Magic: The Gathering,GO TEAM MS!

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Well, i played embargo in my grimgrin commander deck. Was stronk

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And it only affects nonlands. Lands still untap so players can cast stuff

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Coldsnap was hilarious

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TINFINS

lands

use dazes as shitty replacement for fow

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considering tinfins land is blue duals, i'd say they are both equal in usablity.

but fair point on shocklands instead of dazes. follow his advice. get forces

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switch Grave titan to tidespout or grisel, yeah. grave titan actually doesnt do that much in legacy.

Iona is basically superior to empreyal vs basically everything. I actually run Iona maindeck as my primary DR target in dredge, and she wrecks most of the decks she lands aganist. I'd say -1 grave, -1 empryal, +1 grisel, +1 tidespout

but its your deck, so whatever youre most comfortable with

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iona shuts down burn as well

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If there's more packs as a prize

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The two times I've done without redraft all first place got was whatever the fnm promo was at the time.

if this is true, yea, just pick money and walk. no point in paying to play in tournies without prizes.


good stores usually give between 3 to 8 packs to first place finishers

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.. 18$? Never go again

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uh
explain the scry one

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I keep hoping they'll institute Partial Paris as the mulligan rule. Would make for more playable hands, I think.

as a unrepentant combo player, i'd love this.

as a decent magic player, no.

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so optimal play is to mull to 6 if your hand is borderline because of the scry?

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for a "keep" hand, yeah, but for hands that could go either way, it is now better to mull because you get 6.5 cards?

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uhm ok

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so thats uh, a suspend hoser?

took me a couple rereads to understand

also PROCESSOR AS A CREATURE TYPE

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Legacy is 7 to 8 archetypes, usually, but the pool of viable decks that could win is a good 30 decks or more

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This deck caught my eye

How good is it

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/ar ... 2015-07-17

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What i enjoy is taking existing strategies and putting in personal touches to push it over the top.

Both my most successful torunament performances is attributed to exactly that.

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More like

Holy shit that deck has all those awesome cards in it, and the way that dude played it looks really fun, i'll get a deck like that and try it out

Followed by

Wow im having a blast playing this deck, what happens if i switch that card with that card

Followed by holy shit im winning a gp

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Thing is, you cant have one without the other.

I played my deck of choice in legacy for near to 2 years before i finally understood all the interactions that the deck had with itself. It was only at that time i could make a unique change. Every time before that point that i tried to change, the deck fell apart and crashed horrifically.

Netdecking exactly is pretty close to a requirement, otherwise you wouldnt understand why the deck is the way it is. Even a single card can change win percentages massively.

Keep in mind im mostly speaking from the standpoint of a legacy player, where decks has been worked on for many years by hundreds of people.

In standard, eh, things change. Brews can be more sucessful there, but still, i dont think its a bad thing to pick up a known thing and pilot it.

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Define scrub in that context please.

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Scrub = shitty player?



Eh, netdecking is a thing, for a reason. Its just the fact that there exists prizes. For 100% casual games with nothing on the line, netdecking shouldnt exist, outside of very interesting decks that cannot be built any other way (of which theres very few)

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./shrug

Gonna bow out of the discussion- if we're talking about sanctioned formats, that isnt an outlet for creativity period. Only real place for 100% creativity is at the kitchen table and assorted casual formats. Theres basically nothing more to say to that than that.

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I enjoy playing 2hg a hell of a lot, but i usually bring someone who doesnt know how to play, and puppet his/her plays, so its techinally me playing with two decks simulateonusly.

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I'm considering moving to playing on MTGO exclusively, due to scheduling. worth it to play standard there or nay?

and for those who know, what's the entry price point for standard on mtgo?

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GB is a scary deck with a few upgrades

Remade blue green in a snakes deck, which is fun

Watched bw, and its really good straight out of the box

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For meren, i added value creatures and sac outlets. also removed most of reanimating cards- she does it all just fine on her own. also a bit of ramp.

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drafted 2 nettle drone, 2 complete disregard, 2 grip of void, and a bunch of low curve red/black stuff, went 2-1

no bombs tho.

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if someone wants i can post the decklist

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Handicap yourself by dropping the deck's strength. I find that building decks around themes helps a lot with this. In game you can be as spikey as you want, but if the deck is intentionally depowered, the game becomes much more challenging for you.

Alternatively, start (quietly) figuring out the play errors your buddy is making, then identifying the major ones, and try to uh,, politely and nicely point out the better plays availble.

"Whew i thought you'd do this instead" is one way, i think

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Mill, felidar soverign, labratory maniac, posion, test of endurance, , omni gifting, opponent forgetting to pay for pact, opponent disqualification, opponent no-show, opponent conceding, darksteel reactor, mortal combat (black card that counts graceyard creatures), gifted transcendednce.. Thats all i can remember off the top of my mind

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Worried about a tron ban- im playing a uw tron list i find real fun

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i agree with the above post.

Twin was a pretty damn fair deck to play against. sure, it can just win if you have your pants down, but turn 1-2 will make it obvious its a twin deck, just play smart and its winnable. not to mention theres oodles of relevant sideboard cards aganist it

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I think hexproof is a worse development mistake that they keep propagating.

i absolutely hate bogles as a deck.

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I'd go level 0 on both of them. I dont bluff, i dont believe opponent bluffs as a rule. i would rather to lose straight up than next level myself out of the game.

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sideboarding, tho. defintely respond to what the opponent may have n their sideboards.

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Spellweaver helix in play, sorcery imprinted on panoptic mirror, ischeon secpter in play, karn animating both the secpter and the mirror, and a mirrorweave making all creatures your creature a ischron secoter.

Then you can use the mirror-which-is-a-scepter-now to cast a sorcery, which gets spellweaved.

Edit: actually, any card that can imprint a sorcery, and that isnt chrome mox can do this instead of panoptic mirror

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Evasion is also nice occasionally.

Pay attention to your 4 mana slot. very often you end up with way too much 4 mana cards in this format.

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Bread is the memonic I use

Bomb, removal, evasion, advantage, dregs

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great investment

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*raises hand*

DC, going with my own team.

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Welp. Modern is broken.

Eye of Ugin is not surviving to another Modern PT. The question is how long it takes.

Based on what tournament?

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Jesus.

Tron in danger of banning? Or its just the eldrazi lands?

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If we go off general archetypes, then eldrazi is defintely a stompy deck- sol lands, desire of turn one chalice, 3 mana brutal creatures

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All my friends are playing standard right now but I never was feeling it until you showed me Temur Devoid Assault Formation.

edit: Too bad this deck will be dated soon :C

I want to play this deck so bad

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im pleased

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I'm right on the line for buying into eldrazi for modern, and possibly conversion to legacy... should i?

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Working on a R/W list for postrotation, anyone interested?

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^^ Im so excited- its finally a new card for dredge.

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price for beacon?

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i'll take it.

send me how to pay in PM

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>.>

Diamond is making me feel like a bad person for liking shiny things

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i have no pauper scene in my area or i would

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Can't stand mtgo. Clunky interface and so impersonal

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nice!

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Well, I do, but i play dredge/belcher only, so i have the playset of LEDs required for degenerate combo. If i didnt, and was looking to buy in to legacy now, i'd honestly go to modern instead. price spikes has been stupid as hell.

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Modern is pretty wide in terms of viability. Nahiri control decks is pretty strong, along with various aggro decks and such.

http://mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO

Check the above site out to get a idea of the meta game breakdown

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hexproof boooo

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./in

Cockatrice?

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as long as it has all the cards i could try xmage i guess

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tried it, couldnt make it work, would much prefer cockatrice

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Cockatrice allows specs, yes

Main reason I'm rooting for cockatrice is because it's so hassle-free to install/make decks in

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That said, I've went octgn before and didn't have any problems

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OHHH THATS BEAUTIFUL

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I should post my fully blinged out edh deck here sometime

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i love old foils a lot

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What the fuck are those bans wow. DEFINTELY never buying into standard

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My thing is that for every recent standard there has been bans. that's a high risk prospect to buying into the best deck.

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So i decided i want to sell off my legacy stuff.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

PM me if youre interested in anything, if you want something, I'd like you to cover shipping.

everything is priced way below TCGPlayer.com's values.

(I do know this is likely a longshot, but figured i might offer it up)

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nice!

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Ok arena is suprisingly fun. Played for 6 hours on it, unintentionally.

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hella undercosted. reminds me of the days of burning-tree shaman and Rumbling Slum