Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[HeWhoSwims]

Hi I'm here to ensure scum ain't got nothing on town

VOTE: Vex Vience nothing says hi like a vote. I'm HeWhoSwims, good to meet you!

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Early *serious* read alert: Vex is likely town. I did the exact same thing (speculating about what scum might have picked) when I played this setup for the first time. It's not a *strong* TR bc there is a scum motive to do it (and I'd really rather not speaking of that right now) but I'd like to think of him as a townie for a starting point.

Agree with this. But I do think setup spec isn't too relevant at this point, it's wildly guessing and even if we were to agree on the number of PRs we wouldn't do anything with it for a while.


@Vex Because if you would be a new player we could read bad reasoning as newbie reasoning

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= I'd feel like I'd be more forgiving to newbies who don't really put forward reads or play unconventionally, while I'd expect less so from experienced players, but that's me

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It takes us away from RVS and generates pressure!

Vex feels townish so far even though it looks like some sort of newbtown enthusiasm. Eh. He's contributing much which is enough for the day.

And with that... I should probably go to sleep before trying to judge all the other posts. Tired af.

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= I'd feel like I'd be more forgiving to newbies who don't really put forward reads or play unconventionally, while I'd expect less so from experienced players, but that's me

...we're gonna fight...

Let's not

Sky's entrance to the game is alarming. Everything she said so far "could" be interpreted as a mere joke. However -in my experience- joking about lynching the IC always comes from scum. And her last post/joke is even more alarming. I feel like it's been made for the sole purpose of declaring herself as the true traitor. It's as if she took ruru's earlier post about the traitor as an inquiry and is responding to it in fashion.

So,

my case on Sky is she is the Traitor

Well, thanks for getting us out of RVS I guess? I don't really think her joking should be AI because I've seen her do it before. I'll only be scumreading her when she's hindering the gamestate or not tagging along or not committing to reads and all that...

Good try, though, I can see it make sense but I think this might just be sky being sky lol

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I don't townread her. I was meaning to say that the reasoning was sound

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Uuuuuuuugh some of the stuff in here makes my head hurt already.

I don't townread her. I was meaning to say that the reasoning was sound

At the moment, null.

whats ur stance on sky then?

VOTE: FrankJaeger

Good vote, but don't naked vote

Regarding ruru and skitter - I personally don't think it's that good a plan to PL skitter if she happens to be on a ruru mislynch (which mind you will have at least 4 townies on it). Granted, I have played one game with ruru and none with skitter but... I just wanted to get it out there. (however scum!ruru doesn't have any benefit making this plan so this isn't a scumread by any means)

Honestly it feels like all of the other stuff besides skitter/ruru is some talk about the setup and some continuing on the thing with sky being a traitor. I'll put A51 in my townpile for now for 1) a pretty okay thought process and 2) putting that wacky assumption/read out there.

I don't think Gemerald has contributed a lot or made a significant impact for someone with 16 posts. Kinda feel the same about Vex who has done a looooot of setupspec and asking questions which... doesn't quite put him in my townpile... (and using u and y over you and why is only strengthening that! )

Creature seems kinda town, idk why, call it a gut read.

I like Enigma, feel he was sort of townie being present and figuring out the ruru/skitter and traitor!sky things

I like ruru so far

No big fan of Frank either for the same reasons as Gemerald/Vex

VOTE: Gamma emerald let's do this for now I think!

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I'm reading him for the same reason as Gemerald, who has had a little more posts and some longer ones I felt. But honestly they're at the same level for me.

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Short phone post, I'm dead and need to chill before I hit a few days apathy streak

@Skitter my reasoning was that Vex was at least really engaged and Gemerald had made some posts more plus a bit of gut. (Also didn't read a lot of presidents mafia sadly! I wanted to but got busy. I mostly just checked if brass was holding up)

Ruru why would it be expected town behaviour to copy your vote which iirc was the only one on the wagon

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And Vex I'm joking about the y and u of course

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also thinking about it some more, @hws why is asking a lot of questions not townie to u?
the entire point is to get someone to clarify their stance no?
if ur forced to clarify what u mean itd help everyone no?

Not sure if I said this? At least wasn't trying to. Asking questions isn't bad but it can very well get you a scumread from me if it's the vast majority of your iso... I want people's own reads as well!

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You said that after my post though.

And you can base reads on what people say apart from your questions, too. If you're only/mostly asking questions and or discussing the setup it looks like empty busywork to me. If it goes on too long

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Might just be a playstyle difference then but in general that pings my scumdar

Although skitter is saying that I might be making a mistake for thinking similarly of Gemerald

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Might just be a playstyle difference then but in general that pings my scumdar

Although skitter is saying that I might be making a mistake for thinking similarly of Gemerald

it is a playstyle difference
i find questioning (to an extend) townie before it becomes just pure "all i do is ask questions and nothing else"

That's what I was trying to say too.

You said that after my post though.

And you can base reads on what people say apart from your questions, too.

If you're only/mostly asking questions and or discussing the setup it looks like empty busywork to me. If it goes on too long

do you currently think that vex is doing the busy-work sort of questioning?

Currently, no, he's way better, I like the fact that the absence of reads is made up for by that pretty huge post. His questions earlier were what kinda pinged me + the setup discussion which was a dead horse or so I thought.

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I'm catching up in the middle of the vig talk and don't see why scum A51 would want to gambit bait the vig shot... As either alignment? I feel the only way to resolve this is shooting him and if he doesn't die he's the BP goon? Or is tired!hws being dumb here

[HeWhoSwims]

Hey I'm

V/LA from yesterday until friday

I have an introduction week at unicersity, posted about it elsewhere too.

the slots that I'm most interested in right now (hws/sky/cjv) are all afk

well I guess I'm interested in this: how are you reading frank/hws/sky/antihero/enigma?

What do you want to know exactly? Just general reads?

Actually how about this

VOTE: Skygazer
HURT: Frank

ellitell and frank needs to die but sky is more likely to be bp I think

How do you get to that conclusion?

[HeWhoSwims]

Ohmygod of course you're here

Ruru yes I thought a51 could be bp after the debacle

-town50 doesn't gain anything or am I wrong there? Only a vig bullet if present?
-scum50 would use it as wifom material.

Correct or nah
I'll try and read up

[HeWhoSwims]

I know a vig shot would be wasted.

Do you not understand the post or is it the reasoning that you need ELI5'd?

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Oh no ejji *twitches*

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Is it bad to mention that I think the Vex Frank argument was sorta stupid and that I think scum in general would be bad off arguing against it as hard as Frank did? Except if it's bussing?

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Just wanted to say sorry. School's been way more intense and more work than I thought, it's probably better if I replace out but that'd just extend day 1 more should I wait until after day 1?

@ofrhz