Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia Endgame
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
Going to spoil this:
Spoiler: pages 1-3
Spoiler: pages 4-5
Spoiler: pages 6-9
OK I got up to page 9; I'll continue this probably tomorrow night.
townlean: mylo, mutant, nk15, ruby red in roughly that order
scumlean: hebichan, 123, tazaro
Not sure: duckling hydra; need to interact with the duckling probably. Like I like the party itself and the tenets they proposed but I'm not sure if I actually townread the slot.
Everyone else I don't feel like I have good feel for yet
tyty and ausuka too!In post 541, Aronis wrote:
Congratulations on graduating.In post 538, skitter30 wrote:Hi!
I finished finals so I have time to play this now! I shall get around to reading this soon. Also I'm semi v/la this weekend specifically because I'm graduating, but I should have lots more time come Monday!
What political party are you gonna join?
wrt parties, thoughts as of where I'm up to:
mutant - I probably townread him the most of the candidates but I don't think that his party is particularly tenable; I don't think that he is going to be president, and I'd rather support someone I townread + I think can become president
nk15 - I townread but I disagree with the tenets of the party and like he's never becoming president on that campaign
anime hydra - I don't know if I particularly townread them but I like the tenets of their party, and like their strategies for sorting people and looking for scum, and like that they want input from others when making their decision.
rubyred - I think her opener + aggressive campaigning probably doesn't come from scum her but like ... she's running on a slogan basically. I'm not sure how she's going to fulfill her promise, or what happens if she fails to do so.
wheme's - A party who's fundemental tenet is shitposting is just meh and like I think we can do better.
or tldr: probably fighting dreamers, maybe ruby.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
I think most mods would probably give you a PT if you asked for one but that's a really good point wrt PR results actually.In post 556, mutantdevle wrote:Personally, I'd encourage anyone who doesn't like any of the current parties to form their own. Not for campaigning though.
2 benefits I can list off the top of my head is that you get a PT to document your thoughts and if any PRs decide to out information using the crier ability then the more party leaders we have the harder it will be for scum to work out who sent it.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
OK thoughts on things from where I left off through where I repped in:
Spoiler:
OK, after I repped in:
hebichan, 560 - ok, who specifically do you think might be trying to do that?
Whoops, I very badly misread that convo lolIn post 562, Invisibility wrote:Skitter I was talking about the player 123456789
ruby, 565 - I guess my point is that you're promising to lynch scum but I don't really know who you think is scum atm; I didn't really like that you didn't answer aronis when he asked you who would hammer given that you're literally running on that. Like I want to support someone I think is likely to win the presidency + town + competent + has reads that semi-align with my own (or failing that, isn't going to kill someone I majorly townread) and while I think you're competant in a general sense, I don't know specifically what you want to do here.
It was just that from those 9 pages; it looked to me like invisibility was referencing a post (that he had written) that you didn't go back and check so it looked like you were just asking inane questions that you didn't actually care about. I didn't put together that he meant you cuz I've been thinking of you as 'ircher' or 'numbers dude' in my head.In post 606, 123456789 wrote:Is this really the only reason why you have me at a scumlean or was there something else in those first 9 pages?
Can you talk a bit more about your FD read? I was kinda following 724 and weren't you townreading SIMYK there?
--
after rereading the mechanics post I don't really think joining a party if you aren't a candidate actually means anything beyond being in a PT tbh, especially since joining a party doesn't mean that you pledge your vote to that candidate or anything. Like publicly declaring to join a party doesn't actually mean anything since you can still vote for whoever you want in the actual election. I think a lot of this is basically a distraction from the actual point of the game, which is to find scum; this mechanic kinda enables people to forget that by encouraging them to focus on the campaigning thing.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
I think I have a pretty good handle on my read of you; I'm pretty sure you're town, basing it off of splatoon. Like even this last post I just can't imagine you making as scum given that you basically lurked your way through splatoon and only posted a bit when heavily prodded by other players and the mod. You just feel a lot more *present* here than there and it just feels totally different. Like I just dont' see splatoon!you lol-changing the name of the district like that.
I want to talk to those three because I'm trying to decide whose party I should support. I townread mutant the most but I don't think he wins president here like ever; not sure if I should take his advice to start my own party.
I kinda townread ruby's opening because I'm pretty sure she doesn't start the game like that as scum but I'm a bit concerned that she hasn't been around that much since then, and that I don't really have a good feel for who her scumreads are; given that she's running on 'lynch scum day 1' I'm not sure that's a good sign. And like I literally never read her right.
I'm tending towards the duckling hydra since I like their party tenants and I think they're competant and I like that they'll take input from everyone. I don't have such a good read on them now, but I think I can get a feel for the duckling somewhat if I interact with him, which is why I wanted to know if he's online.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
I think that realistically you aren't being president this phase so I'd rather vote someone I think can win and who I think will be competant and inclusive when deciding who to hammerIn post 627, mutantdevle wrote:If you wanna join my party all that's in it for you is seeing what I've done so far in regards to the district placement and if you stay then you get to see how that progresses and maybe I'll share some of my private thoughts with you.
But other than that, I think you should either join SASKE & the worst or form your own party. Ruby's party's only appeal is a promise they have no realistic way of guaranteeing the delivery of, and that makes me not trust it.
I'm tending towards thinking the same way about ruby, so I think I'll probably be voting dreamers. Also wrt ruby like I'm not super confident she won't do something like lolhammer someone; she lolfaked a guilty as town last time I played with her
I mean, tbf, all the candidates I'm actually considering have said they would take input from others.In post 628, Not Known 15 wrote:You should vote for me. I will ensure maximum partipiciants for all decisions and will ask everyone to give their - reasoned thoughts on lynch candidates. I will not quickhammer. I actually have given you these assurances so you can be sure that I will not do something like that. For the others... you don't have those assurances.
duckling!!!!!In post 629, FIGHTING DREAMERS wrote:SKITTER30!!!!!!
I'm still around. Sorry for this weekend been town with a nasty cold.
ill catch up and re engage tomorrow. Wanna see skitter's thoughts on catching up
feel better!!!!
Yeah this is basically what I feel about dreamers; I'm not sure wrt their alignment but like there's no way I want them gone day1 cuz if they're town they'll be a really big asset; I think that voting in wheme today is a really, really, really bad idea tbh
I wasn't *super* following that game except for when math decided I was someone's alt, so you're saying that you got them later there and that you think you'll be able to figure them out later on here?In post 640, 123456789 wrote:The idea isn't that I trust my ability to read them NOW but more as to LATER.
fire, what do you think about fighting dreamers?In post 646, Firebringer wrote:the whole shit posting party needs to vote whemestar.
if ur not in the shit posting party u should still vote whemestar- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
I mean, the last time I played with you (on this alt specifically for obvious reasons) you decided to fakeclaim a guilty as town for the lolz, and after that I'm supposed to trust that you'll competently decide who to hammer because .... ?In post 652, Ruby Red wrote:my feelings are hurt
and also thisis a bullshit reason not to vote fo rme
Like I get why you don't like his plan but it just feels so out there to me that I think it's more likely than not to come from town tbhIn post 667, FIGHTING DREAMERS wrote:I think my LAMIST call was more distaste than genuinely scum indicative; currently NK15 is p well middle of my list
ruby's aggression is more likely playstyle and imo comes from annoyed town before scum
ausuka, what do you think about ircher?In post 670, FIGHTING DREAMERS wrote:Ausuka has a great ability to read him and is also obvtown.
I mean, he is aggressively playing the game - he's trying to get you lynched and he's screaming his intent to do so from the rooftops. From what I've seen this kinda matches his personality? Like are you having trouble with the fact that he's so laser-minded focused on one person or that he's focusing on *you* in particular?In post 671, FIGHTING DREAMERS wrote:I'm a bit worried by wheme like aggressively not playing the game
I feel like I'm spewing town every time I post even though I've had little energy : (
I feel like Ruby is ... slightly wildcardy? but also town? and who cares about the fact there's scum in her party if the scum in her party are obvious?
Who do you think the obvious scum are in ruby's party? Wheme, who do you think the obvious scum are in ruby's party?
That's a good point, and I'll def take that into consideration for next round!In post 677, mutantdevle wrote:
Joining someone's party doesn't mean you have to vote for them. You're welcome to join my party but vote for someone more likely be elected if you wantIn post 648, skitter30 wrote:I think that realistically you aren't being president this phase so I'd rather vote someone I think can win and who I think will be competant and inclusive when deciding who to hammer
+1In post 683, Edosurist wrote:There's no good reason to keep our votes secret after the totals are released, right? If not just a way to hold people accountable, it's probably the closest thing we've got to VCA.
I ultiamtely voted FD- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
ok iirc math thinks you have a really good track record at reading him, and the duckling thinks so too, so I'm fine outsourcing that to you for now.In post 688, Ausuka wrote:I think that ircher is town.
<3In post 691, mutantdevle wrote:I voted skitter
If I read it correctly vote *totals* per district will be revealed, so I think we'll see something like 'Theme Park' - three for player A, two for player B, etc. And if there are more votes than players in that district, we'll know that fraud occurred in that district. So we'll like have a pool of say {size of district} players that may have committed fraud. For one election that might not be super useful, but tabulated over several we should be able to get something useful out of it imo.In post 692, mutantdevle wrote:If they do that we can simply look at how the votes don't reflect what's been claimed. If I'm thinking about this correctly, we'll be able to narrow down who lied to the specific district they are in. That's super valuable information. Scum aren't stupid enough to give us that level of info. Furthermore, by outing our votes it reduces the chance that scum will double vote. Because if they do, we can see which districts have unclaimed votes and know scum are in those districts.
That's assuming I'm understanding the mechanics correctly.
I'd like to think we could have everyone announce their vote before the results are revealed to minimise scum's ability to lie. But I guess that's an unrealistic expectation of the town.
I think it's a good idea to implement a policy of having people say who they voted before the end of election day.
ofrhz!!!!
hi hi hi!!- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
so to summarize:
Spoiler:
--
lol I didn't campaign or run and I got just as many districts as you did.In post 728, Ruby Red wrote:i keep looking at this and i just get so fucking mad
or maybe disappointed
--
I'm a little weirded out that he claims he didn't vote but his district is still missing a vote *even if he did*. Like even if he's just lying about voting there's still something fucky going on in that district.In post 731, mutantdevle wrote:Actually, before I got, HURT: 123456789.
They have NO reason to vote Edosurist. They've barely mentioned them all game and when they have they've always disagreed with them.
Now, why 123456789 and not Edosurist who is in the double voting scum lynch pool? Well, it's still possible that Edosurist is town and this is scum trying to frame them by double voting and having an 'anonymous' vote on Edosurist hence trying to pin them as mafia. Alternatively, Edosurist IS scum with 123456789. Either way, the common link is 123456789.
--
I feel like you're just kinda like *being* and it's almost like absolving yourself of doing anything useful by pushing a shitposting platform. (p-edit, firebringer too, although from what I know of him that's kinda inline with his personality in general)In post 743, Wraith wrote:No amount of state repression will destroy the dream of the shitposter's paradise
what are your thoughts on dreamers?
--
I mean, did you think that edo had a chance of getting it? Why do you think edo would have been a better president than, say, wheme or taz?In post 753, 123456789 wrote:Eh, it wasn't completely random. Some people had a more likely chance of being selected than others. And some people (like Wheme and Tazaro) didn't make the list at all because I thought they would be really bad presidents. (Like, really really bad.)- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
Yes, I largely agree with you on wheme and taz; I guess I'm just confused why you picked edo out of everyone. Like in this game we can't really vote who to lynch; we can only vote who the prez is who will then vote who to lynch, and like, voting edo yesterday almost feels like a waste to a vote to me, especially in a district that's like totally up for grabs.In post 759, 123456789 wrote:
It was more or less me not paying too much attn to Edo. As far as to getting it, no, I didn't think it likely.In post 758, skitter30 wrote:I mean, did you think that edo had a chance of getting it? Why do you think edo would have been a better president than, say, wheme or taz?
Wheme is too busy having fun versus actually getting scum lynched. That makes for a bad president.
Tazaro was being kinda crazy earlier in the game, and that makes me uncomfortable in trusting a vote in their hands; they seemed like the kind of people that would impulsively lynch someone just for disagreeing with them or having a playstyle that irritates them; i.e.: for policy reasons and policy reasons alone.
Like I guess I just don't get why you think voting edo may have been a better option; if you really wanted to force a tie why not vote mutant or nk15 or something to at least like utilize your vote?
--
why on hebi and nico?In post 764, Blind Bandits wrote:U didnt say who the scum in rubys party is
because it isnt ausuka or nicorobin or hebi or us
--
These are my thoughts:In post 774, mutantdevle wrote:Well, Edo's comments are blatantly lying. Unless, of course, there are 2 mafias amongst the rest of them, both of who voted twice, one of which voted for 2 different people. <-- yeah that doesn't seem likely at all.
@Edo, why are you lying to us?
I'm really confused why he's claiming not to vote when it's kinda apparent that something weird happened here, even if *he did* vote. Like he's either telling the truth, in which case we're missing two votes, or he's lying about voting for FD, in which case we're missing one. I just don't get what benefit he has to lie about not voting at all given that the district is weird even if he's telling the truth.In post 758, skitter30 wrote:OK, so there's only five players in this district (edo, taz, hebichan, mylo, ruby), and six votes:
edo claimed to not vote
taz seems to be implying they voted FD (742)
hebichan voted for ruby
mylo voted for wheme
ruby voted for herself.
So we have four claimed votes for six announced votes, and we're missing two FD votes. I'm guessing at least one person frauded for FD here. It doesn't really make sense for ruby to have, and I feel like mylo wouldn't really do that? And hebi voted for ruby so frauding for FD is just ???? So I guess that either taz frauded, or edo voted but lied about it, or there's some mechanic that enables people to fraud outside of their district, or soemthing else entirely. But we need two of these things to hold true in order to explain the vote spread.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
People within the 'possible fraud'/lolvoters group:In post 794, FIGHTING DREAMERS wrote:@skitter30, dayplay and fraud together : who would you put down today?
edo - they said they didn't vote when the vote totals clearly indicated that something fucky happened there, and that they literally haven't said a word since.
ircher - given the edo stuff, I'm a little weirded out the the person he lolvoted for is edo because there wasn't a chance in hell that edo would actually get the presidency even if he won that district through a tiebreaker, and ircher doesn't seem to think that edo would have been a good president anyways so I'm not sure why he threw a vote there, even if he *did* want to test the tiebreaker system - there were other candidates that he was townreading more. My main hesitation here is that math thinks ausuka can read him and ausuka thinks he's town.
mylo - I don't really think mylo frauded tbh. I'm pretty sure mylo's just loltown
hebi - I didn't really like that she was focusing on the district displacements way back when, but since all the ruby votes are accounted for and nobody else is claiming to have voted for ruby she'd have to have voted ruby but frauded for you for the vote total to make sense and that's just kinda ? because she doesn't seem to be supporting you.
taz - is just like ??? and so out of it that it's hard for me to figure out what they're going on about because the words they're saying don't make much sense to me; given their support for you I wouldn't be surprised if they frauded for you even as town tbh. I really have no idea how to read them. Like I don't scumread them or townread them; they just are, and I honestly don't think frauding is like AI for them. I don't want them like anywhere near lylo but I don't explicilty scumread them, if that makes sense.
Significant thoughts outside the fraud group:
wraith/fire - Their main contributions thus far have been supporting the shitposting party. Since wheme wants to nuke you, I'm kinda wondering if either of them is trying to prop up wheme in order to get that to happen and let wheme be responsible for the fallout. I couldn't get either of them to elaborate on a read on you even though I asked a bunch of times. That might be a personality thing from fire though given the last game I played with him; I don't know anything about wraith
ruby - I think her opening was super strong and very unlikely to come from scum her but she hasn't been posting as much since then or keeping that up which is making me a little more hesitant to trust her entrance.
mutant - just town I think - he was thinking what I was thinking as I caught up, and I don't think his thing with fire over fire not answering who he's played with happens if he's scum planning the districts because I don't think he'd *care* that much as scum about not having this info
iconeum/ofrhz - I think iconeum siteflaked but kinda concerned that ofrhz hasn't said anything since repping in; could be an irl/busyness thing but he was super active in that newbie I played with him.
you - you don't seem to be as *present* or *into* this game as I'm used to, which is weirding me out a bit. I wasn't able to get such a good handle for you from when I caught up and you haven't been around super much since then.
wheme - clearly not scum with you lol. Beyond that I can't really read players like him in general. I only played with him the once (we were both town) and he wasn't really like aggressively pushing an agenda with his every post; he was more go-with-the-flow-y and self-interested (like he didn't care who got lynched so long as it wasn't him or the slot he was lovers with. Hey now that I think about it jjh modded that game too lol). I don't feel super comfortable depending on that meta though since he wasn't super engaged in that game and I don't have enough experience to know if a loltunnel is something town!him or scum!him is more likely to do.
nk15 - probably town - I think his proposal on the surface is super pro-town but like nobody's ever going to go along with it because it flouts the special mechanics and takes away some of the fun. I'm not really townreading him for the proposal though, more for the fact that he *keeps pushing it* even though it's like never happening in this gamestate. It's too clueless to come from scum because I don't think that scum keeps pushing something that unpopular, especially not with partners and daytalk; I feel like if he didn't actually believe what he was pushing he'd probably have switched to a party that's less controversial.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
Does anybody know if it's AI for edo or nico to flake? I'll check if I have a chance later
I basically agree with thisIn post 819, mutantdevle wrote:However, I do think there is scum amongst the double voting pool and this is the order I believe is most likely scum to least likely scum:
Edosurist > Tazaro > Hebichan > Myloninja13
Are you townreading FD? Why do you think scum *didn't* have much impact on the election?In post 830, Ruby Red wrote:@ducky what do you think of the election
are we in a sitaution where scum just didnt have much control or what
is that what shappening
yes, can you please?In post 833, jjh927 wrote:I could be more vocal about exactly when I'm prodding people If you all care about that
I think that it's prob best to get a claim tbhIn post 834, WhemeStar wrote:Just lynch who cares about a replacement
Why are you treating that as a townslip? Cuz he didn't know you were a hydra?In post 849, the worst wrote:from someone who doesn't really believe in townslips I'm going to treat it as an interim townslip
if you were me who would you kill today?
Is asking for help scum-indicative?In post 850, WhemeStar wrote:LOOK AT THAT
THE PRESIDENT YOU GUYS ELECTED IS ASKJNG OTHERS FOR HELP AKA ME AND FIRE
WHY ASK US FOR HELP WHEN YOU COULD OF JUST ENDORSED US FOR PRESIDENT?
HUH SCUM?- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
It feels almost too easy though, idk. Literally no one's objected, not even on the grounds of 'let's not lynch a lurker'In post 886, Firebringer wrote:
Ehh only people who don’t like lynching lurkers is going to speak up.In post 884, skitter30 wrote:I'm a little bit suspicious of the lack of resistance to the edo thing tbh
Not really alignment indicative either- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
Fire and wraith aren't scum together; I doubt that *both* of them decide to join the shitposting party and like aggressively, transparently prop up wheme's agenda. I also don't think that wheme/fire or wheme/wraith is a thing because I don't think that scum puts most of their eggs in the one basket that didn't really have a chance of catching on. I think most likely that if there's scum in that group that it's fire or wraith using wheme to push youIn post 889, the worst wrote:I was more intending to be savage than to be factual but like
he's aggressively tunnelling my slot to the point of being useless but it probably comes from town I guess
you're just not doing anything so it's more of a null use thing
but now you're doing stuff
--
Yes; when the entire game is basically fine with something, that's a red flag that *scum* is basically fine with it. I can point to bunches of times where something similar happened: that the *entire game* was cool with lynching someone, and I pointed out that the groupthink thing/wagon/push was gross, and it was in fact *on town*.In post 903, hebichan wrote:you're objecting on the grounds of people not objecting enough.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huaB3RtppMk[/youtube]
OK, I actually did my hw:
breaking bad mafia - sk - got lynched day2 after he claimed
newbie 1814 - town - flaked day2 and got replaced
micro 729 - scum - got prodded a few times, had long strings of inactivity (ISO is full of things like 'here's my catchup post', 'sorry for being absent', etc), got lynched eventually.
micro 718 - town - got prodded a few times, almost got replaced, ISO again is full of things like 'sorry for being v/la', 'I promise content tonight', etc
micro 706 - town - got endgamed, again, similar things in his ISO to the two games above
micro 701 - seems to be kinda bastard and he was a 'jester "town" cop variant' or something who achieved his wincon day3; ircher ran it so maybe he can clarify - most active game by far; none of those 'v/la' type things in his ISO
mini 1910 - town - got endgamed; seemed to be pretty active
I got bored around here but basically activity doesn't seem to be AI here, contrary to 901
--
I wouldn't be surprised if he double voted as town tbh.In post 908, the worst wrote:@Wraith I love the Cause and the Motherland and I love all men equally but.... our relationship needs work
Taz isn't impossible for a double vote. let me check if I'm thinking of party pt stuff but his stance on gamestate is OK.
--
I don't think that anyone is proposing ruby getting lynched tbh. Also in this playerlist I kinda think that town might lolfraud even if it's wildly proclaimed to be a scumclaimIn post 915, hebichan wrote:Preferably not me or ruby, but if it helps catch the doublevoters sooner, go for it.
--
I don't really townread 123 but I think we ought to defer to the people that have a history of reading him properly like ausuka.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
In post 942, ofrhz wrote:I'm basically all caught up, but I don't really have anything new to add lol
I think we should lynch in the New York district with edos being my top pick, tazaro, then hebichan
---
Where do you think we should lynch todayIn post 891, Tazaro wrote:
I already said the consensus is disgustingIn post 887, the worst wrote: the general comfort with lynching Edo is pinging me as well.
Do you have any especial scumreads or townreads after catching up? Because this feels kinda consensus-y and vague-question-y.
Honestly, not really. I have lot of trouble reading players when I can't parse what they're trying to say. He was saying a lot of ???? things earlier, although now he's basicallyIn post 943, ofrhz wrote:Ignoring the double voting issue for a sec, do you have an independent read on him
As an aside, I think double voting is PL worthy this game
I'm a little bit concerned that he's so quickly and strongly supported TW and that he's encouraging him to like lolshoot wherever he wants.
Like I'm not sure why he thinks a strategy of TW 'just kill[ing] one of {all members of the game who are not the president}' is a good way to hit scum, or why he thinks TW's opinion is the only one that matters. (I mean, yes, mechanically his *is* the only one that matters, but I don't know why he thinks the rest of our opinions don't count towards that aim or why he thinks TW's opinions specifically are more likely to be correct than anyone else's)In post 948, Tazaro wrote:Mr. President (now one half of the previous hydra president if anybody hasn't noticed), Sir Dcckarthy, forget about justifying who to kill to the rest of us and just kill one of {all members of the game who are not the president}. The only aim that matters is to kill scum, and the opinions of the rest of us are dung compared to that aim.
Did you know that FD was a hydra?In post 947, Aronis wrote:The president literally got replaced. Wow yall really screwed up. We could've just elected and replaced Harambe, would've been just as easy
I'll join if I can but I'm pretty sure you can only change parties during the campaigning phase.In post 961, mutantdevle wrote:@modcan players change parties during this phase?
If so, then @Skitter if you are considering joining my party I would recommend doing it now so that you can still use your party changing ability tomorrow.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
like i said, the lack of resistance to the edo thing was a major red flag given that basically nobody objected to it. given that he did indeed flip town and claimed that he didn't vote, i can't imagine that he frauded, in which case there's two missing votes from that district.
there were:
three votes for dreamers
two votes for ruby
one vote for wheme
people claimed:
edo didn't vote (presumably at all)
taz voted for FD
ruby voted for herself
hebi voted for ruby
mylo voted for wheme
so we're still missing two FD votes and apparently hebi cast one of them given the fraud jjh announced below and the above claims. I'm not really sure why she claims to have voted for ruby but then frauded for FD. we're still missing one for FD so presumably it's from {taz/mylo} given that edo apparently didn't vote and i can't imagine ruby frauding for fd here. I'd bet taz given the support mylo had for wheme yesterday.
--
i kinda doubt that scum targeted the nico slot given that they were a major lurker and said basically nothing all game, so this would imply that they shot tw and the replacement protected him and died in his stead; if true, that makes tw town since scum targeted him.In post 1043, jjh927 wrote:zMuffinMan died during the night. He was aPresidential Bodyguard.
Spoiler: Role PM
Hebichan has been convicted of the grievous offence of electoral fraud, and must now pay the price for her crime and may no longer stand as a candidate in an election.
i don't think that checking for fraud is an inherently scum ability; i feel like there's probably a town PR with a similar ability as that scum ability in order to counter any frauding scum may do.
like she def lied, which makes me think she's very likely to be scum. if she's scum, and scum did it, I think that there's inherently a WIFOM factor at play here: it's possible scum wanted us to think 'oh, she's def conf!town since they frauded her and frauding one of their own is ???'.
--
i'm kinda concerned that you're treating her like an IC because of this tbh; like she frauded for no obvious purpose which is majorly sketchy in this context, and i really see no reason to clear her for thisIn post 1050, Aronis wrote:Nooooo hebichan is like confirmed town now. Not scum
--
i agree pretty much with the worst, disagree with hebi, agree with B because the last lynching phase or whatever it was called slogged for like forever, and C is incredibly vagueIn post 1060, Aronis wrote:Announce Candidacy: Bull Moose Party
I'm running on
A. Not killing hebichan or the worst
B. An efficient government (we'll decide a lynch in 72 hours or less)
C. Killing Mafia
--
i think it's possible that there is such a town pr, and that they were ones who checked hebi yesterday; if such a pr exists, they def should check taz next.In post 1061, mutantdevle wrote:I do believe there is probably a town PR that functions in this way. Someone with this town PR would check within Hebichan, Taz and myloninja.
If someone does have this town PR and they targetted either Taz or myloninja, I'd strongly ask them to check the other tonight and tell us the result tomorrow. Even with Hebichan's vote we still have 1 unaccounted for vote if we assume Edosurist really didn't vote at all like he claimed. Now, either 1 of Taz or myloninja double voted or Edosurist actually voted. This plan gives us the solution to that.
mutantdevel, i think i will probably be joining your oddly spelled 'mutante' party
--
@ruby can you vote in both districts? i don't remember
--
In post 1082, Aronis wrote:
As far as I'm concerned this is a horrible idea. Elect me President and we will shut down the corrupt politicians and misguided townies that want to string together a long chain of townies lynches.In post 1080, Wraith wrote:I only managed to get about halfway through a catch-up.
However as far as I am concerned Tazaro, Hebi, and Ruby are marked for death until one flips scum. Starting with Tazaro.In post 1083, Aronis wrote:You all tried your 'lynch pool' strategy yesterday. You elected the SNK party leader and enabled the worst presidency. We saw a leadership that was incapable of functioning properly. It was plagued by indecisiveness and it led to a town lynch. Don't let that happen again. Vote Aronis and say goodbye to this horrific lynch pool that is going to give way to townie after townie dying and embrace a better future where we lynch scum.
besides protecting tw and hebi, who do you actually want to lynch? you sound like ruby yesterday. like it sounds like your party is more concerned with protecting tw/hebi than actually figuring out who scum is
--
i mean, this is a meh excuse. you wanted reactions so you did something that people pretty much universaly acknowledged to be a scum claim? and like you voted for both even though you wanted ruby?In post 1085, hebichan wrote:
I was making a gambit.In post 1047, mutantdevle wrote:@Hebichan, why didn't you confess to your double vote yesterday?
I wanted to see the reactions of the rest of my district when I double-voted, and after there was a second double vote in my district I felt like I had to keep it up to weed out the other double voter. I was honestly planning on admitting to it until Edo claimed to not vote. Knowing the math still didn't add up made me think Edo was lying, and I didn't want to out my gambit and take attention off that slot and onto me.
I'm still really confused honestly, I thought our district and the overall presidential vote would go to Ruby, so I split my vote between FD and Ruby to get some reads.
But Edo flipping town really confuses me, since that means someone else still double voted in our district, or Edo was lying.
honestly i'm kinda thinking that you wanted FD to get it? that district was only decided by the one vote, right? if you actually wanted ruby and wanted the reactions of other people in your district upon seeing an extra vote, why didn't you just like ... vote for ruby?
and like you did it to get reads but like ... you don't seem to have like formed any reads from this reaction test or come to any conclusions thereof.
--
i mean, i'm pretty sure i pointed out the gamestate was indicating that it was probably mislynch and that it was in his town meta to flakeIn post 1088, the worst wrote:also I know this is a #badpost but fuck all of y'all for that lynch- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
the fact that you had it narrowed down to {edo/hebi} and picked edo after hebi had frauded for you is not really a good look tbh.In post 1106, the worst wrote:
Please accept this post as an "unfuck you", you were indeed highly legit about the Edo situationIn post 1103, skitter30 wrote: i mean, i'm pretty sure i pointed out the gamestate was indicating that it was probably mislynch and that it was in his town meta to flake- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
because there were two extra votes in that district, both for you, which gave you that district and in turn the presidency.In post 1114, the worst wrote: I wish I'd killed Hebichan. my gut was screaming to but my reads are normally awful so I'd committed myself to trying to talk to my townreads first.
considering nearly the entire player list was encouraging me to execute Edos and I don't trust myself to make an independent good choice what's not good about it?
also not even gonna go into why Hebi and I are not scum yet
she admits to having frauded for you and you used that power to deliberately *not* lynch her, but instead lynch the consensus mislynch, and you're now falling back on the the excuse of 'nearly the entire player list was encouraging me' to do it.
--
because ... ?In post 1115, Firebringer wrote:the worst and hebichan and aronis are town.
--
i mean, i don't think that you should like ever be president here irregardless of your alignment, but you do realize that with the way the districts were distributed logistically there's like no way you get elected, right? actually now that i think about it that's prob town-indcative. or that they don't want tw lynched. or both.In post 1121, WhemeStar wrote:Make me president t
--
this basically. also that she lied. also that she hasn't, like, actually made any reads based on this reaction test.In post 1128, Wraith wrote:"I committed voter fraud for someone not in my own fucking party when I could have secured a fraudulent majority for my party instead and that guy got elected and executed town and I did it for reactions" is one of the scummiest fucking fakeclaims I have ever read in my life.
--
in the interest of being thorough, i'm pretty sure you can vote; you just can't stand as a candidate.In post 1135, hebichan wrote:It looks like Ruby could win more than worst. Specially if you're worried about me, since I can't vote.
We're also not 100% on taz being the other double voter. Just pretty sure.
--
i think i would vote you if you ran, but i wouldn't vote for wheme because he apparently thinks aronis/tw/hebi are all town.In post 1139, Wraith wrote:I urge the town to vote for the SPP candidate.
what do you think about fire?- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
no, i understand that that post was a memepost; with the 'nearly entire player list was encouraging me' bit i was referring to:In post 1144, the worst wrote:
I find it difficult to believe this is actually how you view my behaviour. I think you're being a devils advocate / contrary for the sake of it. have a read of FD/my ISO around the replace and the lynch if you actually believe this.In post 1143, skitter30 wrote:because there were two extra votes in that district, both for you, which gave you that district and in turn the presidency.
she admits to having frauded for you and you used that power to deliberately *not* lynch her, but instead lynch the consensus mislynch, and you're now falling back on the the excuse of 'nearly the entire player list was encouraging me' to do it.
i was pointing out that you had hebi in your lynchpool for most of that phase yesterday, and you kept mentioning that you found her scummy (734,911, 988), but that you ultimately voted out someone else. that by itself isn't inherently a problem; it's more that this happened *in the context of* the fact that she frauded for you (and majorly contributed to you winning the election) and that you kept bringing her up as being sketchy but decided not to lynch her.In post 1114, the worst wrote:considering nearly the entire player list was encouraging me to execute Edos and I don't trust myself to make an independent good choice what's not good about it?- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
as far as i can tell from the rules, any player can double-vote; i don't think it's an inherently town abilityIn post 1150, Aronis wrote:
No, I don't realize that. It seems like a fantastic town role to me.In post 1120, 123456789 wrote: You realize that on a mechanical level, this doesn't really make logical sense, right?
--
ok i reread your/FD's ISO, specifically around the rep out, and starting from when around SIMYK flaked i agree it looks like you didn't really want it and that you wanted ruby to have it instead of you but that you were kinda stuck in a position of already having a lot of support that you didn't know how to turn away, and that this kinda resulted in bit of a lame duck (wow i'm good at puns lololol) presidency where you didn't have the support from the hydra partner that you were expecting.In post 1149, the worst wrote:Skitter i don't trust my own ability to read well enough to actually want to be king in kingmaker. I think I was pretty transparent about that.
encouraging my scumhubby Hebi to fraud for me then subtly shading her of all people towards the end of the day would be terrible. there are a lot of people yday who would have been very easy to position as mislynches over Hebi, who was actually presenting as trying.
are you seriously still NAGLing me/Hebi?
i think that the frustration at getting it when you didn't really want to more likely than not comes from town tbh, but i don't really want you to be president today, no offense.
what was bothering me about hebi is that you kept conspicuously mentioning your read on her (like a lot more than other people) but didn't really do anything about it
math's stack-the-deck kinda taught me the perils of assuming why/how prs (specifically bg's) died tbhIn post 1156, the worst wrote:that's a good feeling skitter why are you still shading Hebi/me interactions after that flip?
although i'd feel kinda bad fucking up on something like this twice tho
i'm just having a lot of trouble putting together the notions of {scum wanted to kill you} and {scum decided to dismantle the spp party, which incidentally wanted to kill you} into one coherent picture that explains why both of these things happened because as is these don't really make much sense together.
--
yeah i was wondering where that came from lolIn post 1162, mutantdevle wrote:
It's a reference to how people kept calling me mutante in a previous gameIn post 1103, skitter30 wrote:i think i will probably be joining your oddly spelled 'mutante' party
--
this is actually a pretty good point.In post 1166, Not Known 15 wrote:probably because they tried to kill the party leader and were stopped by a bodyguard - they probably drew the districts with a dead the worst in mind.
Spoiler:
if we look at the distributions and how people voted yesterday tho, that actually seems to place most of the districts into question on the assumption that they were planning tw to be dead today.
-> theme park is up in the air if tw is dead, with taz of all people probably being the decided factor
-> coney isalnd is a shoe-in for ruby if blind bandits votes the same way
-> turns out i'm an idiot has me, aronis, mylo, and hebi. mylo probably votes for wheme, hebi frauded for tw. aronis is literally a wild card who didn't vote yesterday, and i voted for tw. this also seems kinda up in the air if tw is dead
-> mayfair club depends on where ofrhz votes
-> and central park is also up in the air if fd is dead and depends on 123 and invisiblity
it seems that given the current district placements, things become more chaotic if tw is dead; it turns several of the districts into tossups.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
i find that quite unlikely given his role; i just don't want to preclude the possibility that he like loltargeted or somethingIn post 1180, the worst wrote:
do you think muffin might have targeted someone else?In post 1170, skitter30 wrote:math's stack-the-deck kinda taught me the perils of assuming why/how prs (specifically bg's) died tbh
although i'd feel kinda bad fucking up on something like this twice tho- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
???In post 1183, the worst wrote:
.....and then who comes in with shade throwing and a new party?In post 1170, skitter30 wrote:it seems that given the current district placements, things become more chaotic if tw is dead; it turns several of the districts into tossups.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
i meant that they randomly killed him, not that he randomly targeted anyone else. there literally wasn't anyone else he could have targeted besides for youIn post 1187, the worst wrote:
suppose he lol targeted who do you think he might've gone for? just hypotheticallyIn post 1184, skitter30 wrote:
i find that quite unlikely given his role; i just don't want to preclude the possibility that he like loltargeted or somethingIn post 1180, the worst wrote:
do you think muffin might have targeted someone else?In post 1170, skitter30 wrote:math's stack-the-deck kinda taught me the perils of assuming why/how prs (specifically bg's) died tbh
although i'd feel kinda bad fucking up on something like this twice tho- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
oh, i thought you were talking about me and i was confused since i didn't start a new party. what do you think about aronis then?In post 1192, the worst wrote:starts with an A and rhymes with "blaronis".
given how the districts are split up idk how much support he's getting realistically. like i'm not even sure he can win his own district (him/me/mylo/hebi)
p-edit: ok then that makes things easy- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
+1 if ausuka can do thisIn post 1207, 123456789 wrote:I think we should use the lie detector ability slightly differently. In particular, we shouldn't use it on posts with one person but rather two or three people.
For instance: "123456789 and Mutantdevle are aligned with the town." Then, when you get the lie detector result, if you get truth, you know both people are town. Otherwise, town is guaranteed at least one scum out of the two.
--
yes, i figured.In post 1209, Tazaro wrote:
Two things are--> I postal voted for Fighting Dreamers. Then I election day voted for Fighting Dreamers.In post 1173, Tazaro wrote:I hereby have two things to proceed to pucker up into a monumental megaphone and claim to the clammy, sweaty seated awaiting audience ...
Engage.
duckling, i'm kinda weirded out that the postal fraud votes were for you. could scum have wanted you to get the presidency yesterday?
--
yeah, the districts don't really seem to have been made with the intent of giving him the presidency; i'm not even sure he can win his own (me/aronis/hebi/mylo)In post 1211, mutantdevle wrote:Are you saying Aronis is mafia and planned to kill you off so he could form his own party in the ashes?
Because if you are, I'm going to have to strongly disagree.
--
i mean this opinion regarding double-voting would have been met with much less suspicion if you had shared it when double-voting was pronounced to be a scumclaim way back whenIn post 1217, Tazaro wrote:pre-ninja: I did not agree with the logic of double voting equals a problem and therefore Edosurist equals a convenient person who gets to be dumped into a lynch pool and then gets lynched because the mob (who I wasn't a part of) said to lynch him and kill scum, at best, or at the least find the dratted double voter. What a crummy plan. Someone in this thread said about double voting that "it's a scum claim." Who was it that dared write that, again?
why'd you fraud? like you're going on about why having done so should be taken as a proof of guilt, but i still don't get why you did it in the first place
this feels kinda survivalistic to meIn post 1215, Tazaro wrote:Oh, and don't even talk about "policy lynches" in the same breath of saying that an innocent townie was lynched. The policy lynch of me would kill an innocent townie.
eh this feels kinda townie tho.In post 1228, Tazaro wrote:His lynch was a left turn. The great reason that I voted for Fighting Dreamers was that I somehow thought they would ultimately make their own independent call on who was scum.Bending to the popular voice was a betrayal to what I expected.
--
not sure if the bolded is true; if one or the other had claimed the double vote, we would have had five claimed votes for six votes cast (one each by mylo/ruby/taz/hebi + the frauded vote) so we'd still be missing a vote so that doesn't entirely clear edo. but i agree that if one or the other had owned up to the double vote they would have likely been yesterday's lynch.In post 1245, mutantdevle wrote:Either you or Hebichan claiming your double vote would certainly have been Edosurist's salvation. Your claims back up Edosurist's own that they didn't vote. It's just a shame they weren't around to reinforce the idea that they didn't vote when suspicion first arose. By claiming a double vote, we likely would have killed you instead of him. What's the difference between lynching a town!Edosurist and a town!either of you? Answer: Both of you deserved to be lynched for your actions whereas Edosurist was innocent of everything we were holding against him.
--
this basically. i'm tending towards town because he just feels too clueless/out there/out of it to be scum (honestly if he was scum the double-vote + outing of the double vote woudl probably have not been handled so ... clumsily given daytalk) but like i don't want him anywhere near lyloIn post 1249, mutantdevle wrote:I agree. He's a scummy town but town nonetheless. That said, I'm still more okay with a vig on him than anyone else. His reaction to all this strikes me as town since, although he is making excuses, he is not trying to present his excuses as pro town like Hebichan did. I just wish he was saying all this stuff yesterday when it mattered more.
--
atm i think you have more support than her tbh; most of her support seems to be residual from yesterday.In post 1252, mutantdevle wrote:
I'd much rather you use it on Ruby if I'm honest. They're more popular president wise than I am so I think that's a much better use of your ability.In post 1246, Ausuka wrote:Uhhh. So can we like do the lie detector thing. It doesn't count as a lie if the person doesn't know it's a lie so we're gonna have to stick with clearing people running for president/not in a party.
I also want Ruby to check into the thread as well. They've kinda disappeared.
ruby has had sitewide inactivity recently so i don't think it's ai but like it would be useful to hear her thoughts on like everything- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
these are better posts too i thinkIn post 1271, ofrhz wrote:
Does this mean you still support ruby for presidentIn post 1244, Blind Bandits wrote:this would not have happened if we elected supreme leader ruby red
I’m not sure what ruby would have done differently as president considering she was also in support of an edos lynch.
--
hmm, ok, that at least explains the double-voting. like i get what you did given your wincon but after this like i don't really think you can be trusted to vote reliably given all of this stuff even remotely.In post 1272, hebichan wrote:im just gonna full claim my fucking dumb role here.
Im a third party anarchist.
My goal is to be in two tied districts over the course of the game.
I get Joat powers unlocked after certain things.
1. if im caught for electoral fruading, I get a one shot protest, which means I can stop the lynch after its been chosen but before it resolves to stop the lynch and make the president resolve a new one.
2. I can choose to arrange the members of a single district one night. This is after I am in a single tied district. My choices supercede the mafia's and if it causes two or less people to be in another district, the mafia can reshuffle any other district to fit the constraints.
3. After there is a colotion lynch, I can choose to lock a single district for a night, mafia can not touch it.
that's why I wanted to find the other double voter so badly yesterday, if I can't trust town to vote normally, my role is nearly impossible.
it's almost like you were trying to get caught given the first ability tbh.
we can't get rid of you completely today but i think you ought to be lynched to a) check the veracity of the claim and b) negate the first ability if it is in fact a real thing
i guess scum were probably the ones to shame you then
--
can you explain this again? i don't understand the connection between being in a tied district today and lynching her; her district wasn't tied yesterday, it was 3-2-1In post 1278, ofrhz wrote:That role is so out there, I actually believe it
So if hebi is in a tied district today, we have to lynch her, if I’m understanding correctly
--
the district is me/aronis/hebi/myloIn post 1281, ofrhz wrote:Okay new plan
We plan to lynch hebi anyway to neutralize her one shot protest ability and then kill someone else
The people in her district need to just vote for the same person today. Then we can kill her tomorrow
*looks at district composition*
Shit
aronis prob votes for himself
hebi prob votes for whatever she thinks will make the district tied
i'm tending towards mutant
i have no idea what mylo is thinking
i don't really want to vote for aronis tbh; i guess i can if it would really be better wrt hebi but maybe i misread/misunderstand something like i still don't understand why you think we all need to vote the same way today? and like i really don't think he's the optimal president.
--
i'd like to add taz to that pool; he never gets nk'd and idk if he gets lynched anytime soon and he absolutely must be resolved somehow before endagameIn post 1282, the worst wrote:
{Blind Bandits, ofrhz} is a great cop pool ftrIn post 1246, Ausuka wrote:Uhhh. So can we like do the lie detector thing. It doesn't count as a lie if the person doesn't know it's a lie so we're gonna have to stick with clearing people running for president/not in a party.
--
was starting to doubt my townread because of your lack of existence tbh. still think this feels much more *carefree* in comparison to splatoonIn post 1288, Myloninja13 wrote:Hi I'm back!
From the district placements, I kinda have to believe that the Poop Posting Party are likely all town, or at least Whemestar is very likely town. I don't know why they'd split us up like that otherwise.
And Taz and Hebi were the double votes then, and Hebi claimed third party. Not sure what to think of Taz though lol.
By the way, I'm open for requests on a district name change today! If you want a district name changed, I can help out!
can you change ours to 'the greatest city in the world'?
--
feel better soon :) :) :)In post 1297, Ruby Red wrote:
im still sick as a dogIn post 1283, the worst wrote:
she's a bit busy irlIn post 1252, mutantdevle wrote:I also want Ruby to check into the thread as well. They've kinda disappeared.
which sucks harder than normal because i really just want to be president and lynch scum and just have fun and everything in this game and with this playerlist
i promise myself and everyone else that i'll be here tomorrow
--
i agree and think we should def test it today; at best she's lying and we lynch her, and at worst we negated it and can lynch her tomorrowIn post 1302, Ausuka wrote:Like her whole protest claim really seems like a way to try and scare us out of lynching her.
--
if she were like actively helping town i'd prob be ok letting her live for a bit so we can utilize her abilities (although she'd def have to be deaded well before endgame), but like, she hasn't, and she was an active participant in the edo fiasco yesterdayIn post 1315, mutantdevle wrote:
What do you think we gain from lynching third party?In post 1313, Not Known 15 wrote:Well, I am not strictly against keeping claimed third parties alive if they have been protown, their claim passes scrunity and are not antitown...
something that does not fit to hebichan.
hebichan acted antitown.
Had they claimed yesterday and prevented the lynch to gain trust I maybe had said ok...
here? Lynch.
Our job is to lynch mafia.
--
i mean, you also lolclaimed mason soooooooooooooIn post 1319, WhemeStar wrote:Hey guys im third party sooooooooooo
--
i don't really understand the suspicion for nk15 from the last pageIn post 1329, Wraith wrote:Disagree on Not Known 15- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
i'm on a hamilton kick and it references the original name of the district lol
--
what do you mean?In post 1347, the worst wrote:hey given the nature of roles should we like try and get a different president each day?
--
got it; i was thinking yesterday + today, not today + tomorrow.In post 1352, ofrhz wrote:The sequence of events would be like:
- election phase —> tied district d2 (hebi’s first tied district)
- lynch phase (tries and fails to lynch hebi)
- election phase —> tied district d3 —-> hebi automatically achieves her wincon
if mylo is voting for wheme and aronis is voting for himself, i guess it's up to me? I think i probably don't say where i'm voting then because if i say i'm voting:
-> arnois she votes wheme
-> wheme she votes arnonis
-> anyone else she votes some fourth party
@aronis/mylo are you guys open to switching your votes? if we all vote the same way i don't think she can do anything about it.
or i just don't say where i'm voting and leave it very open in {wheme/aronis/mutant; with all three being a viable option for this purpose} because to get it tied she'd have to guess where i'm voting and then vote accordingly
if there's a coordinated thing from elsewhere to let mutant win i think i'm ok with thisIn post 1357, Ausuka wrote:That could just involve having Aronis win that district while the rest of us elect mutant.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
yep, if i'm allowed to do that, prob the best idea. i don't think that even if my vote gives the district to {wheme/aronis} that they'll get the whole presidencyIn post 1360, mutantdevle wrote:
You should randomly generate a number for it so that they won't know entirely.In post 1359, skitter30 wrote:or i just don't say where i'm voting and leave it very open in {wheme/aronis/mutant; with all three being a viable option for this purpose} because to get it tied she'd have to guess where i'm voting and then vote accordingly
--
1. i'm a bit of theater nerd and super love musicals and see them whenever they come to my city; i occasionally go to NY and whenever i'm there i try to see at least oneIn post 1361, the worst wrote:1. great call and Hamilton is amazing.
2. well like the presidential bodyguard for example. I wonder if there's more roles which can only target current and ex presidents?
ヽ(`⌒´)ノ Just thinkin aloud
2. ah so you'd want more potential candidates for such roles to target. eh, it's worth a shot. but i don't want random people that i don't think will make reasonable, rational decisions to get it. like i don't think it's worth it to expand the presidential pool by giving the presidency to people who'll like lol-lynch
i have a few ideas as to what some other such roles might be but i feel like i prob shouldn't speculate yet?- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
that's awesome, i hope you got/get to see some nice showsIn post 1364, the worst wrote:agreed i definitely wouldn't speculate yet but have some ideas myself :3
I'm kinda the same wrt theatre. there is a lot of quality amateur stuff where I live but the bigger shows rarely come to my city. when I go to Melbourne I try and sneak one in if I can. ^^ musicals are my jam.
--
wheme, you've already pressured mylo into backing a fake-mason claim so it's really hard for me to believe that this is a real thing and not something you're just saying for the lolsIn post 1373, WhemeStar wrote:How many times do I gotta say that
--
ok, why is ofrhz scum?In post 1375, WhemeStar wrote:Oh cool VOTE: ofrhz
I isod a random person and that random person turned out to be scum you got bad luck friend
--
eh, this is kinda premature imoIn post 1380, 123456789 wrote:
Fullclaim please.In post 1372, WhemeStar wrote:
I’m third partyIn post 1371, the worst wrote:
dw you're just scum flailing, this feeling will pass.In post 1370, WhemeStar wrote:Why am I so lost this game
i don't really have anything new to say since the last time i was here- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
i'm pretty sure this isn't a thing?In post 376, jjh927 wrote:- Game name- Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia
- Flavor- The democratic process
- Number of players- 19
- Are hydras allowed (Yes/No)- Yes
- Your modding experience- Bread upick, Iambic Tetramafia
- Current modding commitments- None
- Reviewers- GuyInFreezer, Beeboy and unofficially (and most prominently) Mathdino
- Reviewers agreed to FINAL version? (Yes/No)- Yes
- Backup mod- Mathdino
- Backup mod's experience- More than enough; I'll search games if you make me
- Backup mod's commitments- Open 720 and Micro 800
- Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults,-mid-game alignment changes,moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No)No.
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
tending town tbhIn post 1402, WhemeStar wrote:Reads on ofrhz please
--
i doubt he's scum but he might actually be third party? like the role he claimed yesterday isn't a thing i'm pretty sure but i feel like he doesn't make up something like this completely from nothing?In post 1407, mutantdevle wrote:Also, I don't know why people are taking Wheme's claims seriously. He is literally the leader of the shit posting party. He clearly isn't third party and he isn't scum for it either.
he kinda like lost all credibility tho by claiming masons and claiming third party and claiming a role that isn't a thing. i kinda want him to just claim his role so that we know what we're dealing with and how best to handle it, but idk if i'd trust what he says either way tbh. i don't really want him anywhere near endgame after claiming that
i want to test hebi's thing today and if the protest thing is real i'd be ok with lynching wheme i think. or at least pressuring him to get a real fullclaim out of him so that we can figure out what to do with him
--
i don't really think someone claims third-party like that as skIn post 1413, the worst wrote:lol wheme are you sk?
but then i don't really know what third-party role claims like that in the first place so- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
Yaunauiabakauw
Really dont know what's the optimal thing for me to do here. I dont know if I should vote to try to ensure hebi doesnt get a tied district, or if I should vote who I want to be president.
Short of me/aronis/mylo all voting the same way I think if I say where ill vote hebi can tie the district.
I think Aronis votes for himself so idk if I should:
1. Try to get mylo to vote Aronis with me, giving Aronis the district
2. Vote basically at random someone I dont mind being president but giving hebi an opportunity to tie it depending on what she thinks I'll do
I'm kinda wondering if scum were trying to like neutralize the votes of some people- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
i ended up voting mutant because i gave up trying to outguess/outpredict mylo, so it could well have been that districtIn post 1482, 123456789 wrote:A tie????!!!
People should've just double-voted in Hebi's district....
i don't think that double-voting was the solution to that district tbh- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
I mean, from the flavor text it seems like she can indeed get lynched after the 24 hours are up, which she kinda failed to mention.In post 1536, mutantdevle wrote:don't consider Hebichan to be a threat. More than anything, this was a claim test.
Why aren't you concerned about her?
I kinda want to get wheme to claim.
If we dont lynch her today we need to talk about the distrct-locking ability thing she claimed, which iirc she can use after being in one tied district.
HURT: hebi
HURT: wheme- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
you have two pseudo-votes on you; it's not like you're imminently getting lynched
like this feels very survivalistic in a situation that doesn't exactly warrant it; it's a bit of an overreaction to what's actually happening
fair enoughIn post 1541, mutantdevle wrote:Because if Hebichan's win condition ends the game then jjh needs to rethink how they balance games.
ok how do we use this then?In post 1272, hebichan wrote:2. I can choose to arrange the members of a single district one night. This is after I am in a single tied district. My choices supercede the mafia's and if it causes two or less people to be in another district, the mafia can reshuffle any other district to fit the constraints.
these seem to be the constraints. given that hebi can only assign the one district i feel like it might be a good idea to put a lot of the lolvoters in the same district so that we don't have to worry about them as much?
alternatively we can try to create a district that we know will vote a certain way to give a guaranteed district to someone. idk if that would work because to circumvent this maf can prob just kill that person, so this might not be the best idea actually
idk, these are the two ideas i have right off the bat; if anyone else has better ideas now's a good time to share them- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
^^^^^^^
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
hi oath
--
so, to translate this, you're claiming a (gated?) vig who tried to kill tw but failed since zmuffinman died in his stead.In post 1617, Tazaro wrote:My count of wheme hurts was five.
But anyway, if this is what needs to be done then O.K, look; I received an ability to murder someone in this game of my choosing. On Night 1, I chose the worst as the person to kill because things all went very wrong and he in the end even excused himself for doing the Edosurist lynch, but the bodyguard that targeted him died instead. This meant that the worst survived because I killed his bodyguard instead. BUT i KNOW (from my role info) that he still could have died if he was also targetted by mafia.
So now what becomes of things?
and if maf had also tried to kill tw he would have died despite the bg. and since that didn't happen we're missing the maf kill unless they loldecided to target zmuffinman?
also you do realize that you have much of the culpubility for the edos thing given that your double vote is what made him look suspicious in the first place, right?
so you frauded for someone you thought was scum because you hoped they would bus and when their lynch target (who incidentally was under suspicion because you double voted) flipped town you decided to lolvig them.In post 1627, Tazaro wrote:Here is another thing that I didn't admit at first: I voted for Fighting Dreamers/the worst because I somehow had a fantasy about their being scum that would bus.
HURT: taz
--
duckling's cleared because of ausuka, not exclusively because of last night's deathIn post 1631, Not Known 15 wrote:
More importantly, we can only falsify or verify this very interesting piece of information if we lynch them. And because this could also easily be an attempt to throw shade on TW(who would now be not an universal town read anymore, and will not if this is correct) and I do not really believe this, and because of the doublevote...In post 1630, mutantdevle wrote:So you are now effectively a vanilla townie? Hence not much of a loss even if town.
No objection to a lynch of tazaro.
--
there's really no way to check this claim given that you didn't try to become a candidate today or yesterday; if you are in fact a candidate tomorrow that doesn't really demonstrate that you couldn't have been one before you used your ability.In post 1633, Tazaro wrote:But, wait, because of my power ('s potential benefit), I was (perhaps for balance) stripped of the power to put my hat in the ring as a presidential candidate. If i live this day, and I announce candidacy we can easily see if the mod record my party as a part of the list of parties on the next day.
actually if i'm reading this right you're basically saying that you gained the ability to become a candidate because you used your ability already so why couldn't you prove this today exactly?
like even if you demonstrate you can be a candidate tomorrow this doesn't actually prove anything to us. also this kinda reads like you're just trying to survive till tomorrow.In post 1637, Tazaro wrote:So try seeing that simple thing^ and if it doesn't satisfy, there is an option of lynching me tomorrow with the same president as today and I will vote for him even,
you do know that if you're trying to prove that you have in fact claimed this earlier, telling us you did so on 'either June 28 or June 29' doesn't really prove anything? like all you have to do is like look at the timestamps of your posts.In post 1645, Tazaro wrote:... ^and if you want a date of the time I posted revelations to Aronis in the P.T., wellJune 28th or 29seems to be when I did so.
Think about it, he can agree with me, and if I flip that would vindicate me, but you would have lynched another townie by that point
--
what do you mean by neutralized? Because you used it or someone else neutralized it for you?In post 1652, Tazaro wrote:This is what I stand by as my truth^ and also the fact that I had the power to use my ability but it got neutralized. Who would have thought
i wish you would just claim in one piece, not with all these dribs and drabs that are hard to put together into a coherent picture (that don't even make sense together?). this way i just feel like you're making it all up as you go along
--
In post 1660, Aronis wrote:wait, I thought you said you were essentially an odd night vigilante, Tazaro? Did that change or did you forget to mention that?- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
why on 123, blind bandits, invis, mutant, and mylo?In post 1666, Oath wrote:Life got stupid, but I'm here.
--
since nobody has any major objections i think we ought to just lynch him and be done with it; the more the day drags on with no new discussion or no new developments, the more lethargic teh day getsIn post 1668, the worst wrote:it's also kingmaker
starting to wonder if we should unironically meme thru this game (and whether jjh would be offended since the setup is actually crazy awesome)- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
i think i'm probably going to support mutant again today
also the current districts are kinda icky, especially like theme park and central park
--
my best guess is that scum were worried about ausuka's role and they didn't want her to confirm and/or guilty anyone?In post 1711, the worst wrote:why didn't I die
--
let's notIn post 1713, the worst wrote:if I die I hope I can vengekill your shitty attitude- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
i think cuz his claim was sketchy afIn post 1719, the worst wrote:I'd only kill his attitude dw he's townishish just mean
can anyone explain why we killed Taz rather than two hardclaimed antitown and one obvscum Blind Bandits?
i still want to lynch hebi today
i'm fairly confident that mutant is town tbh- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
yeah fire's slot is good too
presumably they'd double vote to try to get a prez they want. idk if they'd risk that early game tho and like taz was town and hebi is ... hebi. and now double-voting is stigmatized so i feel like it prob won't happen too much in the future and we won't have to worry about it too much
i kinda liked nk15's very very early game - like i liked the party proposal because it felt too out there almost to come from scum; it was never going to get accepted by the playerlist and i feel like scum would have tried to talk something like over with their partners before pushing that and their partners would have either told them to drop it or make it more palatable. like i didn't get like a *polished* vibe from him, if that makes sense.
i dislike that he's like dropped off the face of the planet and that i really have like no idea what he's thinking at this point besides shading people who support and/or form parties that don't share his ideals
i want you or mutant to be president- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
lol ten pages in twelve hours, ok
--
i think that was ofrhz. his posting here has been kinda meh but he's been pretty town in the party pt tbh. i was an se in his first newbie and he kinda bled town there with his like every post and his posting in the party pt has been kinda like thatIn post 1737, WhemeStar wrote:I’d much rather lynch the person ausuka was going to check
i don't really want to lynch him today
also it's possible they just killed ausuka in order to not conf-town town!ofrhz
--
honestly i remember like nothing that fire's posted and you yourself have like two posts - i really wouldn't call your slot obviously town. like making a readlist upon catching up doesn't really obvtown you tbh. idk what the stats you're referencing here have to do with anything; i don't really understand the boldedIn post 1738, Oath wrote:
ProbablyIn post 1735, WhemeStar wrote:Orfhz is scum
I'm leaning scum on both of you actually
And oh sure lynch my slot after I caught up and am obviously town. Fire(who I replaced) didn't even vote day 2 it looks like their last post - check the stats:75% turnout, only 3 votes and they all went to Ruby, which I never would have done. vPFft ungrateful dudes.
and from later this was apparently saracasm - i don't know if i explicitly scumread fire from his posting; i don't remember like any of it.
that in of itself is sketchy to me though because the game has been going on for a month and his slot his just been like ... around without really doing anything. same with bandits. some of this group might just be disengaged town, but i townread enough of the active posters that it's indicative that there's scum in the lurkers
--
yay you're backIn post 1745, Ruby Red wrote:apart from that i think theres like a decent enough townblock that enough lynches + any pr actions means poe solves this game?
stop me if im wrong here seriously, no secret ive been kind of out of it
i'm kinda feeling this way too tbh; between the townbloc and pr's we're getting pretty close to the point where we can just lynch through everyone else
--
duckling i don't know why you dislike aronis that much tbh
--
lolIn post 1784, the worst wrote:
I am treating the fact you felt the need to respond to my @scum as a scumslip, thx whemeIn post 1782, WhemeStar wrote:
If I’m president I’m PROBABLY lynching orfhzIn post 1780, the worst wrote:@scum please also don't enter my party for I will lynch u
--
meh, fine.In post 1801, mutantdevle wrote:
Can we not?In post 1723, skitter30 wrote:i still want to lynch hebi today
Hebichan is not a threat.
It annoys me how many times I have to say this. We know Hebi is third party. We checked their claim with an attempted lynch yesterday. Third party is not mafia. Our goal is to lynch mafia.
between ofrhz, fire, bb, and vizzy, i think i want fire >> bb = vizzy >>>> ofrhz in that order
--
pretty sure ofrhz is townIn post 1812, the worst wrote:if anyone very very strongly disagrees with anyone in either bracket speak up
--
honestly most of what wheme's posting on this page is townpinging me; he has more .... *convinction* then i'd expect from scum!him here; he feels kinda genuine actuallyIn post 1848, WhemeStar wrote:
YEA YOU GOT A GREAT TRACK RECORD OF LYNCHIN SCUM AS PRESIDENTIn post 1846, the worst wrote:
no.In post 1843, Myloninja13 wrote:So... if I voted Wheme for president and he lynched ofrhz, would you be okay with that?
I am president today.
--
this is also @tw:In post 1929, Aronis wrote:Okay, I'm getting ready to take the worst out of my town pile for antitown behavior.
you're both town and this fight is silly; it's basically a personality clash more than anything else
i read like i don't know how many pages of the two of you quibbling with and sniping at each other. all it did was bloat the game without accomplishing anything useful.
the two of you ought to try to work together, and if you can't, just stop talking to each other and stop taking potshots at each other.
aronis, wheme is not becoming president today. tw, i get that you're conftown but i think you can tone it down a little- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
nah, nico's role PM said you would have died if you got targeted twice, although that would have been hilarious tbh lolIn post 1964, the worst wrote:hold on
this is the second time in my 9 month mafia career when I was targeted by the vig, scum factional kill and bodyguard on the same night.
?!?!????
unless they targeted nico-slot it seems we're missing the maf kill n1 - either from a rb, jk, doc, etc etc etc
--
@123 i think i'm voting duckling today
--
i don't really have much else to say since i was here last tbh- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
i want oath >> vizzy = bb >> hebi >>> wheme >ofrhzIn post 1987, mutantdevle wrote:It worries me that support for the worst is growing because I'm scared he's going to lynch either Wheme or Hebichan. Both of which arelynches at this stage in the game. If he can promise that he's going to stay away from these 2 then I'd be much happier about him being president again.TERRIBLE
based on the lycnh options that have been discussed today
--
wait you know that he wants to lynch you and you're going to vote him anyways?In post 1993, Blind Bandits wrote:well i know that i was gonna vote him anyway
voting for wheme is just
why
and mutant lynched town last i checked
i mean tw is conftown and lynched town and wants to lynch you today so this is like a weird reaction to have if you're townIn post 1996, Blind Bandits wrote:that was toxic im sorry uh
lynching town is a bit of a stain on his track record that makes me think twice before voting and trusting his judgement
--
mylo's still townIn post 2014, Myloninja13 wrote:Ay, the poop posting party has become the biggest!
--
bleh, why'd you announce this?In post 2022, Not Known 15 wrote:
I have info that makes Oath the lynch and everyone in my party PT knows... that message came from Mutant.In post 2021, WhemeStar wrote:Cause it’s Anonymous
Might as well reveal this...
--
In post 2031, Oath wrote:But fr... I gave reads when I got here and it seemed like no one cared. Then I was kinda put in a scum category and my experience with mafia comes with the understanding that once I'm scum read I can't do much about it, people don't listen to me which causes me to get frustrated and I don't wanna be upset arguing and pleading so I'll pretty much only remark on things that are substantial. Nothing substantial is actually happening. I don't wanna be President. So this is all just the seeing who I think I should vote for phase for me since my voice doesn't mean much here.
i mean, i did ask you about a bunch of your reads and you never really respondedIn post 2062, Oath wrote:Cool. Everybody set?
like there's an announced guilty on you and i feel like if you're town and know it's wrong you'd be trying to fight it more or something. i feel like you're just like laying back and letting it happen to you.
--
role != alignment even if that role was provenIn post 2055, mutantdevle wrote:5. The unfortunate thing about your claim is that it is very uncreative. Easily faked. Hard to prove. For all we know, only scum can out frauders. For us to confirm your role we'd both need to have a town PR that can out fraud votes AND then have them claim.
--
i don't know if this is possible but maybe we can ask jjh if all players send him a PM saying we want to accelrate tothe voting stage we can just jump to that instead of waiting around?In post 2068, Not Known 15 wrote:So we...
wait for the voting stage
vote the worst
the worst lynches oath
Day ends.
This is the plan.
Right?
i feel like the long campaigning phases whose length is dictated by the arbitrary '6 day's or whatever it is, instead of by when we decide we're ready to move on, kinda promote lethargy which makes it hard for people to stay motivated.- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
- skitter30
-
skitter30 she/herLast Laugh
- skitter30
she/her- Last Laugh
- Last Laugh
- Posts: 36614
- Joined: March 26, 2017
- Pronoun: she/her
- Location: Est
you said you thought mutant would be a bad president because he's already lynched townIn post 2084, Blind Bandits wrote:
im geniunely interested in your thought process here assuming that you continued to readIn post 2076, skitter30 wrote:i mean tw is conftown and lynched town and wants to lynch you today so this is like a weird reaction to have if you're town
tw wants to lynch you so if you're town idk why you think that's a better option
--
town: tw, mutant, aronis, mylo, ofrhz, you probablyIn post 2100, 123456789 wrote:
Reads please and thank you.In post 2098, Blind Bandits wrote:PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR OWN NAME IN READLISTS SHOULD BE PURGED BTW
Actually....@Everyone: Reads list please and thank you.
(benevelent?) third party: wheme, hebi
everyone else: ruby, vizzy, oath, bb, wraith, nk15
--
no, i did not
i'm a she btw
why do i look scum to you?
--
i prefer oath today tbhIn post 2130, 123456789 wrote:The Worst, if you lynch Blind Bandits today, you will never receive my vote for president again.
--
i don't think there was a legit guilty on hebi; she got publicly shamed for voter fraudIn post 2158, WhemeStar wrote:
lolIn post 2154, 123456789 wrote:You claimed third party. If you fullclaim, our party will consider saying more about the guilty.
Your party was also the one who had a guilty on hebi
Please - skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30
- skitter30