Forgotten Hourglass [Game Over]

[MathBlade]

Hello Math, we're mass flavor claiming, what's your flavor.

I don’t do mass claim shit without verifying authenticity first. Give me a minute to see if anyone else has first

[MathBlade]

Look at you Kokichi, Organizing things and giving people orders like an actual Ultimate Supreme Leader.

When I'm given a power role to lead, I become a leader. It's in my blood.

Power roles are MC and there are only three yeah?

[MathBlade]

Considering how Poisoner increases scum KPN, then poisoner should be the scum's main character, hence why the flavor claims.

Absolutely not.

This is really false.

Scum are likely Kokichi and Sakura

You’re welcome

[MathBlade]

Well that's as close to a scum claim as it gets, considering it wasnt even me who suggested some sort of flavor claiming, I just figured out the why due to how these games usually have 2 town MCs and 1 scum MC.

I am a main character and town.

Your theory is based on giving people what they want versus what they need.

My flavor is partially in the first post

[MathBlade]

I dunno math, for balance i dont see there being 3 town MCs.

I do. *grins* I am literally almost all claimed already.

Just gonna go make sure of a few things

#easiest solve ever

[MathBlade]

VOTE: math

Fucking run me up if you want

Give me 2 hours to make my case all I ask

[MathBlade]

There are gonna be some serious issues if pmatt ran away due to us flavor hunting the last MC since it had very high chance of being scum.
If he really didnt have time tho that's another story.

Agreed replacements are NAI and Matt flakes more than anything

[MathBlade]

There are three Main Characters in this game. At least one of them is aligned with Town.

Then what's the point of this if mafia have PRs who are non main characters

Probably will be like always, 2 town and 1 scum.
Balance wise that makes sense too.

This is your classic circle jerk power of suggestion combo. They are suggesting that mafia have no main characters and giving it weight to make you think that option. One of Katsuki or Sakura are scum because of this. The way Sakura continues to push this makes her scum.

My flavor is the Masked Lady aka Celia, I am the alternating poisoner. The role PM says Masked Lady but masked lady and Celia are really the same person.

#boom shakalaka

Now let me do my thing and get my last will out before scum run up my ass.

Matt didn't submit n1 btw.

[MathBlade]

http://deemo.wikia.com/wiki/Masked_lady

Nope sure didn't. I don't know who did that.

[MathBlade]

who did he poison then

Again alternating. He didn't submit N1. He can't have submitted N2.

[MathBlade]

Math u good lol? You seem a little tense

I'm tense, because I understand 100% the proper play is to lynch me because I am the last main character, but at the same time that's not what we should be doing.

So I have to argue against how a fucking impenetrable wall to be able to actually prove I am the poisoner and actually take out a scum.

But I know there's no way in hell scum will let that happen so I have to build an air tight impenetrable case before I flip.

[MathBlade]

Can someone please provide the list of checks for me and the checkers to help expedite things?

I'm pretty sure what happened here but I wanna make sure I don't miss a key step.

[MathBlade]

they will still die so doesnt matter @maria

Yeah scum will have to kill me.

So there is no way I make it to day four to make a post. So today is important that I give info dump to all my thoughts and build consensus and hit scum overnight.

Which I'm pretty damn sure is Sakura.

[MathBlade]

if math is really the last main and town, prof is almost certainly scum
I think thats who math should poison

Make your case while I find the checks. I only was half skimming this game because of the cool setup. I kinda was hoping to replace into a not MC and work on my town game more.

[MathBlade]

I'm a gunsmith. Kokichi Oma has a gun. I thought I'd try to catch him in a fake claim.

im also a gunsmith
Ill assume duplicate role since you dont look like youre lying

All results right now please @wisdom. Yes they are probably somewhere else.

@Moment you too.

[MathBlade]

i checked matt he doesn't have any guns

Hmmm. Purr outing now is suspect as hell.

boi if i was scum u know id use my cute cuddliness to win the game, even muffin would give me a pass
nah i also checked maria last nite and she has no guns

I'm a gunsmith. Wisdom has a gun. Which is why I tunneled him since yesterday. But I didn't outright claim cause I figured shenanigans like last game with vanilla cop. Spiffeh has no gun

hey guys
Guess who has a gun

VOTE: Nosferatu

oh and, sakura doesnt have a gun

Maria was my Night 1 check. She has no guns.

@Mod: Could you prod projectmatt and Prof Fridays?

I'm a gunsmith. Kokichi Oma has a gun. I thought I'd try to catch him in a fake claim.

Nos give your reports.

spiffeh and muffin

Awesome so if I'm right in my theory kokichi is scum Moment is town. That's a 1v1 right there.

[MathBlade]

hm. So kokichi and nos have guns, meaning the poisoner isnt in there

Oh wait...Gunsmiths have guns XD

#Derp not a 1v1 but still pretty sure on Kokichi.

[MathBlade]

So since I am odd night poisoner we have one scum left with a gun one scum left without.

That will be a proven fact once I flip.

If we get a check list going we can eliminate like a shit ton of teams, compare against the D1 wagon, find the bussers and validate or disprove my theory.

[MathBlade]

There are three Main Characters in this game. At least one of them is aligned with Town.

Then what's the point of this if mafia have PRs who are non main characters

Probably will be like always, 2 town and 1 scum.
Balance wise that makes sense too.

This is your classic circle jerk power of suggestion combo. They are suggesting that mafia have no main characters and giving it weight to make you think that option. One of Katsuki or Sakura are scum because of this. The way Sakura continues to push this makes her scum.

My flavor is the Masked Lady aka Celia, I am the

alternating

poisoner. The role PM says Masked Lady but masked lady and Celia are really the same person.

#boom shakalaka

Now let me do my thing and get my last will out before scum run up my ass.

Matt didn't submit n1 btw.

How much of the game have you read? Katsuki has been confirmed to be dead town, main character, neighbourizer and by her own admission, poisoned.

“Alternating”?

Skimmed it. Don't know who did the N2.

And yeah I'm the masked lady aka Celia of the first post. Last main character. As I said, the proper play is to lynch me but would love it if you didn't.

I'd rather you put together the list of checks so that way after I flip via lynch or NK we have this all put together.

[MathBlade]

Gunsmith Claimer	Person Checked	Night Checked	Claimed Gun/No Gun
Wisdom	Person Checked	1	Claimed Gun/No Gun
Moment	Wisdom	1	Claimed Gun
Kokichi	Person Checked	1	Claimed Gun/No Gun
Purr	Maria	1	No Gun
Nosferatu	Maria	1	No Gun
Moment	Person Checked	2	Claimed Gun/No Gun
Kokichi	Person Checked	2	Claimed Gun/No Gun
Purr	Matt	2	No Gun
Nosferatu	Maria	1	No Gun

Pedit help me fill in the blanks here please.

[MathBlade]

In any case:
Minuet's Trio: 1 scum MC, 2 Town MC.
Queen of Hearts: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.
Nightingale's Tale: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.
Through the Looking Glass: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.

By virtue of the Alices/MCs in games they are the strongest PRs, so for balance one needs to be scum and two town or either side is gonna be overpowered.

I do NOT believe for a second that Math is a town MC.

Like I said the proper play is to lynch me to confirm what I'm saying.

You're scum just repeating a tired mantra that you've been pushing that will be discarded.

This game will run on facts. And those facts will help town lynch the scum after my flip.

Now you can help contribute or be part of the problem. Part of the problem would not be a good look on you as my case will tear you to shreds. So pretend to be townie or be townie and hunt my "partners" if you believe I am scum.

[MathBlade]

So since I am odd night poisoner we have one scum left with a gun one scum left without.

That will be a proven fact once I flip.

If we get a check list going we can eliminate like a shit ton of teams, compare against the D1 wagon, find the bussers and validate or disprove my theory.

I think that’s pretty obvious, isn’t it? One scum is a poisoner and the other is a shooter.

I agree with the one scum poisoner one scum shooter theory but the scum poisoner is even night. Hence why no poison N1.

If scum was full blown poisoner then there'd have been a poison N1. No reason not to.

Furthermore if I was scum, scum would have submitted a poison on a timer.

[MathBlade]

Who is the 3rd main character? town!Katsuki, Math and who else?

Brian

Brian Skies, who was Alice, and Town Main Character - Non-Consecutive Night Doctor, has been killed in Night 2.

Quite interesting that Brian is Non consec Doc, but Math is an odd night poisoner.

Okay, so I think having 3 main towns is extremely unlikely unless there are 4 mains in this game?

Can't be four mains.

If you're a gunsmith fix my table please.

[MathBlade]

I'm a gunsmith. Kokichi Oma has a gun. I thought I'd try to catch him in a fake claim.

im also a gunsmith
Ill assume duplicate role since you dont look like youre lying

I cannot find your claims.

If you don't claim your checks in your next post or someone find them for me then I'm wrong on Kokichi and it's you.

Your claims now.

[MathBlade]

Kokichi help a brother out What's your results? I see your Wisdom N1 what's your N2?

[MathBlade]

Confirmed: I am not a main character.
Why would I lie: I have no gun.
Highly Probable: Scum left is gunsmith and poisoner with poisoner as main character.
Therefore Highly Probable: I am not scum.

The only way this happens if if Prof is town or scum poisoner.

[MathBlade]

For me to be scum i'd have to be a poisoner, so you'd have to believe I poisoned Katsuki over muffin.

And
Pedit: Why aren't you voting math then

I am

And I can see you poisoning Katsuki over muffin because PR and MC. It suits your narrative.

The only reaosn I'm not voting right now is I want to sort the investigatives first and make my case.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Math

Nice gambit, but nope. And we aren't leashing that's stupid. He was getting lynched and he knew he has to do something to stop him from being lynched.

Again I agree. I'm the proper lynch.

All I ask for is time to make my case
Make sure all investigative results are out in a clear spot.
So this way upon my flip whether we leash or lynch because if I am leashed scum kill me over night that we end up in a better state I found the game in.

But considering how hard you're tunneling me I'm guessing you don't want to answer what your N2 result is which is tantamount to a scum claim.

[MathBlade]

Secondly if I am scum the last mc cc's me for an instant guilty. Guilty with 2 scum left is more powerful than any PR town has left. However no one is CCing and I'm verifiable tomorrow.

Boom trifecta. Suck it scum.

[MathBlade]

In any case:
Minuet's Trio: 1 scum MC, 2 Town MC.
Queen of Hearts: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.
Nightingale's Tale: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.
Through the Looking Glass: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.

By virtue of the Alices/MCs in games they are the strongest PRs, so for balance one needs to be scum and two town or either side is gonna be overpowered.

I do NOT believe for a second that Math is a town MC.

Except there are 17 players in this game, so there could conceivably be 3 town mains and 1 scum main.

We need to figure out if there’s another main, if they’re green, then I would agree with you.

So, I think one of the remaining scum is a main and the other one isn’t.

OMG POST ONE
3 MAINS.

[MathBlade]

Wisdom, read above

AGAIN YOUR N2 RESULT

AND IF I WASN'T A MAIN I WOULD BE CC'D INSTANTLY.

[MathBlade]

Gunsmith Claimer	Person Checked	Night Checked	Claimed Gun/No Gun
Wisdom	Sakura	1	No Gun
Moment	Maria	1	No Gun
Kokichi	Wisdom	1	Gun
Purr	Maria	1	No Gun
Nosferatu	Spiffeh	1	Gun/No Gun
Wisdom	Nos	1	Gun
Moment	Person Checked	2	Claimed Gun/No Gun
Kokichi	Spiffeh	2	No Gun
Purr	Matt	2	No Gun
Nosferatu	Muffin	2	Gun/No Gun

This should be the accurate table. Nosferatu clarify the bolded.

ALL GUNSMITHS MUST CLAIM RESULTS IN THEIR FIRST ENTRY THAT ARE ALIVE TOMORROW. NO EXCEPTIONS. ADD TO THIS TABLE AND THEN USE IT AS A GUIDE TO PIGEONHOLE SCUM.

[MathBlade]

@Wisdom -- Why did it take me screaming at you to claim your gunsmith results?

[MathBlade]

We already confirmed all checks for tomorrow. This is scum Math

Then state them again. It can't hurt. Furthermore gunsmiths are pretty much named townies at this point.
The scum gunsmith has almost certainly claimed and the other is even night poisoner.

You do it to see the reasonability of their checks.

Part one is obtaining part two is seeing if the checks made sense with day play

{Wis/Kokichi,Sakura} looks like the team.

[MathBlade]

{Wis/Kokichi,Sakura} looks like the team.

There's 2 scum remaining lol

Slashes are or's.

[MathBlade]

I love how Math thinks there's any way out of this for him coz he has no experience with the Alice setups.

I actually have lots of friends who have played them and observed a lot. I'm not looking for an out.

At this point you are spamming.

Continually spamming incorrectly that I am scum just gets you lynched/mislynched tomorrow if you succeed in your stupid AF push today.

[MathBlade]

i hard softed my result. no reason for me to do that as scum. as scum i just claim and fish/kill potential cop/gs

I've hard claimed jailkeep N1 in a PT and went all the way to end game. It's much more likely it's just wisdom but I need to get into the context and look at wagon data on D1 and D2 to verify my theories.

Again if you're town give me time to verify my theory.

Lynch me today, lynch Sakura tomorrow then a ton of innocent town that have no guns.

Scum will be dead by POE.

[MathBlade]

if you succeed in your stupid AF push today.

So you think you wont be lynched, despite you yourself saying you should be lynched?

I think town will realize that I am town. I am holding out hope that's the case. However I understand being setup minded that I am the proper play is to lynch me.

Now if ya'll would quit spamming Math is confirmed scum based on logical flaws as evidenced by setups with all three MC's being town so I can do my work and present my case that'd be appreciated.

If you think I'm scum you get spew you can analyze.

If I'm town it only benefits you.

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lynch Sakura tomorrow then a ton of innocent town that have no guns.

Again, i have no gun, so if im scum im the poisoner, you can have literally all 5 gunsmiths check me the same night if you dont believe me.
OR
Im just town.

Nope that's a waste. There is literally no confirming anyone. You've been checked once no gun.
I'm pretty sure scum were selling the "There has to be a scum MC" bit when there is no evidence to the case when there has been all three town.

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VoteCount 1.10

Sakura Hana [1] - projectmatt
Nosferatu [2] - Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39
Wisdom [2] - Dunnstral x2
zMuffinMan [1] - Kokichi Oma

Myloninja13 [9] - Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, Purrcocet, Katsuki, Wisdom, zMuffinMan [LYNCH]

projectmatt [1] - TehBrawlGuy

Not Voting [2]

- Myloninja13, MariaR

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

Mastina rule of thumb. Scum bus.
So at least one of Sakura, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, Katsuki, Wisdom, and Muffin are scum. Take out Brian confirmed town.

Spiffeh is town simply for the fact mylo bothered to make an effort.
viewtopic.php?p=10336908#p10336908 votes here.
Brian Skies is confirmed town by Sakura's own admission pressured the wagon. Sakura here doesn't even mention that she just wants pressure. She then switches to Katsuki and then just votes mylo no reasons.

viewtopic.php?p=10343097#p10343097 That post is absolutely true spew.
Myloninja13 [7] - Wisdom, Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, MariaR
Simple cross reference muffin is spewed town. MariaR is also LIKELY but not spewed town.

One scum is in Wisdom, Sakura, Moment, Nos, Spiffeh guaranteed.

This means based on the gunsmith claims, Purrocet is spewed town.

[MathBlade]

lynch Sakura tomorrow then a ton of innocent town that have no guns.

Again, i have no gun, so if im scum im the poisoner, you can have literally all 5 gunsmiths check me the same night if you dont believe me.
OR
Im just town.

Math, I don’t see why you’re so sure Sakura is scum. Her theory on the mains is solid. Muffin was the one who thought your character was defacto scum. He just thought it was Maria and not you.

Because she's been pushing an improper theory, not pushing any reads for any content based reasons, not trying to argue meta or try to figure out why I'm doing what I'm doing.

Tell me, do you have a gun?

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VoteCount 2.14

Wisdom [1] - Kokichi Oma

TehBrawlGuy [9] - zMuffinMan, Brian Skies, Purrcocet, Katsuki, Sakura Hana, Spiffeh, Nosferatu, Prof Fridays, TehBrawlGuy [LYNCH]

zMuffinMan [3] - MariaR, projectmatt, Nancy Drew 39
Prof Fridays [4] - Dunnstral x2, Moment, Wisdom

Not Voting [0]

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With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-08-04 15:00:00)

N2 cross wagon simple cross reference:

Myloninja13 [9] - Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, Purrcocet, Katsuki, Wisdom, zMuffinMan [LYNCH]

Overlap is Muffin,Brian, Purr, Sakura, Spiffeh, Katsuki, Nos

Brian is dead, Purr is spewed, Muffin was spewed. Spiffeh spewed.

Means the only scum on the wagon possible is Sakura or Nos.

However due to the fact that TBG had to hammer himself the scum is almost positively Sakura.

[MathBlade]

But Purr, 3 town mains would screw up the balance, because the mains have the most power. What I don’t understand is my role PM doesn’t specify that I’m a minor character, so I’m assuming that only mains do? I wish I had asked Ank that before she replaced out.

Nancy, I failed math class so idk how to answer that one bro


We can
(and should i think at this point)
flip Math(blade)

For the sake of the gamestate
I think its real interesting how Sakura has Math locked scum

I know Im awful but I have maths play as hardtown

VOTE: MathBlade

I understand why you're doing this. As I have said I HAVE to be lynched.

Can we just make sure everyone understands my case and I propose a lynch plan before it happens?

[MathBlade]

lynch Sakura tomorrow then a ton of innocent town that have no guns.

Again, i have no gun, so if im scum im the poisoner, you can have literally all 5 gunsmiths check me the same night if you dont believe me.
OR
Im just town.

Math, I don’t see why you’re so sure Sakura is scum. Her theory on the mains is solid. Muffin was the one who thought your character was defacto scum. He just thought it was Maria and not you.

Because she's been pushing an improper theory, not pushing any reads for any content based reasons, not trying to argue meta or try to figure out why I'm doing what I'm doing.

Tell me, do you have a gun?

No, I’ve already claimed that and I’m fine with being double and triple chrcked if necessary, to prove it. Did you read your predecessor’s 180 on her?

I don't read my predecessor's ISO in detail as town. It puts too much weight on my reads when as a replacement I'm much more valuable coming in at point and then going backwards.

[MathBlade]

When this greens can we lynch Friday lol

@Math i dont really think anyone will quickhammer you and we know your town
I think you have all the time in the world

Im only doing this brcause ... idk why the fuck Im doing this lol

NO. FRIDAY CANNOT BE LYNCHED.

[MathBlade]

I think Math went and checked that muffin knew his flavor would be MC, and decided to be honest about being MC and gambit that way.

And this is why I'd never do it as scum.

Do you know my scum winrate?
Hint it's greater than 75% on all sites.
I've even won as literal setup confirmed scum.
I know EXACTLY how to win as setup confirmed scum so you arguing that I'm setup confirmed scum incorrectly proves I'm town.

Seriously. That's just horrible.

[MathBlade]

The Game Breaking Strategy

The scum poisoner is absolutely even night. With my lynch today, you're going to have to lynch the poisoner tomorrow. Anyone claimed with a gun IS OFF LIMITS tomorrow. I don't fucking care if the mod tells you it's a guilty. You say the guilty and lynch in the no gun claimants.

Now once the poisoner flips, and I'm 95% sure it's Sakura, then the rest of the no gun claimants become very likely town.
Why does this work? Why do we assume there is one scum in the gunsmiths and one scum outside?
Because with an all three town MC scum would have to have a way to find out the PRs. A gunsmith provides the fake/real claim for them and gives them cover while finding two but not three of the PRs.
If you disagree with me on Sakura, you absolutely lynch in the no guns for the confirmed towns it provides and for the removed kill every other night. Scum are then forced to kill the non gun claimants and hunt within the guns. If and only if a no gun claimant reaches lylo do you consider it.

Spewed Town

AKA do not lynch unless something has gone horribly wrong

Spiffeh, Muffin, Purr, MariaR,Nos, Prof Fridays

Spoiler: why

Spiffeh because mylo talked about them. They couldn't fake analysis on everyone so when scum do that it's almost certainly on town rather than highlight a buddy. (There are a few exceptions to this but more often than not when they talk about one player only it's town especially with a day one lurker)

Muffin is spewed town because of VCA. MariaR is likely town (but not quite confirmed). Purr is spewed town based on VCA + gunsmith claims.

Based on the wagons day one and two for the above people for VCA.

Building upon that we have

viewtopic.php?p=10380481#p10380481
MariaR brought up to L-1.

Due to the sheer speed and rapidness of the wagon combined with the likely spew before makes MariaR spewed town.
The only people not spewed or confirmed are {Sakura,Moment,Prof Fridays, Nos, Wisdom}

This group of four again has to have at least scum in it. Let's see if we can find some spew.
Now let's compare and see who they were on in the previous wagon link
Moment/Wisdom -- Prof Fridays
Nos -- TBG
Sakura -- TBG
Prof Fridays -- TBG

The only possible pairings if both scum are on is
Sakura&Moment
Sakura&Nos
Sakura&Wisdom
OR
Prof&Moment
Prof&Nos
Prof&Wisdom

viewtopic.php?p=10368680#p10368680 Nos is spewed town from this post. Because the only scum motivation he would have to pick TBG over MariaR is to save a buddy. Otherwise Nos doesn't give two shits and lets the wagons stay where they are.
Therefore Sakura is the confirmed scum from the other wagon.

This therefore eliminates Professor Fridays. If Sakura flips green by weird fluke of nature, THEN and only then can you consider lynching Prof Fridays.

Then there's 3614 from Sakura which proclaims the slot as poisoner. In that case why did you ever unvote hmmm? Someone else could have easily. The simple answer is she believed the VT claim from MariaR.

[MathBlade]

Combine the above with the fact that Wisdom wanted me to eliminate Prof Fridays and nay provided a reason (or that he sucks at cases)

Makes him scum.

[MathBlade]

Math i unvoted coz i was asked to.

And people have asked you to unvote me that I'm town and you haven't.

You said MariaR was the poisoner. Yet you unvoted.

You believe I'm the scum poisoner yet you haven't unvoted.

Same prompt different response.

You're not reading you're power role hunting.

[MathBlade]

just ignore ratios and scumhunt, nancy
math doesnt claim this as scum

I don’t recall him claiming this in Labrynth but then he was obvtown to everyone but scum!Taly/you, Wheme in that game.

Thanks for alt outing. *sigh*

I'm Commander Shepard. I intentionally trolled to try to not be NK'd because I could just go confirming myself as town and we'd win.

Like I literally trolled and crumbed and said I was spiderman.

[MathBlade]

Im just gonna go back to active lurking like I did D1 and D2 if this is how im gonna be treated when I actually try to solve the game.

The only person here that has done a modicrum of trying to make me see a possible reality based on previous mod meta that Math may be town MC is prof.

SO yeah never lynch prof. he's also actually trying to solve the game.

And this is the nail on the head that demonstrates Wisdom scum.

They are playing dual fiddle to each other yet never suspecting.
Their reads are opposite so neither way actually progresses.

Wisdom tries to use the "I claimed first" defense when he didn't Kokichi did through softing and pushing.

I have D&D tonight and I'm full well expecting that I'm hammered so remember my last few posts.

Peace out everyone! Kick ass!

VOTE: Sakura

[MathBlade]

Whoops one last thing: Force Sakura to give non mechanical reasons for her reads. She's not given any all game. Force her to talk. She's active lurking and pushing spec not people.

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SAKURA AND WISDOM ARE THE SCUM.

LYNCH SAKURA TOMORROW. SEE LINKS FOR WHY.

I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A SHIT TON OF FUN!

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SAKURA AND WISDOM ARE THE SCUM.

LYNCH SAKURA TOMORROW. SEE LINKS FOR WHY.

I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A SHIT TON OF FUN!

[MathBlade]

Pretty sure Math is an alternating poisoner/something else. And the something else would be scummy if known so that's why he only said poisoner.

Chica pretty sure Nos hammered me.

I don't keep up a ruse if I'm hammered scum.

You are WRONG. YOU ARE SCUM.

[MathBlade]

Yelling it more is not going to magically make me scum Math.

No your role PM from FakeGod did.
I don’t have to do anything.

I am flipping town so who is scum then hmmm? Provide reasons to the class

You and Wisdom

[MathBlade]

it's prof and muffin, math

Then explain the narrative from d1/d2

Because it spews muffin town. If you’re town which I doubt you’re gonna need to bring it because everything points to you guys

[MathBlade]

VOTE: maria
whatever its prolly another minuet

i thought it was so over at that point

that modkill helped us so much

It really did. I am just sad no one sheeped my Wis read :/

[MathBlade]

Gg scum it was earned.

Be afraid though Wisdom I might have a tell on you

[MathBlade]

When Math subbed in I was so fucking scared because they've been wrong on town me once. So I assumed they'd nail me
Pedit: It'd be the first time you expressed it
Pedit2: BRIAN YOU WERE SUCH A CHALLENGE I WAS GRINDING MY GOD DAM TEETH

Thank you <3

At least I am improving! Yay for half wins

I shoulda revisited you but that wagon XD

[MathBlade]

Yeah, honestly I should've told you guys straight out to bus me, or at least not push elsewhere. I was probably going down regardless day 1 lol

Nah it just means you need more practice.

My first game I was scum in I got caught in one post. Just keep trying. You’ll get better.

[MathBlade]

yeah but id never do that as town

even if i for some reason wanted to see reactions to conpeting wagons id never just say it outright

this was just... heres some shitty excuse for trying to give a wagon other than mylo a chance

Yeah agreed.

This and <redacted> made you pretty clear <3 I look forward to the challenge of being able to push you.

I would have poisoned you or Sakura had I lived.

[MathBlade]

singersigner caught me and i deadass replaced out immediately

Nah I tried defending myself and well XD it was hilarious.

It didn’t help it was one of the best scumhunters that caught me.

[MathBlade]

I learned of what NOT to do as scum from my mistakes.

[MathBlade]

I would have poisoned you or Sakura had I lived.

Had you not scumread me i'd have

probably

let you live.
From my PoV no one on the game was scumreading me aside from you, you get nightkilled while poisoning me, and congratulations you just helped scum NK someone they were never mislynching.

Yeah and had you not pushed something wrong so hard despite being proven otherwise by multiple people I probably wouldn’t have. It was just so out of character. And I probably would have done Wisdom. I hero vig a lot and haven’t missed with a vig shot on F2F or forum I don’t believe. Titus meet 2/2

[MathBlade]

I just rarely ever get a vig XD

[MathBlade]

you would have done who we told you to because you would be leashed
And that certainly wouldn't be me

Nah...I don’t believe in being leashed as vig. Lol I am on record that it’s my opinion you never leash a vig. I would agree then just not do it then be lynched the next day

[MathBlade]

Especially not by a scumread

[MathBlade]

The only time you could say I was leashed with a gun was Shadowrun and in that one I won as scum Leashing a vig is almost never effective imho.

[MathBlade]

leashing anything is always a bad idea

Almost anything there are a few exceptions.

Leashing generally leads to popularity contests versus good actions.

[MathBlade]

you probably don't like being leashed because you believe in hero vig shots

When I miss one I will quit believing in it.

In seriousness:

But I generally dislike leashing as a concept. As scum I know how to make towns make the leash do what I want and as town it denies way too much read wise.

There are a few times where that works but they are soooo rare

[MathBlade]

Like for instance Math's lockscum due to VCA read on me.

Except I woulda shot Wisdom

You I had faith I could lynch

[MathBlade]

the more people you involve in a decision the shittier the decision will be so i dont see why leashing a vig is a good idea in most circumstances unless the vig is literally throwing

+1

And if the vig is throwing a leash won’t stop it

[MathBlade]

I'm amused town poisoner never got any poisons off lol

Not for lack of trying.

I generally am almost never lynched. :/ I kinda went too far on the honesty there.

[MathBlade]

Granted tho, I still thought you were the scum poisoner. Mainly coz 3rd MC. I also did have several times where i gave non mechanical reads yet you said I wasnt, a lot of your arguments against me were false. Kinda hard to believe you were town there.

I am tipsy probably not the best time to go into this.

And right I wouldn’t poison you because if you lived better to lynch you tomorrow.