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Post Post #2035  (isolation #200)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:28 pm

nooooooo
tw why do I insist on scumreading you regardless of your alignment
idk how to be productive this twilight but thank you tw for sharing so much

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Post Post #2036  (isolation #201)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:30 pm

It's just Reundo
He has 100 less posts than the next least-active living player, nsg.
But I'm sure we'll put in the work tomorrow just to be sure
sigh I had already downloaded all our avatars to start working on a "dunked on scum!tw!!1!" photoshop funtime

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Post Post #2071  (isolation #202)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:17 am

NSG's last words were to not let Toranaga make it to endgame
Seems like others will be casing Keyser and Reundo first so I'm gonna do Tora first - I will be surprised if I find him to be the best lynch, but someone's gotta honor nsg's legacy or whatever

I do think we ought to be thorough enough to examine me/nauci/eragon closer... We've all been riding towncred from early anti-associational moments that may or may not deserve the full townreads we've received. It would be nice if we could be sure on all three of our slots, though.

Slightly disappointed to be here this game day, I was hoping I could watch nsg solve the game from the dead thread

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Post Post #2074  (isolation #203)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:43 am

mm interesting theory
but if the vt isn't scum
then we should probably lynch the scum

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Post Post #2075  (isolation #204)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:56 am

Spoiler: "Colored Votecounts", or "Whereby Nauci is 100% Cleared"
In post 38, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.01

2 718281828459 (2) - Keyser Söze , Poseidon
Irrelephant11 (2) - Ausuka , 2 718281828459
GameNBurger (1) - volxen
Keyser Söze (1) - Sesq
Dunnstral (1) - Irrelephant11

Not voting: Dunnstral, GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Reundo

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - Just as a reminder, if the day were to end now 2 718281828459 would be lynched.

In post 77, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.02

Keyser Söze (2) - Sesq , Reundo
Irrelephant11 (2) - Ausuka , 2 718281828459
Reundo (1) - Keyser Söze
GameNBurger (1) - volxen
2 718281828459 (1) - Poseidon
Dunnstral (1) - Irrelephant11

Not voting: Dunnstral, GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - Now and always, please let me know if I've gotten anything wrong.

In post 100, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.03

Keyser Söze (3) - Sesq , Reundo , 2 718281828459
2 718281828459 (2) - Poseidon , Keyser Söze
GameNBurger (1) - volxen
Irrelephant11 (1) - Ausuka
Dunnstral (1) - Irrelephant11

Not voting: Dunnstral, GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - With 12 players, it would take 7 votes to hammer someone and possibly end the day early. (Just realized I forgot to say this before, sorry.)
    - Kop has picked up his role PM, so his prod timers will proceed as normal. (Also realized I forgot to mention this, doubly-sorry.)
    - Finally, some friendly advice: Please read the pronouns of all the other players, and do your best to remember them and use them properly.

In post 130, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.04

Keyser Söze (3) - Sesq , Reundo , 2 718281828459
2 718281828459 (2) - Keyser Söze , Irrelephant11
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
GameNBurger (1) - volxen
Irrelephant11 (1) - Ausuka

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Poseidon

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 150, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.05

Reundo (3) - Ausuka , Keyser Söze , Irrelephant11
Keyser Söze (2) - Reundo , 2 718281828459
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
GameNBurger (1) - volxen

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Poseidon , Sesq

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - Reundo and Dunnstral have been prodded. They have (expired on 2018-08-27 09:02:16) to post before I start searching for their replacements.

In post 178, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.06

Reundo (3) - Ausuka , Keyser Söze , Irrelephant11
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo
GameNBurger (1) - volxen

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, Toranaga , Sesq , 2 718281828459

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - Searching for Reundo's replacement. If he posts here before I find someone, he can stay in the game.
    - The colors in post are difficult to read in mafSepia. Please try to use colors that work for both the light and dark colored board themes.

In post 203, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.07

2 718281828459 (2) - Irrelephant11 , Kop
Reundo (2) - Ausuka , Keyser Söze
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo
[GameNBurger] (1) - volxen

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga , Sesq , 2 718281828459

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 230, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.08

volxen (4) - Reundo , Irrelephant11 , Sesq , Keyser Söze
2 718281828459 (1) - Kop
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal
Reundo (1) - Ausuka
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
[GameNBurger] (1) - volxen

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga , 2 718281828459

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 251, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.09

volxen (5) - Reundo , Irrelephant11 , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Ausuka
2 718281828459 (2) - Kop , volxen
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga , 2 718281828459

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - If anyone else would like to try finding a replacement for GameNBurger's slot, I'd really appreciate it.

In post 279, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.10

volxen (4) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Ausuka
[2 718281828459] (2) - Kop , volxen
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral

Not voting: the worst, Toranaga , [2 718281828459]

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - @the worst: I'm planning on pausing the deadline at 48 hours to the end of Day 1 until the other replacement is found, if necessary. Is that fine, or do you want more or an extension?

In post 344, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.11

Sesq (4) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , the worst , volxen
volxen (4) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Ausuka
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
[2 718281828459] (1) - Kop

Not voting: Toranaga , [2 718281828459]

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - Ausuka has been prodded. She has (expired on 2018-09-02 10:23:45) to post before I start searching for her replacement.
    - @northsidegal: After deliberation, I have decided to stick to my original deadline extension of pausing at 48 hours until the last replacement is filled (if necessary).

In post 351, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.12

Sesq (5) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , the worst , volxen , Ausuka
volxen (3) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Kop

Not voting: Toranaga , Huntress

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - Just to be clear, post does not count as an unvote, due to broken formatting.

In post 395, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.13

Sesq (5) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , the worst , volxen , Ausuka
volxen (3) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: Toranaga

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 411, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.14

volxen (6) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Toranaga , the worst , Ausuka
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , volxen
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: N/A

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - @Keyser Soze: The deadline in this vote count and the first post of the thread are both current and accurate.

In post 428, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.15

volxen (6) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Toranaga , the worst , Ausuka
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , volxen
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: N/A

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 456, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.16

volxen (6) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Toranaga , the worst , Ausuka
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , volxen
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: N/A

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 476, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.17

volxen (6) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Toranaga , the worst , Ausuka
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , volxen
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: N/A

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 501, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.18

volxen (6) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Toranaga , the worst , Ausuka
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , volxen
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: N/A

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 509, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.19 - FINAL

volxen (6) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Toranaga , the worst , Ausuka
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , volxen
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: N/A

A lynch has been achieved!

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Post Post #2076  (isolation #205)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:57 am

So fmpov either scum is eragon or one scum bussed the volxen lynch
that challenges some assumptions

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Post Post #2077  (isolation #206)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:05 am

I think I'm at Keyser/toranaga which is not what I expected
It's just really hard to read those colored votecounts and come away with "reundo is the scum"

Maybe we all townclear his posts because his posts deserve townclear

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Post Post #2080  (isolation #207)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:11 am

No I'm staring at your ISO right now and I don't remember any more why you got to be in the townblock
Remind me

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Post Post #2083  (isolation #208)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:15 am

I mean here's where I'm at, practically speaking:

Eragon isn't scum because he was Dunnstral's survival wagon
Toranaga isn't scum because he made sure volxen got lynched d1
Reundo isn't scum because he made sure volxen got lynched d1
Nauci isn't scum because she was volxen's survival wagon
I'm not scum
Keyser isn't scum...... but I don't remember why actually...... okay I see where I should be looking :giggle:

tor if Keyser is definitely town, why?

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Post Post #2085  (isolation #209)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:16 am

Still I'm gonna keep exploring the tor angle. If it's Keyser or Reundo I'll be convinced soon enough. I distinctly remember wanting Eragon's lynch over Dunnstral's because of a combination of Tor/Keyser

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Post Post #2089  (isolation #210)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:30 am

It can just be reundo, I guess
Reundo come play

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Post Post #2094  (isolation #211)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:50 am

all really good points
we should all just prodge until Reundo solves the game

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Post Post #2129  (isolation #212)  » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:18 am

prodge because I still think we should prodge until Reundo catches up
I'm town, reundo is either scum or is correct & will show us the way to victory

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Post Post #2176  (isolation #213)  » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:15 pm

One of my busiest IRL weekends in a long time
Sorry for the empty prodge

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Post Post #2183  (isolation #214)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:57 am

My gameplan is to continue to let Reundo catch up and post lots of words
Then pick a lynch with Nauci/Eragon
Is it bad that my scummiest read in this moment is Tor :lol:

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Post Post #2184  (isolation #215)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:29 am

In post 1359, Keyser Söze wrote:VOTE: Eragon

Probably gonna stay here for the rest of D2.

Dunnstral vs Eragon wagons competing makes most sense in my reads universe. Not going to give any town-scum, scum-scum association theory until we see a flip.


Keyser what was this post about

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Post Post #2188  (isolation #216)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:45 am

I wonder if tw and nsg are shouting at us from the dead thread
who else was in this game? :giggle:

[redacted]
I had some game thoughts above but I removed them because I think the lynchpool needs to share everything they're gonna share before I go into detail...

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Post Post #2189  (isolation #217)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:46 am

Keyser if you're the watcher I feel confident saying you should claim as soon as Reundo has cased Tor

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Post Post #2199  (isolation #218)  » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:18 am

oh okay
In my head Keyser/Reundo are the two most likely lynches for the day? And we already know if Reundo is watcher or not
This way we would know 100% which to lynch, or if Tora needs to be more seriously considered by eragon/nauci/keyser..?
I actually still don't see why I'm wrong, but usually in this situation it helps to shut up, so I will

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Post Post #2206  (isolation #219)  » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:38 am

In post 2202, Reundo wrote:Sorry for the radio silence. I'll get my Toranaga ISO done tonight.


at what point do you scumread someone for false promises

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Post Post #2209  (isolation #220)  » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:41 pm

I have nothing to lose by waiting :]

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Post Post #2213  (isolation #221)  » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:26 am

yeah that's basically the case
He also showed some real insight (if town) on lynching volxen, which I'd like to see him continue to do on other slots
But yeah if he doesn't show up by the weekend idk how successful he'll be in changing anyone's mind even if he's right
I wish he would case Tor though

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Post Post #2232  (isolation #222)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:06 am

..............................................

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Post Post #2233  (isolation #223)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:07 am

on another note I laughed out loud at tor casing himself
I never thought tor was scum I just wanted to see if Reundo would take advantage of my "strongest scumread" and suddenly find tor to be scummier than keyser

@reundo can you explain why you've been so quiet overall?

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Post Post #2238  (isolation #224)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:48 am

@Eragon is Keyser ever the lynch here?

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Post Post #2239  (isolation #225)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:48 am

I still believe Reundo is either scum or is right

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Post Post #2241  (isolation #226)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:03 am

I think reundo is more likely to flip scum
I think leaving scum!Keyser for mylo is the scarier option

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Post Post #2254  (isolation #227)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:48 pm

great, eragon and nauci are here
do we lynch keyser the top poster or reundo the bottom poster

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Post Post #2261  (isolation #228)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:55 pm

oh wait it's actually just lylo because there isn't a no lynch option
Let's see

If we lynch Reundo and he flips town
Someone claims watcher tomorrow, and they pretty much get to pick the lynch (unless scum is out-there enough to cc, which I doubt)
Keyser, if town & not watcher, has a reaalllll uphill battle to find and lynch scum
Keyser, if scum, has an uphill battle to lynch tor

I'm just gonna interrupt myself to say IF IT'S ERAGON, SO HELP ME

If we flip Keyser and he's town
Reundo just gets lynched, I guess, since he's already claimed backup and is the obvious PoE

Since Reundo's lynch is more inevitable than Keyser's, I think it makes more sense to lynch him today? Plus then we don't have to deal with "oops we outed Keyser the watcher AND Reundo flipped town"
'cause the watcher is our best hope of fixing a mislynch either way

Whatever let's flip Reundo already, in honor of the worst

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Post Post #2263  (isolation #229)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:56 pm

Any objections?

pedit: does that mean you townread him orrrrr

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Post Post #2265  (isolation #230)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:57 pm

yeah I mean everything reundo has posted is like a glaring "I'm town!!!" sign but on the other hand the rest of us actually live in this town sooo

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Post Post #2267  (isolation #231)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:06 pm

VOTE: reundo

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Post Post #2271  (isolation #232)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:26 pm

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2272  (isolation #233)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:27 pm

if it's keyser, nauci and reundo deserve an award
I unvoted because I'm willing to wait for Keyser to answer Nauci's question

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Post Post #2278  (isolation #234)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:41 pm

no keyser had unvoted I think

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Post Post #2279  (isolation #235)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:42 pm

f me I ruined it didn't i

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Post Post #2283  (isolation #236)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:43 pm

In post 2274, Nauci wrote:ut then I'm out the rest of the day because I'm getting my eyes dilated again lol. BUT SOON I WILL HAVE LASIK AND SEE SUPER GUD (well, theoretically by Oct 20)

congrats!

sure I'll do the thing you asked

@tor okay phew I thought you were hammertesting reundo or keyser

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Post Post #2286  (isolation #237)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:02 pm

hahahaha I know I know it's like reverse karma or something

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Post Post #2289  (isolation #238)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:32 pm

@Nauci sorry on a personal level if it feels like your work is being straight up ignored
Sometimes it's just a lot of work to completely re-evaluate on a strong townread (which most of us have had on keyser for most of the game)

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Post Post #2295  (isolation #239)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:52 pm

Yes
He's the reason I unvoted sesq
He's been spewing his thoughts at every chance he gets
His play reminds me somewhat of Presidents (including things like scummy word choices which meh)
He's the top poster, and he's not just posting at opportunistic times

.... on the other hand he's maybe been openwolfing lol

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Post Post #2297  (isolation #240)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:04 pm

Spoiler: a bunch of vote counts
In post 130, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.04

Keyser Söze (3) - Sesq , Reundo , 2 718281828459
2 718281828459 (2) - Keyser Söze , Irrelephant11
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
GameNBurger (1) - volxen
Irrelephant11 (1) - Ausuka

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Poseidon

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

In post 150, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.05

Reundo (3) - Ausuka , Keyser Söze , Irrelephant11
Keyser Söze (2) - Reundo , 2 718281828459
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
GameNBurger (1) - volxen

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Poseidon , Sesq

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

Mod notes
    - Reundo and Dunnstral have been prodded. They have (expired on 2018-08-27 09:02:16) to post before I start searching for their replacements.

In post 178, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.06

Reundo (3) - Ausuka , Keyser Söze , Irrelephant11
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo
GameNBurger (1) - volxen

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, Toranaga , Sesq , 2 718281828459

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - Searching for Reundo's replacement. If he posts here before I find someone, he can stay in the game.
    - The colors in post are difficult to read in mafSepia. Please try to use colors that work for both the light and dark colored board themes.

In post 351, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.12

Sesq (5) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , the worst , volxen , Ausuka
volxen (3) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant
Huntress (1) - Kop

Not voting: Toranaga , Huntress

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - Just to be clear, post does not count as an unvote, due to broken formatting.

In post 955, Flicker wrote:Votecount 2.11

Ausuka (3) - Toranaga , Eragon , Reundo
Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal , Irrelephant11 , Keyser Söze
Reundo (1) - Ausuka
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci

Not voting: the worst , Dunnstral

The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).

In post 1025, Flicker wrote:Votecount 2.12

Dunnstral (4) - northsidegal , Irrelephant11 , Keyser Söze , the worst
Ausuka (2) - Eragon , Reundo
northsidegal (1) - Toranaga
Reundo (1) - Ausuka
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci

Not voting: Dunnstral

The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).

In post 1126, Flicker wrote:Votecount 2.16

northsidegal (2) - Toranaga , Keyser Söze
Dunnstral (2) - northsidegal , Ausuka
Ausuka (2) - Eragon , Reundo
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci

Not voting: Dunnstral , Irrelephant11 , the worst

The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).

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    - The worst is V/LA until September 17th.

In post 1530, Flicker wrote:Votecount 2.25

Dunnstral (4) - northsidegal , Eragon , Toranaga , Keyser Söze
Eragon (3) - Irrelephant11 , the worst , Dunnstral
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci
Ausuka (1) - Reundo

Not voting: Ausuka

The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).

In post 1550, Flicker wrote:Votecount 2.26

Eragon (4) - Irrelephant11 , the worst , Dunnstral , Ausuka
Dunnstral (4) - northsidegal , Eragon , Toranaga , Keyser Söze
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci
Ausuka (1) - Reundo

Not voting: N/A

The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).


I have to go so no further thought on these votecounts but all in all they give roughly equal scum and town points to keyser and reundo

VOTE: reundo

@nauci if you're right I'm confident we'll still win
watcher is still thing too
headed out for the weekend

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Post Post #2357  (isolation #241)  » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:33 pm

@everyone
Why is Eragon town?

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Post Post #2369  (isolation #242)  » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:20 am

In post 2361, Nauci wrote:
In post 2357, Irrelephant11 wrote:@everyone
Why is Eragon town?


...I forgot

I knew at some point during day 3 though

But the way he progressed on Dunnstral was pretty town


lol same I also forgot
I'll ISO him before the end of this IRL day
I think part of it was that dunnstral's vote on him looked survivalistic? But I'm not sure that's true...

could just be paranoia but I don't feel good with my vote on either keyser or reundo right now so this is the avenue I want to explore before probably flipping reundo/keyser anyway

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Post Post #2374  (isolation #243)  » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:40 pm

Oh oops forgot
Shoot
Well I have tomorrow

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Post Post #2380  (isolation #244)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:54 am

ISOing eragon removed all doubt he's town
If anyone wants me to share lmk but he's consistently had dunnstral/keyser/sometimes reundo in the bottom of his reads and he was part of why dunnstral got lynched
His slot never had bad associatives with volxen
etc

I'm so ready to flip either keyser or reundo
I don't think I even care at this point which one
Though I'll point out that most players who have expressed a desire for a reundo flip are dead, and none of the players who have wanted a keyser flip are dead except Huntress
WIFOM-y point to make though, because perhaps Keyser leaves people around who want him dead for this very reason

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Post Post #2381  (isolation #245)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:55 am

VOTE: Keyser

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Post Post #2384  (isolation #246)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:52 am

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77254

Reundo just finished a game
He was town
Posted 32 posts in a 3.5 week game

He's posted 56 posts here in a 7 week game
I'm no longer scumreading reundo for activity

Let's hammer Keyser

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Post Post #2385  (isolation #247)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:53 am

well actually if we wait 36 hours Keyser will just die do if anyone wants to keep reading feel free

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Post Post #2388  (isolation #248)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:19 am

oh

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Post Post #2389  (isolation #249)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:19 am

if you're wrong town you just made the next phase so much harder
because that hammer was scummy and now I'm worried

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Post Post #2390  (isolation #250)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:22 am

welp
Keyser where you at
Please don't twilight troll if you're scum

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Post Post #2392  (isolation #251)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:28 am

yeah I mean that's just my gut reaction to your "I think he's town but here's a hammer"
I'm hoping we're voting the right person anyway and then it won't matter
If not I think watcher still has good odds to finally be helpful
So, whatever, this game just really has my head reeling after all this time

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Post Post #2397  (isolation #252)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:02 am

what does that meannnnn :O

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Post Post #2398  (isolation #253)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:02 am

it means you're town doesn't it
frick
F R I C K

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Post Post #2406  (isolation #254)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:09 am

:cry:

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Post Post #2409  (isolation #255)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:10 am

Watcher should watch me
Scum should kill me

pedit: Keyser please provide thoughts on remaining players before twilight ends

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Post Post #2415  (isolation #256)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:56 am

Image

Who's watcher?

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Post Post #2416  (isolation #257)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:58 am

I don't even care if you guys think this is scum theater I am absolutely floored
I was ready to start this day with a vote on Reundo
My jaw actually dropped when I saw the reveal
@scum you have made this the most interesting game I've ever played

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Post Post #2417  (isolation #258)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:00 pm

am I scum
is the twist that I'm scum and forgot

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Post Post #2418  (isolation #259)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:01 pm

I actually just went and checked because I would have found it more believable than anything else

hahahahahaha whaaaaaaat is this gaaaaame
Please watcher tell me you watched the right person

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Post Post #2420  (isolation #260)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:07 pm

If Nauci is watcher I could see her watching Reundo which would be nice
I doubt Eragon would have as watcher
I dare scum to claim watcher and enter the 1v1 :P

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Post Post #2422  (isolation #261)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:24 pm

I understood what you meant, I was sharing an unrelated thought

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Post Post #2423  (isolation #262)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:38 pm

...waiting for nauci/eragon to claim at this point

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Post Post #2428  (isolation #263)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:00 pm

Oh good I was gonna be so paranoid about Nauci if she wasn't watcher
Here's hoping she made the amazing decision to watch Reundo

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Post Post #2430  (isolation #264)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:31 pm

we hope nauci watched reundo lol

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Post Post #2438  (isolation #265)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:30 pm

Eh Eragon was all "volxen is the play nobody change your votes" at EOD and I offered to hammer
Regardless of which of us is scum volxen was at least bussed in word if not in deed

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Post Post #2440  (isolation #266)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:22 pm

Welp
Here we are
I literally don't know where to begin

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Post Post #2442  (isolation #267)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:26 pm

I'm ISOing myself for clues :giggle:

In post 1043, Irrelephant11 wrote:Hmmm: Volxen never has any interaction from his side with the Kop[Eragon] slot or Dunnstral, except to welcome Eragon to the game. I think this is mostly meaningless for Eragon, less certain on what it means for Dunnstral, who actively tried to shift people off the volxen wagon early on.


This might be a clue

pedit: I wonder if scum knew that Nauci would think it was me here
ftr Nauci there's no way scum!me takes you to mylo

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Post Post #2443  (isolation #268)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:40 pm

Spoiler: was hoping nsg could solve this from the grave but she made good points about both
In post 1684, northsidegal wrote:eragon scum being based off of how dunnstral came at me when i noted the punctuation thing about kop in much the same way that he only really showed up to attack the people scumreading volxen

ducky scum being based off of potential overconfidence in volxen's scumflip and maybe the eragon wagon / position on dunnstral day two (obviously given town!eragon if ducky!scum)

toranaga scum being based off of just my own personal scumread, as well as i guess the really weird way that his dunnstral read flipped like 10 times during the first few days of Day 2

In post 1686, northsidegal wrote:dang, will i have to give up my pet scumread of toranaga? we only have 3 lynches left really

In post 1687, northsidegal wrote:or maybe i should be more realistic about eragon not being scum because of his position as dunn's counterwagon?

In post 1693, northsidegal wrote:yeah content wise i really don't think it's eragon, my only reason for thinking he would be scum would be the kop thing

so yeah, probably not him

In post 1700, northsidegal wrote:meh

i'm stuck between looking at toranaga like a Lady Lambdadelta situation where if i don't push this scumread through then nobody else shares my read and you guys get endgamed, and just thinking that reundo might have more scum equity.

in some sense it makes sense to go for the safe play and lynch tor first if reundo will get lynched anyways without me alive, but in another, less logical and more prideful sense i would prefer to lynch scum three days in a row.

In post 1698, Eragon wrote:because I feel Reundo played a pretty good game, and would be obv. town in normal conditions.

but it seems like that should be the way for everyone

if you're saying that the only reason reundo is being scumread is because his partners got lynched already and the associatives are catching him, my scumread on him isn't really based on associatives at all. not the main parts of it, at least.

In post 1863, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1859, the worst wrote:if you're not scum who the hell is?

toranaga or you, probably

In post 1988, northsidegal wrote:assuming duck isn't twilight trolling I think my opinions have been made clear

don't get endgamed by toranaga

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Post Post #2444  (isolation #269)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:48 pm

er, I guess this is lylo
Yeah Nauci there's a 0% chance I continually pass up the opportunity to nightkill you

Not to mention I would have had to bus both my partners which is not my style - and I definitely had my pick of who I wanted to push lynches towards both d1 and d2. You might think I'm trying to change my scum meta to avoid you catching me out but scum!me bussed one of my partners before you were even in the game

Scum!relephant gets to 8-way mylo with both partners alive and you dead, or at least 6-way with dunnstral still alive

Kinda hurt you think this is my new scum meta actually
I recognize that's AtE but it's deserved I feel


This is actually gonna be an uphill battle which is incredibly frustrating given how much work I've already put into this game
As an aside I think I scumread Toranaga's trajectory this game but there's also more points this game from Tora that seem harder to fake as scum
I don't think I have the emotional energy to work more on this right now. This is like simultaneously a fascinating and extremely disheartening endgame

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Post Post #2453  (isolation #270)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:08 am

In post 2448, Nauci wrote:Irrelephant11 I guess we're town block because I refuse to believe you'd let dunnstral die like that

Thinking hats on!

:D
In post 2449, Nauci wrote:I extremely regret not faking watcher results

:cry:

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Post Post #2455  (isolation #271)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:30 am

lol I look terrible there
I'll humbly remind you guys that testing my alignment by vote is possible here but I also won't push it.

I'll probably color every votecount soon

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Post Post #2457  (isolation #272)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:33 am

In post 2456, Nauci wrote:RNGESUS


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay I'll have energy for this today
But also I need to focus on IRL things more than usual so I'll be back
First thought is eragon's ISO is much shallower and his reaction to you calling me locktown is odd

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Post Post #2464  (isolation #273)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:02 am

Mainly because Nauci being sure I'm town doesn't actually "confirm Tora as scum fypov" like you said
It makes it harder to win against scum!me but it doesn't actually make me more/less likely to be town - just less likely to get lynched
It felt like TMI, like "oh, Irrelephant is town to you? Then yeah, he's just town. Now I know who to try to mislynch"

This isn't like the strongest point in the world but it was definitely less towny than Tora's "so scum is one of you two???"
Anyway I'll be back later to work on finding stronger points than this, this is nitpicky

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Post Post #2465  (isolation #274)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:21 pm

I'm still leaning Eragon in my gut

Spoiler: d1 votecounts
Votecount 1.01

2 718281828459 (2) - Keyser Söze 8, Poseidon 12
Irrelephant11 (2) - Ausuka 7, 2 718281828459 9
GameNBurger (1) - volxen 14
Keyser Söze (1) - Sesq 11
Dunnstral (1) - Irrelephant11 6

Not voting: Dunnstral, GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Reundo

Votecount 1.02

Keyser Söze (2) - Sesq 11, Reundo 50
Irrelephant11 (2) - Ausuka 7, 2 718281828459 9
Reundo (1) - Keyser Söze 49
GameNBurger (1) - volxen 14
2 718281828459 (1) - Poseidon 12
Dunnstral (1) - Irrelephant11 6

Not voting: Dunnstral, GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal

Votecount 1.03

Keyser Söze (3) - Sesq 11, Reundo 50, 2 718281828459 91
2 718281828459 (2) - Poseidon 12, Keyser Söze 94
GameNBurger (1) - volxen 14
Irrelephant11 (1) - Ausuka 7
Dunnstral (1) - Irrelephant11 6

Not voting: Dunnstral, GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal

Votecount 1.04

Keyser Söze (3) - Sesq 11, Reundo 50, 2 718281828459 91
2 718281828459 (2) - Keyser Söze 94, Irrelephant11 112
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral 117
GameNBurger (1) - volxen 14
Irrelephant11 (1) - Ausuka 7

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Poseidon 110

Votecount 1.05

Reundo (3) - Ausuka 142, Keyser Söze 143, Irrelephant11 147
Keyser Söze (2) - Reundo 50, 2 718281828459 91
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral 117
GameNBurger (1) - volxen 14

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Poseidon 110, Sesq 135

Votecount 1.06

Reundo (3) - Ausuka 142, Keyser Söze 143, Irrelephant11 147
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal 170
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral 117
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 50
GameNBurger (1) - volxen 14

Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, Toranaga 110, Sesq 135, 2 718281828459 151

Votecount 1.07

2 718281828459 (2) - Irrelephant11 184, Kop 194
Reundo (2) - Ausuka 142, Keyser Söze 143
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal 170
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral 117
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 50
[GameNBurger] (1) - volxen 14

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga 110, Sesq 135, 2 718281828459 151

Votecount 1.08

volxen (4) - Reundo 220, Irrelephant11 221, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224
2 718281828459 (1) - Kop 194
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal 170
Reundo (1) - Ausuka 142
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral 117
[GameNBurger] (1) - volxen 14

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga 110, 2 718281828459 151

Votecount 1.09

volxen (5) - Reundo 220, Irrelephant11 221, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Ausuka 239
2 718281828459 (2) - Kop 194, volxen 237
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal 170
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral 117

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga 110, 2 718281828459 151

Votecount 1.10

volxen (4) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Ausuka 239
[2 718281828459] (2) - Kop 194, volxen 237
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal 170
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral 117

Not voting: the worst, Toranaga 110, [2 718281828459] 151

Votecount 1.11

Sesq (4) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, the worst 308, volxen 330
volxen (4) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Ausuka 239
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
[2 718281828459] (1) - Kop 194

Not voting: Toranaga 110, [2 718281828459] 151

Votecount 1.12

Sesq (5) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, the worst 308, volxen 330, Ausuka 345
volxen (3) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Huntress (1) - Kop 194

Not voting: Toranaga 110, Huntress 151

Votecount 1.13

Sesq (5) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, the worst 308, volxen 330, Ausuka 345
volxen (3) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress 393
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Huntress (1) - Eragon 194

Not voting: Toranaga 110

Votecount 1.14

volxen (6) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Toranaga 402, the worst 406, Ausuka 408
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, volxen 330
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress 393
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Huntress (1) - Eragon 194

Not voting: N/A




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Votecount 1.15

volxen (6) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Toranaga 402, the worst 406, Ausuka 408
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, volxen 330
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress 393
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Huntress (1) - Eragon 194

Not voting: N/A

Votecount 1.16

volxen (6) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Toranaga 402, the worst 406, Ausuka 408
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, volxen 330
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress 393
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Huntress (1) - Eragon 194

Not voting: N/A

Votecount 1.17

volxen (6) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Toranaga 402, the worst 406, Ausuka 408
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, volxen 330
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress 393
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Huntress (1) - Eragon 194

Not voting: N/A

Votecount 1.18

volxen (6) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Toranaga 402, the worst 406, Ausuka 408
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, volxen 330
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress 393
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Huntress (1) - Eragon 194

Not voting: N/A

Votecount 1.19 - FINAL

volxen (6) - Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Toranaga 402, the worst 406, Ausuka 408
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, volxen 330
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress 393
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 255
Huntress (1) - Eragon 194

Not voting: N/A


Spoiler: D2 votecounts
Votecount 2.01

Dunnstral (1) - Ausuka 523
northsidegal (1) - Irrelephant11 521

Not voting: Dunnstral, Eragon, Keyser Söze, northsidegal, Reundo, Sesq, Toranaga, the worst
Votecount 2.02

Dunnstral (3) - Ausuka 523, Keyser Söze 530, Toranaga 551
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 554
Ausuka (1) - Dunnstral 536
northsidegal (1) - Irrelephant11 521

Not voting: Eragon, Nauci, northsidegal, the worst

Votecount 2.03

Dunnstral (3) - Ausuka 523, Keyser Söze 530, Toranaga 551
Irrelephant11 (1) - Nauci 589
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 554
Ausuka (1) - Dunnstral 536
northsidegal (1) - Irrelephant11 521

Not voting: Eragon, northsidegal, the worst

Votecount 2.04

Dunnstral (3) - Ausuka 523, Keyser Söze 530, Irrelephant11 635
Ausuka (3) - Dunnstral 536, Toranaga 620, the worst 621
Irrelephant11 (1) - Nauci 589
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 554

Not voting: Eragon, northsidegal

Votecount 2.05

Dunnstral (3) - Ausuka 523, Keyser Söze 530, Irrelephant11 635
Ausuka (3) - Dunnstral 536, Toranaga 620, the worst 621
Irrelephant11 (1) - Nauci 589
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 554

Not voting: Eragon, northsidegal

Votecount 2.06

Ausuka (4) - Dunnstral 536, Toranaga 620, the worst 621, Keyser Söze 685
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11 657
Irrelephant11 (1) - Nauci 589
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 554
Dunnstral (1) - Ausuka 523

Not voting: Eragon, northsidegal

Votecount 2.07

Keyser Söze (2) - Reundo 554, Nauci 725
Toranaga (2) - Irrelephant11 657, Ausuka 711
Ausuka (2) - Dunnstral 536, Toranaga 620

Not voting: Eragon, northsidegal, the worst 726, Keyser Söze 727

Votecount 2.08

Dunnstral (2) - northsidegal 786, Irrelephant11 829
Ausuka (2) - Dunnstral 536, Toranaga 620
Reundo (1) - Ausuka 823
Toranaga (1) - Reundo 809
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Eragon, the worst 726, Keyser Söze 727

Votecount 2.09

Dunnstral (2) - northsidegal 786, Irrelephant11 829
Ausuka (2) - Dunnstral 536, Toranaga 620
Reundo (1) - Ausuka 823
Toranaga (1) - Reundo 809
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Eragon, the worst 726, Keyser Söze 727

Votecount 2.10

Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal 786, Irrelephant11 829, Keyser Söze 856
Ausuka (2) - Dunnstral 536, Toranaga 620
Reundo (1) - Ausuka 823
Toranaga (1) - Reundo 809
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Eragon, the worst 726

Votecount 2.11

Ausuka (3) - Toranaga 620, Eragon 920, Reundo 946
Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal 786, Irrelephant11 829, Keyser Söze 856
Reundo (1) - Ausuka 823
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: the worst 726, Dunnstral 915

Votecount 2.12

Dunnstral (4) - northsidegal 786, Irrelephant11 829, Keyser Söze 856, the worst 956
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
northsidegal (1) - Toranaga 966
Reundo (1) - Ausuka 823
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915

Votecount 2.13

Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal 786, Keyser Söze 856, the worst 956
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
northsidegal (1) - Toranaga 1045
Reundo (1) - Ausuka 823
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, Irrelephant11 1043

Votecount 2.14

Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal 786, Keyser Söze 856, the worst 956
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
northsidegal (1) - Toranaga 1045
Reundo (1) - Ausuka 823
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, Irrelephant11 1043

Votecount 2.15

Dunnstral (2) - northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
northsidegal (1) - Toranaga 1045
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, Irrelephant11 1043, the worst 1094, Keyser Söze 1096

Votecount 2.16

northsidegal (2) - Toranaga 1045, Keyser Söze 1113
Dunnstral (2) - northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, Irrelephant11 1043, the worst 1094

Votecount 2.17

northsidegal (2) - Toranaga 1045, Keyser Söze 1113
Dunnstral (2) - northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, Irrelephant11 1043, the worst 1094

Votecount 2.18

northsidegal (2) - Toranaga 1045, Keyser Söze 1113
Dunnstral (2) - northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
the worst (1) - Irrelephant11 1218
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, the worst 1094

Votecount 2.19

Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078, Irrelephant11 1222
northsidegal (2) - Toranaga 1045, Keyser Söze 1113
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, the worst 1094

Votecount 2.20

Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078, Irrelephant11 1222
northsidegal (2) - Toranaga 1045, Keyser Söze 1113
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 725

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, the worst 1094

Votecount 2.21

Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078, Irrelephant11 1222
Ausuka (2) - Eragon 920, Reundo 946
northsidegal (1) - Toranaga 1045

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, the worst 1094, Keyser Söze 1270, Nauci 1271

Votecount 2.22

Dunnstral (5) - northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078, Irrelephant11 1222, the worst 1282, Toranaga 1299
Ausuka (1) - Reundo 946

Not voting: Dunnstral 915, Keyser Söze 1270, Nauci 1271, Eragon 1295

Votecount 2.23

Eragon (5) - Irrelephant11 1353, Keyser Söze 1359, the worst 1368, Dunnstral 1370, Toranaga 1428
Dunnstral (2) - northsidegal 786, Eragon 1367
Ausuka (1) - Reundo 946

Not voting: Nauci 1271, Ausuka 1314

Votecount 2.24

Eragon (4) - Irrelephant11 1353, Keyser Söze 1359, the worst 1368, Dunnstral 1370
Dunnstral (3) - northsidegal 786, Eragon 1367, Toranaga 1448
Ausuka (1) - Reundo 946

Not voting: Nauci 1271, Ausuka 1314

Votecount 2.25

Dunnstral (4) - northsidegal 786, Eragon 1367, Toranaga 1448, Keyser Söze 1497
Eragon (3) - Irrelephant11 1353, the worst 1368, Dunnstral 1370
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 1508
Ausuka (1) - Reundo 946

Not voting: Ausuka 1314

Votecount 2.26

Eragon (4) - Irrelephant11 1353, the worst 1368, Dunnstral 1370, Ausuka 1541
Dunnstral (4) - northsidegal 786, Eragon 1367, Toranaga 1448, Keyser Söze 1497
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 1508
Ausuka (1) - Reundo 946

Not voting: N/A

Votecount 2.27

Dunnstral (5) - northsidegal 786, Eragon 1367, Toranaga 1448, Keyser Söze 1497, Nauci 1571
Eragon (4) - Irrelephant11 1353, the worst 1368, Dunnstral 1370, Ausuka 1541
Ausuka (1) - Reundo 946

Not voting: N/A

Votecount 2.28 - FINAL

Dunnstral (6) - northsidegal 786, Eragon 1367, Toranaga 1448, Keyser Söze 1497, Nauci 1571, the worst 1576
Eragon (3) - Irrelephant11 1353, Dunnstral 1370, Ausuka 1541
Ausuka (1) - Reundo 946

Not voting: N/A


Spoiler: d3 votecounts
Votecount 3.01

the worst (2) - northsidegal 1595, Keyser Söze 1598
Eragon (1) - Toranaga 1594
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 1585

Not voting: Eragon, Irrelephant11, Reundo, the worst

Votecount 3.02

the worst (2) - northsidegal 1595, Keyser Söze 1598
Reundo (1) - the worst 1647
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 1585
Eragon (1) - Toranaga 1594

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Reundo, Eragon 1613
Votecount 3.03

the worst (2) - northsidegal 1595, Keyser Söze 1598
Reundo (1) - the worst 1647
Keyser Söze (1) - Nauci 1585
Eragon (1) - Toranaga 1594

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Reundo, Eragon 1613

Votecount 3.04

Reundo (3) - the worst 1647, northsidegal 1762, Toranaga 1796
Keyser Söze (2) - Nauci 1585, Reundo 1757
the worst (1) - Irrelephant11 1739

Not voting: Eragon 1613, Keyser Söze 1772

Votecount 3.05

Reundo (3) - the worst 1647, northsidegal 1762, Toranaga 1796
the worst (2) - Irrelephant11 1739, Nauci 1806
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 1757

Not voting: Eragon 1613, Keyser Söze 1772

Votecount 3.06

Reundo (4) - the worst 1647, northsidegal 1762, Toranaga 1831, Keyser Söze 1856
the worst (2) - Irrelephant11 1739, Nauci 1806
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 1757

Not voting: Eragon 1613

Votecount 3.07

the worst (3) - Irrelephant11 1739, Nauci 1806, Toranaga 1891
Reundo (2) - the worst 1647, northsidegal 1762
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 1757

Not voting: Eragon 1613, Keyser Söze 1898

Votecount 3.08

the worst (3) - Irrelephant11 1739, Nauci 1806, Toranaga 1891
Reundo (2) - the worst 1647, northsidegal 1762
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 1757

Not voting: Eragon 1613, Keyser Söze 1898

Votecount 3.09 - FINAL

the worst (5) - Irrelephant11 1739, Nauci 1806, Toranaga 1891, Eragon 1951, Keyser Söze 1961
Reundo (2) - the worst 1647, northsidegal 1762
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 1757

Not voting: N/A


Spoiler: d4 votecounts
Votecount 4.01

Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 2050
Reundo (1) - Eragon 2043

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Keyser Söze, Nauci, Toranaga

Votecount 4.02

Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 2050
Reundo (1) - Eragon 2043

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Keyser Söze, Nauci, Toranaga

Votecount 4.03

Reundo (2) - Eragon 2043, Toranaga 2099
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 2050

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Keyser Söze, Nauci

Votecount 4.04

Reundo (2) - Eragon 2043, Toranaga 2099
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 2050

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Keyser Söze, Nauci

Votecount 4.05

Reundo (2) - Eragon 2043, Toranaga 2099
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 2050

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Keyser Söze, Nauci

Votecount 4.06

Reundo (2) - Eragon 2043, Toranaga 2099
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 2050

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Keyser Söze, Nauci

Votecount 4.07

Reundo (2) - Eragon 2043, Toranaga 2099
Keyser Söze (1) - Reundo 2050

Not voting: Irrelephant11, Keyser Söze, Nauci

Votecount 4.08

Keyser Söze (2) - Reundo 2050, Nauci 2204
Reundo (2) - Eragon 2043, Toranaga 2099

Not voting: Irrelephant11 2271, Keyser Söze 2243

Votecount 4.09

Reundo (3) - Eragon 2043, Toranaga 2099, Irrelephant11 2297
Keyser Söze (3) - Reundo 2050, Nauci 2204, Keyser Söze 2292

Not voting: N/A

Votecount 4.10

Reundo (2) - Eragon 2043, Irrelephant11 2297
Keyser Söze (2) - Reundo 2050, Nauci 2204
Nauci (1) - Toranaga 2324

Not voting: Keyser Söze 2320

Votecount 4.11

Reundo (2) - Eragon 2043, Irrelephant11 2297
Keyser Söze (2) - Reundo 2050, Nauci 2204
Nauci (1) - Toranaga 2324

Not voting: Keyser Söze 2353

Votecount 4.12

Reundo (3) - Eragon 2043, Irrelephant11 2297, Toranaga 2359
Keyser Söze (2) - Reundo 2050, Nauci 2204

Not voting: Keyser Söze 2353

Votecount 4.13 - FINAL

Keyser Söze (4) - Reundo 2050, Nauci 2204, Irrelephant11 2381, Toranaga 2387
Reundo (1) - Eragon 2043

Not voting: Keyser Söze 2353

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Post Post #2470  (isolation #275)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:44 pm

Well when you put it like that it doesn't sound especially likely
I will say volxen treated dunnstral and eragon's slots exactly the same: silence

Also at one point D2 dunnstral gave a lynchpool of me/eragon/nsg/tw which I sorta want to read as a way to throw his partner's name out there?
Then again dunnstral/tora have weird interactions early d2

pedit: That's exactly why it's not me :P . The main reason I don't take you to lylo is that I'd become your new D1 policy lynch after this :lol:

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Post Post #2471  (isolation #276)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:00 pm

nightkill analysis?

N1, scum just flipped, and I'm Toranaga talking with my partner Dunnstral about this playerlist:
northsidegal
Sesq
Huntress
Ausuka
Eragon
Keyser Söze
the worst
Irrelephant11
Reundo

I kill Huntress over anyone else because Huntress called out two of us as scum in and they're unlikely to be watched

or

I'm eragon with my partner dunnstral, and we kill Huntress over anyone else just because they were right-ish about volxen and it would maybe frame keyser a little (keyser who no one suspected)

N2, I'm Toranaga and I've successfully bussed both my partners to death. I'm looking at this playerlist
northsidegal
Sesq
Ausuka
Eragon
Keyser Söze
the worst
Irrelephant11
Reundo

I kill Ausuka over anyone else because she put all three of the scumteam in her PoE D1 in and she stayed accurate in . she's scary accurate and I basically become her fav tunnel until she compromises on my scumpartner. Way too scary, needs death, even though she's somewhat mislynchable. Look at ! Bottom of her reads all day. And maybe she's the watcher (sidenote: her watcher crumb was in response to a Tora post). is yikes! given she's the only one calling me out
-->definitely the best kill from tora' POV, after Ausuka died he was much more widely ignored/townread

or

I'm eragon and Ausuka has called me out as being underwhelming in 637 and I'm newly in her PoE. She doesn't ever really call me out fully but I'm in her 715. I'm not *really* afraid of her though because of , so mostly I'm just aiming for killing the watcher. is yikes! given she's the only one calling me out but given the wagon on me EOD she's a better nightkill than Irrelephant
-->Kinda feel like eragon would have shot tw here

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Post Post #2472  (isolation #277)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:01 pm

toranaga definitely gets more scumpoints from the first two nightkills, but they make some sense from eragon's pov too, so it's not 100% clear yet

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Post Post #2490  (isolation #278)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:15 am

Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha way to alllllll be prodded
Yeah Tor if you're town you're doing more than sitting and watching
Town!you doesn't give up that easy
Tell me why Eragon is scum or get lynched

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Post Post #2493  (isolation #279)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:43 am

Eh I don't have the energy to keep it up and a quick skim of your meta says town!you does indeed act this way (though maybe not in lylo? idk)
I was trying a new thing where I look at what the nightkilled players are good at and try to do it
Ausuka and nsg were good at 1v1'ing
But I really don't have the energy rn

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Post Post #2494  (isolation #280)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:53 am

I mean F me Toranaga and Eragon both have more posts than me what the heck

Okay let's do some solving I guess

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Post Post #2495  (isolation #281)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:28 pm

Eragon
Reasons to Scumread:
> Dunnstral and volxen both treated him consistently with the way they treated each other
---> Dunnstral soft defended both him and volxen d1 and was otherwise pretty quiet (sidenote: dunnstral did this for tor D2)
---> volxen ignored both the dunnstral and kop/eragon slots entirely
> lolposting as late into the game as last game day. Post count probably decreases dramatically if you remove every joke-y post

Reasons to townread:
> Always felt pretty reasonable

Toranaga
Reasons to scumread:
> Flip-flopped on Dunnstral D2 in an opportunistic way

Reasons to townread:
> volxen and Toranaga wanted each other dead before it was certain either of them would get a wagon
> Toranaga shifted wagon movement onto volxen near EOD
> Highest post count in the game for a player which a meta skim says post count is AI



@Nauci quote and add things until we have all the puzzle pieces filled in

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Post Post #2496  (isolation #282)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:44 pm

Eragon
Reasons to Scumread:
> Dunnstral and volxen both treated him consistently with the way they treated each other
---> Dunnstral soft defended both him and volxen d1 and was otherwise pretty quiet (sidenote: dunnstral did this for tor D2)
---> volxen ignored both the dunnstral and kop/eragon slots entirely
> lolposting as late into the game as last game day. Post count probably decreases dramatically if you remove every joke-y post
> Very careful with his votes

Reasons to townread:
> Always felt pretty reasonable
> Townread Kop

Toranaga
Reasons to scumread:
> Flip-flopped on Dunnstral D2 in an opportunistic way
> Scumread Poseidon
> NSG thought Tor was scum, and it's NSG
> Ausuka was really sure of it too for all of d2 (sidenote: was also willing to vote Eragon by EOD2)

Reasons to townread:
> volxen and Toranaga wanted each other dead before it was certain either of them would get a wagon
> Toranaga shifted wagon movement onto volxen near EOD
> Highest post count in the game for a player which a meta skim says post count is AI
>
>Swung his votes wherever his reads moved
> is towny in retrospect, given he was either protecting *only himself* (not Dunnstral) or was accurately aiming at *both scum*

Question marks????
> , votes dunnstral after Ausuka and Keyser already had done so with the caption "scummy posting imo"
> Started this game day with "I think it's Nauci"


@Nauci quote and add things until we have all the puzzle pieces filled in

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Post Post #2497  (isolation #283)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:19 pm

In post 2496, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Eragon
Reasons to Scumread:
> Dunnstral and volxen both treated him consistently with the way they treated each other
---> Dunnstral soft defended both him and volxen d1 and was otherwise pretty quiet (sidenote: dunnstral did this for tor D2)
---> volxen ignored both the dunnstral and kop/eragon slots entirely
> lolposting as late into the game as last game day. Post count probably decreases dramatically if you remove every joke-y post
> Very careful with his votes
> Kop and Eragon both got prodded before this game day, unlike Tor

Reasons to townread:
> Always felt pretty reasonable
> Townread Kop

Toranaga
Reasons to scumread:
> Flip-flopped on Dunnstral D2 in an opportunistic way
> Scumread Poseidon
> NSG thought Tor was scum, and it's NSG
> Ausuka was really sure of it too for all of d2 (sidenote: was also willing to vote Eragon by EOD2)
> is pretty scummy after starting that game day with "irdk who it is"
> is also pretty scummy on its own
> Huntress kill makes more sense as a Toranaga/dunn team kill than an eragon/dunn team kill

Reasons to townread:
> volxen and Toranaga wanted each other dead before it was certain either of them would get a wagon
> Toranaga shifted wagon movement onto volxen near EOD
> Highest post count in the game for a player which a meta skim says post count is AI
>
>Swung his votes wherever his reads moved
> is towny in retrospect, given he was either protecting *only himself* (not Dunnstral) or was accurately aiming at *both scum*

Question marks????
> , votes dunnstral after Ausuka and Keyser already had done so with the caption "scummy posting imo"
> Started this game day with "I think it's Nauci"


@Nauci quote and add things until we have all the puzzle pieces filled in

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Post Post #2513  (isolation #284)  » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:42 pm

In post 2509, Nauci wrote:I'm leaning eragon thus far

Oddly enough I think Tora being paranoid I'm scum was rather town

I had the same feeling
But when I think about it more deeply it's like

Scum!tora wanted to kill the person least likely to get watched
In killing Reundo, he probably thought you were least likely to be watcher, because you were the only one who would watch him
Therefore his calling you out as scum might have just been him saying "oh Irrelephant isn't the watcher? Then it's eragon, and nauci is scum"

But there's some assumptions in there so idk
In post 2510, Nauci wrote:Irrelephant, what did you think about Dunnstral's treatment of NSG when she was talking about Kop's posts having an odd cadence? Potential chainsawing?

I mean it might be
lol for so long I WIFOM'd myself into thinking it'd be too obvious to be chainsawing
But that might be why eragon is here

I think the fact that eragon was treated similarly by dunnstral/volxen as they treated each other is pretty damning overall, though
Like if this game were just D1 I would 100% lynch eragon over toranaga, actually
I keep trying to think of magical new perspectives to have to figure this out
Like "which of them would be more likely to watcher!read Reundo??" or "Can I glean their alignment from the consistency of their reads" but whoever is scum seems to have covered a lot of bases

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Post Post #2520  (isolation #285)  » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:06 pm

ISOing Eragon today

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Post Post #2521  (isolation #286)  » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:08 pm

Nauci do you have much experience in lylo situations?
I'm curious how good you are at lylo in a general sense/how much I should sheep you
I've failed in lylo once, and I think that's it in terms of being town in lylo

I did learn though that when you get to lylo, you should probably lynch the one you've more strongly townread for more of the game, because that's why they made it to lylo

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Post Post #2522  (isolation #287)  » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:10 pm

Specifically I'm referring to replacing into The Arena
lylo was me/Dunnstral/Something_Smart
I had been leaning on a town!dunnstral read to form a lot of my other reads
I made the mistake of continuing to townread them in lylo, when situationally I should have known that made them scum

Who has been in town's blindspot since d2?

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Post Post #2523  (isolation #288)  » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:10 pm

I'm sorta leaning Eragon, but I'm keeping it in mind as I go to re-read

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Post Post #2524  (isolation #289)  » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:11 pm

I don't. super? townread Tora's casing me in the last couple pages, kinda just looks like busywork meant to look towny
I guess the same could be said about Eragon just being defensive in the past couple pages so w/e ISO time

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Post Post #2525  (isolation #290)  » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:58 pm

Spoiler: TMIing volxen's lynch
In post 491, Eragon wrote:Literally the only play is to kill volxen.

If we lynch him and he’s watcher, then someone else takes his place and we get their results N1

If we lynch him and he’s scum, GREAT!

If we don’t lynch him and he’s watcher, and he’s town, he dies tonight and we don’t get results for N1

If we don’t lynch him and he’s scum, we’ll then we lynch him tommorow, which is a day later than we should

In post 492, Eragon wrote:No matter what volxen flips he’s always the lynch

In post 494, Eragon wrote:There’s literally no other play that gives us value

In post 497, Irrelephant11 wrote:Right but scum lynch and lose a night of watcher is better than watcher lynch and keep a night of watcher
But you're right about the general strat I'm just saying if volxen is town the one good reason to maybe not lynch him is to lynch scum, regardless of claim

In post 498, Eragon wrote:Ok, I guess I see that.



In post 593, Eragon wrote:19999999999999% confirmed town{Nauci}
kidding.


{Irrelephant, The worst, Keyser}
{toranaga, nauci}
{Ausuka, NSG}
{dunnstral, Reundo}


right now Im not very confident on the reads themselves, because I haven't had ISO dive time yet.
Basically this is just the strength of my reads, so the top bracket is my strongest town reads(but not, like, confirmed town, or "IMO never ever flips scum town")
second is town reads, but could sort of go either way
Ausuka and NSG are basically null
And dunn and Reundo are both small scum reads, but not very confident in them

Has dunn in his scumpool all of d2, but never pushes him until it becomes eragon/dunn competing wagons
Spoiler: Prodging for like a week
In post 594, Eragon wrote:ill explain things/go more in depth/re-order/do stuff later if I have time

In post 705, Eragon wrote:Ok it’s the weekend bt im golfing rn

Expect (hopefully) activity in about 7 hours when I’m back home.

Then I might actually do stuff. YAY!

In post 799, Eragon wrote:oh my god im the most awesomest FM player ever(complete /s)

i definitley didnt fall asleep at my desk, wake up and shut down my computer, losing all the open windows, then went to my golf tournement and forgot about everything.

Truly, none of this actually happened. (/s)

In post 800, Eragon wrote:well, i think i caught up on some sleep over the weekend and HW is mostly done so i should be able to do things rn on the bus :3

In post 805, Eragon wrote:
In post 802, the worst wrote:uhhh why is era's shameless prodging pinging me as towny


Image


im maybe doing stuff in the next hour.


Spoiler: Scumcases Ausuka without showing work on any other reads
In post 807, Eragon wrote: this is only their third post of the game and they already have p.much a full readlist and things on everyone that they can. Then gives a wishy washy read on Sesq saying they are probably TWTBAW, which I normally find is scum trying to WK town and because they know someone is town. Talks about Keyser active scumhunting, which is kinda NAI because anyone can “scumhunt” first one I see they think is scummy is Volxen, which is a read of “his contributions are kind of active lurking,” like… “What?” This almost seems like an attempt for early towncred if volxen flips. Seems kinda ehh about irrelephant TR’ing NSG for “game-solvey” but they themselves talked about Keyser genuinely Scumhunting.

hrmmm looking above their SR on Reundo is pretty much entrance comments so this is an ok vote and keeps In touch with their reads. But the “ugh thanks, I forgot” seemed kinda forced.
not just this but another before this, they’re talking a LOT about 2.718 and slight defending him with their posts. I dont think this means much as their slot flipped town, but it could be pocketing/towncred
“im awful at finding scum but ill try”
You have been trying
Whose to say your awful?
To me this reads as a reason to actually not find scum, by deprecating yourself and saying your bad at scum hunting

where did this naked vote come from??
and this kinda-naked vote after saying you like them as a TR, but you come back with saying its a shitread and voting them…

nothing really bad here, but somehow they already think they have the game to 3 scum out of 6 players? Which seems overconfident to me, and they said they dont normally have confidence in 202
this is now the third time naked voting Volxen, although at least they had reasoning for the SR.
in the mindset of an Ausuka/volxen team “Do we risk the flip or can we change?”



this is their D1 ISO that i got and im getting the impression they are probably scum

Bolded is extremely scum indicative (look at 375)

so far nothing is suggesting townagon
In post 808, Eragon wrote:ill do the rest later but i aint got time for this rn

In post 849, Eragon wrote:
In post 847, Dunnstral wrote:Are you sring Not Voting?


wut are you tryna say here?

like this light interaction is how he interacts with the player he says is at the bottom of his PoE
In post 863, Eragon wrote:-snip-
In post 860, Toranaga wrote:kop/eragon is a very spicy spot indeed

the worst was talking about a world where both dunnstall and ausuka were town and it's a scary proposition but I'm gonna randomly guess that means kop is scum everytime and I'll be right too

dunn and ausuka are never both town IMO.
i mean, i know it might seem like im doing this because you said if their both town, then im scum, but as you could tell i had a SR on ausuka earlier and dunn was kinda skim SR, but not strong, so im confident that both my SR's arent wrong, i could definitely see 1 being town though.

In post 861, Toranaga wrote:like if both ausuka and dunn are town, where do we even go, right

we go kop/eragon

I don't remember a single eragon post now that I think about it


is it my avatar? 0.0
becuase i have a post <5 posts above yours

Everything in this quote is important later
In post 880, Eragon wrote:
In post 874, Toranaga wrote:[snip]

ok I think eragon is town


who will i fight against if everyone thinks im town ;_;

suggests eragon is the reason we're in lylo
In post 920, Eragon wrote:
In post 910, Irrelephant11 wrote:@ Reundo/Nauci/Eragon/the worst

You should put your votes on one of the two leading wagons or NSG
Especially Eragon/the worst should


VOTE: Ausuka

ill probably maybe do stuff tommorow but from what i've actually read of the thread i feel the most confident in this

When told to make the choice, doesn't vote dunnstral
Spoiler: idk what to do with this readslist but feels like it might be important
In post 938, Eragon wrote:TOWN CORE
-Nauci
-Toranaga
-Eragon
-the worst
-Irrelephant11

PoE Bracket
-northsidegal
-Ausuka
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral
-Reundo

Probably the town
-Reundo
-NSG

probably the scum
-keyser soze
-dunnstral
-ausuka

Spoiler: at this point nothing about dunnstral/eragon interactions are towny, I'm nearly ready to vote eragon tbh
In post 975, Eragon wrote:
In post 956, the worst wrote:good morning

VOTE: Dunnstral


fun

In post 957, Dunnstral wrote:Go back to sleep ducky you're wrong


spicy

In post 958, Irrelephant11 wrote:hey dunnstral please please post five more times before leaving
each with substantial meaning

it would be v towny of you and also helpful


he didnt do this... what does it mean to you?

In post 960, Dunnstral wrote:I started rethinking Ausuka on recent postings

I think I'd prefer to get Keyser Soze and I think he's been kind of awkward around the Ausuka vs Me Dynamic

can you elaborate on why its "awkward"
and what about Ausuka makes you rethink

-snip-

Spoiler: yuck
In post 976, Eragon wrote:
In post 915, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE: ausuka

In post 960, Dunnstral wrote:I started rethinking Ausuka on recent postings

I think I'd prefer to get Keyser Soze and I think he's been kind of awkward around the Ausuka vs Me Dynamic


ill go deeper on a read tommorow(yes, i know ive said this a million times) but on a surface level, either Ausuka and Dunnstral are SvS and dunn would rather get lynched than ausuka

or dunn is town

because i dont see Dunnstral backing off of his SR on the only other wagon with good traction(Ausuka) if he is scum and ausuka is town. IT just makes no sense from a scum PoV and preservation.

thats only surface level

In post 1027, Eragon wrote:Eh I’m good with dunnstral too, even if he’s not my #1

I really should probably ISO him

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Post Post #2526  (isolation #291)  » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:05 pm

& :lol: :lol: :lol:
followed by is pretty non-partner indicative imo?
& is not as bus-y as 402 was


I'm very strongly leaning eragon now
I haven't fully ISO'd Tora yet, though
tbf I stopped at 1112 for Eragon but idk if I want to go much further
Honestly I think we were all like "Eragon/dunnstral competing wagons? Well town never does that to both remaining scum" forgetting that up until that point we'd been the most accurate and successful town ever, and it's not that unlikely

Thoughts? I feel close to "solve", though given my nature I'll probably flip flop till deadline

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Post Post #2532  (isolation #292)  » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:47 am

@Nauci technically we have till the 25th if you need the time
It'd be a prodgy five days but we can wait till deadline if you prefer

Also congrats on Lasik!

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Post Post #2536  (isolation #293)  » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:54 pm

In post 2534, Nauci wrote:I didn't get through enough of the game last night so I'll have to come back for this later

but I keep imagining NSG in the dead thread shouting at us to not let Tora end game us


lol same
probably I would have voted eragon by now if this wasn't in my head

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Post Post #2543  (isolation #294)  » Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:49 pm

We have plenty of time, but I feel pretty good about VOTE: Eragon
I’ll ISO Tora at some point too to make sure

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Post Post #2551  (isolation #295)  » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:13 am

ISOing both of you more today
Tora always pushes for days to END ALREADY which is a liiiiittle bit scummy?

Anyway I like how long this game day is because I feel I need it to answer who's scum
thx <3

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Post Post #2561  (isolation #296)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:05 am

well forget this game because I'm now sold on them both being scum tbh

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Post Post #2562  (isolation #297)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:29 am

eragon you had toranaga in your towncore along with me for awhile
why did you lose your townread on tora when it became lylo while holding onto your read of me?
If your answer is a variation of "pocketed" please provide examples

I ISO'd both players and especially read around EOD2 and I no longer think it's toranaga
I am back to feeling game solve about it

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Post Post #2563  (isolation #298)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:37 am

Some reasons tor is likely town, besides the d1 "bus":
-mentioned tw should have been n1 kill for TMI'ing volxen's lynch (the only townie who could TMI was watcher, so yes tw should have been the kill there) to which eragon replied something like "huh?"
-when eragon/dunn were competing wagons, and eragon was at L-1, Tor went back to dunn first (I think). This would be Tora's second time singlehandedly choosing to lynch a scum partner over a townie
-the number of mislynches in a row implies we were operating on a false assumption; that assumption was not town!toranaga (which developed d2 as a result of toranaga's volxen vote), because we had that in mind when lynching dunnstral. It is more likely town!eragon (which developed d3 as a result of eragon wanting dunnstral dead), because once that settled in we could no longer manage to lynch scum

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Post Post #2564  (isolation #299)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:44 am

I also read two of eragon's newbie games and this reminds me much more of scum!eragon than town!eragon, right down to how he scumcased his only living partner (compare 1526 and his "why are you treating my slot differently" scum case there with this scum case of Quick (including "why are you treating my slot differently") that he never votes for/pursues until he needs to to live)

The town game I read was viewtopic.php?f=50&t=76847
and Krazy in that game solved it by eragon's sheer towniness, which I don't gather here.

ughh but otoh scum!eragon in that other game didn't keep Quick in the bottom of his PoE for like 5ever like he did with dunnstral here

anyway there's some thoughts

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Post Post #2565  (isolation #300)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:46 am

dunnstral I'm actually flip flopping a lot more than I'm showing so don't give up here
tora if you would do more to show scum!eragon here that would be great

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Post Post #2567  (isolation #301)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:06 am

wooooo

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Post Post #2572  (isolation #302)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:05 pm

WOW I was holding my breath when the deadline unexpectedly ran out o.O
That was so fun! What a good game, everyone!

Thanks Flicker!

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Post Post #2575  (isolation #303)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:41 pm

This is actually maybe my most proud town win
When I realized "hey we were townreading Eragon for being a wagon right along with dunnstral... But town has been extremely accurate this game so we should have just assumed we were doubly right..." it all clicked
This is one of the towniest towns that ever towned and I'm very impressed with our collective effort

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Post Post #2577  (isolation #304)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:15 pm

Idk Nauci would have been cleared town and she had Reundo as locktown as much as she had me as locktown, it still would have been a battle
But yes I will take credit for making sure you were the lynch :D
I thought I accidentally made it obvious I wasn't watcher when I told Keyser to claim when we were all still deciding between keyser & reundo
Also the way I was nearly swayed by volxen's D1 watcher claim for like 5 minutes

But I did indeed expect watcher to go on either me or nauci. Well played eragon! You soaked up towncred so subtly for so long, for things that didn't really earn you towncred! lol

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