In post 13, Keyser Söze wrote:Anyone played this setup before?
I.e what’s the best way to play it... does hypoclaiming help town or scum?
And while we’re all saying hello, what are your opinions on how to deal with lurkers.
In post 25, Keyser Söze wrote:
This was a page one question intended to be answered before we enter serious/non-RVS gameplay.
You shouldn’t see it as an attempt to look ‘townie’: it’s as non-alignment indicative as say a player asking if there is scum day chat - why are you being lazy/shortsighted?
In post 115, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 111, Ausuka wrote:Spoiler: northsidegal
Good observation. I agree that NSG has been scumhunting very softly so far (not even one vote yet?). But perhaps nothing has pinged her scumdar very strongly yet. Something to keep an eye on.In post 111, Ausuka wrote:Spoiler: Sesq
I personally wouldn't jump to town lean/read yet. I wanted sesq to open up about their s/read of me, because right now I'm wondering if he actually realises his scum read/vote of me is not actually supported with anything tangible, and not possessing the town-humility to unvote (...states reasons why I'm town, but then posts "vote stays")Didn't like him describing his own play/posting as "nuanced", as if he's super aware of it (that's probably just a pet-hate of mine though). He remains near null for me. Let's see if he can share more solid thoughts/reads.
In post 111, Ausuka wrote:Spoiler: 2 718281828459 (replaced Saudade)
I must put my hand up and admit the development of his scum read does look town-ieshBut I cannot get past him saying "Why is Keyser wanting to limit the forbidden topic to page 1?" as if that was scum alignment indicative. I'm not convinced 2.718 is town yet. I'd like him to explain what he meant when he presented this narrative about me being scum-in-panic-mode...?
In post 126, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 124, Sesq wrote:okay it feels like nobody gets that post which is fine because i could have formatted it better. i said "yeah hes probably town" and the last words were "wait no, i think hes scum." and previously i have seen productive things out of scumreading without explanations so its something i try to use, although devotion to the ideal should be contextual
the main problem i have with his play is that it feels like he is walking into the game with a heavy amount of rigid thinking over what can and cannot be discussed and how things should or should not go. i think this is a scum playstyle because in rigidity you can form solid ideas to build off of that dont require the sort of improvisational fervour one needs as a scumplayer without strategy. that said the goals are seemingly cryptic and i dont really understand them, and it could be a weird fusion of learned behaviors influenced by past results in games, but i havent played with him before so i dont know. feel comfortable on it for now.
Hey sesq, problem is I can see both scum and town being frustrated with you if you’re “scumreading without explanations” - how do you differentiate the “reactions”?
In post 254, volxen wrote:So Apparently, having reads and trying to help gamesolve is scummier than, say, doing absolutely nothing and actively lurking while being blatantly apathetic about it. Let’s look at 2.718’s, Toranaga’s and Sesq’s recent posts:
2.718:
in 182, he declares that nothing is worth his attention. I mean, what exactly was the purpose of this post? To prod dodge? Or is it more along the lines of “hey I probably could gamesolve, but it’s just not worth my time”? Whatever the case, it certainly didn’t contribute anything. Blatant active lurking and apathy.
And then in 215, he asks “everyone else” to get some wagons going because he finds the game to be getting “boring”. So rather than doing something productive himself, he is simply expecting everyone else to produce content. Again, blatant active lurking and apathy.
In 231, instead of helping to gamesolve he gives excuses for why he isn’t helping to gamesolve. Blatant active lurking and apathy.
Toranaga:
In 190, he literally admits to not having any interest in this game and blames it on everyone else. Again, a case of someone expecting everyone else to make the game interesting, rather than producing meaningful content themselves. Blatant active lurking and apathy.
In 192 he namedrops me, Sesq, and 2.718 as his scumreads, only to say that he could case all of us, if only he had the motivation to do so. He’s carrying himself with this “I don’t give a shit about this game, but if I did I could easily gamesolve the whole thing” attitude. Blatant active lurking and apathy.
218 and 241 are just fluffposts.
In 243, he once again reinforces his lack of motivation in this game. Blatant active lurking and apathy.
Sesq:
He votes for me in 222, with no explanation other than “Yeah, I can see that”. Then in 249, he declares that he might as well vote for me because, hey, he didn’t have any of his own scumreads anyways. What is he trying to say here, that he doesn’t think for himself and try to gamesolve, but rather just goes with the flow? Blatant active lurking and apathy.
We’ve got multiple people who are engaged in blatant active lurking and complete apathy towards this game, and yet I’m the first one to even bring it up in this post. Why is that?