Open 735: Watchmen Wanted - Game Over!


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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:27 am

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Is everyone here or are we still waiting for catchups/replacements?
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:09 am

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Votecount 1.09

volxen (5)
- Reundo , Irrelephant11 , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Ausuka
2 718281828459 (2)
- Kop , volxen
Dunnstral (1)
- northsidegal
Sesq (1)
- Dunnstral

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga , 2 718281828459

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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  • - If anyone else would like to try finding a replacement for GameNBurger's slot, I'd really appreciate it.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:33 am

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In post 166, Toranaga wrote:volxen/sesq/271 all fine lynches
In post 192, Toranaga wrote:I could case them all if I had the motivation to do so
You gonna add your case on Volxen while there is a wagon on him?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:00 am

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I think I have too much going on for me to handle, so I will be
replacing out
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Retired Account
. I have no replacement.

After 2 years (almost exactly!) of inactivity I am giving MafiaScum a second chance...

Nah. I'm gone. Again.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:38 am

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So Apparently, having reads and trying to help gamesolve is scummier than, say, doing absolutely nothing and actively lurking while being blatantly apathetic about it. Let’s look at 2.718’s, Toranaga’s and Sesq’s recent posts:

2.718:


in , he declares that
nothing
is worth his attention. I mean, what exactly was the purpose of this post? To prod dodge? Or is it more along the lines of “hey I probably could gamesolve, but it’s just not worth my time”? Whatever the case, it certainly didn’t contribute anything. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

And then in , he asks “everyone else” to get some wagons going because he finds the game to be getting “boring”. So rather than doing something productive himself, he is simply expecting
everyone else
to produce content. Again, blatant active lurking and apathy.

In , instead of helping to gamesolve he gives excuses for why he
isn’t
helping to gamesolve. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

Toranaga:


In , he literally admits to not having any interest in this game and blames it on everyone else. Again, a case of someone expecting everyone else to make the game interesting, rather than producing meaningful content themselves. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

In he namedrops me, Sesq, and 2.718 as his scumreads, only to say that he could case all of us,
if only
he had the motivation to do so. He’s carrying himself with this “I don’t give a shit about this game, but if I did I could easily gamesolve the whole thing” attitude. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

and are just fluffposts.

In , he once again reinforces his lack of motivation in this game. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

Sesq:


He votes for me in , with no explanation other than “Yeah, I can see that”. Then in , he declares that he might as well vote for me because, hey, he didn’t have any of his own scumreads anyways. What is he trying to say here, that he doesn’t think for himself and try to gamesolve, but rather just goes with the flow? Blatant active lurking and apathy.

We’ve got multiple people who are engaged in blatant active lurking and complete apathy towards this game, and yet I’m the first one to even bring it up in this post. Why is that?
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:51 am

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I definitely don't feel like you're the first to bring it up????? Half the conversation has been "why is this so quiet"

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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:52 am

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@Volxen in your previous readslist why did you include more nullreads than scum or town reads?
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:46 am

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In post 253, 2 718281828459 wrote:I think I have too much going on for me to handle, so I will be
replacing out
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Noted.

Searching for 2 718281828459's replacement.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:04 am

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I don't even know if I want to ask for a deadline extension with 2 replacements waiting to be introduced to the game.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:18 am

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We've got just over 3 days to gain a lynch. Right now, I'm still happy to have my vote where it is, even though the slot is being replaced.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:25 am

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Would you consider a toranaga vote as well
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:52 am

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In post 260, Irrelephant11 wrote:Would you consider a toranaga vote as well
What's your case on Torangaga?
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:58 am

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I mean you empty sheeped me onto 2.718 so why not onto Toranaga as well?
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:18 am

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In post 262, Irrelephant11 wrote:I mean you empty sheeped me onto 2.718 so why not onto Toranaga as well?
I already stated that I was willing to vote for numbers before you placed your vote, so yes you were the first to vote there, but theoretically I could ask you a similar question.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:26 am

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In post 156, Kop wrote:I'd vote for numbers, because he is a one that stood out to me, from the quick glance,
I mean if you think I was sheeping your "reasoning" here or your interest in voting him you're wrong. I clearly started the wagon on him because of his refusal to be productive, and you almost immediately followed with a vote without comment.

Whatever that's a fruitless argument and I'll concede that your vote had some "progression" before I voted the slot. I townread you anyway so I'll drop it

I am interested in voting Toranaga because I think he's playing similarly to 2.718, but he's doing the scummy things
second
. I guess Tor has slightly better pushing, but I think a wagon on a slot getting replaced is a bad choice
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:28 am

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whatever if keyser/kop/ausuka/nsg mostly come to a consensus I'll vote there. I'm V/LA-ish from now till Monday
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:30 am

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@volxen

Are you saying that those three players are scummy for contributing to the apathy/lurking that festers in this game? Or are you just pissed off for being s/read; being our first wagon?
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:35 am

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Reundo is probably town too
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:08 am

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The worst replaces GameNBurger, effective immediately.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:09 am

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quack quack
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:13 am

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woah that ms paint chikorita dude is a lot smarter than me
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:14 am

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@Keyser did you actually understand what my predecessor was saying on page 1?
also, are you town?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:15 am

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nsg<3 what are your reads?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:19 am

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In post 46, Reundo wrote:
In post 25, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 16, Sesq wrote:
In post 13, Keyser Söze wrote:Anyone played this setup before?

I.e what’s the best way to play it... does hypoclaiming help town or scum?

And while we’re all saying hello, what are your opinions on how to deal with lurkers.
please Please townread me
This was a page one question intended to be answered before we enter serious/non-RVS gameplay.

You shouldn’t see it as an attempt to look ‘townie’: it’s as non-alignment indicative as say a player asking if there is scum day chat - why are you being lazy/shortsighted?
What? Asking if there's scum day chat would be an entirely useless question since you can just skim through the role PMs and find the answer yourself. That would actually lean more scum imo since it would seem like a pretty shitty attempt at a dumb-tell. I don't think it would be too unreasonable for someone to town-read you for trying to strike up conversation, or to think it's just a facade by that same reasoning.
In post 49, Keyser Söze wrote:That’s your first post...?

VOTE: Reundo

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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:27 am

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is E scum with Reundo?
would that be too easy?
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