my top town fwiw.

2. Yes if you buss a teammate you buss an aggressive one....aggressively. just my read on his playstyle and yours to a lesser degree.

3. I think you are not with Fate because I believe Fate to be town, I said I wouldn't lynch you not that I believe you are town.

I also wasn't oblivious to the multiball aspect, I forgot. I have a couple other games and a lot more on my plate, it happens.

So, Fate is not even voting me right now. so i dont think he's even 'aggressively bussing me'

And, I still don't understand your logic of, "You are not with Fate because Fate is town" The two are not mutually exclusive, and super weird for you to so quickly conclude all these assumptions so early in the d1, "making up your mind"

you know who "make up their mind" early in the game, scums.

that's why they push their agendas. all. the. time.

[DoubtingThomas]

I also like Maria's posts. They all seem pretty genuine and actually make good points to some of the posts. It seems like the questions she raise in the midst of her reading iso's are also genuine.

[DoubtingThomas]

what do you mean 'what you've been getting angry about when you attacked Fate.'?

You attacked Fate because he endorsed the fact that your posts felt forced, when I was actually the first person to say it. So my question is why are you getting angry at him, but not me?

also, saying stuff like, "which is where you got traction in the first place" sound pretty scummy. like it sounds like you are trying to imply part of the reason why you voted me is because others were voting me which is what scums do. try to mislynch people when townies are trying to vote that person.

I was the first vote on you, so I followed no one.

1) not really why i was 'angry' with him. i attacked fate because he apparently didn't even know why i was being scum read, but scum read me (following consensus) and used that to pair me up with another person. that's scummy. that's agenda driven.

2) eh i wasnt really referring to whether or not you voted first or second. i was just saying that you adding a phrase like that that is unnecessary kinda sound sketchy.

[DoubtingThomas]

Just finished a game with DT on a dif site my townread stays strong

can you tell me who you are

it's not fair if only you know it and i don't!!!

[DoubtingThomas]

Just finished a game with DT on a dif site my townread stays strong

can you tell me who you are

it's not fair if only you know it and i don't!!!

Chelsea

LOL.

hi friend

[DoubtingThomas]

I am pretty comfortable with Maria then

I am getting good town vibes from her and I hope we continue our streak of finding each other game after game

So far I think her posts were really good, and especially her reaction to Fate's hard pressure seemed very good.

I am ready to s h e e e e e e e e e p her

[DoubtingThomas]

Check out my previous games if you don't believe me. In 90% of them I was inactive as town and active as scum. Which of those does my play this game fall under?

Just catching up and I already hate this. Idc if this flips town because this is actual dipshit.

Believe as you will.

Honey this is a game of deduction and deceiving

Like you are doing neither of those and just telling people, "I am town because this is how I act when I am town"

ok

[DoubtingThomas]

why would i study your play extensively if you are just one of many people that are going to encounter me? especially when even if you are town you are not helping me find mafias?

do you understand what you are saying and how childish it is?

[DoubtingThomas]

All you did this game was tell people that you are so clearly town (which, obviously many disagree with)

and you tell others to 'study your play extensively' so that they can figure out how you are town

yet you haven't done ANYTHING to figure anyone else out in the game. you did 0 studying of others, but you are telling others to do it so you can be town read

this is just lazy and no effort, and I really dont know what to make of it

I am here to play a game of Mafia

not play the Figure Out Nico is Town or Mafia Game

[DoubtingThomas]

I will drop this matter of Nico.

I don't think we are getting anywhere. I just hope Nico will start to find actual scums.

[DoubtingThomas]

DT's got some spunk all of a sudden. What's your opinion of me, DT, considering I'm the only one still voting you and was (I think) the first person to call your posts forced?

Uh

idk

i dont really care about who votes me if they dont got a case on me

i guess. i wanna see your case so i can see if you are scum motivated in your vote or not

lol
I think this was THE guy who said the "I'm in town" thing was scummy
DT/Toog team?

didn't he say he misread that? and a lot of other people joined him and then backed out after I slam dunked the truth to their faces?

not sure why you are being overly picky about this fact when the misrepresentation of my post really applies to a lot of other people as well

really seems

opportunistic

for you to point this out, hmm?

[DoubtingThomas]

Gamma going around everyone asking why he is a low scum read when he hasn't done much to be town read sounds like a nervous kitty who wants its master's approval

bad bad look

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: popo
I think you would've voted DT right away if you thought it was forced instead of asking a question on a fate vote of all thing.

i thought about it a little

what do you think thomas's entrance to the game?

Like this is the response I would have expected when asking what you were asking
Why didn't you think of it yourself?
@Kuroi do you agree with what I think it says about Nico's alignment (that Nico is probably scum)?
also VOTE: DoubtingThomas I feel best about this

I really dislike it when people start the post and talk about other people

and then end the post with a vote on someone else without much explanation on the vote itself

I think these kind of posts are scum indicative

[DoubtingThomas]

Really disliking Gamma's overall tone

Sounds very 'all over the place' and hasty. poking around here and there, asking questions that's not really scum hunting but futile, like "why am i your scum read???"

And somehow nit picking one post to put me on a team with someone? even though this kind of analysis kinda applies to many others?

Sounds very agenda driven.

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: popo
I think you would've voted DT right away if you thought it was forced instead of asking a question on a fate vote of all thing.

i thought about it a little

what do you think thomas's entrance to the game?

I can see how it's a little cringe/bland but I don't like the jump on we've had already so I'm gonna to just let DT post some more and see where it goes. I don't really think "cringe" means it can be only from scum given first game in a long time from town can be a bit weird too.

this is a good point.

let's forget that i actually never said, 'i am town'

just because it's cringe, doesn't make it wolfy.

if wolves are this stupid, town would win every time.

unless you guys think i have an IQ of an Orangutan. Sure, vote me and lose. ok.

Why are you flipping out so hard about this?

Jesus christ, so this kid gives me shit when I try to get the past over with by no longer mentioning the scum reads i have gotten from my initial post,

but then now he's questioning me why i am "flipping" so hard? I think the points you are making and the questions you are asking about me are just not using the same standards.

Also, all I am doing there is agreeing with what Maria said, which was the first person to actually be somewhat reasonable for once regarding my post

and all I said was "wow do these people think i am so stupid? ok vote me and lose" and you are trying to shade and misrepresent me by saying i am "flipping out so hard"

lol.

[DoubtingThomas]

I also really hate how DT says he's OK with sheeping. Even if he's willing to sheep the confirmed townie, it doesn't mean the townie is any good at scum hunting.

If you're sheeping someone, it means you're not scumhunting and if you're not scumhunting, it either means you don't care about this game. Or more likely, perhaps you already know who scum is.

me saying i'd sheep is just kinda expression to show how much i love chelsea

if you look at my votes i am still persistent in my push for fate.

altho i think him not acknowledging my push and doing his own thing is making him look a bit townie and i dislike nico so i might move my vote

[DoubtingThomas]

still waiting on Gamma to respond my posts to conclude my thoughts on him.

[DoubtingThomas]

also VOTE: DoubtingThomas I feel best about this

Bad vote

Why is it a bad vote?

i agree it's bad post for not really explaining, but i think he's shown at least suspicion for me and a lot of others think i am scummy so idk why it's necessarily a bad vote. could you explain?

[DoubtingThomas]

the whole, "you sr me when you are scum and tr me when i am town" or whatever is super weird

probably super weird to reaffirm my town read on maria

and for kookichi to say he'd town read maria for that is townish i think because it's a really weird logic that i feel scums would be a little scared to accept easily and town read someone for

[DoubtingThomas]

Jesus christ, so this kid gives me shit when I try to get the past over with by no longer mentioning the scum reads i have gotten from my initial post,

but then now he's questioning me why i am "flipping" so hard? I think the points you are making and the questions you are asking about me are just not using the same standards.

Also, all I am doing there is agreeing with what Maria said, which was the first person to actually be somewhat reasonable for once regarding my post

and all I said was "wow do these people think i am so stupid? ok vote me and lose" and you are trying to shade and misrepresent me by saying i am "flipping out so hard"

lol.

Um, that kind of thing is flipping out? "Vote me and lose" is classic fearmongering scum play. Why are you in the mindset that your lynch loses town the game if you're town? You can't have that good of a role, and if you did this would be a horribly designed game. As such there no reason for anyone to think your lynch would lose the game.
Though tbh this COULD be a newb tell, is this your first time playing?

not my first time, but I am pretty new to forum mafia in general, although I am getting a lot more games under my belt recently, my first game was in mid july

@MariaR might be able to attest this (maybe not) my first game was Manti's wild west game i think i remember seeing u there

[DoubtingThomas]

altho i think him not acknowledging my push and doing his own thing is making him look a bit townie and i dislike nico so i might move my vote

I'm not buying this at all. Sheeping is a well known figure of speech in the Mafia community as following someone's vote because of some level of trust. I have

never

heard someone heard sheeping being used as, "I love this guy!" Not in the Mafia games. Not in the MS community. Not even at band camp.

So yeah, this post is full of it.

I think you are more full of it when you are trying to assume what another person wanted to mean by a certain phrase they used.

People are different and if you really want to classify what I MEANT when I SAID something, then go ahead, but I don't have much to say about this issue

Anyone who can tell me who posted the tag I fixed, is greatly appreciated.
-Kor

[DoubtingThomas]

I am just a radical mind. I am different from the norm, and I understand when people have hard time understanding that or accepting it.

That's just the person I am at I write fun stuff in a unique way and I guess people can scum read me for it.

That's your choice and I am not gonna fight you over it, but I will explain what I meant by it and I beg you not to say stuff like, "this guy's full of it" or "I don't buy it"

i dont care i am not here to sell you my game.

[DoubtingThomas]

Btw, guys, I will have wisdom teeth surgery tomorrow and, consequently, will have to relax and play less mafia.

Be prepared to see me less for a couple days, especially with classes starting next week :/. I will try to keep track of the thread tho.

V/LA noted, however, for future reference, please mark your V/LAs.
GL with surgery as well!
-Kor

[DoubtingThomas]

I thought popopo might have been a good vote, but they have a huge wagon already. Which, considering its a multi ball, is quite concerning.

Hoping to re read and try to come up with more reads on others in two to three days

Also wanna see what nico’s sub is gonna do iguess