Not voting: GameNBurger, Kop, northsidegal, Poseidon 110, Sesq 135
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what does this mean? sorry if it's like obvious and i'm missing something but I honestly have no idea.In post 144, Sesq wrote:reundo's probably just Out To Lunch
can you elaborate on why 2.718's posts look like they're grabbing for towncred if you can? also why did you vote Reundo?In post 147, Irrelephant11 wrote:@Ausuka he just feels overeager to provide reasoning for his votes. At this early stage, as NSG pointed out, there’s a lot more for town to gain by keeping things close to the chest at times. 2718 seems like he’s the one that wants towncred (as opposed to the townsite reason for oversharing - to actually help others sort)
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel for reads here, though, I admit
VOTE: reundo
I dig it
detached from the state of the game seems like a made up read and the rest of it made 0 senseIn post 80, Sesq wrote:you're right. if you were scum you would have at least tried to phrase it differently. and you're not new. also; town tries hard to look like town too. so theres thatIn post 25, Keyser Söze wrote:This was a page one question intended to be answered before we enter serious/non-RVS gameplay.In post 16, Sesq wrote:please Please townread meIn post 13, Keyser Söze wrote:Anyone played this setup before?
I.e what’s the best way to play it... does hypoclaiming help town or scum?
And while we’re all saying hello, what are your opinions on how to deal with lurkers.
You shouldn’t see it as an attempt to look ‘townie’: it’s as non-alignment indicative as say a player asking if there is scum day chat - why are you being lazy/shortsighted?
after reading further its clear (i hope i dont come off as too rude) that keyser is entirely detached from the state of the game ... but not in a scum way. nothing you have said has really made any sense and ive changed my mind. vote stays
pretty bad post and especially bad take on reundoIn post 91, 2 718281828459 wrote:Hmmm.
Keyser is interesting. Although he seems scum, I am unable to support that logically. Why is Keyser wanting to limitthe forbidden topicto page 1? (And why not wait until day 2, whenthe forbidden topicactually becomes a thing that can be done?)
Reundo's 46 is a little annoying but I like how he looked at everyone.
I kind of am concerned about Keyser, so VOTE: Keyser.
I am not in that good of a mood, so do not expect any more reads from me at this time.
ok, and so what? do you townread it, scumread it, null read it? who cares if it's unnecessary? is it scummy?In post 104, volxen wrote:Why did you feel the need to "remind" us not to townread you for posting a mathematical proof? I find it a bit odd to automatically assume that people would give you free towncred just for that one early game contribution. I get your point about people making the mistake of townreading based on effort alone, but I really don't think it was necessary to explicitly say that you don't deserve towncred for sharing a mathematical proof.In post 22, GameNBurger wrote:Also nobody dare TR me for that I did a bunch of shitty math only to come to the conclusion that its business as usual as far as claiming goes
in my last game a bunch of people town read me simply for effort and It blew my fucking minds as to why
I put up with it because I was town and people were having a hard time reading me but I'd like to get it out there that effort is not a one to one correlation with scuminess
a lack of effort is a good indicator of scum but a presence of effort does not indicate town
Anyways let that be a lesson to never do gametheory math late at night because youre bound to make idioitic mistakes, theres still a not great part of the stupidly simple model i used that doesn't account for the fact that T contains M in it, I should have broken it into P=t+M for more generalized use to make the death equation a bit easier to see the relationships
I already clarified that I am null-reading GameNBurger currently in 125:In post 165, Toranaga wrote:ok, and so what? do you townread it, scumread it, null read it? who cares if it's unnecessary? is it scummy?In post 104, volxen wrote:Why did you feel the need to "remind" us not to townread you for posting a mathematical proof? I find it a bit odd to automatically assume that people would give you free towncred just for that one early game contribution. I get your point about people making the mistake of townreading based on effort alone, but I really don't think it was necessary to explicitly say that you don't deserve towncred for sharing a mathematical proof.In post 22, GameNBurger wrote:Also nobody dare TR me for that I did a bunch of shitty math only to come to the conclusion that its business as usual as far as claiming goes
in my last game a bunch of people town read me simply for effort and It blew my fucking minds as to why
I put up with it because I was town and people were having a hard time reading me but I'd like to get it out there that effort is not a one to one correlation with scuminess
a lack of effort is a good indicator of scum but a presence of effort does not indicate town
Anyways let that be a lesson to never do gametheory math late at night because youre bound to make idioitic mistakes, theres still a not great part of the stupidly simple model i used that doesn't account for the fact that T contains M in it, I should have broken it into P=t+M for more generalized use to make the death equation a bit easier to see the relationships
In post 125, volxen wrote:I didn’t miss the reference you made to your previous game, I just disagree that it was beneficial/necessary to bring it up in regard to how people may or may not be reading you inIn post 108, GameNBurger wrote:So I'm back for a while
Let me weigh on some shit
@NORTH:
Short summary of my last game, i'd do some game theory stuff or long pairing posts that were like open notes, which is just my style of play for the most part but people kept saying "this is never town" which is just the dumbest assumption
I know lazy scum is a popular strat on this site but god damn somebody's gotta break the circlejerk rip tides because scum could just easily coast by putting in effort in note taking
Thats probably the largest reason why i felt the need to comment on it ahead of time since I really hated having to just not say anything in the interest of the town not flip flopping more than it already did that game, not only that but if scum tries to ride out a similar strat of just putting in over the top effort and taking town cred from people I want to be able to call it out with scum potentially being armed with ammo of me keeping quiet in the case that anyone gives me towncred
And I don't buy into that shit of "act bad then attract scum who try and attacks you or buys into it" because town has every right reason to call you out on that as scum does so its just a big showy waste of everyone's time that will cast doubt on ones self to the rest of the town
@Volxen
How have you missed my references to my previous game being the main hitch that motivates my action its in the quote you quoted
thisgame. To me at least, going out of your way to say “don’t townread me for this” comes across as odd and forced. Why not just let everyone come to their own conclusion? That’s all I’m saying.
In any case, you did elaborate more on your reasoning in this post in your response to NSG, so perhaps we will just have to agree to disagree on this point.
As I see it there are really only two reasons why he would go out of his way to tell people not to townread him:In post 111, Ausuka wrote:
@volxen: why do you think scum!GNB argues that people will tr him for mechanics when he doesn't actually believe that?
1) If he is town, perhaps he really just did have a bad experience in previous game(s) where people incorrectly equated effort with towniness, and he’s worried it might happen in this game based on that.
2) If he is scum, he may just be using basic reverse psychology to plant the idea that he is acting like town by essentially saying “don’t give me easy town points, make me earn them”.
At the moment though, he’s a null-read for me, as most of his content has been the mathematical proof, talking about hypoclaiming and lurking, and the whole bit about him not wanting people to townread him solely based on providing the mathematical proof.
how accurate would you say you are when it comes to reading keyser? i just want to know your degree of confidence here.In post 155, Kop wrote:I think Keyser is town from the quick glancing I made. I have played with Keyser quite a bit under a different alias on another website, and kinda know what his town game is, and what his scum game is. Unless his game play is different over here compared to over on the other website I play with him, but at the moment, I am getting his town game play from what I've seen so far.
saying that my opinion is "commas are scummy" is an utter misrepresentation of what i'm trying to sayIn post 173, Dunnstral wrote:For real though I've got no clue what Kop's normal posting style is like - why do you think the commas are AI?